that's clear it was jill abramson. she completely made up this whole phony argument that she was paid less. "the new york times" is on the record -- "the new york times" is on the record is saying it's not true. why would canaletta -- >> you don't believe "the new york times." >> i don't believe the new yorkers un -- anonymous sourcing on this sorry. canaletta first wrote this was a issue she was fired over because she was paid less. "the new york times" says it's not true. >> i want to come back to this equal pay question. we still have here an issue where a newspaper has canned a woman and gotten into a public fight with a woman and trashed a woman who had until a few days ago had been its leader of its newsroom. >> that's right. it got all the good press when she became editor so you live by the gender, you guy by the gender and on some level they are going to have to address questions and come up with kind of why this happened. i mean, they talk about how difficult she was. she managed down poorly. she had fights w

when he debated whether to make jill abramson the next editor, the debate was he worried that jill abramson was too much like hal in some ways, she was too rough. not as rough as hal. she had a brusque reputation. he worried about that. he decided that she had the experience, she was tough and she had the digital experience that kay lacked and he chose her. they had a good relationship for a period of time. they heard feedback that she was brusque with people in the newsroom and some tension existed. >> because of? >> all kinds of things. she was very wary of the new ceo mark thompson coming into the newsroom. you had a high wall between the news side and the business side. >> the job was to fix digital. >> and to figure out new ways of generating revenue. all newspapers are in trouble. the business side once those walls lowered was to figure out some ways to make more money. a traditional journalist and jill abramson is a good journalist worries. something called native advertising comes to the fore. which "the times" embraces. it is saying to corporations, we will camouflage your ads to m

the "new york times" has received a pulitzer since jill abramson became its first female editor in 2011. while arthur sulzberger and jill abramson are not talking to the press, both have appeared on this program in previous years. in a conversation in 2011, abramson told me about her interview for her position with the publisher. >> well, you know, i was nervous. i'll admit. he took me to a very nice restaurant. i kind of picked at my food. ( laughter ) >> rose: and what did he want to know? >> he was very frank with me. he wanted to know, first of all, things about what my vision of where the news report needed to go. and he wanted to discuss both some of my strengths and some weaknesses, too. >> rose: so he had an appraisal of both strengths and weaknesses. >> he did. and i thought they were quite fair. >> rose: and accurate? >> i thought they were accurate. >> rose: like, what did he say? >> he said that when i am in a bad mood, i can be too brusque with people, and that you can just read it on my face. that there's, like, good jill who is delighted and engaged and wants to talk abou

that's what jill abramson's daughter wrote on instagram on friday, two days after abramson was fired from the "new york times." this morning we're talking about the outcry that has followed her departure. the fact of the matter is that abramson did not choose to leave the times quietly nor was it her decision. she is planning to interview at wake forest university tomorrow. what might she say? is she a victim of a double standard in the media? arthur solzberger, the times' publisher, did point out why he thought she was such a bad manager. we've put it on cnn.com for you to read. now let's bring in people who can help shed some light on this. she wrote for the times for decades and left in 2011. and rebecca shaster, a senior editor for the public. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> since we both wrote for the times, are you as angry as i am about how badly thfis was handled? >> yes, i'm angry. i'm angry for dean who deserved a better ascension to this job that he was always going to get. i'm angry for jill and that however she managed, and there is a lot of question about tha

these are going back in jill abramson's career. a letter reported that they retained a lawyer to represent her in this. the flipside of that is the report was also that her doing so was basically the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of solsberger deciding enough was enough. this is not about an executive and a change in management. this suddenly is about equal pay and the pay gap, and retribution for complaining about disparity in pay, which is - i mean, this - to suddenly to think i'm ocarant with what the administration wants to see, it's taken something that could have been seen as implicit. which was - is it because she's a woman, is it that she's not a good manager which has been floated. to a very real question of okay. why did it seem like in every area jill abramson has been getting different treatment and hold to a different standard. there has been reports. that she was polarising, mercurial, brisk. >> that would bring her in line with every single one of her predecessors at the top of the mass head of the "new

somet just jill labor and -- abramson and mark thompson. arrangedened was they janine gibson to come in a week ago last monday to meet with arthur and thompson and the go to lunch. they were trying to recruit her. wasdid not tell dean she recruiting to be a managing editor but doing digital. upset.really so he happened to have a dinner with arthur sulzberger is the following wednesday, tuesday -- two days later. didat dinner, dean something very uncharacteristic. he is very gentle and a popular figure and a good journalist. he said it is unacceptable that this happened this way and the fact that jill is very difficult to work with, i find. arthur was confronted with the question, this fit into that sense that jill was too difficult and it was not a team that he felt calm but with. jill to hise asked office and fired her. he said would you like to announce your resigning? tell the truth. thing aboute more the pay which i think is important? it doesn't matter whether you double over how many dollars difference there wasn't pay it even if you

the new executive editor, dean baquet, he cited a quote that great editors can be humane and jill abramson taught him the value of great ambitious. that was not nice. >> there's a lot of veiled things, jill had an illustrious career and was a fantastic report are. she had a read deal about taking small details and put them into an interesting argument giving you a look into what was happening behind a story. she had gone up the willeder. she was -- ladder. she was washington bureau chief and at "the wall street journal." some said she didn't have an approachable nature that some may be looking for. dean has a different reputation among the staff. he's kinder. he said in his opening speech to the staff at executive editor, that he would roam the aisles, talk to people. a note to a different style that he has. >> jill abramson got applause when it was announced. but women staffers have been speaking out and according to capital new york, some female editors were disturbed by jill abramson's dismissal. >> they brought it up in the meeting with the publisher. they were concerned how it would l

this is jill abramson in boxing gloves. her daughter posted this on instagram, a warning, a shot across the bow saying there's more to come and saying and doing something about this. we don't know what. >> you certainly know, you know the culture of "the new york times." that picture is clearly no mistake. how did you take the statement from sulzberger? >> it was needed, necessary and probably too late. for three days that's a narrative from abramson's camp saying she was the victim of sexist behavior, paid less than the male predecessor and that she was treated poorly and that was descriptions of her as being pushy, as being brusque, sexist descriptions and it's possible she was a poor manager, not holding on to the support of the newsroom. in my experience with her, she was a beloved figure of reporters and someone that the editors struggled to work. >> struggled to work with how? >> when i was thinking of coming over here, i met with her and talked with her and whether i was leave, she reacted and made it easier to leave

do i have that right in. >> the new editor that's replacing jill abramson, he's the first african american york times." historic appointment just like abramson was and unfortunately that's been foreshadowed. >> we know this is really just the beginning. thanks to both of you. appreciate it in new york. >>> all right. straight ahead, nigeria stepping up its efforts to find the kidnapped school girls after the security summit in paris. nigeria said it will accept technical help from nations. france's president calls the kidnappers the islamic terrorist group boko haram, a throat beyond nigeria. what should the u.s. do? here now is cnn's anchor, jack tapper. >> some, the way to help the more than 220 school girls still being held hostage seems obvious low pressure bring back our girls with force. >> i would like to see special force deployed to help rescue these young girl. >> beyond the hashtag activism 0 online, senators such as susan colinens and john mccain are calling for boots on the ground. >> i think the people of nigeria would welcome the rescue of these young woman. >> mccain said h

." >> the new york times announced earlier today that executive editor jill abramson would be replaced. former washington bureau chief will become the first-ever african-american editor of the newspaper. joining me now from washington, dylan byers from politico. he broke the news. i'm pleased to have them here on the program. dylan, tell me about what happened and why this decision was made. >> it was very sudden and it goes without saying that we don't have all the answers yet. with the publishers said is that it was due to an issue with management to the newsroom. there were some frustrations among members of the staff and in some cases condescending. we do not know how much of a role that laid. she also had struggles with the times ceo, mark thompson, who took a more aggressive approach to handling editorial operations in the newsroom than in the past. we still don't have the full answers as to why she left. >> you have been covering the story and you clearly were the one to break it. trace for me what's been going on at "the new york times" for the last year. >> it's been a time of

although there a non-disparagement agreement, i guess jill abramson and "the times" her daughter tweetedut a picture of her mother and it is a picture of joe abramson boxing and entered it says "pushy." in january, she spoke about a panel -- on a panel. she noted there have been many leaks, more than any other administration. >> it seems to be this is not a stated policy, reality where journalism about sensitive national security issues that i see as vitally in the public interest is effectively being criminalized, and a real freeze is setting in in what had been, to this point, i think, a healthy discourse between sources and journalists. and i might -- if i could take just a minute, because the gentleman had quite a bit of long time to speak, is to point out that max frankel and a very famous affidavit in the pentagon papers case wrote eloquently about how the public does in a fit from this discourse -- does benefit from this discourse. i have seen both in the job as washington bureau chief of "the times" certainly growing as managing editor and now executive editor, that these crimina

jill abramson confronted her bosses after discovering she was paid less than a predecessor. sols berg e denies that, releasing a statement saying: . >> jill abramson has been replaced about dean backa, the paper's first african-american editor. and in france, natalie steps down. seven of her editors quit after plans to transfer staff to a digital side, develop a new op line and launch a revamped format. "i can't accept being undermined." she was elected to run ley monde but accused of an authoritarian and vladimir putin like management style. it is most pollular daily, but struggled with debt despite getting 16 million euros. >> 7.5 years after the murder of anna politkovskaya, a moscow court convicted five men for her killing. three are brothers. the other two men are their uncle and a former police officer. in 2009 all five were tried acquitted in a verdict that embarrassed russian politicians and led to a retrial. she was shot in her moscow apartment. she worked for a newspaper and vetted human rights abuses in chechnya. her murder unscoring problems in russia. the convic

what is your take on what happened to jill abramson at the time?say it is the hand of gender biassed. others say, it is just how a man would be treated. >> there is no way to know what happened behind the scenes but what is clear from reading the "new york times" story is that it is the same old horrificster why types trotted out in a way that i'm shocked by actually that no one had the editorial eye to say word like aggressive management. sorry, my hair is out of control. pushy, abrasive, i may not be quoting directly. but that same story we read dozens and dozens and dozens of times about a strong powerful woman. and i know jill abramson in passing. she is an investigative reporter. you don't get the story if you're not persistent and pushy and abrasive. it is that obvious sexism in the hand of a departure. >> we will talk more about that an i want hilary rosen in here. report that jill abramson found out that she made less man than her predecessor, bill keller. and they say compensation had nothing to do with it. and that blew up. when they say

that he played the kind of role being speculated about, that there was conflict between him and jill abramson. >> there was a report that jill " at the way hed wanted to come in and make the decisions that were usually executive editor, video, digital. some ways that the vivid -- video strategy would affect editorial. she had spent decades at the times and has a long career in newspaper journalism. it was very hard for her to see this in of the business side into the editorial structure. >> what's the relationship between dean and jill abramson? publicly, they have spoken supportively at of one another and there were some very tense disagreements between them and the newsroom. as we reported, there was one meeting that got so contentious that dean walked out of jill abramson's office and punched a hole in the wall at "the new york times" headquarters. clearly it was up and down. they managed to weather the relationship and produce what is still a great product. i don't think they were hanging out on the weekends, so to say. >> my impression from people who know him is that he's a very popular

and the first public comments from ousted executive of the "new york times," jill abramson. when she speaks, we'll bring you her comments. it's monday, may 19, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." my first reads of the morning -- we're down to the wire. polls open for this cycle's super tuesday. it is the closest thing we have. and the tea party is looking at the real possibility of a series of debates tomorrow. six states hold votes. mitch mcconnell now leads his opponent matt bevin. i'll admit, i always have skepticism of polls like the one here. they're not made up only of live callers. this is survey usa, they do a lot of what we call robo polling around here but they do do live cell phones to supplement a little bit but it does track with our nbc live poll from last week. clearly the mcconnell campaign is confident. this morning they sent out a memo listing the results for every recent major senate primary that featured an ibt on both sides of the aisle. clearly they blow he will be in the upper half of success of these incumbent versus challenger primaries, that have cer

it was at this moment that jill abramson, during a period.ssion about the digital future of the paper and all that was given power. now her successor, who is an african, first african-american editor of the paper is going to preside over a similarly turbulent time. >> rebecca one more thing here. whether or not she was fired for the right reasons, because of her performance alone, or because of some gender related conflict. you can still draw a straight line from the way people talked about her work to the way people talked about him ear clint-- hi clinton when she ran for president. >> sure. a lot of the very valid complaints people have about hillary clinton the way she ran her campaign. strategic mistakes. they're not just about gender. not because she is a woman. that woman. right. we also have to take a look at how the way that we absorb her, the very real complaints, are in themselves gendered. jill abramson was criticized in public often for being brusque. for being difficult. for being abrasive. for being mercurial. qualities we are m

the "new york times" announced earlier today that executive editor jill abramson would be replaced. publisher arthur sulzberger informed him. joining me now from washington dylan byers of politico, he broke today's news after covering the turbulence at the times all year, i am please to do have him here on this program. dylan, tell me about what happened and why this decision was made. >> sure. it was very sudden, and because of that thing we don't have all of the answers yet. what arthur sulz burger said it had nothing to do with the quality of the paper under her tenure. of course a year auto we reported there were some frustrations among members of the staff request her leadership they found her to be combative in some cases and in some cases condescending. we don't how much of a role that played. she also had struggles with the time ceo mark thompson who had taken a more aggressive approach to handling editorial operations in the news room than in the most. but we still don't have the pull answers as to why she left. >> rose: trace for me because you've been covering this story

thanks to jill abramson. we like new blood here on washington d.c. i don't know why that would be a bad thing. get rid of the dead weight. someone is going to pick up jill abramson, and they will get an all-star. >> yeah. we like new blood here on the cycle as well, and i think those are great points. we keep win pointing out that there's a lot more to the story. i keep going back to the question of if the roles were reversed and if this were a male in this position would the same thing have happened. would we hear the same narrative about him being too "pushy?" regardless of what ends up being the real full story here, i think this has had a chilling effect on women. not just in the "new york times", but women all over the place. >> we're starting to see how folks inside the time are feeling. they're beginning to write about it. david carr wrote a piece today about how they're feeling in the newsroom and he put it this way. for pundits and reporters an episode is akin to a pinata that hangs itself and hands you a stick. i think that's an unfortunate

jill abramson, it was reported that jill abramson was paid $475,000, a starting salary compared to thatf $559,000 of her predecessor, her salary was raised and only after she protested and the idea was that she had got to "the times" and protested and that was part of her dismissal and seen in "the new york times" david carr their media reporter writing a column saying, so i like jill, my reporter including interviews with senior people backs up the conclusion of sulzburger this was not about pay equity. how do you make sense of this whether that was the issue? >> i think david is right. i think the pay equity story is a sideshow and there was a lot of unrest and division at "the new york times" and discontent with having an editor who was really aggressive, brusque, whatever adjective you want to use. it is also true that sometimes adjectives like that get used about women in a way that are different from men but that doesn't necessarily mean this was a sexist firing. >> so i think that is a really key point that everything seems overdetermined here. it seems to me the possibility this

but 87 is showing a little slowing now that we have a new crash around capital expressway. >>> jill abramsoniving the commencement speech at wake forest. you're looking at live pictures. abr abramson fired by "new york times" last week where she had been the executive editor. let's listen in for a moment. >> katharine graham the publisher of "washington post" which broke the watergate story. they both face discrimination in a much tougher, more dominated newspaper industry and they went on to win pulitzer prizes. my colleague who is standing up against an unfair washington leak investigation is another hero. i co-authored a book about anita hill, who testified about sexual harassment before an all-white, all-male senate judiciary committee in the 1990s. the senators portrayed her as being one of the distracters so delicately put it, a little bit nutty and a little bit. she turned that potential humiliation into a great career teaching at -- >> you are listening to the graduation speech at wake forest university in winston-salem. jill abramson discusses, we didn't hear a lot of context there,

it will be a pivotal moment. >> reporter: jill abramson may be in a fighting mood. her daughter posted this picture of her 60-year-old mother on instagram #pushy. as executive editor of "the new york times" abramson was one of the most powerful women in journalism until last week when she was abruptly fired after less than three years on the job. while there are reports that abramson was terminated after she questioned whether she was paid as much as her male predecessors, in a strongly worded statement issued saturday, the newspaper's publisher denied that allegation saying, i decided that jill could no longer remain as executive editor for reasons having nothing to do with pay or gender. i concluded that her management of the newsroom was simply not working out. that ignited a furious debate on social media about whether a sexist double standard was in play. while others were asking, maybe the grievances against her are justified? why treat women as victims? a recent study on gender differences and leadership styles found that women are perceived as being less conf

it will be a pivotal moment. >> reporter: jill abramson may be in a fighting mood. her daughter posted this picture of her 60-year-old mother on instagram #pushy. as executive editor of "the new york times" abramson was one of the most powerful women in journalism until last week when she was abruptly fired after less than three years on the job. while there are reports that abramson was terminated after she questioned whether she was paid as much as her male predecessors, in a strongly worded statement issued saturday, the newspaper's publisher denied that allegation saying, i decided that jill could no longer remain as executive editor for reasons having nothing to do with pay or gender. i concluded that her management of the newsroom was simply not working out. that ignited a furious debate on social media about whether a sexist double standard was in play. while others were asking, maybe the grievances against her are justified? why treat women as victims? a recent study on gender differences and leadership styles found that women are perceived as being less comp

and in it he points to specific reasons we're why she said jill abramson was dismissed. id decision making, failing to bring her colleaguings with her and inadequate communication. salzberger goes on to say in her final year on the job, abramson's compensation package was 10% higher than her predecessor bill keller. abramson's dismissal had nothing to do with pay or gender, here's part of his statement, quote, perhaps the saddest outcome of my decision to replace jill abramson as executive editor of "the new york times" is that it has been cast by many as an example of under the unequal treatment of women in the workplace. initially, the time said abe brackson dismissal had to deal with a management issue. she says the times took this risk because implications of sex discrimination are just too damaging in this kind of environment. >> publisher of "the new york times" is so worried as being regarded as a sexist that he's willing to take the risk of legal liability here by detailing how terrible a manager jill abramson was. >> abramson has the first female executive ed of

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jill abramson had been at the company since 1997. executive editor for less than three years. bill had been there eight years as executive editor. i'm with you all the way, jedediah. i will always defend merit-based pay before i say somebody should be paid equal to her predecessor. >> why are you hiring someone to do the job if they're not qualified to do the job. >> she did a spectacular job obviously. >> she should be paid roughly the same amount. >> is she doing the same? we're not there. >> length of time at a company, kirsten makes a big -- >> is point i was making. why would her successor in her old job make more money than she did? that doesn't make sense to me. she was washington bureau chief. she clearly did a good job and they wouldn't have promoted her to executive editor and somebody makes 100,000 more? >> pension and pay at "new york times" were frozen in 2009. >> i've known jill for several years and she is a, there was a lot of rumblings in the newsroom. she didn't get a long with a lot of reporters very well. she is t

jill abramson out as executive editor of "the new york times." the huge controversy and why you may not want to jump to conclusions. media buzz's howard kurtz is here. >>> fast-food giving workers like mcdonald's, kfc, taco bell, striking over low pay. we're live in oakland as protesters make their case. even when they say it is not, it is always about money! melissa: tough day for the markets. look at that! all three major averages down more than 1%. let's bring in the panel. jo ling kent, jack otter from "barron's" and james frischling from new oak. what do you make of this market, james? >> ten per is pretty good guy. he speaks his mind. i don't think he talks his book. melissa: you don't think he talks his book. that is what a lot of folks think. he knew this, he watched the market and he is profiting. >> i say he doesn't care. what i mean there is a time to make money. a time to protect yourself. market all-time highs. fed thrown everything they can including kitchen sink with this i think he is telling people to take a little money off. mel

he also reports jill abramson clashed with the company's ceo's intrusion of the business side into thee paper's web site. abramson was the times first female executive editor, having assumed that role in september of 2011. she will be replaced by dean baquet, the first fm african-american editor of the newspaper. >> and at a previous job she had, her assistant got paid more than she did. same thing happened at "time" magazine, until they got a female editor to open up the books. >> candaletta's reporting is not going to satisfy a lot of people and i think its own newspaper will be digging and probably is digging at this moment. we talked about the tone and the tenor of jill abramson being abrasive and pushy and aggressive and a lot of things you see in male bosses and you see in newsrooms and in our newsrooms -- >> i don't want to talk about my behavior at this table. >> not your behavior. >> well, actually -- >> those are usually positive descriptions when you talk about a man, someone who is not afraid to ruffle feathers and get in and get their hands dirty. there's a larger picture

jill abramson speaking out for first time after being fired. what she told the graduates at wake forest university about life's disappointments and what's next for her. >> one asked me are you going to get the times tattoo removed? not a chance. >>> good afternoon to you, i'm peter alexander in washington in for andrea mitchell. for first time the u.s. department of justice has filed criminal charges for cyber economic he is pea onage against another country. this was attorney general eric holder in a press conference a short time ago. >> we are announcing an indictment against the chinese people's liberation army for serious cyber security breaches against six american victim companies. the five chinese military officers conspired together and with others to hack into the computers in the western pennsylvania and elsewhere in the united states. we have brought a charging indictment and it is our hope to get them to stand before an american jury and face justice. >> joining me now, pete williams. the five individuals charged, members of china's

now jill abramson now in present time did the same thing.ng more. her predecessor as executive editor was earning a great deal more than she was and one of her deputies was earning more. so she asked them about that and she pushed and she negotiated and they didn't rectify the gap. so she finally goes and sees a lawyer and says she's not cooperative. we're going to get rid of her. my question is so what is it that we're supposed to do? >> to that point, i was surprised that they were sort of offended by the fact that she got a lawyer, which suggests to me that's the appropriate thing to do so you're not having the personal negotiation and someone -- >> she had the negotiation first. there had been a long process. they bumped her up a couple times. as with me all those years ago, hay refused to give you parody. so at that point, my question is what do you do? >> i did also read there was in the various explanations that she consulted and had an attorney. >> that that was in poor taste. you go to them like they are family instead of as a profe

brit, do jill abramson and her supporters have a legitimate beef?> possibly, but we don't really know what happened. the latest statement is a little vague. if there are indeed a number of people who have complained about her managing style and if, indeed, she -- he felt that he could not trust her because, for example, she tried to hire a co--managing editor without properly informing or consulting her colleagues, these are all legitimate concerns that senior management would have about any employee in any job. these are reasonable things. despite the fact that comments about a female employee's temperament can be sexist, that doesn't mean they are sexist. temperament matters for any manager, and if you are a senior person as the executive editor of the "new york times" and your temperament is -- does not well-equipped you to do the job and manage all the different egos and all the people you have to deal with, then that's a defect and a problem for senior management to deal with. what i would say isreally know. kiersten may be right that this may

there are new details today on the controversy surrounding the firing of jill abramson. xplaining why he let her go. he claims sexism had nothing to do with it. here's why, abramson will be making a public appearance tomorrow. good day to you, rehema. this is her first public appearance since her firing was announced last wednesday, certainly on this level? >> reporter: absolutely. she'll be speaking publicly for the first time since that very controversial dismissal. and it's that firing that sent waves through the media world. it also triggered a very familiar debate that goes on across this country. and that is, how women lead, and whether or not they are held to a different standard than men. now, we haven't heard abramson's version of this story yet. but the publisher of the paper has tried to make his case even clearer. late saturday he issued a statement saying, in part, i heard repeatedly from her newsroom colleagues about a series of issues, including arbitrary decision making, a failure to consult and bring colleagues with her. inadequate communication, and the

jill abramson had none of that. eight pulitzer prizes in her years there. >> she didn't want to be there for that. >> you can mention it. >> you could rightly ask how "the new york times" defends now that we have the salary numbers. that spokesperson for "the new york times" says you don't look at salary, you look at total compensation which includes bonuses, stock grants, and other long-term incentives. you can't deny and "the new york times" hasn't denied this yet that the baseline salary was much less. >> but you do look at the salary. the other things, it's not like keller didn't have the opportunity. the paper just wasn't doing as well for the bonuses. when jill got there the paper started doing better. in large part because keller did some great work and set it on a strong path. but it's not like they gave her -- >> i think there's also the issue, the fact that character has been raised in the case of jill abramson. i can't think of a senior male executive that has been fired on character grounds or where char

. >> jill abramson, the editor of the new york times, was allegedly being too aggressive and pushy.it a case of gender discrimination? >> big time. she had the characteristics of a great editor and many thought she was. the idea is a woman leans in and asks about pay and the differential, that is pushing to be fired, that is awful. >> given how much "the new york times" has pushed on equal pay. what is really striking is the way she was fired. not that women cannot do a bad job and get fired like men, the way she was pushed out. jayson blain, who fabricated stories, he was pushed out. they said nice things about him. and how he resigned for the good of the paper. in contrast, jill abramsom did not get to address the newsroom and they went out of their way to say she was fired and did a bad job. it's hard for me to believe that has no element. >> i think you are absolutely right. i have never seen something happen quite as badly. i want to tell you, i have been in this business for a long time, and i have never met a better journalist than jill abramson and she got a terribly raw dea

here waxman had to say. >> we're talking about jill abramson, she seems to symbolize something broader going on in the gender politics of high-achieving women. we are worried there's not enough women, opportunities for women to rise to the top. >> alexandra, thank you very, very much. this story has legs, as they say. >>> rutgers university today, graduation day. 400 grads showing love orrer grik legrande, the football player paralyzed in 2010. today, legrande graduated. the degree in labor relations. he was one of the commencement speakers telling fellow grads he's proof that anything is truly possible in this world. former new jersey governor tom keen also spoke. keen a last-minute replacement for condoleezza rice who pulled out of the ceremony after rutter. >>s students and staff protested her selection. >>> to politics now. the race that's long way from getting started and the candidate washington can't stop talking about, hillary clinton, she looms over the democratic feel as odds-on favorite. erin mcpike reports, most favorite status can also work against her. >> reporter: some t

for more on the story behind jill abramson's exit from the new york times, here's charlie rose's interview and a portion with ken auletta. reported that abramson's exit was due to a pay gap between her and her predecessor. >> jill abramson discovered several weeks ago that her pay is less than the person she succeeded. she finds out, she finds out that she is getting paid 500 -- her salary is 500 or $3000 per year. she goes to arthur and mark thompson and complains. payalso finds out that her -- she finds out that washington bureau chief, her pay was lower than the person -- >> is there any explanation for this? >> there are always explanations. in the case of the washington bureau chief it was phil. he was on the editorial board. he was making more money. >> i don't think that is a good explanation for why the comanaging editor -- >> you think someone does in the glare of the new york times would say we cannot afford to pay any sort of salary a woman has added that is less than a man. here is where the convocations begin. when you just compare salary and not total compensation you are com