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carl will be there all day to talk more about that for more on this topic, let's bring in jim stewartmnist jim, this is a potential quagmire for any of these companies, just the idea of regulation will it come, what will it look like what do you think? >> well, i think we need to step back a little bit from sort of the political haze over all of this to say, first of all, what is the problem and then, two, what is the solution, if any. >> if you had an answer to that, that would be impressive. >> when i hear people talk about let's regulate them like a utility, i think, whoa, why? i don't get that at all. there are two major kinds of problems there's the fake news, the fake -- you know, the nonexistent person, the interference issue, and then there's the privacy issue where people are concerned about using the data the data thing -- >> and then there's the first amendment issue or the bias issue about how in fact these algorithms are working that's going to be taken up today. >> how is it a first amendment it's a private -- >> but you're hearing the president, president trump, say spe

space and security detail remain on the network's dime meantime, in his "new york times" column jim stewart be on the hook for severance of $120 million to mr. moonves jim joins us now post nine to explain. you've been on it, you're still on this story. i love it. many people thought okay, there's no way he'll see that money at the end of this investigation, jim because it will prove he did, in fact, do these things but you point to something a bit different in terms of what has to be proven. >> exactly it's kind of mind-boggling that under the circumstances you would pay somebody this kind of money given there have been 12 women that came forward but you look at ceo contracts, they were carefully written and he gets that money unless he's fired for cause. cause doesn't mean allegations of sexual misconduct, it refers to violations of cbs policy but that means any of this stuff that happened before he came to cbs is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his contract so the other key provision is did he fully cooperate with any internal investigation that will be the key thing did he tell wh

. >> i'm going to pulitzer prize winning jim stewart's piece.uys, i'm fighting to say something other than unstable. because it's tv. if when we go to a commercial i'll tell you what i think this behavior is, which is the behavior of a man who -- should not be running a public company. >> i think that's the strongest i've heard you on tesla. >> i remember some chief accounting officers in another day who quit who got in trouble >>well, this guy was there for a month. >> yeah, but what does it say? >> again, the next day his ceo said we're going try to take the company public at a number i picked out of the air and it sounds like a decent number and he said it was secured funding but he didn't really have it but it would have converting most of the public shareholders to private and a couple of weeks later we're not doing it. >> we saw these kinds of things. we did and my first book i said accounting irregularities equal sell i remember the top guy from in order -- nortel quit i said they have a vision. oh, yeah it was a bad vision. is this a goo

. >>> joining us at post nine, pulitzer prize winning "new york times" columnist jim stewart who co-wrotefamous interview with mr. musk. let's start from the top what do you think about all this >> i'm flabbergasting on several levels, first of all that it wasn't just the funding secure that turns out not to be correct but virtually every single thing he tweeted according to the s.e.c. was false and materially false. number two if the settlement deal really was that we're going slap you on the wrist and you step down as chairman for two years, that's a great deal i cannot fathom why they would have walked away from that. >> it was real i'm pretty confident in my reporting. >> i totally trust you. >> and jim everybody agrees with you except mr. musk, i guess i'm utterly astonished they would have turned down a deal like that. and finally when he gives his e reply that i'm full of integrity and the board says he's full of integrity, what is their defense? the s.e.c. complaint essentially quotes musk admitting virtually all the material facts he is the major source for the complaint. they ob

. >> some form of timeout is appropriate here, if you believe jim stewart's excellent reporting, probably musk's interest, the company's interest and shareholders' interest doesn't mean he has to be out forever, be an adviser on strategy, science, and after a timeout, may come back in any number of roles. but for right now, the path forward, unless they want a repeat of arthur anderson, and many examples of companies that end up suffering much worse damage than they needed to, if we want to avoid that outcome for tesla, then everybody needs to work to find mr. musk an acceptable way to stand down some period of time. >> uber is a great model for them by contrast. >> we have to go great conversation thank you both >>> when we return, wrapping up a rough quarter for facebook stock down 14% for the period. on track for the worst quarterly performance since 2012 that's the year facebook went public >>> amazon stock has risen every day, up 5%, and snap hit a record low xtitir of tech analysts join us ne wh the outlook for the rest of the year after the break. feel that? that's the beat of glob

right now does not look good personally, i'm still reeling from that "new york times" interview by jim stewartound like he needed to take some sort of medical leave. the man is not well. again, at the end of the day execution is everything in this business a company with great ex-kooks will likely see its stock go higher if your ceo seems to be losing, you can expect to be finished by the stock and the bond market. chris in kansas, chris >> caller: how you doing, jim? >> i'm great the birds won last night what's going on? >> caller: hey, i'm a new investor i just want to let you know first off i really enjoy your show. >> thank you. >> caller: i have a two-part question here. one, what do you think of the cronos stock and two, do you think with elon musk doing what he did on his podcast with the supposed smoking the marijuana and the new revelation of the air force looking into it, do you think that's going to hurt the marijuana stocks >> no, i don't think it will hurt the marijuana stocks. cronos, look, i've been saying that canopy is the one i feel most comfortable with why, because a very h

that's the core of the issue here transparency and privacy will play at the issue here we have jim stewartw he sees this playing out what is the good news potentially and the bad news for shareholders we have two representatives on the house energy and commerce committee where those ceos will be testifying. we'll talk with bill johnson, republican from ohio and democrat from vermont, pete welch. we'll talk about the issues, the questions they'll have for those ceos >> i don't know if they're media companies or not but imagine if cnbc had an hour of open mic night at 11:00, and we allowed random people to come forward and do 30 sebs s forward and do 30 sebs econds o what they wanted we could probably be held responsible for what they said it wasn't us, it was him i wonder if we'll see that push back against what others are posting. >> i think you will. this goes back to a 1984 or something lawsuit, that co compuserve lawsuit who said we are just a bulletin board. so much of how people learn information now comes through these companies. it's hard not to consider them media companies. >>> an

in the early days of the investigation for more on the story let's bring in "new york times's" jim stewartr great to have you. the last time i spoke with you you had written the article with colleagues after interviewing elon musk after all of this had happened i'm curious, did the s.e.c. contact you? were they looking for tapes in any way? >> no, i haven't heard a word from the sesk. we are journalists, not law enforcement. there needs to be a strict church and state there if they want to know things we know we put it the newspaper and they can do what they want with it i did find his statement today -- first of all the charges are amazing to me because it wasn't just like one or two of the tweets were false. it was like every single one that day had materially false information on it. which to me then -- and then his response i think is troubling in that it seems a little bit delusional if you read the s.e.c. complaint, almost all the evidence they cite for the fact that it was false came from the interview with elon musk he is quoted all over in there having told them, no i never talked

these are signs of a couple of interviews that jim stewart gave that perhaps there are something right. i know that this behavior and i like the word he chooses is erratic because erratic is not so damming erratic behavior of a man who head as company that's so uniquely to him is not something you want to have happen. >> you were even as recent as last week we are saying this is not the behavior of someone who should be running. >> medical leave is fine i think the board puts him on medical leave. that's not a sin it is just -- it could be a good thing. i am worried about the guy i am really am this is behavior and self destructive behavior that he's exhibiting it is so obvious to the physiatrist community. no one cares because he's a gener genius but even genius should be protected. >> ideas for executives for this company. >> in terms of calming things down obviously a great beard would be good to have i think that -- honestly, it is no sin to admit that the erratic behavior should be cool or maybe some time off. forget the next three months for the model three. let's get this guy he

there's a great story in "the new york times" by jim stewart about how the decision was made by the cbst there was a cover-up, there were lies, and then they finally faced the reality of what was going on with your former leaders. >> well, i agree with you and i appreciate you saying this. it's tough to see your company's name with the word in front of it besieged. that's very difficult. but there are a lot of talented, hard-working people here. i say heads up and onward. but it is difficult, it say scandal, we're going through it. but as you said, our values and our core is very, very strong. and we're eating into time talking about your book. >> okay. but you two women, what's your feeling about this? not john, but you two because this is about the treatment of women in a way that is truly outrageous. and i think this society is not going to stand for this anymore. >> i agree. >> and, i mean, again, look at how this was exposed. "the new yorker" magazine. the los angeles times. and confidential sources. people who were willing to be trusted and so there's a connection to all that's go

jim stewart was talking about you regulate content should google and alphabet be there? why? you know, i'm not saying it's a witch hunt, but i find it very hard to try to figure out whether google did stifle anybody's speech i think google is far more of a utilitarian product and less of a content product. david, do you disagree >> no. i suppose not. i mean, it's a bit of a different animal, i suppose. you know, in terms of the way the platform is used. >> right. >> it's not communication. but search results are important in terms behalf you're looking for and what you surface and whether or not they, in some way, i mean, it's the algorithm. they'll tell you over and over agai again. >> true. facebook and alphabet are two of the most powerful companies i've ever seen. >> yes. >> and amazon. these are countries. these are unregulated countries and there are people in washington who seek to regulate them the print media wants to regulate them. everybody, i think, to a degree, is jealous of them not twitter. jack dorsey, i think, is along for the ride i've never seen a concentra

offers a olive branch that's it the end of ma are they'll martha stewart you i think jim mentioned that -- squawk on the street that said, we are finding out. 2807 has been the line in the sand we are below that now. tim has been right i don't know what the premium -- but i think we'll find out in a very real way i don't think there is any way you can buy the stock without knowing the outcome of this stuff. >> top holders have been lightening up on positions you have seen that in the last filing i know filings. >> from a risk management how can you not. >> you don't vacate. >> you can't hold we with whatever is is coming. you it's 244 i think the stock gets cut in half ultimately you are looking at a 150 or 160 if he is gone if these headwinds pace the way they are, i know it sounds cat a chris mick. >> how come is wasn't this is a benign selloff given the news. >> and given the volatility for the stock itself. >> we were here two weeks ago exactly this price. >> what does that tell you that we are back to two-week levels. >> exactly i don't think that big a deal. i mean i think people

stewart. back to you. >> we have the zone flooded down there. jim and half the news room down there covering this thing tonight. all right. .hould be great to wat thanks, ji we'll check back in a bit. >> thank you, jim. >>> chopper 4 busy over a traffic mess this mornin a tractor trailer overturned and ught fire in the mixing bowl in springfield. the driver lost control while trying toxit on to 395 northbound. the crash blocked thexit ramp. the driver was not seriously injured, and noer vehicles were involved. >>> investigators believe a medical emergency caused a deadlyccident involving a hearse. it happened this morning at the intersection of old branch avenue andn allent road and camp springs. police believe the driver lost control hitting a utility pole. there was no other vehicles involved. the hearse was empty at the time. >>> residents want to know what on earth is happening on banning road. >> police cou seven shootings in less than a week there along a short stretch of the street. the latest one caught on camera. >> news 4 pat collins shows

there was a somewhat -- a ceremony that included dave stewart, rollie fingers, reggie jackson, rickey henderson, and the late jim catfish hunter. also the late former team owner charlie fidler. inductees were given their green jackets and each of them or their families or their families had a two -- had a chance to address the crowd. >> i'm thankful that the fisher family came along to make sure this ballpark is built and make sure the oakland a's stay here in the east bay. it is a great way to celebrate our great players, honor our history and all of the excitement of a's baseball. >> reggie jackson. they plan to adopt four or five new members into the hall of fame every year. >>> the giants have the night off. last night they were in colorado playing the rockies. look at that. the giants ended up losing 5 - 3. >>> first it was millennium tower building that was sinking in san francisco. now another high-rise is shifting. up next, what residents are demanding as the city tries to make sure their apartments are safe. >>> it is the final round of questioning for the sukanaugh a response to a question about the pr

stewart. >> the campaign nasty at times, and, of cose, so much reinvolves around president trump who we heard a lot from, and jim handly is where the candidates take the stage tonight,handly? >> reporter: this is their largest audience so far face to face. this is the statewide televised live debate at 7:00. you should know corey stewart has a 19-point deficit and trails in fund raising. i talked to tim caine, senator caine, just moments ago, about an hour ago, asking if he thought brett kavanaugh should step down, withdraw hisname. he said the hearings should go forth tomorrow. likely we'll hear kavanaugh's name tonight. mo assuredly, president trump's name will come up, corey stewart called himself trump before trump. you can bet the w presidentl be topic one in this debate tonight at 7:00. you can watch it on our nbc washington app. we're live atap theal one headquarters, news 4. y. o reminder because of the debate, there's a change in programming and nbc nightly news with lester ho start you wanted to save on prescriptions... so you went online... and got so lost in a mumbo-jumbo of co-pays, coupons and code

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