really no use for him, other than to finally do something useful and that is to introduce general jim jones who many of you, if not all of you, not only know who he is but have worked with general jones for many years on many projects. i don't know of a wider lens thinker, not only in our government but in our country in the world today than general jim jones. i've had the opportunity and privilege to work with general jones on many occasions when he captured me out on a boat in the mediterranean for a couple days and made me sit through a lot of marines talking about a lot of things that an old army guy has no capacity to understand. but, nonetheless, i am a better man for it today. this man, jones, really does span the gamut and is really one of our country's greatest public servants. and as you well know today he is the president's national security advisor, he is still learning from brent an scowcrof, that's according to scowcroft, but, nonetheless, we talked very favorably about you today at lunch, jim, because fred had a table full of former national security advisors and we had bri s

jim jones, national security adviser, pushed back against the military and stanley mcchrystal's calls for additional forces. >> the end is more complex than just about adding x number of troops. it's better for military advice to come up through the chain of command and i think that general mcchrystal and the others in the chain of command will present the president with not just one option which does in fact tend to have a function but a range of options that the president can consider. >> nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski live with the latest. >> reporter: good morning. you know that attack over the weekend was one of the most fierce and deadliest battles for american forces in this entire afghanistan war. as you mentioned, those at least 100 or so foreign fighters and led by taliban it's believed, attacked this base with rocket propelled grenades and heavy machine gun fire. they held the high ground over that base probably installed their weapons over a three to four-week period so this was a very well planned attack. in the end, as you said, eight americans died

the more we will assumary not really serious about whatever we finally intend to do. >> general jim jones had this to say over the weekend about general stanley mcchrystal, a public push up to 40,000 new troops. let me play that. >> well, look. >> ideally, it's better for military advice to come up through the chain of command and i think that general mcchrystal and the others in the chain of command will present the president with not just one option, which does, in fact, tend to have a forcing function but a range of options that the president can consider. >> general, a couple of points he seems to be making there. but to start what seems to be a pretty public slap on the wrist for mcchrystal. is general mcchrystal trying to play politics here and influencing policy by coming out so publicly with his plan? >> no. remember, stan mcchrystal was asked to give his strategic assessment. and that assessment was leaked, which then made this whole debate public. and it's not clear the circumstances under which he made his remarks in london as to whether that was agreed by all in the room to be

. >> reporter: president obama's national security adviser, former general jim jones insisted that afghanistan is not in imminent danger of falling to the taliban and fired back at mcchrystal. >> what general mcchrystal has done is presented his opinion, is presenting his opinion of what he thinks his role within that strategy is. our strategy is a regional strategy. >> reporter: secretary gates has said he remains undecided on strategy and gave no hints today as far as towards which camp he is leaning. tomorrow president obama plans to meet with a bipartisan group of congressional leaders to talk about the war. he said the administration would brief leaders from both parties and key committee chairmen and also seek their opinions. >> claudia tonight. >>> according to the department of defense, there have been 779 u.s. military members killed in afghanistan since 2001. 220 of those deaths have occurred this year alone. dwagt also a deadly year, the dod reported 155 casualties. >>> election workers in afghanistan are pouring over ballots in an ongoing presidential rekounlt. the u.n. ordered a p

administration officials say they do have some time and that you had national security advisor jim jones, saying that he does not believe afghanistan is going to fall to the taliban. and he believes karzai's government, hamid karzai could actually pull this out eventually, however when you talk about deployment of troops it's important to know if you side with 40,000 troops you have to mobilize them and takes time to get them moving and get them in place by march, the next spot, when the taliban spring offensive happens every year and the mountain passes melt. you have to get moving within the next month. >> jamie: interesting this point about this timing and where to deploy to. great to see you, he's filling in for chris wallace and is the host of special report. check your local listings, don't miss this edition of fox news sunday. eric. >> eric: iran wants the bomb. that's what the experts say and the islamic republic could be closer to the goal than ever before. we'll have more on the threatening report from the world's nuclear watchdog throughout the morning. >> jamie: and young chi

advisor jim jones on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs "face the nation" with cbs news chief washington correspondent bob schieffer. and now from cbs news in washington, bob schieffer. >> schieffer: we begin in the studio this morning with general jones. general, thank you for coming. more bad news from afghanistan this morning. eight american troops killed in this latest attack. this as the white house is debating whether to send more troops to afghanistan. i want to begin by asking you about this meeting that the president had with general mcchrystal, our top general in afghanistan. he met with him in copenhagen. after the general basically shot down the idea of changing our strategy in afghanistan. two questions. first, did the president feel that the general was trying to bring pressure on him in public and did he tell him not to do that? >> well, bob, first, thank you very much for having me on. it's good to be back. secondly to answer your question, i wasn't at that meeting. this is a one-on-one meeting b

vice president biden and perhaps general colin powell and general jim jones and others are advising that the threat really remains now in pakistan, and that al qaeda is concentrated there, and that if we spend resources we don't have militarily in afghanistan at this point, to go after the taliban, when al cad da -- al qaeda is an international global terrorist threat, more pressing to our national o security, that he will blow a chance to get into pakistan at the right time, and take care of al qaeda where it's based, and that, i think, although there are political pressures from moveon and the left of his party, to be certain is, a huge challenge to weigh. i agree with charles that he laid out his own strategy and general mccrystal has come up with a plan for the mission that president obama outlined in march, but he is not just listening to rahm emanuel. he is listening to a chorus of voices who are concerned that pakistan is aware of where al qaeda is concentrated and we have to spend our resources there. jim: it was mid august when the president said this was not a war of choice. it

you're getting different indications that seem that the side backed by general colin powell, general jim jonesvice president biden, seems to be in control of the debate. but i don't think we'll know until we have a final answer. >> i'm looking at a tweet right now. at this point it's a crap shoot. if we pull back, we're cowardly. if we send more troops, we risk more lives. it's all out of hand. i'm sure there are many that might agree with that. let's change gears because we're learning that u.n. inspectors will get a look at the iran nuclear facility. iran's president says president obama will be sorry for questioning iran's attentions for the plan. what would happen about if inspectors go in there, find something they don't like and what if everything looks okay? >> i don't think president obama will be sorry for questioning the iranians who continue to lie year in and year out about their intentions to am mass nuclear -- it create nuclear facilities and nuclear fuels. they have spent a lot of money and a lot of time do this. locating this last facility in a place that could not be attacked.

>> i would say the same thing that jim jones said. this is not about troops. it's about strategy. got to get the strategy right. then you have got to get the american people behind it before you can go out and get the american people behind it, you have to have reviewed it. when he first put the troop reinforcements in he made the announce the three days after he took office and he didn't have his national security team on. i think we should be comforted by the fact that he is going to take a week of deliberations to work this. bill: i'm not comforted at all. i don't think mcchrystal is comforted either. i don't think any of the generals over there are comforted, general, huh-uh. >> i think mcchrystal understands what's going on. remember, mcchrystal is a nato commander. bill: they are not best pals right now. obama is mad at him. you know that? >> i don't think he is mad at him. mcchrystal is a nato commander. that speech he gave in london helps the president build support overseas. bill: here is the poll. send more troops to afghanistan 43% say yes. bring troops home 43% of amer

. >> the defense secretary seems to be taking the front line and also jim jones the national security adviser over the weekend saying very publicly that he disagree would the call for more troops. >> no questions. so, i think what you're seeing here is sort of a predicate being built up for the president to have a number of options at his disposal and reading between the lines and following everything that is happening. the president has not told his advisors which way he's leaning, but definitely giving him room to oppose in some degree the proposal that was put forth by general mcchrystal. sort of a timeline is building up and at the end of this we'll have all the things to piece together and he has a lot of options and he is trying to make that clear. >> how nervous are they about how the congressional budget office is going to score the senate finance bill because if it's not deficit neutral, it's a nonstarter. >> i think they are nervous about this. they threw this in once before earlier in the year and that, essentially, set back the message of health care and even the legislati

mcchrystal, was publicly rebuked over the weekend by president obama's national security advisor, jim jones. mccountries california gave a speech, saying any plan that falls short of stabilizing afghanistan is probably short-sighted. jones rebuked mcchrystal for speaking out of school. >> ideally, it's better for military advice to come up through the chain of command. and i think that general mcchrystal and the others in the chain of command will present the president with not just one option, which does, in fact, tend to have a -- you know, forcing function, but a range of options that the president can consider. >> by all accounts, president obama's decision on afghanistan is not going to be easy, unlike iraq, 98% of the afghans are ill literate. the country is one of the poorest on earth, and one of the stories that worked in iraq, such as dealing with tribal leaders are not a possibility in afghanistan. earlier today, defense secretary gates urged patience and backed up the comment from jones requesting that u.s. commanders give advice to the president in private. >> so it is important

>> i tnk jim jone and robbie manual t chief of sr are re step particular call of trul stall full, heavy commitment of additional troops. certainlmore so than in march. >> charlie: ins both of you are required to some othe scussion that are going in, reaching out so thathe white house reaching out to you guys, to try to express a point of viewwhere is the predent? can yotell anythg by his questions how he sees the circumstance >> i think -- look, he said publicly tt he's skeical. that is probably true not just a way of signaing to the left that he'sin to their concerns he genuinely is reluctant to go with the 40,000 troop increase, that sort of size ofthings. the initial surge, if you will of tros he sentarlier in the year 21,000, probably any president comi in would have done that. and sor of default try to staunch the bleeding and get elections in afghanistan secure. but now he's really coming fac to facwith the choice of what does he want to down afghanistan. what does he want his presidency to be about? if he makes this decision to send a substantial numr of additionalroops to afghan

report say that their findings have yet to be confirmed, but that the national security adviser jim jones addressed the report when asked about it. >> whether they know how to do it or not is a matter of conjecture. we had been worried about that intent. bill: watch for a new meeting in a few weeks with iranian leaders. the head of the u.n. watchdog group appeared over the weekend with iranian leaders, announcing new inspections currently scheduled to begin on the 25th of october, 20 days from now. patti ann: an american soldier died from injuries he received in a taliban bomb attack yesterday in afghanistan. this after a pair of attacks killed troops on sunday. the american commander, stanley mcchrystal, said that president obama received his request to send more troops to afghanistan but no decisions have been made. casey has a look for us at how the air force is getting high- tech help. >> from the flight deck it looks like your average airplane. from the belly of the beast you realize it is anything but. once the largest airplane in the world, it is still the largest in the air force

here he is, this is yesterday, the national security advisor jim jones, has the old kissinger job, traffic controls all policy debates. here he is saying it's unseemly for general mcchrystal to be campaigning. and then saying, you catch this, he says this in this speech here, on television the other day, that mcchrystal, instead of offering one proposal should be giving the president an array of options. here he is really sticking it to him for having a public position out there, and then sticking it to him, saying you owe the president more than one option. here he is, general jones. >> ideally, it's better for military advice to come up through the chain of command, and i think that general mcchrystal and the others in the chain of command will present the president with not just one option, which does, in fact, tend to have a -- you know, forcing function. but a range of options that the president can consider. >> how do you think of that, colonel? >> yeah, i think it's -- i think he's off the mark, too. he's absolutely right about the fact that the subordinate staff, and that includes

outside away and so we became the ld tloplt goin and rescuehe marine the marines with lieutenant jim jonesir calvary division mov into the kay son in early april. when it was obvious our battalion was going to bak the ege i was sent to a hill to set upç a ray site since i was the communications officer. so i got off the radio relay team. what i do not know is that one of the youngenç who hajust shown up icountry had loosened the pins on all his gnades on hiweb gear and he was a lking bomb. i don't think anybod else knew that. he got off to theground, dropped onof the grenades, i s live. i do n know it was live. as the chper turned around and lift off, i had my m-16 i my left hand, flak vest, i reaed downith my right hand to get it. within five inches of the grenade it went off. i should be dead. but i was so close tothe grenade th the flash burns sear my flesh. so i l there on th ground smokg, but i wasn't bleeding to death, actually, i was hurting massively, but my right arm wablown off, my right leg was blown off and myç left leg was blown offso badly that within an hour was amputated

the marines with lieutenant jim jones moving down the road and me, captain max cleland, in the air withit was obvious our battalion was going to break the siege i was sent to a hill to set upç a relay site since i ws the communications officer. so i got off the radio relay team. what i do not know is that one of the young menç who had just shown up in country had loosened the pins on all his grenades on his web gear and he was a walking bomb. i don't think anybody else knew that. he got off on to the ground, dropped one of the grenades, it was live. i do not know it was live. as the chopper turned around and lifted off, i had my m-16 in my left hand, flak vest, i reached down with my right hand to get it. within five inches of the grenade it went off. i should be dead. but i was so close to the grenade that the flash burns seared my flesh. so i lay there on the ground smoking, but i wasn't bleeding to death, actually, i was hurting massively, but my right arm was blown off, my right leg was blown off and myç left leg was blown off so badly that within an hour it was amputated. so the

jim jones was asked today if the u.s. can effectively monitor any such efforts of concealment between now and october 25th. general jones replies generally yes but he went on to say i think there's no substitute for inspections and verification and the fact iran came to the table and seemingly showed some degree of cooperation i think is a good thing. general jones declined to comment on the accuracy of the iaea document saying only whether iran knows how to manufacture a nuclear weapon or is not knot is a matter of some conjecture. >> thank you for the update. u.s. officials say it was one of the fearest battles since the war in afghanistan began almost eight years ago. eight american troops are dead after 300 militants swarmed remote outposts in a region known as a taliban strong hold. connor powell has more from kabul. >> connor. >> typically the taliban fight in small guerrilla mobile units. but u.s. military officials are calling this widespread attack complex and one of the most brazen attacks in recent memory. more

this was dangerous and people didn't learn from jim jones by hooking up this guy, james arthur ray, anothervidual. >> the guy, james arthur ray, i don't trust anybody with three names. >> i agree with you. >> lee harvey oswald, hello. james earl what's his face? >> james earl ray. maybe part of the same family. >> we have to analyze the facts. >> mary tyler moore. it just goes on and on. oh, god. thank you very much. >>> coming up, sam wurzelbacher, you may know him better as joe the plumber. >>> i'm getting ready to buy a company that makes $250,000, $270,000, $280,000 a year. your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it? >> if it's a small business, first of all, you get a 50% tax credit. so you get a cut on taxes for your health care -- you actually get a tax cut on that front. >> okay, everyone remembers that moment from the campaign trail when a new media star was born. he was adopted as an unofficial mascot for the gop. since then he's gone, pardon the expression, rogue. with me now, the man, himself, samuel wurzelbacher, aka, joe the plumber. what should i call you? >> my name

this was dangerous and people didn't learn from jim jones by hooking up this guy, james arthur ray, anothers arthur ray, i don't trust anybody with three names. >> i agree with you. >> lee harvey oswald, hello. james earl what's his face? >> james earl ray. maybe part of the same family. >> we have to analyze the facts. >> mary tyler moore. it just goes on and on. oh, god. thank you very much. >>> coming up, sam wurzelbacher, you may know him better as joe the plumber. >>> i'm getting ready to buy a company that makes $250,000, $270,000, $280,000 a year. your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it? >> if it's a small business, first of all, you get a 50% tax credit. so you get a cut on taxes for your health care -- you actually get a tax cut on that front. >> okay, everyone remembers that moment from the campaign trail when a new media star was borned. he was adopted as an unofficial mascot for the gop. since then he's gone, pardon the expression, rogue. with me now, the man, himself, samuel wurzelbacher, aka, joe the plumber. what should i call you? >> my name is samuel joseph wurz