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jim jordan of ohio joins me now. congressman, thanks for joining us. you were a yes vote today. the bill now goes to the senate. i want to play you something that senator john mccain, your party's 2008 nominee for president, told me just yesterday. >> in the united states senate, we will not repeal or defund obama care. we will not. and to think we can is not rational. >> he's saying you're not rational, congressman. >> well, i would just point out, jake, there were a lot of republicans just two weeks ago who said we were going to go to war with syria and today we're not. so look, when the american people get engaged, they have a way of making elected officials see the light, find the lord and do the right thing. this bill's the right thing. it funds the government, i don't see the democrats introducing a bill that funds the government. this bill funds the government and more importantly, it delays and stops a law everyone in the country, everyone knows is bad including the president who has delayed parts of it for big business, including james hopper, who called this thing a la

jim jordan joins us. >> good to be with you. >> what is the new information you have?stration said all along we didn't find out until may of this year when lois lerner gave her speech. jay carney said we learned when the inspector general unveiled his audit. we have documents now -- and we didn't get them from the irs. they are dragging their feet. we got them from the inspector general. we have documents may 30, 2012, a year ago. due to the sensitivity we are providing information identified during the planning of the audit. they briefed doug schulman, steve miller, the top people at irs and said this. exempt organizations director lois lerner was informed of criteria that specifically targeted applications using the words tea party, patriots and 912 project. may of 2012. >> just on the timeline, five months before the 2012 election. >> no kidding. we would have liked to know the information. >> and this is the phony scandal. the president is quite demeaning about it. continue. >> president said he didn't know about it. no one in his administration uh knew until sprin

jim jordan did a great job grilling admiral mullen. >> he said what?mullen sits in an an interview where charlene lamb didn't do well. he picks up the phone and says tell cheryl mills, hey, charlene lamb who will testify before congress, that might be a problem for you. >> if everyone came back under subpoena and answered the questions it could end. this is like pulling teeth. good to see you. >> thanks, greta. >> now an interview you will only see here. raleigh chance was wrongfully named by cbs and nbc as the navy yard killer of 12. imagine that. good to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> it is deplorable the networks did this. next time it could be my mistake. so i understand it, but they need to pay for what they did to you. >> okay. >> how did you first learn about the shooting? >> i received a phone call from the media. said basically that do you know rollie chance. they didn't realize they were talking to rollie chance. they went on to tell many -the perpetrator. then they were asking me how i was are elated to rollie chance. i clearly

tom graves and jim jordan are spearheading this push. you have two different factions breaking out within the house gop. >> i don't want to get too technical, tom, because we don't have enough time or whatever. i tried to convince senator cruz of this. i'm an old reagan green eye shade. i worked at the office of management and budget. you cannot use the cr, congressional resolution, you cannot use a continuing resolution to change entitlements. you just can't do it. the cr is about discretionary spending, nonentitlement spending, and the obama care has a lot of entitlements in it that's why i don't know why this argument is still ranging. here's what i know. i want to get your take on it. if the gop continues with this division and this defunding business, they're going to get into a hell of a lot of political trouble and the clock is ticking towards september 30th. >> when i talked to these guys i interviewed jordan and tom graves earlier this afternoon. they're less concerned about the vehicle and more concerned about starting the drum

congressman jim jordan joins us.nice to see you, sir. >> good to be with you. >> are you surprised that lois lerner retired? she's been on administrative uh paid leave since late may. >> not really. the irs is getting around to looking into disciplinary action against her. she decided instead to take retirement. she's been getting paid about $170,000. now she goes to retirement. my guess is she gets full benefits and probably will be paid approximately $100,000 a year. she decided to take retirement instead of facing disciplinary action from the irs. >> the review board didn't find she was operating with political bias but rather was neglectful of her duties. would that be your analysis from what you know? >> not at all. i was on yur show last week and we talked about how we know the chief counsel was briefed on this a year before it went public. somebody must have told geithner or it's malpractice. this was politically motivated. we have the numbers. the vast majority of the targeted groups were conservative groups

not republican jim jordan -- they said it was a train wreck.oward dean said it was going to lead to rationing of care. they said it is going to fundamentally hurt the work week, which it did. even the president knows this needs to be delayed. it was unpopular when not one single republican voted for it. it is even more unpopular now. this is unbelievable. we are going to hear from people in the frontline today who know how hard it is to try to implement this legislation. in ohio, seventh-largest state, not one single navigator has been trained by the ohio department of insurance, and we are 13 days away from the exchange starting. do you think this is going to work well? you don't think this needs to be delayed? of course it needs to be delayed, and the americans need to understand that. we are asking our colleagues to recognize that fact. this is about highlighting that fact. i did not read my statement. i just reacted to what we heard before. this is as clear as it gets. i have never seen something this obvious make this much common sense and

max baucus, democrat -- not republican jim jordan, not on this -- max baucus says it's a train wreck. howard dean said it will lead to rationing of care. not exactly republicans there. james robinson it will hard-working americans but it will finally change the 40 hour workweek which will and it's already doing that. even the president knows this bill needs delayed. that's why he delayed it for big business. we just want to say that life for the rest of america. it's unbelievable. it was unpopular when not one single republican voted for it and democrats passed the bill but is unpopular been. it's even more unpopular now. all we are saying is, this argument is unbelievable, i don't know the democrats have introduced a bill to fund the government. we're going to hear from people in the front line today who know how hard it is to try to implement this legislation to in ohio, think about this. headline in an ohio paper. in ohio, seventh largest a, 11 million people, not one single net the gator, not one -- single navigator. we are 13 days away from the exchange starting. not one. 720 sta

jordans? pam in illinois, please. pam. >> caller: hi, jim. thank you for taking my call. i really enjoy watching your program. >> thank you. >> caller: my question is in reference to bank of america. >> yeah. >> caller: i notice they're closing locations in my area. they're laying off employees in their mortgage division and they're being removed from the dow. i wanted your recommendation. >> the bank is under a lot of pressure because mortgages are going down. however -- i mean, the amount of mortgages and the re-fis. however, the bank group did really well today. there's no hurry to get out of bank of america. i just think bank of america is going to mark time. now, a lot of people don't want to mark time. they want to mark money, and it's not going to mark money. it's just going to mark time. jerry in florida, please. jerry. >> caller: hey, jim. boo-yah from sarasota, florida. >> oh, man. i love sarasota. never rains there. what's up? >> caller: my wife and i love watching your show, not to mention the great advice you give. >> thank you. >> caller: hey, i talked to yo

explain, as they flood the borders and they are leaving, jim, who is taking the most of the refugees? is it jordanctive to those trying to escape the country? >> reporter: before i get to that i want to add one thing quickly. off the top, if you do the imagine that is 7 million syrians wrenched from their homes. i learned this now. that is a full third of the population of syria. they are mostly spread, thomas, amongst the region in camps, some are in parks, some are living out in the street according to the u.n. most of them, some 715,000 are in neighboring lebanon. jordan has taken in more than 500,000 and iraq has close to 170,000 and egypt with all of its problems absorbing 110,000 syrian refugees. here in turkey, syrians have been streaming the last two and a half years of conflict and we are told the number is likely to strike if the u.s.-led air strikes take place. sources tell us nearby here inside the syrian side of the border, syrian families are now afraid to leave their homes behind, but even more afraid to stay behind for the possible air strikes. they are huddling now right on the bo

jordan is on a heightened state of alert. the sense here is that the middle east is once again bracing for war. veronica, back to you. >> jim, we appreciate the update, thank you. >>> moving now to washington, and the obama administration's hard sell of military intervention in syria. president obama is gearing up for the sixth network interviews he's taping this afternoon. it is all part of his full-court press strategy and ahead of a nationwide address tomorrow night. but a new moveon.org commercial is urging congress to reject the proposal. and it's apparently how congress is leaning right now as it returns from a five-week recess. in the house, 227 are against military action or leeing towards a no vote and 25 are for military action. 181 are undecided. >>> in the senate, 27 are against it. or leaning no. 23 in favor with 50 undecided. >>> nbc's priceline live for us in washington with details on that. good morning. lawmakers there facing a momentous vote in washington. >> reporter: right, very ron kachlt they're facing a key question as they come back today. what is the most vulnerable position? helping out al qaeda or

jordan is on a heightened state of alert. the u.s. embassy in lebanon has just pulled out all nonessential staff and their families. the whole region it seems is bracing for war. i'm jim the w7r turkish/syrian border. now back to you. >> okay, jim. thank you very much. president obama continues looking for support. he'll take it to the people, talking to the nation about that crisis in syria. this will happen tomorrow night in a primetime address. you can watch that right here on nbc bay area. that will start at 6:00 sharp. >>> moving on now to the business and tech world. facebook wants to be quoted in the news more often. >> cedindeed. so scott says it's going to make your posts available to certain news agencies. >> yeah, good morning. we in the news quote tweets all the time, right? president obama just tweeted that. we don't generally talk about what people post to facebook because facebook is a closed-off system. facebook would like to change that this morning, opening what you post publicly to certain news agencies, including buzzfeed and cnn and the "today" show. i suppose in the hopes that hoda and kathy lee will quote facebook more often. for instance, if cn

. >> nick robertson in jordan where they're obviously and totally understandably very nervous. the same happening in israel right now. jimining us from jerusalem. i know they've been mobilizing some reserves. what's the latest among the israelis? >> reporter: israelis are not only disappointed that president barack obama backtracked and delayed action against syria. they are worried what conclusions are going to be drawn in the rest of the region in damascus, in teheran. in a country that has been stocking up on gas masks and keeping its military on alert, many were actually startled by president obama suddenly pressing the pause button. ordinary people concluded that it was an awkward time to rethink the fundamentals. they worried about a lsz of confiden -- loss of confidence. loss of credibility. government officials were very quick to point out that all of this going to congress is part of u.s. democracy. government ministers, though, behind the scenes have been really warned to stay silent, stay on the sidelines as this vote goes ahead. people here will really brace for something else. nearly half of all israelis thi