david: jeh johnson, thank you so much for being with us. bloomberg. ♪ david: this is "balance of power" on bloomberg television. i am david westin. after years of complaining about high costs and little bigsparency, a group of banks and brokerage houses are starting their own stock exchange. here to take us through it is jason kelly. thanks for being here. this sounds revolutionary. init sounds like a big deal, part because of the people getting together to do this. banks, bank of america, charles schwab, merrill lynch. names less well known to the public but well-known to people on wall street. automated, bigy market makers. david: you said the magic word, automated. in days gone by, you had to have a physical exchange. now, you do not need all of that. jason: it is a totally different world. what is notable about this is in the era of big publicly traded exchanges, this will be owned by the members. that is going back to the old days when the members owned the stock exchange. having these people with their own skin in the game being the o

. >> brennan: we will talk with house leader kevin mccarthy why it's not so easy and jeh johnson on what constitutes a national emergency. and the president's ties to russia. as the u.s. begins to withdraw troops from syria. we ask mike pompeo about the conflicting statements. >> it's not clear. brennan: we will talk with the latest candidate to enter the 2020 presidential campaign. former san tone yo mayor, julian castro. and analysis on all the news d oace the nation." >> brennan: good morning, welcome to "face the nation." 's 23 of the partial government shut down. now the longest in history. and there is no end in site. some 800,000 federal workers did not get paid on friday. and president trump "has no idea if he can get a deal with nancy pelosi." we spoke wit>> brennan: mr. sece in a shut down. i know a number of employees are not getting paid including a quarter of u.s. employees in foreign country. what are you telling staff about when they can expect a paycheck. >> it's unfortunate we're in the shut down. i wish we were not too. i hope it's resolved quickly. i told our teams. th

jeh johnson, the former homeland security secretary, he's back along with the panel, phillip, susan and michelle. jeh, the democrats are trying to give republicans and the president a number of other bills that would fund the rest of the government except for homeland security. >> right. so i've kind of seen that movie before. four years ago dhs was in the very same position where it was out there by itself and the rest of the funded. we had a cr that got us through four years ago. i think whatever is the most con do you s ducive situation for brokering a deal and getting the workers paid tomorrow is the best deal. the inspiration for me was, as susan mentioned, a woman who was an administrative assistant for the federal air martials who had stage 4 cancer, and she didn't know how she was going to make her co-pays because we had to furlough her. as we said earlier, the most basic obligation of the president who is the ceo of the business and the congress should be to keep the government open on behalf of the people and pay the workers. >> is it worth it, then, to shut even partially dow

secretary jeh johnson at homeland security then wrote memos that i brought with me tonight. fascinating reads. we were doing the polling in the midst of that and even then, americans agree they want these children by large be returned safely to their home countries. mexico has offered asylum and visas, safe passage to these northern triangle family units and unaccompanied children were coming here. they can have their claims of your process while they are in mexico. >> laura: i want to get your reaction, kellyanne, to a debate over how many terrorists are apprehended at the border. the white house has thrown around a number of about 4,000 but u.s. customs and border protection says they encountered six immigrants with terror ties on the border with mexico in the first half of the fiscal year 2018. we don't know about the second half. i personally think one terrorist is a problem. we know it one terrorist can do when you look at what happened in paris. a few in each plane on 9/11. you know what they do, they take that and say you're trying to scare the people and it's a much

former homeland security secretary jeh johnson joins me. >> i'm 45 years old and i shouldn't have ton my belongings to pay for medication when i do have a job. i'm just not able to do that job. your enamel is very precious. acidic foods can wear away your enamel. your tooth is going to look yellower, more dull. i recommend pronamel because it helps protect and strengthen your enamel. it's pro enamel. it's the positive thing. ♪ >>> president trump is scheduled to land in texas early this afternoon. he's bringing with him the head of the army corps of engineers who would be in charge of construction if the president goes ahead with his threat think declare a national emergency and use pentagon money to build that wall. joining me now is jeh johnson, former homeland security secretary under president obama, also former general counsel at the department of defense. so you know the law and you know homeland and border security as well as anyone. mr. secretary, let's talk about what the president is doing in mccowan, texas? what do you think he should do when he goes to the border today? >

security committee bennie thompson gathered former da sets -- dhs formerls including homeland security jeh johnson to discuss the impact of the government shutdown on the agency and its employees. mr. johnson joined a bipartisan group of former homeland security secretary's to offer a letter to president trump and congress calling for full funding for the department. this is one hour and 50 minutes. [applause] . >> thank you very much. good morning. i em of that same religion you have to talk back. since the trump shutdown has been going on for over a month remember this is his shutdown because on camera he said directly to the american people he would take pride in shutting down the government. 800,000 of the federal employees still have no paychecks since last year they will miss anotr

he is the former secretary of homeland security, jeh johnson, who has some comments he would like to offer before our panelists begin. secretary johnson. [ applause ] >> good morning. >> good morning. >> chairman thompson, thank you for the opportunity to be here. i want to acknowledge my former colleagues and friends who are on the panel. and i speak to you this morning not as secretary of homeland security and not as a democrat. i speak to you as a concerned private citizen and the father of a member of the united states coast guard. we are in the midst of a security crisis. and it is one of our own making, frankly. i used to say when i was the leader of homeland security that our most valuable security resource are our own people. the very people we depend upon to protect us are the people we are now inflicting a financial insecurity. the very people we depend on for our security are made to suffer by this shutdown, by inflicting stress, hardship, anxiety and anger into their personal lives and the lives of our family. a breaking point may come tomorrow when they miss a paycheck fo

connell: okay, that is former homeland security secretary jeh johnson warning of long-term consequencesent shut down doesn't end. the fbi agents with really similar view. a new report outlining how detrimental the shutdown is to investigations, they say, it has eliminated the ability to operate in some cases. tom o'connor is with us from the fbi agents association. he is the president of that group. sir, your group came out with a report, rightfully so getting a lot of tanks. it points out there could be real issues here. you have a lot of agents, fbi officials, some 13,000 working without pay, but bigger issue is funding for some of your operations. tell us what you're worried about? >> thanks for having me. our concern, the budget in place on the 10th or 21st of december is same pot of money that it is today. we're 34 days beyond that. the fbi has thousands of investigations that are taking place across the country, around the world. and those investigations take funds to operate. there are tools that agents use to make these investigations work. connell: right. >> they cost money and

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former trump white house chief of staff, john kelly, michael chertoff and janet napolitano and jeh johnson. investigate counterterrorism and the workers should not have to re the charitable generosity of others for assistance in feeding their families and paying their bills. the bills are partisan. the dpgop-backed be bill calls r funding for a border wall. the democratic senate bill would reopen the government for three weeks but would not inclu funding for a wall. >>> later this morning, tsa workers at reagan national airport will express their frustrations to tim kaine and mark warner. air traffic controllers have been forced to work without pay an many have taken to calling out sick. 't been enough screeners on the job. that has led to long lines and delays. >>> the community outreach to help furloughed federal workers is growing. students from west springfield high school held a potluck dinner for anybodyacted by the shutdown. ther din was arranged by members of the conservative club and young democrats. student organizers say it's a bipartisan efforlp to because it impacts the whole

formerrump white house chief of staff john kelly, tom ridge, michael chertoff, janet napolitano and jeh johnson. the letter says, quote, the department riskspl talented p leaving their posts to pursue employment. this letter was releasedefore tomorrow's two big votes in the senate that we'll be following. those bills falling along party lines. the gop plan would allow illegal immigrants to stay in the rye try for three morecave ,s, e wall funding has to be included in that bill. now, the democratic senate bill would re-open the government for three weeks, but it would notdi include f for a wall. >> on day 33, theres still zero dollars for new border moo urs. >> open up the government and then let's talk. >> both bills in the senate are expected to f tomorrow afternoon. of course we'll be covering it. >>> and earlier today, hou speaker nancy pelosi sent a letter to president trump saying that he is not allowed to give his state of the union address on theouse floor next week. where and when he could give that speech, that's anybody's guess tonight. jim? >> all right. leon, thank you. well, kids

former secretary-general's and the homeland security -- jeh johnson of homeland security declared election security vital. we made available the talent in dhs to secretaries of state all of the country to help identify vulnerabilities. we have worked with the majority of those states after the 2016 elections where we saw potential meddling by russians, primarily, but also rogue nations. , youre said to them systems of elections need to be fortified. we will help you. we created a task force on the democratic side because we couldn't get republicans at the time to join us. series of with a recommendations. many of those recommendations talk about providing moneys to required acquire equipment but also the validation of the results was something we were concerned about because the internet, as you know, was a prime culprit in many of the shenanigans potentially that could be used. in 2018, however, i think because people knew we were watching that many of those things did not occur. many of those things didn't occur, but we look at it that we can't compromise the security of our method of el

we hear from former homeland security security jeh johnson as well as other officials. bennie thompson of mississippi chairs the homeland security committee.

he is jeh johnson, secretary johnson, welcome back. >> you used to be a neighborhood, we have a nice between us at the bureau and the homeland security -- >> the parking lot at homeland security is empty. it is closed for business. >> all right, you have been through shut downs, you have been through fights about it, you're an observer and what do you say. >> as a concerned member of the public, what i see is an emerging security crisis. we're taking the people that we depend on. those that screen for explosives, guns, luggage, our coast guard, those on the high seas, they are introducing into their personal lives stress, anxiety, and anger because this pay period, this week, will be missed. and i know this workforce. their families are worried about when and if they will be paid in the future. it's not the work force you want to mess around with. the anxiety they feel now will only get worse. we hear reports about tsa officers staying home, phoning it it in, and that will get worse before it gets better as long as we're telling these people that you must work but we're not going to

we talked to jeh johnson if that's a good idea.nded for something domestically concerning our southern border. when i used to tell young lawyers of the department of defense is if we misuse and stretches beyond its intended interpretation, congress can take it away from you when you really need it. david: welcome senator joe manchin from west virginia. he is a member of the appropriations and intelligence committees. it's good to have you here. let's go to what i talked jeh johnson about yesterday. the declaration of national emergency. could congress take away the power? joe: that's a valid point he makes. you can only cry wolf so many times. they will look at that very strongly. it will be fought out in court. right now, we've got a hundred thousand people who will be getting a paycheck. we have hundreds of thousands of children who won't be getting food. this is unbelievable that we are going down this path because we've become to an impasse. the best way forward, i would tell everybody listening, is let's have a vote. let us vo

we will speak to jeh johnson about the border wall situation. s bloomberg. ♪ guy: live from london, i am guy johnson. vonnie: from new york, i am vonnie quinn. this is the european close on bloomberg. shares are flat on the day as the company announced its biggest ever acquisition aimed at building out its cancer business. kailey leinz is here with more. >> they are buying it for $8 billion. it is part of the shift from cancer away from diabetes. right now, cancer makes up 17% of their business. they are working on building out their portfolio. analysts say it is a strategic move. they are to have two cancer drugs approved on the market. analysts are saying these drugs could have about $200 million in revenue this year and could grow to $1.14 billion by 2023. our in-house analysts are even more optimistic. they say they could have about $2 billion in sales by 2023. to get these drugs, eli lilly , aboutpay a high premium $72 over the average share price, 68% higher than where they closed on friday. it is a high premium. analysts feel that is a jus

. >> for a reasonable perspective on this, i want to welcome jeh johnson. he's the director of homeland security under president obama. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me on, brianna. >> you're one of only six people to hold the job of security. what do you think? >> let me begin by saying this, and there is a big picture aspect that the american people should really be focused on. to the extent there is a security crisis on our southern border, it is, frankly, self-inflicted. because the very people we depend upon to secure our land, sea and air borders are the people we are requiring to work without pay right now, putting their families and themselves under all kinds of stress and anxiety about how they're going to make ends meet, because many of them do live paycheck to paycheck. they're part of homeland security and i used to lead that organization. so the longer the shutdown goes on, i'm concerned we'll reach a breaking point. we're hearing reports that tsa officers are calling in sick. if these people miss a paycheck in my judgmen

i think jeh johnson, the former department of homeland security cabinet secretary said one of the riskse have here is people won't trust the president when he says there is national emergencies in the future when there is a national emergency. these are powers to be used during wartime. will congress go back and try to restrict this and other presidents won't have it in this future. >> that might be a fight he wants to have in the future to kick this shutdown can down the road because this will hurt soon. >> thank you for that perspective. >>> meanwhile, a lot happening overseas. turkey's president is slamming john bolton over these comments he made about how long u.s. troops should stay in syria. we have all those breaking details for you next. in the time it takes to brew a cup... here's the story of green mountain coffee roasters costa rica paraÍso. first, we go to san marcos, costa rica. and meet sergio. that's his daughter, maria. sergio's coffee tastes spectacular. because costa rica's land is spectacular. so we support farmers like sergio. who use natural compost. made from coffe

jeh johnson:"i fear that the damage already done to our security will be months if not years as a result." (ken) back here at home, the government shutdown is not only affecting federal workers but it's also starting to affect low income families. (grant) kron 4's gayle ong joins us live in san francisco with the concerns from people relying on food stamps.gayle? local food banks have done their part delivering bags of food to furloughed government workers but as long as this shutdown is happening, tens of thousands of bay area residents who rely food stamps may soon feel the affect.. san francisco resident bill johnston is not a furloughed federal employee,johnston is a part time worker, looking for full time work.he receives snap benefits..and is concerned about being cut off. snap is a federal program that provides food assistance to ten

. >> thanks to you, jeh johnson. >> coming up, a teen involved in a encounter with a native american elder responds to outrage over this viral video. why he says it doesn't tell the whole story. and saying, "really?" so capital one is building something completely new. capital one cafes. inviting places with people here to help you, not sell you. and savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums. because that's how it should be. you can open one from right here or anywhere in 5 minutes. seriously, 5 minutes... this is banking reimagined. what's in your wallet? >>> new tonight, we are now hearing from the teenager in this viral video. the teenager says there's a lot more to this story than what we're seeing in the clips. sara sidener has more. >> that's right. we received three pages of comments from this young man. his family sent it out. obviously with these viral videos, there's a lot more to them. there's always a story that went along with them that happened before and after something like this happens and we have viewed video that gives a bigger picture of what happened

tom ridge, michael chertoff, janet napolitano and jeh johnson. the letter says dhs employees protectpuhe traveling ic, investigate and counterterrorism and goes on to say that those workers should not have to rely on the charitable generosity of others for assistance in feeding families a paying their bills. today's bills are partisan. aye bi calls for undocumented immigrants to st in the country for three more years and funding for a border wall. the democratic senate bill would reopen the government for three weeks but would not include funding for the wall. >>> later this mornin tsa workers at reagan national airport willss expre frustrations to senato mark warner and tim kaine. tsa and a traffic controllers without pay and many have taken to calling out sick. as a result, some airports have had to close security checkpoints because there haven't been enough tsa screeners on the b. that has led to long lines and delays. >>> the community outreach to help furloughed federal workers in the area is growing. students at west springfield high schoo

henry jeh johnson of ithaca, new york, described the president as "a gentlemen, straight and tall, modest, with fleeting features, who looked for men determined." johnson noted that as great as the crowd was of gentle and noblemen, those privileges were granted to me without molestation or insult. democratic newspapers were incensed, including one in the state of maine. what a hideous travesty this is, what an abject and shameful troubling and shocking doctrine of negro equality. what a terrible humiliation. and what a shameless boast at a time when the nation is undergoing the horrors of civil war engendered by the same insane craving for negro equality forbidden by the decrees of the almighty. in indiana, a democratic editor tut-tutted. there could be no possible objection to mr. lincoln, of course, as a private individual, in associating with negroes. but, when, as the representative of a great nation, he chooses to inaugurate a reign of social equality between the white and black races, democrats have the right to enter their emphatic protest. another indiana sneered. "four niggers we

when he was the chief i made several trip to the southwest border with mark and then secretary jeh johnson. mark knows the problems on the boarborder. david: what do you want to hear from the president tonight? >> you know, he doesn't have a lot of time but there's a couple of things i would like to see him do. share the data with the american people, the data that nancy pelosi and chuck schumer refuse to hear from the secretary of homeland security when she tried to give them a report on the border, they refused to listen. go around nancy and chuck and tell the american people what's going on at the border, talk about the criminals coming across, the gang members, the drugs, the human trafficking victims, talk about the children and the families, a humanitarian crisis. tell the american people and's going on and show them there's a humanitarian and national security crisis on the border. he needs to talk about the wall. share the data. wherever they built the wall it has worked. the democrats say wall is ine ineffective. wrong. the historical data is showing it's 100% effective. that's wh

and former homeland security secretary, jeh johnson, says that is putting the nation at risk. >> the in washington, driving along nebraska avenue, past my old headquarters at dhs. wednesday at 4:00. wednesday at 4:00. and what was shocking to me was the parking lot was empty. nobody was -- almost nobody was home at the headquarters of homeland security, which includes our nation's cyber security. so we have to put these people back to work. i fear our guard is being let down right now, as long as our leaders fail to compromise to put people back to work, to protect us. >> that brings us to your weekend presidential brief, a segment we bring you every sunday night, highlighting some of the most pressing national security information the president will need when he wakes up tomorrow. joining us now, national security council adviser and cnn national security analyst, sam bennagrad. so much is at stake. what should the president be thinking about right now? >> the president should do something that is anathema to him, and that is thinking about the long-term impact of this shutdown. the

it also, just a footnote, was the same day that jeh johnson and i put out our public statement about the russian meddling, which got completely lost because of all the other news. >> yeah. what a day, director, huh? >> yes. >> thank you, sir. always a pleasure. >> thanks, don. >> i hope you feel better. i can tell a little cold there. >>> today's indictment charges roger stone with lying to the house intelligence committee. who better to speak to than a member of that committee? congressman eric swalwell is next. to severe ulcerative colitis. but i realized something was missing... me. the thought of my symptoms returning was keeping me from being there for the people and things i love most. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira can help get, and keep, uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts so you could experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have bloo

everyone here's what's happening at this hour former department of homeland security secretary jeh johnsonppearing at a panel discussion on how the government shutdown is affecting security personnel, he says the country is in in in the midst of a security crisis. >> the people we depend upon to protect us are the people we are now inflicting a financial insecurity, the very people we depend on for our security are made to suffer by this shutdown. >> venezuela's defense minister professor loyalty to president maduro saying the military will never accept a leader outside the law and several several jens professed loyalty to maduro. 29 million americans are hiding a bang or credit card account from their spouse or partner that is one out of every five people in a relationship and 3% say they used to hide such an account but no longer do that's the news update this hour scott, back to you. >> sue, thank you. unusual activity with pete najarian is next he's tracking bullish moves in a bullish market up 20% in a month. first the s&p sector check tech is leading the way today. we talked how stro

it also, just a footnote, was the same day that jeh johnson put our our public statement about the russianeddling, which got completely lost because of all the other news. >> yeah. what a day, director, huh? >> yes. >> thank you, sir. always a pleasure. >> thanks, don. >> i hope you feel better. i can tell a little cold there. >>> today's indictment charges roger stone with lying to the house intelligence committee. who better to speak to than a member of that committee? congressman eric swalwell is next. what do you have there? p3 it's meat, cheese and nuts. i keep my protein interesting. oh yea, me too. i have cheese and uh these herbs. p3 snacks. the more interesting way to get your protein. i'm not really a, i thought wall street guy.ns. what's the hesitation? eh, it just feels too complicated, you know? well sure, at first, but jj can help you with that. jj, will you break it down for this gentleman? hey, ian. you know, at td ameritrade, we can walk you through your options trades step by step until you're comfortable. i could be up for that. that's taking options trading from wall st

passion shutdown has been going on for thirty four days now former homeland security secretary jeh johnson who during the obama administration says it's putting severe strain on security operations we are in the midst of a security crisis and it is one of our own making frankly. i used to say when i was the leader of homeland security that our most valuable security resource our own people the very people we depend upon to protect us or the people we are now inflicting a financial insecurity the very people we depend on for our security are made to suffer by this shutdown by inflicting stress hardship anxiety and anger into their personal lives and the lives of our family a breaking point may come tomorrow when they miss a paycheck for the second time this year. around eight hundred thousand federal workers are about to miss out on a second monthly paycheck many have been tending to charities and donations to survive has more from washington. more than a month into the partial government shutdown and the costs of daily life have become a struggle missouri hall is a federal probation office

defending their election infrastructure and it was really pushed back on as you will have heard from jeh johnson who talked about this publicly by the states in that context. there's a sort of relationship piece there that you have to work through if you're trying to be effective in addressing whatever the crisis you perceive. another thing that i saw was actually, it was rare but would happen in the context of foreign affairs. thinking about one of the declarations national emergency that relate to a sanctions program is in venezuela and the fact that we had declared a national emergency as the basis for the sanctions was something that was used by the venezuelan government to say this is ridiculous, this is sort of america overreacting and ov overreaching, this type of thing. i also think there's just a question of legitimacy as well. i think that's part of one of the reasons i categorized the way i did to say sometimes things you don't think of as national emergencies or categorize as national emergencies and sometimes things you do think of as national emergencies are not. i think in many re

formerls including homeland security jeh johnson to discuss the impact of the government shutdown on the agency and its employees. mr. johnson joined a bipartisan group of former homeland security secretary's to offer a letter to president trump and congress calling for full funding for the department. this is one hour and 50 minutes. [applause] . >> thank you very much. good morning. i em of that same religion you have to talk back. since the trump shutdown has been going on for over a month remember this is his shutdown because on camera he said directly to the american people he would take pride in shutting down the government. 800,000 of the federal employees still have no paychecks since last year they will miss another paycheck tomorrow almost all of the front-line workers at dhs are working with no pay. with tens of thousands of tsa transportation security offices coast guard and border patrol secret service officers democrats in the house do the work to fully fund the government. yesterday we voted again to reopen the department of homeland security to undermine the departmen

in 2014, former secretary jeh johnson directed a department-wide comprehensive security strategy to unify efforts across dhs components and commissioned three task forces. jtf investigations and jtf east and west. east and west are geographically focused on the u.s. southern land and maritime borders and approaches and jtfi is responsible for enhancing criminal investigations. to accomplish this, jtfi has a dhs wide nomination selection process for homeland criminal organization targets which are the top transnational criminal networks impacting homeland security and then coordinates dozens of investigations and operations through national case management. i.c.e. is the executive agent of jtfi which consists of over 70 interagency investigators, officers and analysts. as the largest investigative component within dhs, hsi conducts multifaceteded international law enforcement operations and investigations to combat tco and prevent terrorist activities. the prime tco that threaten our border are mexico drug cartels and over the last decade the united states working with mexican counterparts

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>> well, in 2014 when we saw the first family surge, then secretary of homeland security, jeh johnson, was able to detain families together through an immigration proceeding and start removing them once we saw the stark trend. that created a huge deterrent. immediately the numbers dropped of family units crossing. in 2015, a district court in california ruled that accompanied children, even if they have a parent with them, could not be kept in federal custody more than 20 days. that's not long enough for an immigration proceeding with due process, which is our commitment. so as a result, we have seen family unit numbers climb really unabated but for the inauguration of president trump in january '17. but as soon as the migrants and smugglers realized the laws hadn't fundamentally changed, we saw the family start to increase again to this level of 30,000 last month. >> what additional tools does cvp need to be able to effectively secure the border? >> so we have a border security improvement plan that we submitted to congress. we're in the process of updating that. border wall system i