we wish you the best in your recovery for jefferson county and east of texas.ublic information officer for jefr soferson count texas. i'll send this back to my colleague kristen welker. while you're doing that, we're going to try to nurse this baby squirrel back to health. >> let's hope you can. incredible coverage there. we'll check back in a few moments for an update on the squirrel and everything there. we want to get to headlines happening in our country right now, a lot on top of the massive hurricane. we just learned a million more people in the u.s. filed for unemployment last week. more than 180,000 americans have now died from covid-19. wildfires are tearing through our western states. the republicans will formally renominate president trump tonight for re-election. >>> up next, we're going to drill into the jacob blake case in wisconsin. the new information we're learning about the minutes leading up to his death. we'll talk about new his storic calls for justice. many agent leases are telling the nation now is not the time for sports. we're back afte

tree damage has been reported in jefferson county as well as the other surrounding counties around this region. i hear from some reports that we would expect to see even greater tree damage as you go further up north into east texas. other damage reports will come in over the course of the day. we do have teams in this region already, whether it be search and rescue, law enforcement, the national guard, assessment teams that are covering every city, every county, every region to make damage assessments but also to go about the process to determine the safety of everybody who lives in this area. i want to get one confirmation, i have, from you, in interstate ten is currently closed. >> all the way to the border on the louisiana side. take the louisiana side. >> i attend is open all the way to the border. i did have the opportunity to speak with government edwards of louisiana this morning. he was his typical self and ready to offer help to texas so he's in good spirits and i know the people of louisiana are dealing with challenges themselves right now and texas stands ready to help our n

i'm in jefferson county.he adjacent county, orange, have seen over 50-mile-an-hour winds. the storm surge so far has been a non-event here. just walking around, you're not seeing flooded streets. you're seeing empty streets, which means for the most part people were listening to local leaders whose advice was to get out of town but don't stay here. the interstate that runs through this part of texas are empty, but portions are closed. that's closest to the texas/louisiana border. we're roughly 60 miles from lake charles. you mentioned a second ago the eye of the storm moving north toward lake charles. we're about 50 to 60 miles an hour where it first made landfall. this is an area that's probably breathing a bit of a sigh of relief, given the fact we're seeing strong winds but not necessarily the trifecta of very concerning conditions. they were worried about the storm surge and the heavy rainfall being the other two. but concerning nonetheless as we know the storms are unpredictable. the paths can change. th

-- probable -- the only place to vote during the primary in jefferson county. if you look at other states, north carolina, kentucky, pennsylvania, etc., election officials are working hard to secure enough sites to make sure there are more sites available, because smaller sites are not appropriate right now because we cannot socially distance, or there are sites we have used in the past like senior centers where there are too many people at risk. they were going to be some precinct consolidations, fewer sites -- there are probably going to be some precinct consolidations, fewer sites. it is a major concern for all of us working elections, including election officials from both parties around the part -- around the country. we have to make sure voters feel safe and can get to a voting place conveniently. host: our next caller on the republican line. caller: i've got one question for him. why didn't he come out two days after stacey abrams said all the voting was fraud and tell her about his wonderful system? why would anyone in the right mind want to vote early,

we lost power to 50,000 people in texas, in jefferson county and also in orange county, but to most affectedcounties on the southeastern portion of texas right now. those are going to be the areas especially orange county that will be affected the most by the storm surge as well as the wind. orange county, texas is getting that i wall so we know texas has emergency personnel and 400 buses that nearly hundred aircraft, 200 boats, i water vehicles ready to come in and most of that concentration will be added toward bridge city and orange city which is just north of jefferson county, most of the power outages are in jefferson county, we lost power but across the street there are lights that are still on and i would say based on the outage map, port arthur lost power but compared to what we have been going through it is amazing, a lob a little bit to the left, 15 or 20 miles. port arthur was worried about that search and the good news is the surge is not the store, high wind in some areas with southeastern portion of texas along the border from louisiana and texas but orange county is where we w

so if you look at jefferson county in kentucky, a diverse county, louisville is there. 2018 an 8% absenteeby mail. 294 rejected a smaller number. why advocates haven't gone hard on these laws and gone to court over them because it was 00 votes and typically could you still go to the polls and vote if you were worried. this year 2020 a 4.4% rejection rate in that county. it's 8,000 ballots. now take that into 100 million people in america vote we're looking at millions of rejected ballots disproportionately those of minorities and there's no one cause for this, but there's systemic inequalities at every step of the way. so if you live in a lower income neighborhood your mail service will be poorer. if you live in a lower income county, your postage might not be paid for. only 17 states pay for your postage by slew otherwise it's up to your county if they'll put a stamp on your postage which is another barrier to getting out the mail. i never have stamps and i work for nbc, so you'd think it's a harder barrier when you have less resources. >> indeed and especially jefferson county, that say

>> reporter: in the low-lying neighborhoods around beaumont, jefferson county deputies are neighborhoods around beaumoer an urgent warning for people living in hurricane laura's path. sheriff zena stephens just got back to her own house after being flooded out during tropical storm imelda last september. >> my story is a lot of people's story. and so we understand how fast things can go really bad. > reporter: the civic center is now a staging area for residents who need help getting out, but even with mandatory evacuation orders in place, some residents are refusing to leave. >> if something were to happen to the roof or something, i would want to be here to fix it to the roof or something, i while i could. >> reporter: i mean, but that's pretty dangerous. >> ( sighs ) i know. we've been fortunate so far. we've made it. it's just scary to leave your stuff behind. >> reporter: more than half a more than hale in texas and louisiana are being ordered to evacuate. space is limited, and evacuations are more complicated with covid-19. >> remember, just because a hurricane is coming to texas,

tree damage has been reported in jefferson county as well as the other surrounding counties around this region. i hear from some reports, that we would expect to see even greater tree damage as you go further up north into east texas. other damage reports will be coming in during the course of the day. we do have teams in this region already. whether beat search and rescue teams, law enforcement teams, the national guard. assessment teams, that are covering every city every county every region to make damage assessments but also to go about the process, to determine the safety of everybody who lives in this area. so do want to get one confirmation. they are currently closed. >> in texas that is not true. >> is on the on the louisiana side of the border. we are all of the way through pretty. >> i ten is open. all the way to the border. and by the way and it did have the opportunity to speak with governor of louisiana this morning. he was his typical jovial self and was ready to be offering help to texas. so he is in good spirits. another people of louisiana are dealing with challenges th

here in jefferson county, in beaumont, texas the city is on edge.f hurricane harvey, ryota as well as ike that left so much devastation and flood in and around southeast texas. the preparations for turkey laura are different because it's set against the back grope of a global pandemic. this is complicating people' decisions whether or not to evacuate or shelter-in-place. take a listen to this gentleman and how he's handling his preparations ahead of this hurricane. >> trying to be safe and be prepared for the storm and do whatever is necessary. >> i'm trying to stay covered up. you know, i have medicine if i need some. whatever that nature. and i just like for everybody to be safe out there. social distance and all of that so you won't catch covid-19. >> reporter: we heard from the texas governor greg abbott just because there's a hurricane approaching southeast texas doesn't mean that covid is leaving the state. we know texas is still a hot spot for covid but there's been a downward trend over the past 14 days which is good news but complicating so

that even though the numbers of could he individual 19 have improved, covid-19 has not left jefferson county, has not left orange county, has not left the state of texas. >> reporter: a newly released database starkly showing the deadly toll coronavirus is taking on health care workers documenting more than 900 deaths likely due to covid-19. a disproportionate number of these professionals where people of color, nurses, and those working in facilities with shortages of personal protective equipment. and there is this, the heartbreaking story of father and son physicians dying within six weeks of each other. 89-year-old dr. jorge vierro a retired obstetrician is said to have contracted the virus from his son, dr. carlos vierro. a new message on masks. simple dos and don'ts. face coverings should be well fitted, cover your nose and mouth, cloth masks should have two layers, three when possible. >> my rule of thumb would be if you can see a light through the fabric, it probably isn't doing a very good job protecting you. >> reporter: experts also suggest for the most part people should wear mas

the last possible minute after a period where we saw some encouraging signs with covid-19 and jefferson county the last couple of weeks we saw a real surge we have been designated a red zone by the white house and we're seeing come discouraging signs and we needed to make a decision it was personally and professionally a disappointing decision to have to make it was the right thing to do our priority is keeping our community safe, our fan, our team members and we got to the point with the numbers being what they were that was the only responsible decision >> understood. you're just dealing with a fast changing situation let's talk about what it means for the business, for the workers, your company. i understand you brought back around 80 to 85% of those that had been furloughed. what does the future of these jobs look like into next year?d. we have our horse racing division our casino division and our online business. our casino business has really performed surprisingly well the whole covid pandemic as states have opened up and machines come back online they perform very, very well. i'm very

. >> i have visited the election offices in denver and in jefferson county, as well.president because this is the issue. we have a pandemic, a record number of americans to vote for mail. absentee, mail-in voting. your state at this for quite sometime. >> absentee ballots are good but the stuff of millions and millions of ballots and send them all over the place will grab it and put them in a big pile there, everyone grab it, it's a disgrace. so this is just a way they're trying to steal the election and everybody knows that. because the only way they're going to win is by rigged election. >> i don't think you rigged your election, governor. look. some tom sometimes you laugh at this but this is the president of the united states undermining confidence in democracy. does mail-in voting work in your state? >> absolutely works. we have the integrity, the security. what the president talked about if somebody is illegally filing a ballot that's a felony in colorado. we are very serious about prosecuting voter fraud and there's not been significant voter fraud in our state

here in jefferson county in beaumont, texas, there are mandatory evacuations. the city is on edge because the people here, the residents remember hurricane harvey, they remember rita. they remember ike and they know the devastating and the flooding it can bring to this location, but the preparation for major hurricane laura is completely different because it's set against the backdrop of a worldwide pandemic and just listen to his individual explaining his preparations in advance of this with covid-19. >> trying to be safe and be prepared for the storm and do the necessary things that need to be done. >> i'm trying to stay covered up, you know, i have medicine if i need some, whatever of that nature, and i'd just for everybody to be safe out there. stay to yourselves, social distance and all of that so you don't catch the covid-19. >> reporter: can you imagine how difficult of a decision this is for individuals even though there are mandatory evacuations and families are wondering whether they should evacuate because of the ongoing pandemic. do they want to put

trymaine said, even when we look in louisville, which 50% of the african-american population are in jefferson county000 voters had access to one polling site. so we really have to look at and take this seriously that the republicans are using this as a strategy to suppress the vote because this is about power, not participation. >> trymaine, one of the things about the power of john lewis in that piece saying you can lose it, meaning you can lose your vote, is that we all believe that now. i mean just in my own case, i've always voted by mail for many, many years now. i'm always a last-minute voter by mail. this time, as soon as i get that ballot, i'm sending that ballot in as early as possible, and i'm sure there will be a lot of that kind of energy because we all now know that our vote might not count. >> oh, without question, lawrence. and it varies state by state. there are some states that say, you know what, as long as you have your mail-in ballot postmarked by election day, it's fine. other places are saying, no, we need to receive it by that point. we talk about these slowdowns with the usps

in colorado, where they do all their voting by mail, jefferson county has 500 different styles of ballots. so just to affect one county, the russians would have to forge 500 different styles of ballots, then each ballot has a unique identifying number and a computer bar code that can only be read by the county's commuter system and a security sleeve and a signature. it's absolutely foolproof. it's the safest way to vote. people need to vote. people should try to vote early and by mail if they can for their own health. and for the president, who's supposed to be leading a democracy, to be at war with democracy is a pretty awful thing. >> there has been some significant data collection and studies done on this issue of voter fraud when it comes to mail-in ballots or absentee ballots, those two words being interchangeable, essentially, but i think it's worth pointing out that according to the comprehensive studies of public records, detailing voter fraud and all u.s. elections, between 2000 to 2012, for example, there were just 491 prosecutions for absentee ballot fraud. that tells us how ra

trymaine said, even when we look in louisville, which 50% of the african-american population are in jefferson countyvoters had access to one polling site. so we really have to look at and take this seriously that the republicans are using this as a strategy to suppress the vote because this is about power, not participation. >> trymaine, one of the things about the power of john lewis in that piece saying you can lose it, meaning you can lose your vote, is that we all believe that now. i mean just in my own case, i've always voted by mail for many, many years now. i'm always a last-minute voter by mail. this time, as soon as i get that ballot, i'm sending that ballot in as early as possible, and i'm sure there will be a lot of that kind of energy because we all now know that our vote might not count. >> oh, without question, lawrence. and it varies state by state. there are some states that say, you know what, as long as you have your mail-in ballot postmarked by election day, it's fine. other places are saying, no, we need to receive it by that point. we talk about these slowdowns with the usps, th

you mentioned a galveston, jefferson county, texas, people can take it on their own accord to evacuate. the storm projection and chad will talk more about this, it's more and more west. the good news about marco, which by the way, did pass by new orleans earlier today. it did bring some rain, but not the storm that people feared. marco got people in the storm mindset. in other words, a lot of people have already gone out this weekend, purchased their emergency supplies, purchased their food and things like that. the city went about making sure all of the pumps, all 99 are ready to go. they brought in alternative power sources for them to keep them going if the electricity goes out, cleared all the basins. they're trying to be as prepared as they can. it is not expected they'll get a direct hit here, but they can feel the impact as it could be a cat 3. >> 15 years since katrina. martin savage, thanks very much. >>> let's go to cnn's meteorologist chad myers. where and when do we expect landfall? >> i would say landfall is after midnight, wednesday night/thursday morning. but it will sta

>> well, mandatory evacuations here in jefferson county and beaumont, texas. people recognize the dangers that major hurricane laura poses because they remember harvey and rita and they believe ike and they know from previous lessons that they need to take this storm seriously and they know that this is not the same storm that they went to bed with last night. because it has changed as chad just described and this particular location is so vulnerable to storm surge and localized flash flooding as well, but it's on a different scale. people have never experienced amongst the back drop of a global pandemic so this is really changing things and complicating the evacuation efforts and complicating the decision for the residents located here. even though there's mandatory evacuations, people are still weighing up the options do i shelter in place at home? am i safer there because of covid-19? or do i leave and move to an area where there could be large gatherings of people? that's what people are weighing up right now. i have spoken to individuals who are gathering

it was probably not so great that that was the only place to vote during the primary in jefferson county, kentucky. but we're going to see something different in november, i'm confident. if you look at other states. if you look at north carolina, kentucky, pennsylvania, florida, georgia, et cetera, election officials are working hard to secure enough sites to make sure there are more sites available, even if it's not as many as we might normally see in a presidential election because smaller sites are not appropriate right now because we can't socially distance in them or sites that we've used in the past like senior centers where there are too many people at risk. there are probably going to be fewer sites. but hopefully election officials are going to find ways to have enough of them and have them convenient enough for people to reach. it's a major concern for all of us working on elections including election officials around the country and we're right to be focusing on it. we need to make sure that people feel they can vote safely and get to a polling place conveniently. >> let's hea

and in beaumont, texas, in jefferson county where mandatory evacuations are underway, residents here are on edge, because they know what hurricanes can do. they remember harvey, they remember ike, they remember rita, but this hurricane is different, because it's set against the backdrop of a global pandemic. businesses and residents have been preparing. take a listen to this particular business, who went above and beyond, it's something i've never seen before in hurricane preparations. this is quite amazing. check this out. >> it's two-tiers of tiger dam. we fill all of this with water. and we obviously anchor it down to the concrete. and the goal is to keep the water on this side of the dam, obviously. we've installed a bunch of these and our work has never been tested. so we're hoping we can keep that record up. we're kind of an insurance policy. >> reporter: in essence, they're using water to block water from coming in. pretty incredible. a tiger dam, check it out. we heard from the governor of texas, greg abbott yesterday, saying just because a hurricane is approaching southeast

. >> here in jefferson county in beaumont, texas, the city is on edge if not-so-distant memory for residents here would be hurricane harvey, rita, and ike. they know how much destruction and flooding can be brought to this very susceptible city. but of course, the preparations for hurricane laura are completely different, because they're amongst the backdrop of a global pandemic. just take a listen to what this individual had to do in order to prepare for a hurricane amongst covid-19. >> trying to be safe and be prepared for the storm and do the necessary things that need to be done. i'm trying to stay covered up. you know, i have medicine if i need some, of that nature. and i just like for everybody to be safe out there. stay to yourselves, social distance, and all of that, so you won't catch covid-19. >> reporter: even though there are mandatory evacuations along the southeast coast of texas, covid-19 is complicating people's decisions. do they evacuate or do they shelter in place? we heard from the governor of texas, greg abbott yesterday, stating that just because a hurricane is approach

nonot ononly this country, but also in smalall towns like port arthur, texas, beaumont, and jefferson countyt yet here we are faced with these major storms as we look down the barrel of hurricane laura, andnd they talked about e surges. everyone was sort of you willard on how we deal with this, but about dealing thing you could do was get buses lined up and yet people sit in every other seat, which basically took away from those people that were dealing with transportation n barriers. yet at the same time, that if you something. so they lined up quite a few buses. my wife worked for the port arthur transit. she worked diligently over time, under time, and to get people lined up, give people the information they needed. they had to work well into about 3:00 a a.m., 4:0:00 a.m. i in te morning answeringng phones to gt all thee peoeople at neededd ris situtuated. and they still fell short becacause it wasn't enough transportation because of the situation wherere they had to separate people. amy: and you're largely talking about these areas that are overwhelmingly unities of color. can you talk

minimal disruption in jefferson county, where refineries are located. .ome are in the restart processe has been disruption in the port arthur area, home to the largest u.s. refinery. that is the one people are focused on. it should run normally within a week. what about shipping and offshore oil production? our waterways back to operating waterways back to operating normally? >> ports opened up quickly after the storm. vessel traffic should return. i would say fairly quickly. before the storm hits, there were about 65 takers in the u.s. gulf waiting for it to pass but now that the ports have opened, we should be able to see not much of a backlog. energy reporter there with the latest. let's get you to first word headlines. a storm knocked out power in parts of the south and prompted the north korean leader to warn of impending damage. winds gusting above 130 kilometers per hour. continue insville the capital throughout friday morning. president trump and the postmaster general are being audited to -- ordered by a court to hand over evidence. the judge said the administration must offe

-- probable -- the only place to vote during the primary in jefferson county.u look at other states, north carolina, kentucky, pennsylvania, etc., election officials are working hard to secure enough sites to make sure there are more sites available, because smaller sites are not appropriate right now because we cannot socially distance, or there are sites we have used in the past like senior centers where there are too many people at risk. they were going to be some precinct consolidations, fewer sites -- there are probably going to be some precinct consolidations, fewer sites. it is a major concern for all of us working elections, including election officials from both parties around the part -- around the country. we have to make sure voters feel safe and can get to a voting place conveniently. host: our next caller on the republican line. caller: i've got one question for him. why didn't he come out two days after stacey abrams said all the voting was fraud and tell her about his wonderful system? why would anyone in the right mind want to vote early, witho

rescues to evacuate people from port arthur but now the evacuation order has been lifted for jefferson countywns of beaumont and port arthur, more than 600,000 people between texas and louisiana are without power. that number could grow and folks are probably going to have to wait a while for crews to restore that power safely so they are going to have to rely on hurricane kits for a little while longer, stuart. stuart: i call that good news in the sense that port arthur didn't get near the damage that we saw from lake charles, louisiana. sir, thank you very much for joining us, we will be back to you, thank you. you can't forget the california wild fires, there are more wild fires broke out last night. what's going on susan. susan: 50 additional new fires in the past 24 hours. it's been called effectively suppressed as of wednesday afternoon according to california state government but the fires have destroyed an area so big, as big as delaware which is 1.3 million acres according to the states. firefighters, at least 7 people have died so far for the near 700 fires that have been reported a

. >> there i was in houston county and beaumont and jefferson county.know in beaumon. our their thoughts and prayers e going out there. they are used to these types of storms they have the usual precautions in place. i know we will be able to respond very well. again, our prayers go out to folks there. hopefully this is a fast moving storm and doesn't hang over them like we have seen in the past causing a lot of flood damage but, of course, the storm surge is a big concern. brian: texans their best in times of crises. they are asked to do that again. i'm very confident as you are. pivot to another area of expertise and that's foreign policy. the secretary of state on last night to make sure people know what president trump's foreign policy is and in the middle east it's an example of you who it's working. i understand jared kushner and robert o'brien and maybe the secretary of state will have first historic flight between israel and the uae. here is the secretary of state yesterday from israel. >> primary constitutional function of the national governme

. >> george stern is an elections administrator for jefferson, colorado's fourth largest county. >> everythingrything here is out in the open. >> he's invited the president and cnn to tour the county's mail ballot processing facility. >> there's no massive fraud. our elections are secure as much as they are aaccessible. >> all registered colorado voters automatically receive a ballot in the mail. you can still vote in person. >> everyone knows mail-in ballots are a disaster. >> this week the president sued nevada to test the expansion of mail-in voting tweeting in july, mail-in ballots will lead to massive fraud and a rigged 2020 election. >> we've been doing universal vote by mail in colorado for seven years. that is not the case. >> that's because of a rigorous system of checks and balances. for a mail-in ballot to be counted the envelope must be signed. the judges compare the signature to those stored on finality. >> if the signature doesn't match it's going to be pushed off to the side and investigated by the district attorney's office. >> nine instances of voter fraud out of millions cast

. >> reporter: george stern is an elections administrator for jefferson, colorado's fourth largest county western suburbs of denver. so, everything here is out in the open? >> everything's out in the open. >> reporter: he's invited the president and cnn to tour the county's mail ballot processing facility. his message? >> there's no massive fraud that our elections are secure as much as they are accessible. >> reporter: all registered colorado voters automatically receive a ballot in the mail. you can still vote in person, but an overwhelming majority of ballots, including 99.3% in this year's state primary, have consistently been returned by mail or ballot drop box. >> everyone knows mail-in ballots are a disaster. >> reporter: this week, the president sued nevada to contest the expansion of mail-in voting, tweeting in july, mail-in ballots will lead to massive electoral fraud and a rigged 2020 election. >> we've been doing universal vote by mail in colorado for seven years, and we can say with certainty that that is not the case. >> reporter: that's because of what stern says is a rigor

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two twin sisters with a combined 84 years of experience at abington-jefferson health are working their final shift in montgomery county sleep in, sit by a pool, do fun things. isn't that great? >> kelly: um, is that an old picture? or is that a recent photo? >> ryan: i guess it's a recent photo of mary and bertha. bertha's a labor and delivery nurse. mary helps new babies and moms. >> kelly: they look amazing. if they've been doing a job for 42 years, we can all agree they look incredible. >> ryan: they look incredible. they said, "we started together. we were hired by the same person, and now we're leaving together." their coworkers are gonna miss them, and what an incredible career. and you're right. >> kelly: incredible. >> ryan: they look youthful and ready to take on retirement. >> kelly: i know. i was staring. i was like, "wait a minute. wait, wait." i'm like--now i'm reading the article because i'm hearing what you're saying, but i don't believe it. so now i'm reading, going, "no, wait." that's incredible. good for them. >> ryan: congratulations, mary and bertha. tomorrow on the show, rob lowe. >> kelly: ahh, l

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california rule state of jefferson leaders are involved in a lawsuit demanding fair representation in the state legislature in sacramento off's angeles has 11 senators and 11 counties in northern california have won that's not liberty that's not a balance of representation what is it about the policies that have been passed in sacramento that make you want to have your own state. where do you see the list is where does it start yeah the list is way too long if you're looking at taxation you're looking at i mean just the restrictions on basic things to take care of yourself and to defend yourself what about the policies that have come out of sacramento in the legislature that have to do with climate change the climate changes every season. i mean we live in a forest season part of the state it changes every season to season us we know it's going to be hot june yep going to rain of december they see no connection between climate change and wildfires pointing to regulations that prevent logging as the problem it all comes from restrictions in sacramento i come from a lobbying family and my family logs for generations and so you're out in the woods you take care of the