. >> reporter: jim lewis, who's advised the pentagon and the white house on cyber defense, believes snowden's files are almost certainly in the hands of chinese and russian intelligence. >> the ability of a foreign, intelligence analyst to now sit down and look at this treasure trove of material on n.s.a. and >> the ability of a foreign and its budget on everything will give them a immense insight. >> reporter: so this is the kind of information they'd be happy to pay for? >> they would be happy to pay for it, steal, do whatever they took to get it. >> reporter: how do you put this genie back in the bottle? >> you don't. some of these things are over and what we have to do is rebuild. >> reporter: now, al qaeda has not gone completely silent and that's good news. analysts say it is a must for any terror group-- including al qaeda-- to communicate. scott, as long as they're talking in some form the u.s. has some ability to keep track of them. >> pelley: bob orr in our washington newsroom, thanks, bob. alex rodriguez goes to bat to try to save his career. are parents causing outbreaks of whoopi

it was about two months ago that jim lewis, the district -- the u.s. district attorney came by my office with colin bruce. we talked about a number of things and then he said incidentally, i don't know what i'd do without colin bruce. he is such an extraordinary first assistant. when he finished his presentation, i said, jim, would you stick around for a minute. i said, jim, i have got an opening for a judge here. and i know colin is a person who would fill that bill. he has already gone through all the vetting. he would be an extraordinary judge, but you'd lose him as your first assistant. he said, i can't stand in his way. i couldn't think of a better choice to be a judge in this district. colin bruce was born in urban u, illinois. he got his undergraduate and law degrees degrees from the university of illinois. he handled civil and criminal cases and tort cases and claims filed against the government. in 2007 appointed branch chief of the urbana division. 2010 first assistant u.s. attorney which is the number-two position. in his current capacity he

jim lewis is the director and senior fellow of public policy. first these leaks, jim.e known all this. particularly angela merkel. if you're talking on a cell phone you have to expect people are listening in. this shouldn't have been a surprise. >> let's listen real quickly to what senator marco rubio told cnn's "new day" yesterday. >> if you are a u.s. government official traveling abroad, you are aware that anything you have on your cell phone, your eipad be monitored. a lot is for the domestic con sujs of their own public. at the end of the day everyone knew there was gambling going on in casablanca? >> yeah, everyone spies on everyone. but the cardinal rule in espionage is don't get caught. we're in a different game than we were before. when you're caught out you have to do something different. you can stonewall or apologize. when we are a free country that has their western freedoms and all these ideal ls. we were talking about, it's not very clear. what we're talking about dozens, perhaps hundreds of leaders, the heads of countries being listened to by the nsa. s

. >> reporter: cyberexpert jim lewis says it's not easy for the u.s. to access these systems.can take a combination of sfilan surveillance, hacking and human agents. >> once you acquire them you milk them for all they are worth and when they switch it could take months to access it. >> reporter: he said, look. al qaeda go away from channels. sometimes other things happen in the world that force them back on to channels that the u.s. intelligence community has better access to. he says it's going to be at least six months before they know that al qaeda has lost confidence in that particular channel. chris lawrence, cnn, washington. >> thank you, chris. >>> there is new hope for some women dealing with infertility. recharging and then reimplanting ovarian tissue to produce healthy eggs. stanford researchers used a process where they took an ovary or a piece of ovarian tissue and nurtured it outside of the body, then reimplanted it. of the 27 volunteers, five produced viable eggs and one is pregnant and another gave birth to a healthy baby. >>> california's whooping could have ou

lewis' giant fist. nobody seems to like this thing. why, i can't say for sure. does it honor a man who behaved well, observed all the cardinal rules of jimw? malcolm x met cassius clay here in 1962 at a lunch net. -- luncheon net. maybe you saw the photo of them. joe lewis, the tan tornado, didn't pay no mind to young cassius clay even later after ali whupped sonny liston. nobody likes a misbehaving black man, even when he's right. in 1967 ali said, man, i ain't got no quarrel with them viet cong. suspended from the ring, ali would come around again. in belle isle trees testify to urban blight, and i am trying to locate the history of my fear. the chairs of our dining set are made from fruitwood trees, chairs hand crafted in italy bequeathed to us by my mother-in-law who bought the set from hudson's. tree branches, foliage, roots and vines, everything is spreading across america. let me honor this woman who hands me a bean cake and the woman she was in 1967 giving birth to my wife. let me bless this car containing our picnic through belle isle across the detroit river and the long drive back to where the past is heaped and folded like an

jim crow south. ourdon't forget to read october book club selection, walking with the wind. congressman john lewisthe early years of the civil rights movement. /bookclub. coolidge was grace also known as the first lady of baseball. >> being in massachusetts and vermont, they were big boston red sox fans. washington,nt to they had little allegiance to the local team down there, the washington senators. we have a number of the season passes she was given by the american league. usually, they were issued to her in a wallet or a pocket book. some of those pocket books are wonderful art deco in style. is thethe exhibits certificate she was given by the boston red sox and the washington nationals, as they were called. they designated her first lady of baseball. --watch our program on verse on grace coolidge at our website or see it saturday at 7 p.m. eastern. we continue our series live monday. >> "washington journal" continues. we are joined at the desk by minnesota -- minnesota congressman keith ellison. democrats were invited to the white house to talk about these issues. what did you come away from