stick around, let's get back to jim walsh, u.p.s. pros we would get to jim again, a little late getting to you jim, but appreciate you staying with us. >> absolutely. >> your thoughts now on the evidence that seems to be coming together? and the idea that it looks as though according to the vice president, that this plane was shot down. >> yeah. so -- part of it is just circumstantial. the plane breaks up in midair, it breaks up in midair, so how does that happen. >> it happens over a conflict zone, in which a transport plane was shot down at 20,000 feet, five days earlier. so that seems to be pretty leading, you were talking to david chuter, we will have a variety of evidence here. there will be satellite, there will be signals intelligence. what you heard from the ukrainian personals. we will let nato and the u.s. weigh in on this, again, heavily watched one of the most heavily watched spots in the world, they saw there's evidence they may have. a variety of different pieces of evidence. e'm worried aability the integrity of this cr

. >>> and we want to turn now to jim walsh, he is a research associate at mit. d jim the early reports say these planes were brought down by shoulder-launched man pads. and that seems consistent with the u.s.'s believe that the previous mill sill launchers are have now been moved. >> yes. these jet fighters were at much lower altitude. ukraine, a state, a government has an air force, the rebels don't have an air force, so how are they trying to counter balance that, by using these shoulder-launch missiles. >> this all began in november. when we talk about rebels, are we talking about a rag tag group of people that have some rifles and are now taking on the ukrainian military. >> i think it's the latter. i don't think this would be much of an army. the ukraine army wasn't much either, but at least they are a government army with planes and tanks and training and professional soldiers, however troubled this might be. this is just a group of non-state actors, but they both material support and training support from russia, and there are -- as we have seen reports of

from cambridge, massachusetts, it is jim walsh, an expert in international security and the researchociation at the massachusetts institute of technology security studies program. good to see you as always. >> good to see you. happyforth. >> happy fourth to you. a year has passed since president mohamed morsi was ousted from offi. the violence and uncertainty continue. was egypt ready for the arab spring? >> well, yes. you know, they have had military rule since 1952, since the revolution. so, many, many decades of authoritarian rule, something had to happen at some point. bur i would say they were not fully prepared. there were some aspects of democracy egyptians are terrific at. peaceful protests. voting, they have done a great job with voting. what they have done a terrible job of on both sides is power sharing. one side wins and election and wants to get rid of all of the other side and declare that they are i will legitimate. democracies cannot work without power sharing. >> you have a in that government under sisi who has vowed to crack down on rebel yon. are we poised foanothe

jim walsh, with m. t study programs showing to rah shill carry in the studio. >> there has always been violence since the fall of qaddafi. it has escalated in the last month. what drives this, three things, the airport has come under fire so they have shutdown. that sort of closes off an exit avenue that they had to move people out quickly, plus the violence is getting closer to the embassy, and it's increasing in tin tense a tense at thisint. the u.s. had evacuated and turkey also. >> all those things are good reasons to get out. >> yes. >> but is it also the u.s. being extremely cautious, erring on the side of caution because of what happened at the cons lot? >> you don't know unless you are listening in on those phone calls or getting the traffic back and forth. the memos in the embassy. of course you would have to think that. but, again, i would say the u.s. is not the first one out here, right, there are others that have already moved out. and they are offense reluctant to leave places. but i would

jim walsh, thank you. coming up in our next half hour, a live report from baghdad. >> scary moments in philadelphia with a propane tank exploding on a food truck. the security camera captured the blast. a mother and daughter were working inside the truck. they're in the hospital in critical condition. the fireball caused a utility pole on the other side of the street to cash fire, two passing cars also bursting into flames. >> kentucky striking down the ban on gay marriage, saying it violates the constitutional rights of same sex couples, but the decision put on hold pending appeal. that means gay couples still have to wait before any license can be issued. >> 50 years ago this week, three civil rights activists were murdered by the ku klux klan in mississippi. they were just some of the casualties during a historic drive to register black voters. we look back at the episode and its lasting legacy. >> deborah delgado who sits on the city council of the town of hattiesburg was 12 when she spent the summer o

jim walsh back with us. how are you, jim?rning. >> good morning. >> overseas travelers not domestic true? >> that is right. that is the good news. >> does this surprise you? they are picking up something they don't want to get through. >> this is the latest in a series of reports we have had. earlier in the year tsa told airlines to pay more attention to possible explosives in shoes, toothpaste and bottles. there were warnings that something is something down to pike and syria fell apart and there were intel reports about bomb designs they maybe working on. then the latest announcement. you are right to underline this is flights most likely from specific airports in europe to the united states. so it is really only going to be a limited number of flights. but if you are on a family vacation in europe this summer and returning them it is important you pay attention to this. as someone who went through the procedure at the white house or another building it takes time. >> if you power the device up what does that prove? answer

. >> let's turn to jim walsh, joining us this morning from massachusetts. jim, the u.s. saying the plane was shot down with a russian made as i say mile. ifs russians themselves didn't do it, who did and would they need special training to do so? >> well, i think that you would bet on the rebels, the ukrainian rebels and yes, they would require training, as early interview suggested this morning, these are complex systems involving radar, multiple missiles, required multiple people to handle the system. it requires training. either the russians, assuming this was fired by the rebels, that's the assumption, that either the rebels got training from the russians, and or the possibility is that there are russian nationals who are part of the rebel group, who directly participated in this. both those possibilities are live. >> i want to cu cut to the chasn this system being monitored. from what you know about the national security apparatus in washington, d.c., with a missile system this large, is this something the united states frequently monitors and if so, do we know this

. >> we want to go now to jim walsh, a security associate with m.i.t. security studies program.want to go to the breaking news we have followed this morning, reports that two more planes were shot down by russian rebels. our reporter saying that man pads were used. describe these and how low would this plane have been flying as opposed to malaysia airlines flight 17. >> i think that's exactly the right question to ask, because you have to draw a distinction between surface to air missiles which are fairly activity indicated, can reach planes at heights greater than the malaysian plane was shot down where as man pads, shoulder fired missiles are dangerous but are not going to reach into that altitude. they often are used to try to get planes traditionally as they take off or are landing when they're most vulnerable. this is not an s.a.11, but still is a dangerous weapon. it appears as if they are continuing to be supplied to the rebels, and then one of the questions in my mind is if this conflict is ever settled, what happens to those man pads? are they sold on the black markets

jim walsh is an expert with m.i.t. security studies program and joins us now from boston. jim, they say they tested this on an a 737 and it worked deflecting a missile somehow. should this program potentially be expanded? i have bad news. this is not the magic wand that's going to solve this problem. this program developed some years ago in response to an attack on israeli civilian aircraft by terrorists using shoulder-launched missiles that were heat seeking missiles. what happened this week, these are radar guided highly sophisticated missiles produced by russia. and that system would not have prevented what we saw today. >> you were talking about the 2002 el-al situation in mombasa, kenya, where islamic terrorists apparently tried to shoot down an el-al or an israeli harter plane taking off in the south of kenya. but i mean, jim, that's more of a concern. you've got isis in iraq. you've got syria and there are reports all these stinger type missiles are out there. i mean, is there a possibility that this has been the worry for some time that the terrorists can get ahold

. >> we lost him, my jim walshs.ll try to get back to scott in a moment here. >> and then he is the counter terrorism. thank you for your time. we are learning now from the vice president, and from some of the senator whose have come out of a briefing that all of the evidence seems to be pointing to the fact that this airline was commercial airline. was shot down, what are your thoughts and is that your conclusion as well. >> no. i haven't seen the evidence that is presented to the senators but up until now, all of the circumstantial evidence is pointed in the direction of this aircraft having been shot down by a long range ground to aramisle. and there's yet more circumstantial evidence in that i understand that the u.s. military authorities have reported as far back a the 30th of june, that they had evidence to the effect that russians were providing training to ukrainian separate its on vehicle born systems like the sort that would have been necessary to take down an aircraft like this from the ground. >> would u.

. >> joining us on site is jim walsh, research associate with mit research studies.appreciate your insight. three years after the revolution, it's never a good sign when you have to shut down embassies. >> absolutely. >> never a good sign. how unstable is libya right now? >> i think it's pretty bad. this has been -- there has always been violence since the fall of kadalf. i. we have seen it escalate in the last couple of months. in particular, this last month. three things: one, the airport has come under fire. they have shut down the airport. so that sort of closes off an exit avenue. >> sure. >> if they had to move people out quickly and the violence is getting closer to the embassy and increasing in intensity, the number of casualties per day. >> that's what the left the u.s. really no choice. the u.n. had already evacuated. turkey had already evacuated. >> those things are good reasons. >> yes. >> to get out. but is it also the u.s. being extremely cautious,ering on the side of caution because of what happened at the consulate? >> you don't know unless you are li

. >> mit's jim walsh, the international community is pushing for proper access in crain.ighting is preventing investigators from assessing the site. the dutch government has sent 40 unarmed military police as well as forensic specialists to ukraine but they had yet to actually get to the site. the plane was carrying 298 passengers and crew, mostly dutch when it was shot down last week. everyone on board was killed. the u.s. said russia has fired into ukraine targeting the military position. the state department announcing thursday they had evidence that russia is planning to deliver more fire power to separatist forces in ukraine. meanwhile, the european union imposed its first set of sanctions including travel bands and freezing assets of some top russian officials. russia says the sarns will hamper cooperation. there are reports of heavy fighting in donetsk, separatist stronghold purportedly heavy art illery fire trying to retake the city. >> fighting has forced hundreds of thousands of people to flee their homes. barnaby phillips has that story. >> the people of donets

. >>> now we go to jim walsh, a research with mit programme, joining us from watertown massachusetts. it's a pleasure to have you here with us in the morning. do you believe there's a cover up going on here? >> i think you'd have to bet yes. i mean we don't know for sure. part of the reason we don't know is they won't allow people on the ground. that's a good indicator, right. the o.s.c.e. is trying to gain access, didn't get far. there was a warning shot fired when they stopped to look at a piece of wreckage. my guess is we are in cover up mode. they'll drag it out. they have started to move the bodies. they said they'd give the black boxes to the russians if they found them. i think this is about delay, hoping that the crime scene deg raids and at the end the day it will not change the conclusion but they can create uncertainty. that's what they are up to now. >> effectively you are saying it's purposeful, and you bring up an issue of denial. it's an issue of access, the fact that russia want to be part of this indicating that joout yin is worried about the outcome. >> it was a clev

joining us live in studio is jim walsh, research associate with m.i.t.'curities studies program. it's a pleasure to have you here. >> good to see you in new york. secretary kerry is now in paris trying to broker the cease-fire and he had this to say while he was in cairo. let's take a listen to that. >> we still have some terminology in the context of the framework to work through. we believe that seven days will give all the parties the opportunities to step back from the violence and focus on the underlying causes, perhaps take some steps that can build confidence and begin to change the choices for all. >> so he talks about terminology. so what type of terminology do you think would be acceptable to israel? >> i hope he's right, number one. it's great we have a pause now. you hope a pause leads to another pause. i'm skeptical because i don't believe the fundamentals are there. a lot of folks don't realize that the israeli military's structured differently than the u.s. military. in the u.s. we have a full-time professional military. israel relies on sc

interviewing prominent exiles and leaders and participants in operation pedro pan, including monsignor walsh and jim baker. these, together with oral histories, are archived in the cuban living history collection housed here in the special collection. growing interest for operation pedro pan in miami also produced a ripple effect. interest grew on the island as well. in 1996, the revolutionary film producer, whose brother frank had left cuba as a pedro panist in 1963 when he was 10 years old, produced a documentary which consisted of a series of interviews with cuban-american women who had been pedro pan children. the documentary examined the emotional toll the experience of separation had on these women's lives. however, despite recognizing the material well-being and success these women achieved in the u.s., the documentary portrayed these women as suffering still and struggling to understand the role played by the u.s. government in stimulating the children's exodus. this transnational contest between competing collective memories of operation pedro pan reached a peak between 1998 and 2000 when w

the tip came when someone saw him on john walsh's new tv show. jim axelrod has more. >> all of a sudden there were a barrage of police cars with officers in the blackjack cets. >> reporter: shortly after 1:00 p.m. monday, members after fugitive task force enter add smoke shop on this busy street to serve an arrest warrant on 32-year-old charles mozdir wanted after fleeing child sex charges in california two years ago. >> a gun battle ensued. he fired upon the officers at very close range and the officers returned fire. >> reporter: mozdir was killed in the firefight. two u.s. martials and one nypd detective were wounded and rushed to a local hospital. all three are listed in stable condition and expected to make full recoveries. >> i can say on behalf of all 8.4 million new yorkers that we appreciate their bravery, their strength, their decisiveness. >> he proceeded to tell me that charlie had touched him inappropriately. >> reporter: on sunday night mozdir was the subject of cnn's new series "the hunt." the show like john walsh's previous program "a

jim sciutto. "the hunt with john walsh" begins right now. >>> back in 1981, i had the american dream, the beautiful wife, the house in the suburbs, and a beautiful 6-year-old son. and one day i went to work, kissed my son good-bye, and never saw him again. in two weeks, i became the parent of a murdered child and i'll always be the parent of a murdered child. i still have the heartache. i still have the rage. i waited years for justice. i know what it's like to be there waiting for some answers, and over those years, i learned how to do one thing really well. and that's how to catch these bastards and bring them back to justice. i've become a manhunter. i'm out there looking for bad guys. >> i hope you're having a great day. i miss you so bad. can we please just be together. i'll make you happy, i promise. i have to go now. i love you, baby. ♪ >> my supervisor called me to report we had just been notified of an escape from the halfway house. >> for stoeser, it's young girls. pubescent, 13, 14, that is his fixation. >> baby, i miss your voice and i miss talking to you. i wish you were here right now

and before i go to nick paton walsh, i'm told, jim sciutto, that you have new information now. what are you hearing? >> anderson, and this is one of those key questions. but i'm told by ukrainian officials that will are indications that the plane came apart at altitude and that, i think, gels with the picture taz we're seeing from the ground which is that a scattered debris field, relatively small pieces of debris. but that would, again, just a clue, not conclusive, give more evidence of a strike at altitude that the plane would have blown apart and then come to pieces up there and then fall into the ground. that ukrainian official telling me that there are indications that the plane came apart at altitude, disintegrated at altitude, which is yet another clue of fairly alarming possibility, that this plane may have been shot down. >> and again, some 295 people on board that plane. lieutenant colonel rick francona is with us. what jim was saying that the plane came apart at altitude, does that mean that it separated in the air? >> this would be the result of an explosive event.

jim sciutto. "the hunt with john walsh" begins right now. >>> back in 1981, i had the american dream, the beautifuls, and a beautiful 6-year-old son. and one day i went to work, kissed my son good-bye, and never saw him again. in two weeks, i became the parent of a murdered child and i'll always be the parent of a murdered child. i still have the heartache. i still have the rage. i waited years for justice. i know what it's like to be there waiting for some answers, and over those years, i learned how to do one thing really well. and that's how to catch these bastards and bring them back to justice. i've become a manhunter.

want to get to boston now, and tim walsh, he is an expert at the massachusets institute of technology, security studies program. jim, always great to talk to you. i will start with you here, and then pick up our conversation on the top of the hour. could it surprise you that the pro-russian separatist would be able to get their hands on a system hike the bok system? >> it does, and for the reason we have seen today, that they could mess it up, and take down a liner. now as we have known for weeks now, the russians have been supplying tanks and armors vehicles and other equipment, when you start to get into ground to aramisles you crossing into a different category all together. your thoughts on do you believe that the evidence the bits and pieces coming together, hooking at the debris field, to you conclude that this was -- we heard a lot of disclaimers and cav yets from the vice president. do you believe that this malaysia airline flight was shot down? >> normally i am a cautious guy, i am leaning forward on this, yeah, it was shot down. and i say that -- partly because obviously it broke up in air, an airplane ca

jim thank you. already tough senate race got a lot tougher this week for montana's incumbent democratic senator john walsh accused this week of plagiarism. chief political correspondent carl cameron has some historical perspective. >> reporter: plagiarism in politics, montana democratic senator john walsh appointed earlier this year and on the ballot this fall admits to including other people's work in a paper in 2007. >> i made a mistake in citing the references in the term paper, reference paper. i take full responsibility for that. >> reporter: the war college is conducting a plagiarism investigation. a decision is expected in late august. iraq war university he said he doesn't want to blame his ptsd but medication and suicide of a brother in arms played a role. >> we lost four soldiers in iraq and when i was at the war college one of my soldiers back in montana died by suicide. so, academia wasn't the place for me to be. >> reporter: in response to the article he played up ptsd saying walsh survived hundreds of ieds. walsh's unit was attacked, walsh was in only one of the attacks. democratic strategis

>>> for 26 years tv host john walsh used "america's most wanted" to capture hundreds of criminal suspects. well, after just three weeks his new show is doing the same. jim greenwich village where police tracked down a suspect and killed him during a shoot-out. >> reporter: the west village is one of manhattan's most affluent neighborhoods, sort of funky wanted" asked the show how to track down the suspect which led the police to mozdir. there's at least one published report that that tip came from mozdir's store for us he wrote. investigators will be looking into the maintenance records for the 42-year-old plane and if there is enough fuel. they will also be doing a toxicology test of the pilot and checks his flight history. the investigation could take six months to a year to complete. norah. >> that last message. why is it the final messages at the time that you write them seem very normal and then they take on a bigger meaning after the death. when he said i can't wait to see what the next 100 years bring us. >>> now to this story, marijuana is still illegal in texas. we'll take you out to ♪ (announcer) from the company that invented litter comes lit

. >>> for 26 years tv host john walsh used "america's most wanted" to capture hundreds of criminal suspects. well, after just three weeks his new show is d the same. jimin greenwich village where police tracked down a suspect and killed him during a shoot-out. >> reporter: the west village is one of manhattan's most affluent neighborhoods, sort of funky shops and cafes. and yesterday, a scene of a violent gun battle between cops and a fugitive cornered thanks to a tv show. >> all of a sudden, there was a barrage of police cars with officers and flak jackets. >> reporter: members of the fugitive task force entered a smoke shop to serve an arrest water on 30-year-old charles mozdir wanted for child molestation. >> immediately, fired upon the officers at very close range and the officers returned fire. >> reporter: mozdir was killed in the fire fight. two nypd officers and one detective were wounded and rushed to a hospital. all three are reported in stable condition and expected to make full recovery. >> i can say on behalf of all 8.14 million new yorkers, we appreciate their strength and their decisiveness. >> and he proceeded to tell me that charlie h