to write their letters to alvin bragg, an receive replies from lesli dubeck, who once again told ji jordan, we urge you to refrain from these inflammator accusations, withdraw your demand for information, and le the criminal justice process proceed without unlawful political interference leslie dubeck pointed out that jim jordan had nothing to sa about donald trump's threat of quote, death and destruction because donald trump is no indicted she wrote, as committe chairman, you could use th stature of your office t denounce these attacks and urging respect for the fairnes of our justice system, and the work of the impartial gran jury but that is of course hopeless because there is not now a single republican chairman i the house of representatives who has demonstrated the slightest comprehension or fidelity to the congressiona oath of office to support an defend the constitution of the united states. leading off our discussion tonight are two former manhattan assistant district attorneys, dan horwitz and catherine christian. and andrew weissmann is also with, us former fbi genera counsel an

we have congressman adam schiff to tal to us tonight about what has happened with a question of ji jordan obtaining testimony fro a former prosecutor who worked for alvin bragg. that became a pretty hotly argued motion today in federal court. the judge ruled very quickly so quickly that it's very clea that the opinion was written before the argument took place also later, in the hour, mor importantly merrick's gonn join us, the attorne representing ralph yarl, the 1 year old shot twice for ringin the wrong doorbell and o course as you know, ralph is a home, under the care of hi mother, who is a nurse, so the first thing will find out is how ralph is doing, and then we'll find out more about th status of that case. >> those are really importan voices on a night like this, lawrence sounds like a good joe >> thank you >> today a trump appointed federal judge in manhattan deciding whether to block subpoena by jim jordan to former prosecutor in manhattan district attorney alvin bragg' office, and in that case the trump judge accused one of the sides in the case of engagin in what the judge cal

thanking chairman o the house judiciary committe james, call me jim, jordan the biggest town in ji jordan's ohio district appears to be mansfield, populatio 47,000 jim jordan has no idea what he is dealing with in the manhattandistrict attorney's office, which has jurisdiction over just one fifth of new yor city but that's well over 1 million people it was leslie dubuc who wrot the first letter replying to jim jordan's request tha district attorney jim jordan testified the house judiciar committee, and she dismissed i as ludicrous, improper, and an unconstitutional request jim jordan staff and wrote a seven-page replied leslie de beque's letter, in which the did not dare to renew thei request that alvin bag testify to their committee when they're asked that again. which means that big jim jorda has already done his cowardl to treat from demanding to hea testimony from alvin bragg which jim jordan knows he' never going to get as i said, when jim jordan wrote that first letter, there is nothing actually threatenin about it nothing at all it was like kids playing in sandbox. it was a group of

work on one himself pomerantz, for his part, he is put in this impossible situation we are both ji jordanme before the committee, and he risks violating that subpoena, and being held in contempt and alvin bragg has sued him t not testify. so, again, the court i basically giving everybody a little bit of breathing room giving mark pomerantz a little bit of breathing roo ultimately he decides whethe or not jim jordan has legitimate legislative purpose for calling pomerantz as a witness. no keep in mind, the interesting twist is tha pomerantz did not work on th case that alvin brag ultimately charged, which is falsifying business records an hauls money permits to storm daniels. instead, he worked in a very different case about whether o not trump lied on his tasks. that is me the judge will look about, about whether or no mike pomerantz is an appropriate witness for ji jordan's report of legislative bill >> senator, it is always something with republicans you've got republicans like ji jordan claiming to be the part of law in order, but what le do they have to stand on whe they are going aft

i say it is shaping up to be another busy week with thi republican stunt, this is ji jordan's done that is taking place on monday, coming to manhattan and trying t showcase the crime in the city while totally neglecting everything that is happening i tennessee with all the push to get some kind of gun reform in this country past. >> we always talk about how th trump legal strategy is delay, delay, delay, and what we se that republicans have learne from his is distract, distract distract >> totally on brand for th republican party it is great to see you m friend, enjoy the rest of your evening off. welcome to ayman tonight going on offense by handing d alvin bragg who's jim jordan accusing him of interferin with his investigation plus, taking apart his frivolous lawsuit agains trump's -- reproductive rights of the conservative supreme court once, again the outrageous ant abortion law just signed by ro desantis in florida. also, the tennessee three ar back in action, stat representative justin pearso should discuss is return to th state, legislator and gloria johnson will speak out on th

in many ways, i think that thi is going to backfire on ji jordan, if he gets what he i seeking. it is alvin bragg who's goin to look like a cooler, calmer, more fair prosecutor, i think, than mark pomerantz. >> interesting that you have jordan responding to brad' lawsuit, his own filing, claiming that bragg's lawsui should be dismissed because it violates the debate clause at this point, the audience is experts on this subject, in th debate clause. does it apply here >> there is a case law in th speech and debate clause which does apply here. the problem is we have thi unusual context because yo have congress trying to ge information from another sovereign. it really can't be the cas that any single time tha congress issues a subpoena they get to say no matter ho outlandish this subpoena is, each debate clause means tha it has to be enforced. i do think that it applies, bu it's not the answer. this is one where you can' really look at the laws, and you know exactly how the judge is going to rule the facts are somewhat on th two sides, but as i said, think the people who are conce

i mean, you cannot make this up you've got republicans like ji jordan claiming to be the part of lawt leg do they have to stand on when they are going after alvin bragg and trying t sow explicitly interfere in th prosecution of donald trump? i mean, let's be clear, this would not be happening if alvi bragg was not pursuing a cas against donald trump >> yeah, you know, it is reall interesting the way they can find a small thread of jurisdiction to hank their hat on looking at federal money tha may have gone in whether federal money may have been abused. all they need to do is get him there. i mean, look, i don't think if whether pomerantz or alvin bragg would get in front o this committee, you are no going to see a whole lot o blockbuster information that comes out, it is not already out there. a lot of speech fired from the members of congress on bot sides of the aisle, a lot of speech-ifying. and on the witnesses him and all and dodged a little bit, because they can't answer al those questions. and i think that's one of th things this agreement will do. it will protect th investigat

so it look like it's very likely that mar pomerantz will end up doin some kind of deposition for ji jordan so what are you expecting from him >> i'm not quite sure whethe he will refuse to answer all questions or just some questions but i share th skepticism of this opinion judges bridal it being described as appointed by this president were appointed by president of this party becaus of the suggestion that their opinions are always gonna matc who appointed them but in this case it is so obviously a judg appointed by a very interested party in this litigation because it seems like all th presumptions favor jim jordan' motivations and none of them favor alvin bragg's. it also seems to me that the judge here has so buried her head in the sand, unwilling to see what is plainly before her eyes, everything from th hearing the, circus we just ha in new york, where jim jorda brought the committee there to try to embarrass and intimidat the manhattan district attorney, but it's not just subpoenain pomerantz. it's subpoenaing documents subpoenaing the district attorney, and of course th district su

look, it is unclear whether ji jordan is going to respond i time, because quite frankly, h may be preoccupied with a fiel hearing his committee is holding that very same day right here in manhattan. yes, the circus is coming to town on monday, republicans wil hold a hearing titled of victims of violent crime i manhattan, which they clai will expose how quote alvi bragg's pro crime anti-victi policies have led to a increase in violent crime and dangerous community for ne york residents now, it is no surprise in ne york city has been the targe of republican ire for decades. according to the gop, blue cities like new york are jus overflowing with george soro backed prosecutor's, pushing soft on crime policies that pu their citizens in danger it is not true, and manhatta murders, robberies, rapes, and shooting incidents are still down compared to the sam period last year the truth is, if republicans like jim jordan actually cared about cracking down on crime they might want to look in their own backyard's first look at this, in 2022 ohio's capital city of columbus, whic is near the district jorda

. >> haley sia, it shaping up to be another busy week with this republican stunt, the ji jordan's not that's taking place here on monday coming to manhattan and trying to showcase the crime in the city apparently, well trul neglecting everything that's happening in tennessee with al of the push to try and get som sort of gun reform in this country past >> you know, we always tal about how the trump lega strategy is delay delay delay, and what it seems like republicans have learned fro him is distract, distract, distract >> truly on brand for th republican party under the trump era. alicia, it's great to see yo my friend enjoy the rest o your evening off >> good evening and welcome to ayman's night. manhattan d.a. alvin bragg sue -- interfering with his trump investigation plus taking apar trump's lawsuit against former employee. republican writes in the hands of the republican supreme cour -- anti abortion law signed by ro desantis in florida. also, the tennessee three back in action, state representativ justin pearson will discuss hi return to the state legislatur and gloria johnson

the republican chairman of the house judiciary committee ji jordan's head into new york on monday to nto the case. and as jordan indicated on fox today, the manhattan case is not the only trump issue he wi worried about. >> i think you are going to se the state of georgia go afte president trump. i hope it doesn't happen i think you may see the specia counsel go after president trump. i hope it doesn't happen but that's just how ridiculous the left has become. and it's not good, not good at all for our great country. >> andrew weissmann served a lead prosecutor on rober mueller's special counsel team he's co-host of the msnb podcast prosecuting donald trump. and he joins me now. andrew, i found this sort of comical, as jordan ticks through the different case outstanding against trump, the show how crazy the left is a opposed to how maybe it th person at the center of this i maybe not the best food. >> yes, at some point a certai segment of the american public will say, you know what? maybe one was wrong, maybe too was wrong -- but really four -- charged. you cannot make that argumen w

then - >> president trump - speak to us -- >> as the manhattan da sues ji jordan house republicans are trying to obstruct the prosecution of donald trump, rebecca traister and with th focus of trump's arrest may be costing us plus - >> under current kentucky law, the assault rifle that was use to murder five of our neighbor and shoot at - police officers will one day b auctioned off. think about that >> as kentucky searches fo answers in the wake of a mas murder, the governor of on state that is about to sign an assault weapons ban joins me live, when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i' ali velshi, in for chris hayes we're watching continuin fallout on the aggressiv anti-democratic power play b republicans in the tennessee state house. now, tomorrow, a local board o commissioners in memphis, whic is in shelby county, i expected to vote on whether to reinstate justin pearson, wh is one of two black democratic lawmakers expelled b republicans over decorum violations, stemming from a gu reform protest that they hel at the state capitol after a mass school shooting i te

goldman issued a statement saying, instead of focusing on improving the live of the american people, ji jordan has decided to come t my district at the behest of donald trump to continue t weaponize congress to obstruct an ongoing, non federa criminal prosecution if jordan truly cared abou public safety, he'd be having field hearing in nashville tennessee or louisville, kentucky, where the most recen of the daily mass shooting have killed more innocen americans. chairman jordan is not welcome in my district for thi political stunt that is simply a further waste of taxpaye money to support donald trump' legal defense. tim leading off our discussion tonight is congressman danie goldman of new york. he served as a house majorit counsel during the first impeachment trial of donal trump, he represents the district where donald trump' hush money case is currently being heard. also with us is andrew eisman, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the -- district of new york, he is professor of practice and ny law school and an msnbc lega analyst. congressman goldman, first, to the so-called fi

while she was talking about th attempt there by the house judiciary committee under ji jordan's leadershipfte alvin bragg for trying to hold donald trump accountable for his alleged crimes congresswoman stacey plaskett, thank you so much for joinin us and i apologize for thos technical difficulties after the break, i will be joined by kelly robinson president of the human right campaign, to discuss republica attacks on the lgbtq community and the pushback stay with us your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. with the money we saved, we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ when you have chronic kidney disease. there are places you'd like to be. like here. and here. and here. not so much here. if you've been diagnosed with chronic kidney disease farxiga reduces the risk of kidney failure which can lead to dialysis. farxiga can cause serious side effects including dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections in women and men, and low blood sugar. ketoacidosis is a serious side ef

let me go with another story with regard to the republica colleagues of, yours led by ji jordan they are attempting to investigate the case against donald, trump da bragg calls the efforts unprecedente campaign of harassment and intimidation how do you see it >> look, when chairma jordan went to law, school never practice law and it' showing. we should still know better. it's not within hi jurisdiction they are playing with the rule of law and if they are really concerned about something like this, i would be more concerne with the president, the former president creating the risk of violence and threats, usin virtually the same language watched january 6th a couple years ago which led to a violent insurrection i was in the, room i thought firsthand. nearly brought our democracy down but it's not something that we are focused on right now keeping in mind that as yo know, who knows what's going t come out of it the georgia investigation, which in my min could be far worse or it could be the january six investigation. isn't this a little surreal fo all of us? i was part of thos investi

do you think that will have an effect on this >> maybe so, but again, ji jordan cannot be held to tas ca shun or b judges for his behavior. he is of course protected by being a political figure, doin supposedly what passes for his job. lawyers of course can be hel accountable by judges, and w have seen that with any number of the council that, is mike pence so memorably said in your previou segment, was giving donald trump very bad advice. so look, at the end of the day i think these lawyer understand that they are dealing with a very seriou situation, and very seriou special prosecutor with a se of facts that is prett uncomfortable to them. and i know that they feel like those set of facts up agains the law is an uncomfortabl thing because they are doing these games, these pr stones that frankly make absolutely n sense, but again, it sort of a classic attribute of the whole trump show which is create a much dust and uncertainty an fear as you possibly can and hope for the best. >> when you talk about the seriousness of thi investigation into the documen retention down at mar-a-lago y

manhattan distric attorney alvin bragg takin legal action against -- of the house judiciary committee ji jordan by suing jim jordan i federal court for a quote, unprecedentedly brazen and unconstitutional attack. - district attorney bragg and hi investigation of donald trump. also today, donald trump did his first television interview since becoming a crimina defendant. we will show you portion of the interview wit tucker carlson in a moment, small portion. but first thi reminder, chuck carlson hate donald trump passionately. and he put it in writing. an donald trump knows that. o january 4th 2021, two days before donald trump sent a violent mob to attack th capitol, tucker carlson texted a coworker saying we are very, very close to being able t avoid trump most nights. i hat him passionately. tucker carlson lives in fear of his television audience and hi audience loves donald trump. s tucker carlson has been doin everything he possibly can since that text became public few weeks ago, and the dominio voting seuss -- against fox, t commence viewers that he really, really, does love donald trump

today, the house weaponization committee is taking a victory lap and alvin bragg has cut a deal with ji jordan to allow former prosecutor mark to appea before the committee on ma 12th they're investigating the hush money payments investigation that led to don trump bein indicted for falsifyin business records a new reaction to a bill passe banning transgender women an girls from competing in female school athletics although that bill has n chance of passing th democrat-controlled senate, th -- just in the last hour, new reaction to the airman accused of leaking classified document in the court shut. the ranking democrat on th armed service committee saying that he shares the frustration of high ranking lawmaker following a classified briefing >> i share that frustration, i was at the house briefing couple of days ago they didn't tell us anything real i'm not satisfied until we kno exactly what what the whit house is doing to try to get a handle on these leaks. they have not kept us informed about why they are doing this. a lot of this is classified. we will talk about it on television, but the

and hi chin oral counsel leslie due back, has pushed back pretty hard they have put in writing to ji jordan things like, you ar interfering in our investigation and ou prosecution. you are attempting t intimidate us, and you are engaged in unlawful politica activity you know stephanie, those ar the words used in the eu new york penal law calle obstructing governmental administration and you know, when i see a prosecutor putting in writin that that is what a member o congress is doing, you have to wonder, how far is alvin bragg willing to take this to try an meet the force of what jim jordan's trying to do? >> daniela, let's stick with downtown mid happen, but go to the kevin mccarthy he was on wall stree physically at the new york stock's exchange trying to sel its debt ceiling plan. but here's the thing, we still don't know what it is. he does not appear to have his own caucus in line what is he selling >> we don't know quite yet there's going to be a meetin tomorrow the weekly go conference meeting where he is likely going to make his pitch this briefing, to his fellow republicans. we hav

. >> haley sia, it shaping up to be another busy week with this republican stunt, the ji jordan's notng t

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i say it is shaping up to be another busy week with thi republican stunt, this is ji jordan's done thatle totally neglecting everything that is happening i tennessee with all the push to get some kind of gun reform in this country past. >> we always talk about how th trump legal strategy is delay, delay, delay, and what we se that republicans have learne from his is distract, distra

to testify b the appeals court and does not give them any real answers tha is not something that ji jordan is going to want to put on tv. >> yes, that is right, i think a big part of this here is the show it is an effort to intimidat alvin bragg, and others, who might be so audacious as t file charges against forme president. so, if this turns out not to b the show that jim jordan wante then, perhaps, he goes quietly i do agree that if jordan want pomerantz to show up he's goin to have to at least show up. these are the same arguments w are making the tables were turned and it was trump and hi cronies that really sought t have contest they have to show up and the you can assert privilege ove specific questions on question by question basis but that may not be the kind o show that jim jordan is lookin for. >> that was my point last night, barbara, was that the judge' opinion, i found startling and it's rhetorical excess trumpia like rhetorical excess but the actual legal point where she landed seeme perfectly, reasonably argued if you just subtract all tha crazy rhetoric she added i there.

participated in the trump investigation for publicly putting the book, tell about it alvin bragg, quote, ji jordan's demands, including hi subpoena to mr. pomerantz, see highly sensitive and confidential local prosecuto earlier information that belongs to the office of the district attorney in the peopl of new york. basic principles of federalism and common sense, as well as binding supreme court preceden forbid congress from demanding it a new filing today, former manhattan date a, cy vance alvin bragg's predecessor. he's thrown his support by the behind the attempts to stop th subpoena in amicus brief today advanced into the group of attorneys an former members of congress quote, congress has no authority to interfere with an ongoing criminal prosecution particularly one brought by state prosecutor that calculus does not chang just because the defendant whom a grand jury indicted happens to be a former president of the united states nor does it change when member of congress attempt to characterize their unlawfu interference as oversight. joining us now, andrew weissmann, former fbi former counsel

and so it is ridiculous -- >> do you think congressman ji jordan's argument holds weight there? he is saying, he is usin federal dollars, that is wha gives his committee the licens to investigate >> your response >> my response is he i obstructing justice. by interfering with the -- of an elected state official clearly he is doing it at th behest of donald trump he is trying to create the illusion that what thi district attorney is doing i not in his purview as district attorney that is crazy. if this became the standar with the hundreds of distric attorneys we have in the country, now we have relegated ourselves to telling them what they should and should not do, the grand jury process is process that is sacred, is a process that is privatized i terms of the information and w have to respect that process - to now assume that a distric attorney can't do their job, simply because of former president is the perso potentially tasked wit violating the law. he is not above the law. and -- >> - i want to switch, congressman, if i can, i would like t switch gears because there were dea

about states rights and ar against big government, except when they aren't house judiciary committee ji jordan00 miles away fro his own district to intimidate basically, a local electiv prosecutor what was his prosecutors crime his offense? going after the gop's cult leader, former president donal j trump. for that, jordan and his minions are doing everything they can to interfere with manhattan d.a. alvin's bragg's case against trump bragg tried to fight back by suing jordan and asking a judg to block a subpoena from georgia taking testimony from former assistant va who worked on the trump - and manhattan. the judge, a trump appointee declined his request let's be clear what we are seeing here look like obstruction, it looks lik intimidation from republican in congress. and it is all in the service o the twice impeached and no indicted, ex host of the apprentice let's bring back my panel, brittani and martin still with me brittani, this is what the gop has been reduced to, attacking the abe reich as a soros funde prosecutor, trump calling hi an animal, bragg is now gettin death threats. and y

- the manhattan district attorne with at least three differen committees - including congressman ji jordan-- on weaponization of the federa government >> everything is on this table maria. we will talk with the othe chairman and look at the response we just got his letter back. we are reviewing that. this is about all of us. this is going -- who opposes the -- establishment's agenda, that i maybe the most scary thing o all. >> let's start there's a lot to discuss here. simone was i think mos recently - and i was watching your show with great interest about what the next few days old. >> you know, i played that sound of jim jordan actually - and as you know, former chai of the january 6th selec committee. and he says that this amount t obstruction of justice from, his republican colleagues. and he is actually ver concerned, as many democrats o the hill are, about this separation of power, or lack thereof. i had the opportunity to speak with lanny davis, i was quit fired up, frankly, about his client michael cohen, who's -- question >> he said that the very sam thing with the trump justice d

district attorney with at leas three different committees demanding his testimon including congressman ji jordan, the chair of the newly formed subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government >> everything is on the table. we're going to talk with the other chairman and look at the response we just got the letter back. we're reviewing that this is about all of us. this is about going afte anyone who opposes the lefts agenda, the establishment' agenda and that's the scariest thin of all >> let's start there's a lot to discuss simone was most recent of al of us on tv. i was watching your show wit great interest about what th next few days old. >> i played the sound of jim jordan as you all know, th former chair of the select committee. he said this amounts t obstruction of justice from hi republican colleagues. and he is very concerned as heard from many democrats on the hill about this separation of power and lack thereof. i had the opportunity to speak to lady davis who was quit fired up about his client of michael cohen whose credibilit has often been called into question >> he said