michael osterholm from the university of minnesota, and columbia university's jeffrey shaman. gentlemen, welcome to "meet the press." dr. osterholm, let me start with you. simple question, are we ready to reopen the economy? >> well, first of all, let me say what do we mean by opening the economy, that's really unclear. we can't stay locked down for 18 months, but at the same time, when you have cases increasing, deaths increasing, health care without adequate protective equipment and we're suddenly going back to what once was our normal lives, that's not a safe place to be. we can't do that and not expect to see a major increase in cases. >> jeffrey shaman, have we squandered the eight weeks in lockdown in that are we either rushing the reopening in that we don't have the testing and tracing program in place yet or have we just squandered the eight weeks? >> we have not used the eight weeks as well as we could have, unfortunately. it would have been benefitted enormously from consistent messaging and a concerted, consolidated plan of attack for actually aggressively and proac

jeffrey shaman, professor of environmental health sciences at columbia university school of public health he's the lead of the research team that did this modeling. dr. shaman, i appreciate you making time to be here tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> so i am a lay observer of these things, and i read your study. i got tripped up by the math, but i've read the reporting on it as well. let me just ask you first if i've explained anything wrong or if i've misunderstood anything what you and your colleagues have found. >> i think you summarized it very well. i think the important thing we're trying to do here is not look retrospectively and look at what might have been, but to use that information to inform how we go forward and how we have to be very vigilant with this virus. we're not done with this pandemic by any stretch. most of the country has not been exposed to it, has not been infected. and it's really vital that we actively seek it out in our communities, that we monitor what is happening with the transmission of the virus in communities as we loose

michael osterholm from the university of minnesota, and columbia university's jeffrey shaman. gentlemen, welcome to "meet the press." dr. osterholm, let me start with you. simple question, are we ready to reopen the economy? >> well, first of all, let me say that when we say what we mean by opening the economy, that's really unclear. we can't stay locked down for 18 months, but at the same time, when you have cases increasing, deaths increasing, health care workers without adequate protective equipment, and we're suddenly going back to what once was our normal lives, that's not a safe place to be. we can't do that and not expect to see a major increase in cases. >> jeffrey shaman, have we squandered the eight weeks in lockdown in that are we either rushing the reopening in that we don't have the testing and tracing program in place yet, or have we just squandered the eight weeks? >> we have not used the eight weeks as well as we could have, unfortunately. it would have been benefitted enormously from consistent messaging and a concerted, consolidated plan of attack for actuall

jeffrey shaman is an epidemiologist at columbia university's mallman school of public health.ot of people right now who have the antibodies on the testing are walking around mainking they're superman or superwoman and, hey, they're safe. what would you say to them? >> we have to be a little more careful, unfortunately. it's not clear we're one and done. we may be subject to repeat infections. >> reporter: that leaves patients like aida vasquez in new york wondering if they can get back to normal. she's recovering from covid-19 and tested positive for antibodies. >> i was told that i cannot get orck again for i don't know how long, but that's a good sign that i'm on my road to recovery. >> reporter: professor shaman has reason to be skeptical about how long immunity lasts. he found that people can get reinfected within months with other members of the coronavirus family, ones that include the common cold. norah. >> o'donnell: all right, dr. lapook, thank you. n old leaders held an online summit today pledging billions to develop a coronavirus vaccine. notably absent from the me

jeffrey sham shaman, professor of environmental health services. dr.appreciate you making time to be here tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> so i am a lay observer of these things and i read your study and got tripped up by the math, but i've read the reporting on it, as well. let me ask you first if i've explained anything wrong or misunderstood anything about what you and your colleagues have found. >> i think you summarized it very well and i think the important thing that we're really trying to do here is not just look red tr to spectively use the information how we go forward and have to be vehicle lant with this virus. it's really vital we actively seek it out in our communities, that we monitor what is happening with the transmission of the virus in communities as we loosen restrictions and reopen the economy further and further to make sure we don't have flairups and if we identify growth in cases, we have to clamp down quickly and respond more quickly because as you said, if you get the virus when the outbreak

he'll have jeffrey shaman, the school of public health. be sure to tune in to "meet the press" right after this newscast. stay right here until then. and as you know every sunday coming up in about 30 minutes from now we will talk to our nbc bay area political analyst larry gerston for our weekly segment. a look at some of california's growing impatience with the governor's plan to reopen the state. >>> well, as you likely know by now the pandemic has put the 2020 tokyo olympics on hold. and now we're finding out if the games have to be pushed back again past 2021. there is no plan b. back in march the virus forced japan and the international olympic committee to delay the games until summer 2021. right now there's no sign of a vaccine. so here is the new plan. >> whe same date, the same scheduling. we're doing all of that, and we're proceeding on the basis there is no plan "b" deferring the games again. >> all right. right now japanese leaders and the ioc are continuing to prep for next july. be sure to watch the summer the most at-risk d

jeffrey shaman, thanks so much. >> thank you for having me. >>> warmer weather leading to situations where the coronavirus could have spread. like people crowding around a creek in colorado. i'm going to ask colorado governor jared polis about that and what he's doing to keep coloradans safe over the holiday weekend. calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424. this virus is testing all of us. and it's testing the people on the front lines of this fight most of all. so abbott is getting new tests into their hands, delivering the critical results they need. and until this fight is over, we...will...never...quit. because they never quit. >>> colorado has been gradually reopening its economy since late april. the state's safer at home campaign established guidelines for limited reopening of retail bus

jeffrey shaman. dr. shaman, did the fda make the right call today by approving the emergency use of are remdes? >> i think they did. as elizabeth said, it's a cause for cautious optimism. it won't be the big change that allows us to essentially emerge from our homes and get back to a normal economy. but it is something that will not only perhaps improve the treatment and shorten the duration of illness for people who are critically ill, but it will provide pathways for us to develop better therapeutics. >> even if it's not a total cure by any means, how will it change the game let's say for governors who are trying to reopen parts of their states and the economy? >> i don't think this is something that can actually change that. i think it's a real question of whether or not this is the right time to actually be reopening the economy. a lot of these governors, as you pointed out on your program, haven't yet seen in their states the 14-day decline in cases that the white house wanted to mandate prior to re

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professor jeffrey shaman is the lead author from columbia university and elaborated further. >> i don't think it's inevitable everyone will get infected. if we were to hold this virus in check and reduce it analogously in the united states so instead of 20,000 new cases each day we only had 200 each day, we would be in a similar position where we probably could hold this thing in check a considerable amount of time while giving ourselves an opportunity to develop therapeutics and an effective vaccine. >> woodruff: so, miles, how useful is the information the doctor is saying? >> i think there's plenty of blame to go around, i think the important point is we settle into the idea it's a binary, either we're shut down, at home, not going out or we'ret at work. there's a lot in between we can think about, including more usage of masks, much more testing and contact tracing. if you get to a point where there is a small outbreak, you can identify it much more quickly and kind of put a ring around it and stop i from becoming that wildfire type growth that we see with an exponential pandemic. s