sir, you said you never delivered a message to jeff sessions. that's what you said, right? you are asked to deliver that message, is not correct sir? >> i believe that's accurate. as comprised in the report, yes. but the meeting never transpired. >> and you said you never did anything other than what was completely legal and you said that because you knew if you delivered the message that told the attorney general to instruct the special counsel to limit the investigation to exclude the president, that would not be legal. is not correct, sir? >> mr. berke, i didn't have the privilege of going to harvard law school and i'm not an attorney. what i know is i didn't think at the time the president asked me to deliver a message, i didn't think there was anything illegal about it. i didn't have the privilege to go to harvard law, so if you're telling you that is your opinion, that is your opinion, but i never assume so, haven't thought about it -- >> you did think about it. >> what else have i thought about, mr. berke? >> point of order, mister chairman. the witness doesn't get t

that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish, like that fish that you're trying to be right now, being scaled. you felt squeamish about delivering that message, correct? >> no, sir. >> well, why didn't you -- why did it take you so long and you never even delivered it. >> correct, i never delivered the message. >> you chickened out. >> i went on vacation. >> you went on vacation. so you put the message in the safe, in your safe, in your home, for safe keeping. correct, before you went on vacation. >> i took my kids to the beach. that was more a priority. >> president trump was hounding you about when are you gonna deliver that message, correct? >> completely inaccurate, congressman. >> he asked you about it a few times, didn't he? >> no, he did not. >> he never asked you whether or not you had delivered that question? >> not on multiple occasi

now, that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish about delivering that message? >> no, sir. >> why did it take you so long and you never even delivered it? >> correct. i never delivered the message. >> you chickened out? >> i went on vacation. >> you went on vacation. >> and so you put the message in your safe in your home for safekeeping, correct? before you went on vacation? >> i took my kids to the beach, that was more of a priority. >> and president trump was hounding you about when are you going to deliver that message, correct? >> completely inaccurate, congressman. >> well, he asked you about it a few times, didn't he? >> no he did not. >> he never asked you whether or not you had delivered that message. >> not on multiple occasions, no. >> one occasion, okay? you did mention on one occasion to you. >> i don't know if that's in the report,

lewandowski: i never delivered any document to jeff sessions. i never had any conversation with attorney general sessions. i have spoken with him on dozens of occasions but never did i ask him to interfere with the mueller investigation are ask them to do anything other than what was completely legal. which was to continue to do his job. >> you said you never delivered a message to jeff sessions. that's what you said in there, you were asked to deliver that message. isn't that correct? mr. lewandowski: i believe it is accurate as comprised in the report, but the meeting never transpired. >> you knew if you delivered that message that told the attorney general to limit the investigation to exclude the president, that would not be legal. mr. lewandowski: i did not have the privilege to go to harvard law school, i am not an attorney. i do not have the privilege of going to harvard law school. i never assumed that and never thought about at the time and have not thought about it now. what else have i thought about, mr. burke? what else have i thought

at the justice department at jeff sessions' office because he didn't want jeff sessions' logs to show he was there. he was asked why he didn't want a public record of him entering the justice department >> isn't it a fact you didn't want a public log because you knew what you were doing was wrong. so just as the president went to an unofficial non-government employee, you wanted to make sure there was no record of it isn't that right, sir? >> no. >> do you agree that a log would create a record of a visit with the attorney general >> i would think so, yes >> and you told the attorney general you did not want a public log of your visit, and that's one reason you didn't go to the department of justice, because you didn't want a public log, correct >> i don't go to the department of justice i've never been to the department of justice. i don't want to do anything based on what happens at the department of justice, to be honest with you. >> gary burke insisted that the reason corwin lewandowski didn't deliver that message is because corey lewandowski knew that wouldn't be legal. >> you sa

he was my primary point of contact for jeff sessions during the trump campaign and i also knew that mr. dearborn had continued, like i did, to have a long standing relationship with jeff if i wasn't going to be seeing jeff, i figured rick would be able to deliver that message >> rick dearborn never delivered that message because, as he told the fbi for the special counsel's report, doing so made him feel uncomfortable that's understandable, because it was arguably criminal obstruction of justice by the president, that the president was asking corey lewandowski to carry out. corey lewandowski didn't want to do it and so asked rick to do it instead. and, no, rick didn't want to do it either. so although there were both proverbial dogs and ponies at the dog and pony show today and corey lewandowski did spend much of the first half of this hearing insulting democratic members of congress and praising the president's brilliance and decrying the fake russia narrative and repeating the line of no conspiracy, no collusion, in the end, corey lewandowski, the president's campaign manager, did ha

. >> he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> that was a rare admission today. lewandowski's wrangling and evading in a hearing that continues was so thick there are even some independent experts suggesting today he may have failed to do the bare minimum of cooperating with the congressional probe, which means congress could technically hold him in contempt for that that's what one congressman was asking for and today chairman nadler reportedly is still considering all the options. so you take this together and here's what we have. the democrats held an obstruction of justice hearing to get facts about potential obstruction and the key trump witness looked more like he was covering up the facts than providing them that's bad by any measure. democrats say that itself looks like an element of the crime of obstruction. trump's allies, though, they stress lewandowski was never c

when lewandowski was asked directly by the president to deliver a message to attorney general jeff sessions the message was that sessions should tell special counsel robert mueller that mueller could no longer investigate the trump campaign or the 2016 election he instead had to limit his investigation to elections in the future, to crimes, in other words, that had not yet occurred the president also told corey lewandowski that if jeff sessions refused to meet with him to receive this very important message, then corey lewandowski, who was not a white house employee, should nevertheless take it upon himself to fire the attorney general. if just rando civilians had the power to fire the attorney general, who among us would not have fired one or two over the course of an average lifetime? right? i hereby retroactively fire edward meese ed meese, be gone. you were terrible. good-bye, john mitchell. i fire you too i'm a citizen. what if we could do that it's ridiculous. it's very satisfying in some instances to imagine this. regardless, this is what the president reportedly told corey lewandows

now, that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish about delivering that message? >> no, sir. >> why did it take you so long and you never even delivered it? >> correct. i never delivered the message. >> you chickened out? >> i went on vacation. >> you went on vacation. >> and so you put the message in your safe in your home for safekeeping, correct? before you went on vacation? >> i took my kids to the beach, that was more of a priority. >> and president trump was hounding you about when are you going to deliver that message, correct? >> completely inaccurate, congressman. >> well, he asked you about it a few times, didn't he? >> no he did not. >> he never asked you whether or not you had delivered that message? >> not on multiple occasions, no. >> one occasion, ok? you did mention on one occasion to you. >> i don't know if that's in the report, si

now, that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions. correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation, and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people. right? >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish, like a, like that fish that you are trying to be right now, being scaled, you felt a little squeamish about delivering that message. correct? >> no, sir. >> well, why didn't you, why dp did it take you so long and you never even delivered it. >>> correct. i never delivered it, you chickened out. >> i went on vacation. >> i went on vacation. so you put the, you put the message in the safe, in your safe, in your home, for safe keeping. ject before you went on vacation? >> i took my kids to the bich, congressman. more of a priority. >> and president trump was hounding you, when are you going to deliver that message? correct? >> completely inaccurate, congressman. well, he askeds you about it a few times. didn't he? >> no, he did not. >> he never asked you whether or not you had delivered that message? >>

they have to bring in jeff sessions, they have to bring in don mcgahn, all of those can have a combined effect. what's really missing here that we had in the watergate situation was a cooperative prosecutor. what's going on now with william barr, who is not producing any of the underlying documents in theme mueller investigation. he's not producing the statements that people made so people can be effectively cross examined in the hours of the hearings. >> what do they do about it? >> what they have to do is do the best they can with the mueller report. they have to go into court and try to push to get that ey underlying information. under the law, they are entitled to the grand jury information. they are entitled to those underlying interview reports. ushd the constitution, it says the house of representatives shall have the sole power of impeachment. that means a a court enforcing these subpoenas, their only job is to enforce it. if they don't produce, they go to jail. >> what grade would you give corey lewandowski as a witness? >> probably a d mite dmus. probably he's probably one of

in the trump-written speech, jeff sessions would announce that the special prosecutor's investigation of the president is unfair, and the special prosecutor would only be allowed, from this point forward, to investigate the possibility of, quote, election meddling for future elections so that nothing can happen in future elections congressman eric swalwell asked corey lewandowski to read his notes of his conversation with the president as reproduced in the mueller report, and lewandowski refused to read his words aloud. >> you were ashamed to read them out loud and you didn't deliver those words to the person the president asked you to, did you have a consciousness of guilt? >> i have nothing to be guilty of, congressman. thank you. >> do you still feel guilty today and that's why you can't read it out loud >> congressman, you can read it if you'd like. >> when the members of the committee finally finished their questioning, about five minutes after the hearing began, it was finally time for 30 minutes of questioning reserved by gary burke who was serving as chairman of the committee

the president had also personally called jeff sessions at home and asked him to un-recuse himself and oversee the special counsel's investigation, and session said no. when the president asked you to deliver his message, did the president tell you sessions had already said no? volume two, page 107? >> i recognize the privilege is not mine, asked by the white tose -- i would be happy answer your question or you can have a conversation by yourself. rep. jackson lee: i want to continue. >> then don't ask. rep. jackson lee: this is a hashed -- house judiciary, not a house party. i would like my time restored from his interruption, please. >> the gentlelady controls the time. rep. jackson lee: so he was a witness. for that reason, session said publicly federal law prohibited his involvement in the special counsel's investigation. here is a quote from the report, volume two, pages 49 to 50 on-screen. yes or no. did the president tell you the attorney general was legally not allowed to take any part in the special counsel's investigation when he asked you to deliver him a note about that ver

now, that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions. krecorrect. >> i believe that's an accurate representation >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so jeff could say it to the people, right >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish like a, like that fish that you are trying to be right now, being scaled, you felt a little squeamish about tlifring that message, correct? >> no, sir >> well why did it take you soong and you never even delivered it >> correct i never delivered the message! you chickened out. >> i went on vacation. >> you went on vacation. [laughter] you put the message in your safe in your home for safekeeping correct? before you went on vacation. >> i took my kids to the beach, congressman. there was more of a priority >> president trump was houpding you about when are you going to deliver that message, correct? >> inaccurate, congressman >> well he asked you b about it a few time, didn't he? >> no, he did not. >> never asked you whether or not you had delivered that message? >> not on multiple occasions, no

on may 14th, 2019. >> i don't ever remember the president ever asking me to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape, or form ever. >> did you hear that, sir? that was you saying on msnbc you don't ever remember the president ever asking you to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in an? >> i heard that. >> and that was not true, was it >> i have no obligation to be honest to the media because they're just as dishonest as anybody else. >> so you're admitting, sir, you were not being truthful in that clip, correct? >> my interview with ari medi l medical -- >> about the special counsel's investigation? >> i don't recall that particular day and my mind-set at the time so i couldn't answer that. >> the beat with ari melber getting some air play inside congress yesterday he'll be with us coming up at the top of the hour. there's a ton to get through there. the nut of what we saw yesterday was corey lewandowski saying effectively, yes, the president of the united states did ask me to go to the attorney general jeff sessions at the tim

. [ applause ] >> jeff sessions is confirmed. it is a loss for warren, but her team capitalizes on the reprimand, plastering it on merchandise. >> this is a moment that would galvanize millions of democrats, liberals, progressives around her. >> we are the party of opposition, and that is our job. >> outspoken and unapologetic. elizabeth warren takes a leading role railing against the trump administration. >> we will band together to fight donald trump. >> it's a role she first embraces when president trump is candidate trump in the spring of 2016. >> she was listening to the indiana primary results come in and republican side. >> well, the takeover is complete now. it is trump's republican party. >> trump wins overwhelmingly, and she was so sort of appalled by this. she wrote a series of posts that were very critical of trump. >> days later, trump tweets back, launching a personal attack on her claim about her heritage. >> and they got into this realtime back and forth. >> their twitter war comes to life on the campaign trail. >

you didn't call jeff sessions, didn't try to meet with him.o the president asked you twice in the oval office to deliver a secret message to the attorney general of the united states. the message that quickly wrote down word for word at the president's direction. correct? sir? >> i believe i wrote it down. >> and when you worked for the president during this campaign did you ever ignore or disobey directions from president trump? >> i didn't believe it to be an order. >> you wanted to give the president the impression you would follow his orders, correct? >> no. >> you said, i'm going to take care of it? >> is that referenced in the report? >> did you tell the president you were going to deliver the message? >> i can't comment on a private conversation with the president, assert executive privilege. >> i'm sorry? >> i can read you the exact statement if you'd like. the white house direct i not disclose any comments with the president or -- >> taking my time. not going to stonewall me in my questioning. >> would you like me to answer your quest

jeff sessions , is that correct? >> i believe he asked me to deliver a message >> it was a message that he intended for jeff sessions to deliver out loud. he wanted the public to know what he was saying but he wanted jeff sessions to say it? but i believe the mueller report accurately depicts that. >> we have projected on the screen the message that the president dictated to you that he wanted you to deliver to the atty. gen.? it's on the screen and i would like you to read the first two sentences if you would entertain that. >> would you prefer for me to read it instead of you? >> it says i know that i recuse myself from certain things having to do with specific areas . potus is being treated very unfairly. that's what he told you to write down i will continue. he said he shouldn't have a special prosecutor counsel because you haven't done anything wrong. that is what he wanted you to deliver to atty. gen. jeff sessions is that correct? that is a accurate representation. he wanted it delivered so that the jeff sessi

white house counsel don mcgann to deliver this statement, these notes to then attorney general jeff sessions. and corey lewandowski avoided answering that question. then in the exchange with congressman johnson, when he was asked if he had "chickened out and not delivered the message to sessions?" he said he did not deliver the message because he had gone on a family vacation which elicited a lot of laughter, actually in the hearing room. also i would add for the two witnesses who are not here today, the white house console said it is something called, and i think that john was referencing, constitutional immunity, which is designed to protect the office of the presidency, republicans and democrats. but the republican chairman of the community jerry nadler said that that does not extend to peripheral like in this case, he said rick dearborn, that was, and this is his language "a corny privilege." rick dearborn matters because according to the mueller report, when lewandowski did not deliver the message to then attorney general jeff sessions, he tried to see if rick dearborn could be the mess

i don't remember the president ever asking me to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape or form, ever. >> ever, so i asked about the sessions report, lewandowski denies trump asked him to get involved with sessions or doj. l lewandowski admitted that was false. on fox news, he incorrectly claims the question was not about sessions. here is the full clip in fairness, so you can see for yourself. >> lewandowski, you told prosecutors he never acted on president trump's request that he push jeff sessions to fire bob mueller, but the panel played video of lewandowski saying something very different to msnbc's ari melber. >> i don't remember the president ever asking me to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape or form ever. >> that wasn't true, was it, sir? >> i heard that. >> and that was not true, was it. >> i have no obligation to be honest to the media, because they're just as dishonest as anybody else. >> i spoke with the president's former campaign member from new hampshire. corey lewandowski, welcome. >>

[applause] >> you worked with jeff sessions as senator, you worked with him on successful legislation and you went and talked to him as attorney general about this policy and what kind of reaction did you get? >> i thought i could have a personal connection or conversation because i knew him and had worked with him and i had seen how this was unfolding on the border and jeff sessions hadn't really seen it himself. the american people will not stand for it. it was a fairly lengthy conversation but all i got the talking point, the talking point was this, it is our job to deter immigration because we don't like it and furthermore if we deter it then we will be helping children. jeff, how are you helping children, if they don't take a difficult journey they don't face the difficulties of a journey and therefore we've helped the children, so hurting children became helping children in this kind of twisted world. >> zero tolerance policy has been going on for a child, any evidence of achieving goal? >> that's a great point, no is the answer. the -- the premise that people who are on the ver

>> that's right, i never met with jeff sessions -- >> martha: why didn't you? >> because i went on vacation. it wasn't a priority, to be honest with you. and i said this in the committee, the president asked me to have a conversation with jeff sessions, basically what is in the mueller report. i testified to the fact i believe that to be accurate. and then i just never did it. so they want to talk about what may have transpired, had i spoken to jeff sessions. but it is all speculation, because i never had the conversation. so what is there to potentially talk about? >> martha: i mean, it looks like -- let's play representative johnson on the spinal questioning. watch. >> felt a little squeamish about delivering not message, correct? >> no, sir. >> why did it take you so long, and you never even delivered it? >> correct, i never delivered the message. >> you chickened out. >> i went on vacation. >> you went on vacation? [laughter] >> martha: that got a lot of laughs. >> it was the summer time, my kids wanted to go to the beach. so i took my kids to the beach. th

, lewandowski did confirm details that the president did orders him to orders attorney general jeff sessions to limit the mueller investigation. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver it to attorney general jeff sessions, correct. >> i believe so. >> and he wanted him to say it to the people. >> i believe so. >> the president told him to obstruct the investigation. the mueller report concluded lewandowski did not carry out the president's order. the prosecutor found substantial cases of obstruction, at least two instances. >>> democratic candidates taking a shot at one another on a critical issue for voters. rvice. our 18 year old was in an accident. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. we're the gomez family... we're the rivera family... we're the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. get your auto insurance quote today. t-mobil

to limit the mueller investigation. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation that and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> no small admission there. he seems to be confirming under oath the president told him to obstruction the investigation. the mueller report concluded lewandowski did not carry out the president's ore. the prosecutors found there was substantial evidence of obstruction, at least ten of them. >>> tuesday's hearing grew so contentious chairman jerry nadler threatened to hold corey lewandowski in contempt. it included comedy when he asked several times in february when he claimed he did not ever remember the president asking him to speak with jeff sessions. >> my question, sir, is when the president -- >> i have no obligation to have a candid obligation to have a dan did meeting with the media. >> either you were willing to -- >> it's not my privilege to waive. >> i don't think it's anyone's privilege to waive. i think the whol

[video clip] i don't ever a member the president ever asking me to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice. [end of video clip] >> did you share that, that was you saying on msnbc, you don't ever remember the president ever asking you to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape or form. that was not true, was it? mr. lewandowski: i heard that. >> and that was not true. mr. lewandowski: i have no obligation to the media. >> so you are admitting you were not being truthful in that clip, correct? mr. lewandowski: my interview can be interpreted anyway you like. >> would you like me to play it again. mr. lewandowski: you are welcome too, please. >> i will play it one more time. [video clip] mr. lewandowski: i don't ever remember the president ever asking me to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way shape or form. [end of video clip] >> so it is true in may of 2019 you absolutely remembered when the president asked you to deliver a message to the attorney general of a speech for him to give related

watch this. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> so before we get to the theater of this, jeffrey. how important was that moment? >> well, you know, it really was extraordinary. hank johnson, the congressman from georgia, is the only member of congress who really was able to engage with lewandowski. otherwise lewandowski was stonewalling. but the point of that exchange is that here's lewandowski coming into the white house. and donald trump dictates word for word an instruction to lewandowski to tell jeff sessions then the attorney general about how he could unrecuse himself from the russia investigation and limit or limit nat the mueller investigation. that does seem to be very clear evidence of obstruction of justice. plus though this was contentious, it seemed very clear that lewandowski didn't follow that direction because lewandowski knew it was wrong. he made up various

[applause] you worked with jeff sessions on the successful legislation and went and talked to him as the attorney general about this policy. what kind of reaction did you get? >> i thought i could have a personal connection or conversation because i knew him and had worked with him, and i have seen how this was unfolding on the border and jeff sessions haven't really seen it himself. even though he was an architect of it. i wanted to call him up and i said this is not unfolding the way you think it is. and the american people are not going to stand for it. it was a fairly lengthy conversation but all i got were the talking points. it is our job to deter immigration because we don't like it. and furthermore, then we will be helping children. he says if they don't take it difficult journey, then they don't face the difficulties of the journey. and therefore he has helped the children. so, herding children became helping children in this kind of twisted world. the zero-tolerance policy has been going on for a while. is there any evidence that it is achieving its goal? >> that is a great

from the day he won the election. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish, like that fish that you are trying to be right now, being scaled, you felt a little squeamish about delivering that message, correct? >> no, sir. >> well, why didn't you -- why did it take you so long and you never even delivered it? >> correct, i never delivered the message. >> yeah, you chickened out. >> i went on vacation. >> you went on vacation. and so you put the message in the safe, in your safe, in your home, for safekeeping, correct? before you went on vacation? >> i took my kids to the beach, congressman. that was more of a priority. >> and president trump was hounding you about, when are you going to deliver that message, correct? >> completely inaccurate, congressman. >> well, he asked you about it a few times, didn't he? >> no, he did not. >> he never asked you whether or no

members of the panel make is that clearly lewandowski knew that it was to put the pressure on jeff sessions to either curtail the russia investigation and speak about it in less favorable terms, clearly he knew that was wrong because he didn't do it. corey lewandowski says that he went on vacation and didn't relay that message as the president hoped that he would. make of that what you will this hearing is the first of many as this committee really looks at this new approach as to how they will carry out this impeachment inquiry. next week is the question of emoluments at the president considers hosting the xwchlt g- year at his resort in florida. >> and ken, you were saying that the larger goal in addition to being an impeachment inquiry is to allow the public to hear through testimony some of the things that did come up in the mueller report, which were interesting reading. but that bill barr and the president had perhaps misled americans in to thinking was something else in so far as this was a narrative to get something out, today has been rocky >> yes, largely a failure and in part bec

johnson, during which he confirmed that the president told him to order then attorney general jeff sessions to curtail the mueller investigation. >> the white house has directed i not disclose the substance of any discussions with the president or his advisers to protect executive branch confidentiality. i recognize this is not my privilege, but i am respecting the white house's decision. as for actual collusion or conspiracy, there was none. what there has been, however, is harassment of this president from the day he won the election. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? >> i believe that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> and you felt kind of squeamish, like that fish that you are trying to be right now, being scaled, you felt a little squeamish about delivering that message, correct? >> no, sir. >> well, why didn't you -- why did it take you so long and you never even delivered it? >> correct, i never delivered the message. >> yeah, you

remember we heard this from jeff sessions, don junior. the idea of if case somebody wants to assert privilege, i'm going to say it. he said i know it's not my privilege to assert but i'm going to do so any way. if congress had not learned a lesson from jeff sessions two years ago, saying in case the president might want to assert it, aisi'm going to do it here. what's so absurd is imagine in the campaign chairman of senator harris or cory booker or elizabeth warren say whatever conversations we have right now, we are all covered. we can never have to reveal it. that would be an absurdity here. you're not covered because it was trump. >> everybody stand by. we have a lot more we need to discuss and we will right after a quick break. or nothing."table and it's definitely not "close enough or nothing." mercedes-benz suvs were engineered with only one mission in mind. to be the best. in the category, in the industry...in the world. lease the gla 250 suv for just $329 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothi

the president tried repeatedly to get jeff sessions to unrecuse himself from the probe. white house is already taking steps to limit the scope of lewandowski's testimony, saying he cannot talk about any conversations with the president beyond those that were outlined in the mueller report, and democrats are objecting, saying there's no right to block his testimony given that lewandowski was never a white house official. but the white house also denying it will from two former white house aides, rick dearborn and rob porter, saying they have immunity from testifying before congress. expect democrats to object to that effort as well, all impeachable by the white house instructing its former aides to n not comply with a white house subpoena. >> there's another big move. house oversight has launched an investigation into transportation secretary elaine chao. what have you heard about that? >> committee members sent a letter to the transportation department yesterday demanding information regarding what media reports suggesting there could be conflicts of interest alleging th

reporter: democrats pressed lewandowski on a request from trump to tell then-attorney general jeff sessions himself from the mueller information and limit its scope to only include future elections. dissipate never relaying that message, lewandowski confirms that president trump did make that request. >> did the president pick you his enforcer because you would argue even if illegal? >> that'd be a question for the president, congressman. >> reporter: in this heated exchange, a defiant lewandowski admitting he was not honest with the media. >> i have no obligation to have a candid conversation with the media just as they don't cover my honestly. >> so you're admitting you were lying there. >> i'm saying they have been inaccurate on many occasions and perhaps i was inaccurate. >> this is a house judiciary not a house party. >> you're not going to stone wall me in my questioning. >> are you the hit man, the bag man, the hit man, the lookout man or all of the above? >> i think i'm a good looking man, actually. >> are you ashamed of the words you wrote down? >> i'm happy what i've written but y

and this, of course, was the president's chief frustration of the prior occupant of that seat, jeff sessionscuse himself in the previous investigation, the russia investigation because he was a part of that. i mean, you could reasonably conclude that was a president that would require this attorney general because he certainly was involved based on records that the justice department reviewed, but again, remember, the president chose bill barr because he was not jeff session, right, and that he was going to not recuse himself, make himself a defender of the president, rather than the jeff sessions model here. >> yeah. >> so in this administration, you got a president but this is a different attorney general. >> lest goi he's going to make the personal attorney for the president rather than the attorney general of the united states. john, i hate to do this to you but i will because i can't imagine looking at tape of myself in 1973 but this is your warning to the president back in '73. watch this. >> i began by telling the president that there was a cancer growing on the presidency, and if the

you saying on msnbc you don't ever remember the president ever asking you to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape or form that wasn't true was it, sir >> i heard that. >> and that was not true, was it >> i have no obligation to the media because they're just as dishonest as anybody else. >> so you're admitting, sir, you were not being truthful in that clip, correct? >> my interview with ari melber can be interpreted anyway way you like >> and it is true in may 2019 you absolutely remembered when the president asked you to deliver a message to the attorney general of a speech for him to give related to the special counsel investigation, isn't that correct >> i'd have to think about it. >> that came, that explosive statement by cory lewandowski came after a day of high political theater on capitol hill after the democrats launched what's being called an impeachment inquiry. according to the mueller report trump directed lewandowski, that man testifying, to deliver a message to sessions, the attorney general asking sessions to squash the special counsel

sessions before you went on vacation? >> i was very clear about that. i had a conversation with jeff. and then i didn't see jeff, and i never delivered the message because i took my children on vacation. if that's the crime -- if there's a crime to take my children on vacation, i'm guilty as charged. >> corey, you didn't do it and you didn't do it because you must have thought it was wrong. >> alisyn, i didn't think anything was wrong. the president never asked me to commit a crime. he never asked me to do anything wrong. >> yes, he did. you admitted it yesterday. why are you not -- >> i admitted that he never asked me to commit a crime. you're absolutely right. i admitted yesterday the president never asked me to commit a crime. i concur with your decision. yes, that's accurate. >> corey, asking the attorney general to limit the scope of an investigation that the president is being investigated for is a crime. >> we're talking about a hypothetical conversation which never transpired -- >> this isn't hypothetical. >> and a meet chicaing which ne occurred. you can get all worked up abo

this was of course was the president's chief frustration with the prior occupant of that seat, jeff sessionscuse himself in the previous investigation, the russia investigation because he was a part of that. i mean, you could reasonably conclude that was a president that would require this attorney general because he certainly was involved based on records that the justice department reviewed, but again, remember, the president chose bill barr because he was not jeff session, right, and that he was going to not recuse himself, make himself a defender of the president, rather than the jeff sessions model here. >> yeah. >> so in this administration, you got a president but this is a different attorney general. >> he's going to make himself the personal attorney for the president rather than the attorney general of the united states. john, i hate to do this to you but i will because i can't imagine looking at tape of myself in 1973 but this is your warning to the president back in '73. watch this. >> i began by telling the president that there was a cancer growing on the presidency, and if the

what was his beef with jeff sessions? it was more the issue of not recusing, or was there something more to it? one person, corwin lewandowski, he didn't follow the direction. why didn't he do so? what was the reason for that? did he know it was illegal in some way and the president is claiming, i had no idea? we'll see. >> so he never worked for the trump administration, right? so assuming, as the white house is asking that he not answer questions about during that time period of trump being in the white house, does he really have a leg to stand on with that legally? >> well, it is a very aggressive and unusual and novel interpretation of executive privilege to say two things as it relates to corwin lewandowski. one, it applies to communications with individuals who are not white house employees. he was not a white house aide. usually executive privilege is asserted when it pertains to information people in the white house are giving the president. two, communications he had with the president even before he became attor

"the president asks corey lewandowski to deliver a message to attorney general jeff sessions to curtail the special counsel investigation." he's in the table of contents. that section of the mueller report has a gajillion references to corey lewandowski's interviews with the fbi about the president telling him that he should tell jeff sessions to end the special counsel's investigation, that he needed to stop looking at trump and his campaign. there's details in there about lewandowski sort of confessing to the fbi that he locked up his notes from that conversation with the president in a safe. there's notes from his conversations with the fbi about the president telling corey lewandowski that he should go ahead and tell the attorney general that the attorney general was fired if he didn't go along with this plan and corey lewandowski is, like, how do i fire the attorney general? i don't even work for the government. i can fire him? again, corey lewandowski should be testifying in open session tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. the judiciary committee in the house. rick dearborn, a former d

including one in which the president told lewandowski to order the attorney general jeff sessions to say publicly that the special counsel investigation was not fair and to announce that sessions would be instructing mueller to refocus the investigation to look at future elections. lewandowski is doing everything he can to frustrate the democrats seeking his testimony. cnn's manu raju is on capitol hill. manu, what has lewandowski been able to see about the meetings he had with president trump? >> reporter: rl he's defending meeting and he said he didn't have any concerns with the president's private comments about limiting the scope of the mueller probe. now he did confirm the elements that were in the mueller report. namely, that the meetings that occurred in 2017, the president directing lewandowski to deliver a message toev sessions to unrecuse himself and to limit the investigation going forward and instead focus on future campaigns. he said those are accurate descriptions in the mueller report. but, jake, it took him some time to get there. initially he said he wasn't aware of

the announcement delivered at a press conference at which former attorney general jeff sessions called daca recipients illegal aliens, and the policy unlawful. i interviewed a number of daca recipients in course of writing this book. one told me, she used her lunchbreak to listen to the ples press conference by attorney general sessions, she said just hearing everything he said, knowing it was such a lie, such bull, it was a pretty defeating dehumanizing moment. other daca recipients talked about the mental toll. he said, i think it is not so much about the affect of the policies, that are being enacted which are dangerous and poisonous to the democracy. but it is psychological warfare we're subjected on a daily basis. we live in a time where president is just pick up the phone, send out a tweet, then you spend a whole day deciphering it, how bad is it? how bad isn't it? followed by bad actors across all agencies that are trying to de minish any real idea that nation continues to be a nation of immigrants. litigation in courts have stopped daca from being stopped, u.s. supreme court wi

[cÁnticos] fernando: hace dos aÑos que el exfiscal general jeff sessions anunciÓ que la administraciónÓvenes soÑadores recuerda la ansiedad durante el 2017, pero agregan que el programa sigue vigente. >> dos aÑos despuÉs nunca hubiese pensado que todavÍa en este momento podrÍamos tener el programa como estÁ hoy. ahorita todavÍa los jÓvenes pueden renovar y hace dos aÑos no se sentÍa en ese momento. fernando: la corte suprema deberÁ decidir el destino de "daca". en agosto el departamento de justicia opino que donald trump actuÓ legalmente hace dos aÑos al terminar el programa. 12 estados apoya la decisiÓn de donald trump. la organizaciÓn conservadora de iniciativa libre propone una soluciÓn permanente para los dreamers. >> nos propusimos en ese entonces y ahora porque sabÍamos que en cualquier momento el prÓximo presidente podrÍa remover las protecciones y es lo que estamos viendo ahora. lo que estamos viendo de la corte, es que el congreso debe tomar el tema. fernando: la corte suprema va a escuchar el caso de "daca" de "daca" el prÓximo 12 de septiembre. desde washington, fernado piza

. >> he never acted on president trump's request that he push jeff sessions to fire bob mueller but theplayed video saying something very different to msnbc's -- >> i don't remember the president asking me to get involved with jeff sessions or the department of justice in any way, shape or form. >> that wasn't true, sir? >> i heard that. >> i have no obligation to be honest with the media because they are just as dishonest as anybody else. >> i spoke with president's former campaign manager from new hampshire. welcome. >> thank you, howie, thanks for having me. >> let's start with your declaration at the hearing, i have no obligation to be honest with the media because you consider them to be dishonest, why should anybody watching on the airways say maybe this time he's decided not to tell the truth? >> well, howie as you know and what your listeners saw that day was they took 8-second video clip of me, completely out of context and put it up on the screen, is this truthful and what the video clip was of me answering a question that i hadn't met with the special counsel yet and the reas

. >> that's what he wanted you to deliver to attorney general jeff sessions, correct? so that's an accurate representation. >> and he wanted you to deliver it to jeff so that jeff could say it to the people, right? >> i believe so. >> let's do the speaker's anger first and come back to corey lewandowski. we've known for some time she thinks don't put this cart out in front of the horse, the senate's not going to do anything, even if we have a case for impeachment, it's risky for us in 2020. she's now in meetings being critical of the chairman and his staff. what does that tell us? >> the staff part is really important here, because nancy pelosi, if you're a duly elected member, if you are one of the 435, she knows you're important. you are a vote. if you are staff, you're staff. she once looked at the omb negotiations -- correct me if i got it wrong, i think her exact words were, "and what's your a"? so staff should be staff. this is one of the most critical decisions the house of representatives can make, impeaching the president or not. the right wing is very much ag

meanwhile in may 2018 attorney general jeff sessions announced a zero tolerance policy for those crossing the border without papers, jeff sessions if you cross the border unlawfully we will prosecute you, policy also extended to asylum seekers, related to zero tolerance policy and later found out would be wholly unrelated was practice by the trump administration to separate parents from their children at the border. said president trump, i hate the children being taken away, the democrats have to change their law. the statement is misleading as there's no statute, no regulation, no case law that requires family separation, as described by a former ins official i interviewed, to define refugees as national security threat to the country, we haven't thought that way for decades. crucial to the conversation of discretion is not just who we deport but also how we deport. in june 2018 president trump tweeted, had included tweet there, we cannot allow all of these people to invade our country, when somebody comes in, we must immediately with no judges, no court cases bring them back to where th

fired by jeff sessions. andrew, contributor to cnn.w mccabe fired by jeff sessions at the behest of donald trump and i note, let go, i believe, within 24 hours of being eligible to receive his pension after two decades at the fbi. fired by john kelly. i said previous twitter john kelly who fired omarosa. i don't know about quibbling for that and the mooch after his 11-day run. lots and lots of ways to be fired by donald trump. notice what wasn't on a screen? fired in person by donald trump. he's not big in that. >> how about that? and came to partial fame. going down the firing rabbit hole, thank you for that refresher. meantime, lawmakers are looking at how to stop more mass shootings like the tragedies in texas and ohio. the house judiciary committee taking up several gun bills to limit access to high capacity magazines block anyone of misdemeanor hate crimes buying firearms and for states to adopt referred to as red flag laws. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell resisted bringing the bill to the senate expand federal background c

in which lewandowski recalls a time when trump a instructed him to tell former attorney general jeff sessionsn lewandowski was told not to answer any questions about that exchange, but since lewandowski never worked for the