jeb bush: i have no idea. mark: what will it take for jeb bush to overcoming new hampshire history of being unkind to people whose last name is bush? john: well, mark, that history is not pretty. george herbert walker bush lost. we have it up on the wall. lost in 1980, won in 1988, won in 1992 but damaged him in a way because pat buchanan did so well. george w. bush lost to john mccain in 2000. new hampshire is not a great state for the bushes. what jeb bush has to do to overcome the history is to live up to what he set a couple of times about himself -- proved to new hampshire that he is his own man. mark: both president bushes went hard in iowa, and that hurt them in new hampshire. new hampshire voters tend to not just validate what iowa voters to. if you look culturally, you and i disagree about this -- i still think bush can be a strong iowa candidate -- he will be a strong candidate for this state. scott walker is here, doing a public isn't tomorrow. unless chris christie picks up the establishment vote h

jeb bush: this is a blast. give me five minutes with anybody and show that i'm not off the reservation and. maybe a combination of both. i'm not surprised where people don't understand where i'm coming from. the common core, there is a lot of people -- >> breaking it down. jeb bush: take the federal government's role. >> [indiscern i believe conversation] -- [indiscernible conversation] [indiscernible conversation] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> first legislative day of the week for the house and back at 6:30 eastern including a vote that would exclude hours worked by volunteers, firefighters and emergency medical personnel, from the health care law. we will have those votes at 6:30. in the meantime, a look at the health care law and the enrollment numbers and projection of health care costs from today's washington journal. guest: they have over the tax period to be able to sign up for insurance and not get a penalty next year.

first, let's look at how they felt about republican jeb bush. what you know about jeb bush?> i cannot tell you much specifically. it was not one i spent much time looking at. i felt like a lot of the things the facts i looked up about him were not compatible with me. mark: could you imagine voting for a republican? >> i want hillary to win, but i could live with jeb bush. he is pretty moderate. >> the stance on immigration things like that -- >> i think his support of the common core may be an issue for him. >> on immigration, he is big on schools, education. those are big issues for us boys and girls, aren't they? that is part of who we are. >> being the son father brother of the latest president, is going to leave a mark on at least percentages of people. he may be able to pick up the vote. i think he will be losing at least a percentage of the vote just having that name. >> i would listen to him. i would. i would listen to him. i do not know if i would vote for him, but i would listen. he could change me. >> not any chance at all really. mark: democrats of four jeb bush.

a confidante of jeb bush. rprised that it's gotten this direct this early between walker and bush, the two front-runners, up in new hampshire. >> i think it's fun. i think it is going to -- frankly, it's the most fun and entertaining thing we have seen going. if i were a democrat, i would being into the brown paper bag at the thought there is going the be no primary. this primary process sharpens political skills, tests skills. it makes good candidates. gets rid of bad candidates. so i think it's going to get tough. it's about to get tougher. >> the only thing in my brown paper bag is popcorn. i want to watch this thing. i can tell you that right now. it's classic. jeb is tough. i'm enjoying every minute of this. every minute of it. it will be good. the republican party has to go through this. we certainly went through it in 2008. the most interesting thing is jeb bush has got to do something about his polling numbers. they're universally bad across the board. >> an nbc/"wall street journal" poll showed the cei

what you have happening here jeb bush is in that position that romney was before him and mccain was before him and george w. bush was before him. that is, he is likely guy he's going to be everybody's second choice. first that have to flirt with all the others. they have their scott walker flirtation, their marco rubio flirtation all the others down the line when they realize probably don't have choice going to be jeb bush again. >> by the way take this chance. proved that you don't have to be in the step at very long or necessarily wait until you spend 40 years in the trenches any more. in fact sometimes better off not doing that because of a cleaner record, less of baggage to run. why wouldn't you want to get out there mix it up. >> very credibly see marco rubio, see him as potential vice president shall nominee on republican ticket. at his age he can afford to run for vice president run for president down the road because he's a young man, he's hispanic and these are important assets in republican party. >> schieffer: do you all think at the end of the day it's going to be bush and hill

bush right now more popular with all voters than jeb bush. george w. ho left office in 2008 with an approval rating of 30%, is more popular right now, according to our poll, than jeb bush. very tough for jeb bush to look at republicans and say, hey, i'm the most electable when he's running below his brother, george w., in that question. how about this, look back to a 1999 -- what i mean, when george w. bush was running for president himself, at this same point of the 2000 cycle, this same question in this same poll, he came in at 55 positive, 14 negative. his brother today, 23% positive. when george w. bush was running and telling republicans to get on board with me because i can win, these are the numbers they were looking at. different story. there's more we can show you here. this is jeb -- excuse me, jeb against hillary clinton on the question of which one of these would be a return to the past or which one has new ideas? 60% saying jeb bush would represent a return to the past, old policy, past policies as opposed to new ideas. hillary clinton, 51%

jeb bush: we do. >>our foreign policies one of retrenchment disengagement, one of the things america's presence and powers in the world is not a force for good. i love reading books about history particularly. if you take a pause at our own history, we have been a force for good consistently. she idea that we are not is quite dangerous. the two things that matter in foreign policy is that our friends know that we have their back. and that our enemies fear us a little bit -- not a lot but just enough to know that the consequence, if they behave in a way that is dangerous for the region or the world that will be consequences. our consistent friends don't believe america is reliable. this is a test i am do this all the time. you're going to go first. [laughter] name a country where the american relationship is better today than when barack obama came into office. >> can't do it. >> cuba. jeb bush: congratulations. i don't know about north korea. mirror mark perhaps. but not canada, absolutely not. not la

mark: who considers themselves someone who would vote for jeb bush? i don't think the bushes are bad people. if they were the only candidate i guess i would vote for them. mark: that's a ringing endorsement. >> if he had come -- become a candidate before, yes. but after his father and brother, he won't have a chance. mark: anybody think he has a good chance? anybody think he is the front runner? probably not. who knows who scott walker is? >> he's done a really great job in turning around the economy in wisconsin. loosening up regulations, limiting the power that unions may have in that state. >> what he has done with regard to business is reduced taxes and other things, and everybody says it will not work. the state has done very well. business has improved. revenue has come in. i think the budget has flipped from a negative to a positive. that's where i stand from a business standpoint. mark: he did not graduate college, does that concern you? >> no, because a lot of idiots came out of college. mark: rand paul? >> i almost didn't want to admit it in

what jeb bush has to do to overcome the history is to live up to what he set a couple of times about himself -- proved to new hampshire that he is his own man. >> both president bushes went hard in iowa, and that hurt them in new hampshire. new hampshire voters tend to not just validate what iowa voters to. if you look culturally, you and i disagree about this -- i still think bush can be a strong iowa candidate -- he will be a strong candidate for this state. scott walker is here, doing a public isn't tomorrow. unless chris christie picks up the establishment vote here right now is going to be more towards jeb bush than anyone else. he's got that family history against him, but he's a good fit or this state. voters care about policy, and the guy wows on policy. >> i don't disagree with any of that. again back on our last college poll we did in february, jeb bush was in the lead, and also some very good numbers among republicans. one thing that really is a warning sign -- we asked about some deal killers -- 41% of her likely primary voters said his immigration stance is a potential de

he was asked about how he would beat jeb bush. he said, jeb bush is the front-runner.is his sale to people to give him money. he's the front-runner but i'm the slow and steady guy who will come up behind just like when i ran track when i was younger. >> diplomatic, lett ejeb catch e harpoons. >> i've been following israel. benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister, who got so much notice here is close to losing. doesn't mean his party will lose but higgs party is in grave danger in the election which is coming up on tuesday. now israel's political system is so complicated that even if his party ends up not being the leading party, there are scenarios where he could be the governing coalition. we don't know that he's going away. it's interesting to note that isaac herzog wants to change israel's approach to the world, has been talking about trying to end israel's isolation in the world which would suggest changing a lot of policies that have infuriated this white house or frustrated this white house in the last several years. there could be a change if the election results

this was about a new jeb bush trying to say he's thinking about running for president. >> anybody othern walker and bush make a positive impression on this crowd? >> reporter: well, i was surprised to hear people say that they actually thought that chris christie had some good answers and surprisingly even some positive response for george pataki. i will tell you that scott walker had a lot of warm reception at the ag summit. >> absolutely, kelly o'donnell, nice work, thanks very much. >>> up next, 50 years since selma. much of course has changed but there is a lot that hasn't. the great congressman john lewis living american hero, joins us next. just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. no sudden movements. google search: bodega beach house. (car starting) great. this is the last thing i need. seriously? the last thing you need is some guy giving you a new catalytic converter when all you got is a loose gas cap. what? it is that simple sometimes. thanks. now let's take this puppy over to midas and get you some of the good 'ol midas touch. hey you know what? i'll drive! and i have

lindsey: the country will evaluate jeb bush on being jeb bush.ot like dynasties, but we like individuals. if there is anything consistent about america, she will give you a chance to make the case as to who you are and let you fail and come back. like bill clinton. the idea of jeb bush being kind of shouted -- shadowed by his brother, here is what i think about america. they are going to give you a chance to make the case about who you are. when you are talking about somebody based on your name, i do not think you quite understand who we are as a party or country. he is going to have to make the case and prove to people he is his own guy. here is the question for scott and george -- what we have to offer. most elections are about the polls. when you think about the last 40 years, reagan's antidote -- antidote to carter clinton to bush, what is the antidote to obama? a technical savvy guy? maybe so, maybe not. mark: could be. lindsey: how about a guy who can do but some things? a guy who has a record of being willing to tell his party something th

ben carson at 11 and jeb bush at 8. en came jeb came in with a lot fwan and some to lose. >> i saw jeb bush speak earlier last month, state policy luncheon addresses. he was far more comfortable at a hostile address at cpac. i thought he had a pretty confident performance. he had to sustain and deliver. he knew that all eyes were going to be on him. i think he passed the test. how much does it matter in the long run? not a lot. you know, john had a pretty good point. the best news coming out of this for jeb, he didn't see anything that's going to hurt him long run in either the primary or the general, but it was shrewd on the part of his people to bus in supporters because i think the sound of the boos around him if he had not brought in his people would have been a bigger story coming out of this. you heard and i hope you just played, there were a lot of cheers there. those weren't organic cheers, it was cheer from his supporters. >> one of the questions, could he go into an event like that? how was he going to stand u

an interesting decision and a place to take a jab at jeb bush. bush was a little more reluctant to engage. i asked him yesterday if he thought that walker was the frontrunner. scott walker is also here in new hampshire today. he called himself a possible frontrunner. do you think that's a premature assessment, how do you judge it? >> i'm not a candidate. maybe i am i don't know. i'm not -- you can't be a frontrunner until you start running. >> reporter: so there you have it. can't be a frontrunner until you start running. bush later in the day i asked him if he thought walker was a flip-flopper. he's taken heat in the press over the past couple of days on changing his position on issues like immigration and the renewable fuel standard. bush didn't want to go after them. he did not engage to the degree that walker did on bush. he did acknowledge when pressed that walker has changed his position on immigration. we'll see how that tussle evolves and whether bush ultimately decides to play ball. >> he also -- bush -- talking about immigration common c

jeb bush is a fine man, what he did was nothing wrong. i am saying there's a double standard in media coverage where we are not pointing out this precedent for what hillary clinton did, whether it is a governor or whether it is secretary of state powell that's all. >> secretary of state powell did not control his own home server. we know that. >> excuse me governor bush did. when you make these distinctions, you're in argument, not doing facts. you want to argue with me that's your right as host of a program. >> i am not a host of a show that argues. i ask awe question. >> can we not talk about jeb bush having a home server? why did you admit that. >> we had you on as a guest to discuss this. >> excuse me. it was a partial release. it was not a document dump. that's false. his press secretary said that you guys reported it. he released a portion. he did not release his personal. there was no dump. he had his own server at home and you didn't say that at the same time, you mention general powell. >> let me ask you this then. you refer to t

this was about a new jeb bush trying to say he's thinking about running for president. >> anybody otherlker and bush make a positive impression on this crowd? >> reporter: well, i was surprised to hear people say that they actually thought that chris christie had some good answers and surprisingly even some positive response for george pataki. i will tell you that scott walker had a lot of warm reception at the ag summit. >> absolutely, kelly o'donnell, nice work, thanks very much. >>> up next, 50 years since selma. much of course has changed but there is a lot that hasn't. the great congressman john i knew instantly that this was...wow! it's crest hd. it's amazing. new crest hd gives you a 6x healthier mouth and 6x whiter teeth in just one week. it gets practically every detail. that's why it's called hd. try new crest pro-health hd. i already feel like we're the most connected but i think this solo date will seal the deal. sure! i offer multi-car, safe driver, and so many other discounts that people think i'm a big deal. and boy, are they right. ladies, i can share hundreds in savings

here is a picture of jeb bush's face. mr. bush: there are few that can tell that story the way i can. i advocated my views on moral issues. this will all sort out. in order for a conservative to win we have to unite the conservative cause not divide ourselves in spare parts, and persuade people that aren't as conservative. we have to get to 50. winning should be what this is about. john: that is jeff answering the new york times story on evangelicals. here is the question that arises out of these things. is -- is his biggest opponent some republicans, or is he beaten by his own self? mark: given his strength and fund-raising as a former conservative governor of florida, if he performs if people like his product, if you sells it well he can't be beat. i think right now it is his to lose if he performs. it is possible. i keep hearing it is possible republicans won't buy what he is saying. it is possible that dog won't even dog food. john: and the fish jump out of the tank. you and i were struck by those focus groups in new hamp

>> bueno, yo pienso que el contrincante mÁs serio serÍa jeb bush-- >> ¿por quÉ, fabiÁn?ado tan arduamente en este paÍs para lograr un poco de dignidad, es el tema que Él, tanto como hillary, estÁn de acuerdo de que hay que legalizar a esta gente que tanto ha trabajado en este paÍs, y yo pienso que eso es un tema muy importante, que si jeb bush gana la precandidatura republicana, espero que no se mueva de su plataforma, ese tema tan importante, que Él ha bogado a favor de una regularizaciÓn para los indocumentados en este paÍs. >> y una cosa, jorge, ya ha hablado frente-- a las facciones mÁs conservadoras de nuestro partido, se reunieron aquÍ en washington, se llama cpac en inglÉs. se reuniÓ y ratificó sus posiciones al respecto. no cambiÓ-- >> veremos quÉ es lo que pasa. >> yo creo que es un candidato que sigue con la misma trayectoria. >> jorge, como vimos en la Última elecciÓn presidencial con los precandidatos, algunos precandidatos, cuando sienten la presiÓn de los activistas del partido republicano que estÁn hacia la derecha del partido, muchas veces lo que pasa es

if that's the case, it's not good for jeb bush. if ted cruz is on our nominee, it's not at all good -- >> the republican party is going to get stuck with this guy as a guy so close to the top bush will have to -- anybody who's in bed with ted cruz is going to lose. anyway, the -- i think i just did. >> ted cruz has a talent for making solid by conservative republicans look like squishes and moderates by comparison. that's how we got the government shutdown. that's the real danger. >> he won't attack bush directly yet. i've asked ted cruz on multiple occasions if jeb bush is too moderate for the republican party. he's not yet willing to go there. >> does he want on the ticket? >> ted cruz? i'm sure he would take a spot on the digit. >> that would be very -- >> he's playing number two. >> whether it would be offered is another question entirely. >> i doubt it. >> that's going to make sarah palin look like queen elizabeth. the roundtable is staying with us. >>> we'll be right back next to talk about what's going on and why bibi gets aw

jeb bush is off to a start. "this week," david wright, abc news, cedar rapids. >> thanks to david for that. we're back with the roundtable right now and, nicolle wallace, i want to start with you, of course, you worked for jeb bush in the past. you saw david wright. gave him pretty good review, mark halperin gave him pretty good reviews yesterday, as well. probably his most confident campaign performance yet but is facing aight in iowa. >> yeah, david wright made the exact point about what jeb accomplished yesterday. he proved to everybody that he can connect, and i worked for him. i went to countless events with him, and he is always real in the room, always. there's nothing -- no manufactured emotion. there are no talking points. he writes his own talking points so i think that iowa is a great place. i think iowa gets a bad rap for having this conservative litmus test. that's part of it but also the most sophisticated political analysts in the republican party. they want someone who could win so you saw jeb sp

jeb bush still has some work to do here. but people seemed interested to get to know him. s to campaigns past in the bush family. this was about a new jeb bush trying to say he's thinking about running for president. >> anybody other than walker and bush make a positive impression on this crowd? >> reporter: well, i was surprised to hear people say that they actually thought that chris christie had some good answers, and surprisingly even some positive response for george pataki. i will tell you that scott walker had a lot of warm reception at the ag summit. >> absolutely, kelly o'donnell, nice work, thanks very much. >>> up next, 50 years since selma. much, of course, has changed, but there is a lot that hasn't. the great congressman john lewis, living american hero, joins us next. 80% of the poor in africa are rural farmers. 96% of them are doing rain-fed agriculture. they're all competing with each other; they're all making very low margins making enough to survive but not enough to get out of poverty. so kickstart designs low cost irrigation pumps enabling them to grow

this was about a new jeb bush trying to say he's thinking about running for president. >> anybody otherhan walker and bush make a positive impression on this crowd? >> reporter: well, i was surprised to hear people say that they actually thought that chris christie had some good answers and surprisingly even some positive response for george pataki. i will tell you that scott walker had a lot of warm reception at the ag summit. >> absolutely, kelly o'donnell, nice work, thanks very much. >>> up next, 50 years since selma. much of course has changed but there is a lot that hasn't. the great congressman john when you ache and haven't slept... you're not you. tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. we give you a better night. you're a better you all day. tylenol®. heroes charge! ♪ (explosion) ♪ (explosion) ♪ (explosion) ♪ lead your heroes in the hit mobile game! download heroes charge now! in just this one moment, your baby is getting even more than clean. the scent, the lather, even the tiny bubbles of a johnson's® bath are helping to enhance the experien

>> ted cruz or jeb bush? i think having the third -- yes, having the third bush versus the first woman is going to attract 15 to 18% republican women and independent women to say, i'm going with the first woman. i don't think that's a fair fight. i think arguing about how you prosper under the bill clinton economy or either the bush economies is not a fight that the republican party definitely should want to take on. chris and david. i do think the fact that 77% of republicans say they are for generational change in the party, including a majority of seniors means they've been watching the democratic party. they were all told, you can't win. we have 20 years democratic presidencies them dealing with the republican candidates never do, which is to resist moralism and go for somebody new. >> okay. here's the question. parties have to make a decision, are they going for the gold or silver? and 72 of the democrats said they couldn't beat nixon for re-election but picked a guy they could really believe in. eight y

jeb bush's brother george w. bush won in 2000.ry politics this is the first contest, the starting line this is what can either kill a campaign or can launch a campaign and that's why we're seeing nine candidates here today. when it comes down to the general election iowa you know tends not to be as important, michael. it is important in a purple state, doesn't has as anyone electoral votes in general but in a primary very important. >> if i'm mike murphy whispering into the ear of jeb bush i have to believe i'm saying governor you're dammed if you do dammed if you don't, huckabee won it in '08, santorum in 2012 neither went on to capture the gop nomination. if you don't go out and compete in des moines it will probably be an affront to republican activist activists. >> absolutely right. in fact last night when he did his first appearance here in iowa he said he's going to come back regularly. today they're not talking about social conservative issues which are important in the iowa caucuses. certainly for republicans they're going

the heavyweight matchup up there, jeb bush and scott walker. ch candidates' first visit to the granite state in years. right now, walker has clearly stolen the hot hand from bush. in december, 63% of republicans said they could see themselves supporting bush versus 33% for walker. in just a few months though bush's numbers have dropped 14 points. this is among republicans, remember. walker's have soared by 20. they're now neck and neck in that metric. walker's clearly got the momentum here. bush has some friends in some very high places and fund-raising machine that could outspend mr. monopoly if it wanted to. john brabender, republican strategist, ron reagan is an msnbc political analyst. john, let me start with you. we show those poll numbers right there. the nbc/"wall street germjournal" poll last week. scott walker, the number of republicans who say they could vote for him has risen that much but the others are twice as high when it comes to jeb bush as it is with scott walker. what is scott walker tapping into in the republican party? >> pe

bush's presidency, that's the rise of the tea party and all that sort of thing, that they look at jeb bushnd say, well, the reason we got into the whole mess we have with president obama and all that is because of the bush. we need somebody more conservative than that. it's a different party right now. >> well, i think you're absolutely right. listen, we're talking about this because jeb bush and scott walker represent the two different halves of the republican party. it's a bit of an oversimplification. you can divide the pie into more chunks than just in half. jeb bush, of course, represents the establishment of the republican party and tabbed into the establishment money already. but scott walker has the heat behind him and appeals to the right wing of the republican party, the tea party, if you will. jeb bush's problem really i think and why his numbers have gone down so far, he's boring. i think his numbers were high until he got into the race. and then people started to look at his record a little bit, particularly the conservatives and not liking what they see on, say, immigration,

he is jeb bush and he is a fine with that. at a time when he is trying to show that he is not his brother or his father, he is his own man. it is a pretty good part of winning the argument. we cover that health party in dover, new hampshire, -- host: if you haven't seen it, you will want to get a real sense of intimacy at the home of the former chair of the state republican party. he is also writing a book on new hampshire's role in the primary process. this morning, a piece from "the washington post" with the headline -- joining us from london, england, your take on all of this from across the pond. caller: oh, hi. i think it is quite strange for the republicans. i am sitting here in london i don't see what the policies are and they seem to be obsessed with obama. everything he says and does is opposite to what they say. they just say no, they have no policies at all. what is the republican policy and their vision? what are their policies? they don't seem to come up with anything at all. what is their vision for america in th

chris: jeb bush. fred: jeb bush for the establishment.cott walker for the farther right wing will stop mark -- farther right wing. mark: thank you. john: after the break, our exclusive report on what you will and likely to use for her campaign. might use. is likely to use. probably won't use. ♪ mark: well hillary clinton the side when combining if, if she's going to announce her campaign madison avenue is already bringing up -- dreaming of slogans she could use. we asked them to bring some about her very best possible campaign bumper sticker themes. -- brainstorms about her very best campaign bumper sticker themes. collect hillary is all about convenience. hillary clinton: i opted for convenience. convenience. correct i'm thinking "hillary, putting convenience first." that is just one option. there's also family. hillary clinton: i'm still in the grandmotherly glow. >> i'm thinking, hillary, the challenges, real grandma. it turns out she loves yoga. americans love yoga. ever seen one of these? i'm thinking "hillary now must stay for ameri

." >>> the bottom line is that jeb bush is pro-gay. >> the anti-right is jeb bush. >> this disqualifies jeb bush from consideration for the gop nomination. >> tonight, why it appears that 2016's allegedly gay-friendly candidate is starting to pander to the base. >> then what is rudy talking about? >> it is an african-american president stood up and said -- i hate to mention it because of what happened afterwards -- the kind of stuff that bill cosby said. >>> and plus new video from the boston bombing trial, and can dzhokhar tsarnaev's strategy work work? >>> and plus -- ♪ tap along if you feel that the room without a roof sfoet ♪ -- >> and marvin gaye's family sets its sight on the new blurred line verdict. >> and we are will talk to the man behind the verdict. "all in" starts right now. >>> i'm chris hayes. and building a campaign behind jeb bush behind the republican campaign that was once a unifying issue, gay rights. today, the man giving a a speech right now was hailed by buzzfeed last month as the gay-friendly republican thanks to who he has hired. be bush's campaign manager in wa

there is a new poll that shows jeb bush is no longer ahead in new hampshire.e is basically tied with scott walker. in republican circles, murmurs are being murmured about bush's apparent flaws and apparently there are many. if jeb bush is in a barrel of cindy crisis -- semi crisis what are the elements of it? john: one is what we pointed to for a long time. he has fund-raising strength above all. there is almost nothing else that he really has. his whole numbers are fine but not great. the result clear safety can really win and there are many in the republican party that air saying they like him find what they want a new generation of leadership to take on hillary clinton. those words are getting louder and louder all the time. mark: he is a paper tiger in the view of many. the excitement over marco rubio in florida and around the country highlights the weakness of jeb bush. not a youngnew face or young. two, people are concerned about the bush brand. there is no way to put that to rest. the last thing is he has not found a way to put the rest conservative con

is jeb bush part of the republican base or apart of it?it not for 19th century history, would anyone call the conservative dominated party the party of lincoln? the facts are there in front of us. the strength of what securities the republican congress is centered now in the south, believed that his election was reason itself for civil war. where is it weak? where is it lost in space of belief? no longer the vote for civil rights and voting rights for the mid '60s. their ambition has been a push to limit voting rights especially for minorities with voting i.d. requirements. this is what they did with poll taxes. the question is how will this movement end up. will the right wing push the bush-boehner club, or will they put them in their plaits, taking votes and bouncing candidates, crust, huckabee, and carsons into the back seats. the speaker's defeat on homeland security, the weakness of bush in the polls come to a division. for the first time in a half century i can see the right doing the bouncing and heading for the wild political horiz