how was your experience of jerusalem?your experience of jerusalem as a boy was someone who could exist or live or visit the two worlds. were they further apart or closer together than they were in the 50s when you lived there? >> well, i was rather depressed by my visit back in 2007 when i went back on a research trip for this book. you know, vermont lem is no longer divided as such, but if i tried to get a cab driver in west jerusalem to take me to splice in east jerusalem, they didn't want to go and vice versa, and i remember getting a palestinian cab driver in east jerusalem to get me to see an israeli friend in, i think it was a tel-aviv neighborhood, and he got lost, completely lost. it wasn't, you know, it wasn't anything complicated. he obviously had not been this much, so, it's, it was depressing, and -- >> you talked about how, benny morris, and a number of other figures whom you asked, well, do you have any contact with counterparts and basically they say no. >> it's very sad. i had leverage with benny -- lunch

shared jerusalem. >> oh really? >> yes. >> okay. at least not here. >> it's not listed there. i'm sure it's in the -- >> oh, it is. you know what -- i apologize. it seems so simple and straightforward. i thought, well, the biggest sticking point of all. >> no, jerusalem -- >> and there's also a provision for compensation of the palestinian refugees. no provision of rite of return. which was -- made sari hesitate for a moment. you know, most palestinians realize that, in fact, most of their relatives are -- have no intention of moving back to tel aviv. but there are -- the compensation is very important at least symbolically to -- and the money is best -- it's specifies also that this compensation fund would be from international contributions. but also from the state of israel. and from the palestinian perspective, it's important to sort of at least acknowledge -- have the israeli israelis acknoe they are part of it. that's actually the hardest part about this conflict and as an historian, what i see is both sides h

he was the grand mufti of jerusalem. the british made him the grand mufti of jerusalem. had an international following for his work from india to jerusalem to yugoslavia to london. everywhere there was communication and support for the arab war against the jews. eventually after the arabs continually beckoned and not these for some form of alliance it all came to head when the penal commission in the 30s recommended that there be two actual states. they said we have tried for many years to get these people together. knowledge is time to cut the country in half. they said better britain should run as a colony for 100 years that we should live one day with jews as co = allowing them to sit when they pray at the wall. 99% of what you read in this book is all quotation in context from the or original arabic from the original german and the regional english andy original british documentation. as we try to document carefully the roots of -- eventually the british began to see that their efforts to pushed the jews out of germany and out of europe was creating an actual jewish

the original prayers following down were to jerusalem. and after the jews of medina refused to convert, it turned to mecca. and the jews were exterminated one by one by having their heads severed by muhammad and his colleagues. then came the islamic conquest of all of the arabian peninsula. this is the well documented muslim conquest. and that is how the muslim world became established. i'm going to remind you, i'm going to remind people this is sensitive poppic. -- topic. i want to talk history only. not contemporary affairs. [inaudible comment] >> my job is history. you will determine the presence tense and you will determine the future. okay. so. the jews of the arabian peninsula and the middle east when the muslims took it over became demis. not just the jews, also the christian. this meant they were a protected group within the islamic world. they had second and -- second-class citizenship, or third-class citizenship. they weren't allowed to have complete religious freedom. and this is important because this issue comes right to the

now being in jerusalem. >> it was a great blessing to be here. the god who rescued us from the bowels of the earth is a god of mercy and so thankful. >> father fergus clark. many believe jesus was crucified, died and rose again. >> we would welcome any pilgram, there is a special meaning because of their rescue. it touched everybody in the world. now we can try to relate that to the great rescue from sin and death by the death and resurrection of jesus. >> they came through an invitation of israel's tourism. >> we tell the whole world, the holy land, israel is a place to come and pray for god. if you wants to say thank you, god, this is the place to do it. >> the miners did just than when they came to the western wall and offered prayers of thanksgiving. richard, the 28th miner rescued, his wife dana gave wife to their son 6 days after. it is a gift from god i am here today. chris mitchell cbn news, jerusalem. >> their story really captured the imagination of the entire world for those 69 days. incredible. now they are sharing the good news of je

there is so little public comment on jerusalem -- from jerusalem. >> even seen egypt are being watchedery closely. many arab countries as well. what do you make of the comments? >> i think israel does not have any legitimate reason to worry about the future. just like israel, the egyptians are entitled to have a democratic regime, entitled to basic fundamentals that we take for granted in 70 countries around the world. -- in so many countries around the world. it is not reason enough to stop a dictator from stepping down. >> you can feel the ripple effect of the protesters we saw in tunisia. in algeria, we had demonstrations on saturday. bahrain is being processed. >> the tanikia model certainly inspired -- the tunisian model certainly inspired not only egypt, but the rest of the region. as you mentioned, in ontario, on saturday, many demonstrations are expected in algeria, on saturday, many demonstrations are expected. despot's across the region -- the prime minister has been sacked and people are clearly demanding social-economic changes. these are all suggestions we have seen put ac

so the must mufti of jerusalem a shadow government. he was given virtual autonomy, he was on the british payroll. he had his own infrastructure, and he had control over the western wall. he had control over the positive conclude. -- mosque. and he was a huge agitator, and it was typical for him to speak many front of the microphone and say i want everybody not to engage in any kind of violence, and then in the side he would say, kill the jews, kill them where they are. so it was speaking with two different voices, one for the western world and one for the arab world. this is a tradition that goes back to the mufti, and we've given all these, this information in the diplomatic cables, in the arabic ables. -- cables. we tried our hardest to quote the arabic communications at the time. so the mufti of jerusalem was devious, he was part and parcel at the highest level with the hitler regime. he met with hitler in his office. he was under hitler's payroll, he was given -- he was elevated by hitler, and when i say he was with hitler, i don't

settlements have been going on for a long time that it's been happening in the west bank in east jerusalem which were annexed by israel and after the nine hundred sixty seven war. at this point according to estimates there are between four hundred thousand and half a million jewish settlers in the west bank and east jerusalem and that's you know the israeli leaders have generally for the most part supported this and the current leader prime minister netanyahu has strongly stood behind the settlements his attitude is jerusalem is not a settlement it's our capital now do you think that if the obama administration does go ahead or you know the u.s. in general make the shift and support this resolution do you think that has anything to do with the protests that we're seeing a ripple across the middle east right now because if we do see a change in government not only in tunisia and egypt but elsewhere than that could mean you know quite different attitudes going towards israel towards u.s. foreign policy. right i wouldn't draw a straight line between the protests going on in the arab world and

jerusalem. moscow is known to be one of the both expensive cities in the world and it's often believe that if you want to enjoy yourself you'll have to shell out this week artie's martin andrews discovers that that's not always the case moscow out is focusing on frugality and that's coming your way in a few minutes. finally the film the red of trade the chocolate factory in the heart of moscow is a historic site and of course if you explore the complex for free you can also find various freebies inside of the new response team and venues in this case and area. is a cafe and similar to the one side we can watch various films some of them in english and yes free egypt scheduled on the day the website enjoys its house documentary employee of movies with no tickets should. all be back shortly with the headlines do stay with us. mum mum. mum. mum. the becoming. of. this is true still keeps its secrets to denounce time from feel up in the soviet farms nikita khrushchev to control like a mind obsolete.

jerusalem. and this is the way the. as for the world's most famous boy wizard he's fallen foul of israel's rabbis after the last installment of his book was launched during the jewish sabbath many religious jews also forbid the children from reading his tales they say it's pagan content is forbidden in judaism but the reason has nothing to do with harry potter . except the hype. her brother contributed a lot to people interests in paganism and magic because it's cool and potter is not the only illustrious literature buried in israel's military cemeteries here in jerusalem is buried none other than william shakespeare like potter he was also part of the british army and served as a truck driver although he died a few years before potter was born both their tombstones bring a smile of recognition point three r.t. jerusalem. and moscow is known to be one of the most expensive cities in the world and it's often believe that if you want to measure yourself you'll have to shell out but this week artie

driving away the population even from jerusalem. killing the kind of ones in the international waters and this is democracy i don't know what the value is the most crazy has brought to such a brutal it is that they are doing and be killing children and women democracy means to live as well. the propaganda is no no no no no let me let me let me answer you said dump him i tried to jump in you did not allow me. the democracy and the democratic voter says is not to stand against democracy or what other. america is it is strongly again is not to get me elected government in palestine and that is right let me yeah this is really. just ok come on i'd like to jump in here and ask israel because you brought up a very good point here i mean a is israel's model of democracy worth exporting or just should israel not comment and not get involved in the internal affairs of another country egypt is trying its best it would seem to get its house in order but then you have netanyahu come out in basic praising mubarak is a great partner and friend et

jerusalem. we got a special report about how the oil industry is affecting the nature of the indigenous tribes in the amazon coming up in a few minutes time very interesting a report. ready it's here on the r.t. news channel from moscow this saturday night the nineteenth of february is coming up now twenty seven minutes past nine at night. it's vast stupid three shit and this is product find the price of healthy eating. we need to test these foods for toxicity allergenicity immune response lower nutrition in for environmental contamination don't you feel like a law brought some consider the experiment is human treatment very highly significant differences between the g.m. felt that they both at their own g.m. tried that but they weren't treated so well themselves one question means one career you ask one question you get the answer and you might or might not be able to publish it but that's the end of your career. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human v

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the mufti of jerusalem and the nazis. i'm talking about actual trench warfare. i spoke to a man here who said he was in the partisans. they fought against the part of sun's in yugoslavia, thousands of them. artillery brigade, paratroopers, infantry, this was not just a bunch of people robber rousing in the streets, this was not just a bunch of people on the radio. this was a group helping hitler wages for against humanity. it is very difficult when you talk about yugoslavia because you have surfs, catholics, some jews, muslims, bosnian muslims. the alliance changes by the minute, the hour, and it was a murderous makes that we have seen today. the same part of the world. the truth is that the worst crimes of the holocaust were committed by the muslim catholic alliance has plans of the nazis in yugoslavia. eventually it lost the war, but the holocaust stopped in may of 1945, but then it continued in the middle east as all of the infrastructure that has been put to place by the arabs to make common cause with the nazis to destroy the jews now came into their own mi

an endorsement from jerusalem would be the kiss of death. israel waits and watches in silence, like the rest of the world. but here is one interesting point. while you're waiting and watching mubarak's appearance on egyptian television, an israeli channel playing in the bbc office carried an interview with an israeli politician who knows mr. mubarak. well speculation swirled around the world about what he was going to do, it turned out the politician had spoken him -- spoken to him today and found he was in no mood to quit. it was an interesting reminder how close the two regimes have been in recent years, how well many people in israel no egyptian society. it makes it more interesting that there is so little public comment from jerusalem on an issue of such vital interest to this country, the region, and the wider world. >> earlier, i spoke to a member of the center for american progress. he said the white house was disappointed with the speech. >> the head of the cia expected mubarak to resign. i guess all of the signs they got were that h

jerusalem. next we hear from the head of the un office. says there should be a comprehensive approach toward fighting drug trafficking in afghanistan that interview coming up next stay with us. i'm here talking to mr he's the head of the u.n. office for drugs and crime russia has long been trying to get drug production included on the list of international security threats that most of it also thank you very much for talking to us now the u.s. seems to have been hampering those efforts to get struck production on. rats why do you think that's a it's a matter of. everybody considers. a major global challenges everybody agree with that. as well as a particular drug that in many took from the thirty third of ghana's to. blend in to launch assume a new regional program. and program for a neighboring country here's why we're doing good because we want to focus not only on the game but also in very general dimension you cannot fight the drug. trafficking guns that are produced. only in broader regional. context russia is a transit route to drugs

jerusalem. next we speak to the head of the un office on drugs and crime. comprehensive approach toward fighting drug trafficking in afghanistan coming your way next stay with us. i'm here talking to mr pease the head of the u.n. office for drugs and crime russia has long been trying to get drug production included on the list of international security threats that most of it also thank you very much for talking to us now the u.s. seems to have been hampering those efforts to get struck. why do you think it's. everybody considers. a major global challenges. as well as a particular drug in many. planing to launch a new original program. and program for afghanistan the neighboring countries where we're doing good because we want to focus on the game just to. show that you can try to put our. producer. and afghanistan because only in broader region no bridge no context russia the transit rate the drugs from afghanistan they then case three to europe and on to the rest of the world and the country has been insisting that these substances that he used to make dr

for more on this let's cross live to a pro israel advocate in the allows or as he joins us from jerusalem many thanks for joining us here mr last for us now is israel concerned what's happening in egypt and how can the political crisis there affect israel status in the middle east do you think. well i think israelis today are looking at their television screens and reading the newspapers both with a sense of hope and anxiety on the one hand there's hope because democracy which we have here in israel is spreading throughout the middle east to arab countries which haven't seen democracy before he had on the other hand there's a fear and trepidation the question which every israeli is asking themselves today is at the end of the day will that thirty year old peace that we've had with egypt last so again i think there's mixed feelings one there's certainly a sense of of joy that there's democracy spreading but israel isn't only the going to be the only democracy in the middle east yet on the other hand where is it going to lead and will that peace that we've had survive now many think that th

stanford university in washington we cross to use of moon air he is the executive director of the jerusalem fund for education and community development and another member of our cross talk team yell on the hunger or a gentleman crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i think go to a. statement made by netanyahu recently about the events playing out in egypt and this is what he has to say about the treaty that was the result of the camp david here we go he israel israel believes that the global community must demand that any egyptian government preserve the peace treaty with israel joel if i can go to you first i mean is that an unusual demand i mean here's a country israel demanding that a sovereign country and hopefully an elected government out to get through all of this violence. keep to a peace treaty that that is genuine generally not popular in egypt right now. it is an unusual demand but it's very much in line with the kind of demands that israel routinely makes israel doesn't see itself as a country that has to live in the middle east with its neig

jerusalem. now moscow is known to be one of the most expensive cities in the world and it's often believe that if you want to enjoy yourself you'll have to shell out but this week our day as martin andrews discovers that's not always the case moscow out is focusing on frugality and it's coming your way in less than five minutes. finally the film the red october took the sign to the heart of moscow is a historic site and of course if you explore the complex for free you can also find various freebies inside one of the numerous instead we've been using in this case and they area. is a cafe and cinema line is a civil inside as we watch various films some of them in english and yes three each of the schedule on the job websites enjoy it's house documentary and hollywood movies with no particular treatment. we're going to take a short break here on ars here and i'll be back with a recap of our top stories in just a moment. i stopped going. back. to. where you know that damage is in the black. but ver

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jerusalem. the story i want to work the water part of after the army of visitors now visiting his grave in twenty eleven coming up on a quarter of an hour on r.t. tonight sports news for you were russians for lawmakers in server will take on new world number one caroline wozniacki the final of the dubai championships lots more details on the mind i mean times kevin owen i'll update the headlines for you in just a couple of minutes here on our team from moscow this saturday night the nineteenth of february. for the. face to face with. the global economy. i believe significant differences between the g.m. felt that they both at the g.m. . but they weren't treated so well themselves one question means one career you ask one question you could be uncertain and you might or might not be able to publish it but that's the end of your career. hello thanks for being with r.t. tonight these are all top stories three tourists were killed in an attack on a van in the north caucuses just before an explosion

east i'm joined by ramsey by root in seattle he's the editor in chief of the palestine chronicle in jerusalem we go to israel made out he is the director of information resources at the manakin bagan heritage center and in london we go to come out and he is the chairman of the center for the study of terrorism and another member of our cross talk team yell on the hunger all right gentlemen cross talk rules in effect you have differences of opinion and i do encourage you to jump in here ok if i could go to ramsey first in seattle i think you know looking over the events that have happened in egypt and tunisia and as we're sitting down doing this program there are hundreds of thousands of people in the center of cairo protesting and demanding the end of the mubarak regime but over the last two weeks or so has the discourse of these dictators supported by the west they're the only things they did they're the only people that are a barrier to extremism in the arab world isn't that that that dichotomy that that discourse in tatters right now is we look at the people in tunisia we look at the peopl

hotels jerusalem. the middle east and rest some countries on the verge of civil war there are experts blaming foreign meddling for fueling the mass protests. many of these countries certainly in egypt and libya are certainly. bring it might be getting themselves into just as bad or even worse trouble if they don't move on the stump powerful interests that may be driving them from outside of the middle east. call for the return of property sons during the holocaust using that country of labeling the war as a liberation from the bolsheviks to justify murder. american students discover there's no earnings from learning. graduates settle for low skilled work or face looking for employment abroad. and in business russia's leading search engine planning an initial public offering worth up to one billion dollars it's the summit that's in twenty minutes. eleven am here in moscow this is r.t. thanks for joining us now we begin in libya where the country could be on the verge of civil war well that's the warning

we need to pray for the peace of jerusalem. this is what the joshua fund does to make a difference for israelis and palastinians on the ground. >> what would it mean for the minority christians in egypt? do you see they would face greater persecution depending on the government that comes to power? >> it is a good question, george. probably the million dollar question at this point. look, individual believers, none of us want to see our brothers and sisters go through persecution. however, from the lord's perfective, he allows it to strengthen the believers and mobilize christians around the world who haven't been paying attention to a particular country. gosh, we have to pray for support and encourage our brothers an sisters. that is what is happening in egypt. i was on the phone with our key allies and he was on the phone, the pastors they support in egypt, the good news is: more people are praying for the church in egypt than any other time. that is a good thing. >> joel rosenberg, someone very keenly watching what is going

there was the jerusalem embassy relocation act. there was the religious freedom act that was clearly designed and targeted to arab countries. it was the first step in getting us embroiled in the regime change issue. there's so many things on the president's desk with veto proof majorities that he had no proof but to sign, and that constrains diplomacy severely. the one thing i fear is aide, but i believe the president has still the power to change opinion here, and change opinion there, and i think he ought toe make a little better use of bill clinton who could be an extraordinary salesman, and i think he, himself, can be more vigorous and more -- i think more consistent. the meandering has taken a toll. >> host: what about the rumors that bill clinton might replace george mitchell? >> guest: look, george mitchell is a remarkable person. i would follow him to the ends of the earth. i think the quiet diplomacy, the approach he used in ireland where as one of the irish principals involved in those negotiations told me is george let's

let's be in let's not wait for egypt and jerusalem. -- let's not wait for egypt and jerusalem. let's be in the forefront. let's make san francisco a model for what it means to live together. >> please give it up for mary helen rogers' family. >> good afternoon, everyone. thank you for coming out. i am so proud of the partners that came to the family and worked with us to make sure that what my mother had wanted in this building was going to be there. i am so proud of them and i thank them. when my mother first came to the city and started fighting in this community, we knew that she was not going to be home as much as she should have been. but we did not mind. we had a bigger brothers and sisters that would whop us what my mother would " bust. -- whaop us. they keep telling me to keep this short, but i am a talker. what can i say. how member -- how many members of the family are here today? [applause] my son, my daughter, my niece and nephews, generations of the rogers family are here today. i wish that you could come here and speak. where are you at them in pushing you. get up

jerusalem and jewish neighborhoods will need to be under israeli sovereignty. the palestinian neighborhoods need to be under palestinian sovereignty. there needs to be a special arrangement for the holy parts of the city. we can go further with the palestinian right of return. that will lead to the state of palestine. this is not one state for the palestinians and a half a state in israel for the palestinians. this is one state for the palestinians and the jewish state of israel, with the rights of the minority protected, as they must be in any democratic state. these are the principles. they are not shocking. they have been discussed ad nauseum. but the truth of the matter is no american president in a definite way has said we are going to resolve the conflict based on the 1967 lines, with modifications that reflect subsequent agreements or developments. american presidents have talked about the palestinian position and the israeli position. i would argue it is time to state and american position. it is only through an american position that we will avoid a ca

nor would it be appropriate to just handle the issue of jerusalem. there are many interlocking parts of the israeli-palestinian conflict. i would suggest to highlight one is not a proper course of action. if we were too allow that resolution to pass, what does it say to palestinians? why bother negotiate? just continue with the un security council. for those of us who believe the palestinian people deserve a state of their own to live in dignity and have their own economy, it is almost the rational to believe this strategy and planning the security council will get them to their goals. what needs to follow that the tell is an american initiative -- i would suggest the president take this opportunity to visit jerusalem and ramallah and outline a set of principles that state the following -- two states for two people. israel will be the homeland of jewish people. palestine will be the homeland of the palestinian people. the borders will reflect the 1967 borders with subsequent developments. there have been a variety of different negotiations. president

in one of five iraqi children flown from baghdad to a month and then driven across the border to jerusalem she was almost that she was so sick that you could not walk very talk she was very blue these parents faced the most difficult decision of their lives bring their children to israel a country at war with ease and risk punishment and even death back home or prepare for the alternative possibly losing their child initially it was a very difficult for them because it was their enemy country the parents were very anxious they didn't know what to expect i was very scared to come to israel very frightened. and she had good reason to be her country iraq forbids its citizens from traveling to israel just fire them there's there might be a layover in another country like i know for instance from africa they come in there ethiopia because it's the only place in africa that was. before the israeli doctors that treat these arab children the decision is simple i am doing what i think is right to do and doing rethink youth. in the last fifteen years more than two and a half thousand children have b