without anything further, jermaine jones. jermaine, here is your chance. live on t.v. here we go bayview, jermaine, here we go. >> jermaine, it shows that you are not muted, but something isn't working. >> director henderson took all his time. [ laughter ] >> i was installing until he can get his sound together. he is trying to get it out there. can you guys see him? >> yes. we just can't hear him. [ indiscernible ] you might need to call in. >> that is what he is saying. he just asked if he can call in. >> listen in from your phone, but speak from your computer. >> i presume he can hear us. >> he can hear us. >> sergeant youngblood, can you provide him the information, please? >> yes. >> jermaine, called the number (415)655-0001. let me know when you are ready for the access code. >> all because paul stole your time. >> this is a dramatic pause because this is supposed to be so excellent during work history month. this is building the anticipation. what you guys are about to hear, no pressure, jermaine, is about to be brilliant. this is about to bring it. this will tr

let's bring in a new voice into this conversation, terrell jermaine star, both a senior reporter for the room. terrell, it's good to have you with us. you're on the ground there in kyiv. let's just start with what you are seeing. describe for us what is behind you. >> okay, right now. i just want people to see the effects of this. this is a few minutes from where. live we are not clear about exactly would happen, but this building was hit. we don't know, we're still trying to figure out what happened. right now we just want to show you that this building was definitely [inaudible] so if you look up, i want to see if i could get up. here these are where people were in these buildings when it was hit. so you have these people here who are cleaning out their apartment. and so we don't know the number of fatalities. we don't know the number of people injured. but this building was definitely hit hard. >> i want to drawn a little bit of your experience living in kyiv right now. and from here in vantage point, but that's a scholar and a reporter on this, there has been an interesting dynam

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terrell jermaine, host of the black diplomat spot cast, a nonresident senior fellow at the atlantic council eurasia center joining me now from kyiv. terrell, it's good to talk to you. once again, we spoke about 24 hours ago or so at this time. and you had a pretty troubling night. hearing in a distance, bombing and shelling, how was your evening last night? >> much worse. much worse. if it wasn't for the ukrainian military, we would all be dead. we are experiencing heavy fire like we did experience before. unfortunately, my heart was quiet. we don't know who is safe and who is not. we are under a curfew. martial law and we're told to stay inside because there are several tools here. and we are looking on the ground from our windows to see who is who. yes, there is been a great deal of shelling. i've been interviewing -- i interviewed a woman yesterday whose home was destroyed by a russian missile. i'm writing a story shortly. this is hell. there are no other words to describe it other than that. >> what have you been hearing, terrell? what are you seeing, that you can describe for us? >> th

joining us live from kyiv is terrel jermaine starr. he's the founder and host of the black diplomats broadcast and senior council at the atlanta eurasia center. terrell, the invasion by most accounts have begun the way some people expected do to. diplomacy is gearing down, meetingsri cancelled. sanctions are beefing up, tell us how you see this unfolding? >> well, first of all, thanks for having me on the show. with regards to the official -- quote-unquote official recognition of independent of the donbas region thatt was fairly predictable. putin had to go back to his people with something. diplomacy was never an option. and putin does not recognize the sovereigncy of ukraine. he never has. in fact, russia since 1991 has never really psychologically embraced ukraine as a country of independence and people of their own individual agency. in regards to another thing about the word "invasion," the invasion started back in 2014. and people here mainly have one main question which is what is biden's red line? putin has made his red line wi

he had the british only really had one plan, which was called the jermaine plan the invented by lord george germain the american secretary. which was to bring sir william howe coming up from new york up the hudson river to meet sir. john burgoyne who was coming down from canada to to get to albany to meet at albany and thereby use the hudson control of the hudson river to split the new england colonies off from the rest of the 13 colonies. that was the that was the plan but unfortunately in 1777 sir william, unfortunately as far as i'm concerned at least sorry, i forgot for a moment. i was speaking to an american audience you might think of it's slightly differently, but nonetheless. what happened was sir? william howe broke off and went east and captured philadelphia. which of course was the enemy capital as far as he was concerned and thereby left burgoyne stranded to the point that he was then. course forced to surrender at saratoga in october 1777 and at which point the the french got into the war in 1778 the french got to remember about the french. they're always there when they

he's been vigilant and so have the rest of the ukrainian people. >> terrell jermaine starr, thank yourk being with us, and andre, to you, i want to say to you, we wish you the best of health, the best of safety, we're thinking about you, we're thinking about your family. >> they're thinking about your family and they're saying that. >> thank you so much. >> all right. >> thank you. >> remarkable right now, stories across ukraine of people taking to the streets to defend themselves under attack from a russian army of nearly 200,000 at this point. so we have some new video we're going to show you in a moment of the aftermath of a battle in the southern part of ukraine. we have been talking about this, this is where ukrainian forces successfully pushed the russians back, we'll take you there next. (vo) what makes my heart beat? having everything i want in the place i love. jamaica. heartbeat of the world. let's go! i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! (sighs wearily) here i'll take that! (excited yell) woo-h

with that i want to bring in turmoil jermaine starr, senior fellow at -- who has been reporting from ground in kyiv. terrell, thank you so much for joining us, glad to see you and see that you are safe, i know that you spoke with my colleague last night and as you spoke to him he were kind of out and about industry. now we find you in your apartment this morning. how are things going there? >> i'm doing fine, thank you. yes, i spent a lot of time in the street, but yes, one of the main things that i have seen throughout the day, are men going to volunteer to join, volunteer units to fight the russians, there have been overwhelming amount of people doing that. walking down the street, you see men with automatic rifles dressed in jeans and tennis shoes and jump suits going -- walking about industry in a regular way. this is a very sharp contrast to how the culture of the city was operating just a few days ago. >> you actually said this in a tweet and i want to read it for folks, because it speaks to what people are doing their in ukraine, how they are in abandoning whatever responsibil

. >> journalists terrell jermaine starr there, little bit earlier this evening. for your putting there in kyiv. coming up, china refuses to step in to help prevent russia's takeover of the ukraine. and is even putting some of the blame on the united states. how far can she jinping go before hurting the two countries street relations? we'll be right back. relations we'll be right back. edition smart bed. plus, 0% interest for 48 months on all smart beds. ends monday. welcome back. as russia continues to invade ukraine, china finds itself in a complicated position. a key position. so far, the chinese government has not been able to decide what's its side is on russia, and vladimir putin. in the last few days, they've announced that they will begin to begin financing to russian -- they have been -- based on the question, where does china stand? important, author of -- and the coming collapse of china. gordon, thanks for being here. what is driving the wins of china's position when it comes to what is happening today with russia and what it is doing? >> china support

army general, andrea mitchell, and from kyiv, terrell jermaine starr. andrea, i want to go to you first, you have brand new reporting on these developments over the last couple of hours in eastern ukraine. >> reporter: a person familiar tells me that president zelenskyy has officially requested a u.n. security council meeting. and just two explain, of course, there are five permanent members of the security council, and russia could veto. and president xi's foreign ministry put out a statement today saying that ukraine is a sovereign nation, and should have sovereignty. this is longstanding chinese policy, no interference from us or anyone else. but they were asserting this, very importantly, despite that agreement between vladimir putin and president xi on that opening day of the olympics when putin was in beijing. u.s. officials have been very closely watching what will china do? will they help vladimir putin get around the sanctions, and other materials that he needs far more urgently, depending on the sanctions? will they back channel, will they hel

as always terrell jermaine starr with the atlantic council. embedded there with the civilian force. on the road at the moment in kyiv. thank you so much. we return now to nbc news is correspondent who is in poland on the border with ukraine. what you are seeing there is a little bit different. also on the road terrell, is with those who are trying to defend ukraine. you are watching people who are actually able to escape. mostly women and children at the moment. yesterday, when we spoke, buses upon buses were leaving. people weren't knowing where they're going. how is today different? >> yes, so it is interesting, as you said, yesterday we watched just buses full of people crossing this border checkpoint. this checkpoint is here. it's different than some of the other points because they don't allow pedestrian traffic. it's all vehicle traffic, but how we saw most people fleeing ukraine coming into this area was on the bus. those big gigantic tour buses. some of, them to checkers. if you look down here now, these are checkpoints where we have seen cars coming through but at some poin

terrell jermaine star, you have been doing amazing work showing us video of an apartment building tajjdamaged by this ai ta. >> reporter: you hear that? there's a siren going off right now. . >> we hope he's safe. we certainly think he is. we'll check back in with him in just a little bit. obviously kyiv, concerns it may fall in the next several days. this is cnn's special live coverage. more after this. so when my windshield cracked, i chose safelite. ththey replaced the glass and recalibrated my safety system. that's servicece i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ trelegy for copd. [coughing] ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze driftin' on by... ♪ if you've been playing down your copd,... ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day,... ♪ ...it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. ♪...and i'm feelin' good. ♪ no once-daily copd medicine... has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy wo

. >> the atlantic council, a senior reporter, terrell jermaine starr, describe what you're seeing, describet is behind you. >> right now, i just want people to see the effects of this war, so this is about a few minutes from where i live, we don't, we're not clear about exactly what happened, but this building was hit. we don't know if it was a missile or if it was debris and trying to figure out from other journalists but right now we can definitely show you that this building was definitely hit. you can see the debris here. you can see the burn. and look up, let's see if i can get up here, these are, you have people here who are cleaning out their apartment, and so we don't know the number of fatalities, we don't know the number of people injured, but this building was definitely hit hard. >> i want to draw in a little bit about your experience, and living in kyiv, right now, and from your vantage point, both as a scholar and as a reporter on this, there has been an interesting dynamic, and you tweeted out about this, in part, you write, the shear racism in putin's language toward ukraine

i want to go to kyiv now, and turn to ronald jermaine star, he is a former -- and a -- he is the foundert of the black diplomats podcast, he has been our eyes and ears on the ground in kyiv. terrell, i have been watching your twitter feed tonight. you had a few hours of silence you thought that was a blessing. because you are out there talking to people in the city that is under attack. two weeks ago when we talked, terrell, it did not seem that kyiv was going to be a city under attack. american intelligence said that this would happen, but it wasn't taken all that city recently there. and now, it is exactly what is happening. ukraine is under attack. >> very much so, thank you for having me on the show. right now, when i can tell you is that. the city is under attack. but at the same time the ten thence are fighting back. yesterday, we went to three recruitment centers that were calling for men between the ages of 18 and 60, to take up arms and fight for the country. and support the ukrainian forces. those centers were teaming with people willing to take up arms for their lives. if you

people and bringing us this story and analysis, every day for an affair journalist and host, terrell jermaine starr is in ukraine. joining us now is the democratic congresswoman, member of the house armed services and homeland security committee is, before becoming a member of congress, congresswoman slot conducted three tours in iraq as a militia expert for the cia. she is also help various intelligence positions including a senior post at the pentagon where she oversaw policies of russia, europe, and the middle east. it is a pleasure to have you here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> i am sensing that there is some possibility despite the fact that bipartisanship is hard to come by in congress, there is some potential for bipartisan action in the coming days as there has been, relating to russia and it's invasion of ukraine. >> i was just at the munich security conference this past weekend with a bipartisan delegation of senators and members of congress. you could feel the sort of feeling in the room, it was like look, we have a lot of differences between us but when it comes to deter

you know, i think is jermaine your reference to that you and bhatia share religious commitments religious commitments that i also have is, you know, another way of saying that it's not an entirely individualist project. for you or an entirely individual's project project for for really any of us and yet we have individual suffering so that nobody takes seriously, you know, i mean or at least nobody fully accepts as powerful as there as they're suffering, so i guess i what i resist in bhatia's argument. and some idea that the complaints of the road the wokes and as i say this aloe alice static load is one of them that you know the idea that racism causes some wear and tear on the body that you know, your regularly confronted with racism and that, you know actually hurts your body and you can certainly say that victims of me too incidents sexual assault and so forth have actual suffering in their body. you don't have to imagine it if they've been heard or bruised and and you know, now we're being asked to imagine that the suffering like let's take let's take the the argument that the newspa