i'm a bigot mirer of jim webb. i can always predict where it's going to end up which is part of the p. of -- appeal. if you look at his writing ability we need more citizens like that. >> host: i think we have covered the news media and health care. "a lucky life interrupted" a memoir of hope tom brokaw's latest book and as always we appreciate you taking calls. >> guest: thank you, very happy to be here. >> host: we are joined by james harris is a professor program called -- and the author of the brilliant life of mrs. rosa parks. jane theo harris prior to december 1, 1955 was rosa parks rebellious? >> guest: absolutely and her rebellious. starts as a young person as a kid. for instance she grows up in her home with her grandparents and her mother. her grandfather after world war ii there is on the uptake of clan violence. her grandfather would sit out at night with a shotgun and a 6-year-old rosa parks would sit with him. another time a white person pushes her and she pushes back. she believes she shouldn't have

the most recent new hampshire poll jim webb in that poll does -- forgive me, terribly. he polls at 2% in new hampshire. and because the democratic race this year is a race with sort of normal dynamics you think jim webb 2% he's failing. i wonder when he's going to drop out. if jim webb were running on the republican side that 2% would put him equal to or leading eight other candidates in the republican race. everybody in the republican side is at 0% or 1% or 2%. so far of them rick perry has been the only one to quit. after last night that pace may accelerate. you can't stay in a presidential race with numbers that low. even with all those 0% and 1% and 2% candidates up there last night. we forgot bobby jindal. where is bobby. even with the strange and huge field, with so many of them at literally almost nothing poll numbers. it turns out watching them is compelling. watching them is something that the american public believes to be a compelling prospect. fox got 24 million people to watch the first republican debate. cnn got 23 million people to watch the second republ

jim webb wasce missing which says a lot about jim webb, really.meron who writes democrats deserve earlier, more frequent debates. we need to hear the candidates. that is a theme that martin o'malley had been talking about -- the need for more democratic debates. back to your calls. your thoughts on the presidential candidates today in new hampshire. rebecca in kentucky on the democrats line. caller: hello. host: hi. caller: hi. i'm voting for bernie. host: why is that? caller: well, people need to stand up in solidarity. we cannot be complacent and bernie is right. we need political revolution. i mean, he's right. we need to end citizens united about theis is crazy koch brothers taking over basically. host: thank you for your call. joe in elizabeth, new jersey. republican caller. caller: listening to the candidates today, bernie and h illary and o'malley -- none of them really impressed me. air ina breath of fresh the white house. i think that is donald trump. he's refreshing. he tells it like it is. all these politicians, they go on and on. hilla

hillary clinton, bernie sanders and martin o'malley and jim webb have been invited. >>> three boy scouts assigned up to take a 35 minute flight on a beach craft plane in order to get their aviation badge. the pilot was a member of the church the boys attend. everything was planned until they were two miles from landing back at the airport when the pilot told the boys the plane was losing power and they suddenly crashed landed. >> it was like, what's going to happen, are we going to crash? when we hit the ground i held on to the seat until it stopped spinning. >> fortunately everyone on the plane walked away without a scratch. >>> a major breast cancer study leads to the a revelation for women in the early stages of the disease that story in "healthcheck" when we come right back. >> gas prices are now at their lowest september level in more than a decade. aaa said the average price for a gallon of regular is 2.29 and the prices to extent into next year, maybe 2017. >>> a major study suggest also women with early stage breast cancer can skip chemo without hurting their chances of survival.

and jim webb. at the moment that's it. the political press is speculating about a big name mulling a shot at the top job in american politics. here is al jazeera america's david shuster. >> reporter: sources close to joe biden tell al jazeera, he's encouraged top supporters and advisors to build a presidential campaign. the outreach to donors and organizers is the latest indication that many of biden's staff and backers believe he'll join the race. senator bernie sanders says the vice president will be a strong and compelling rival. presidential speaksman josh ernst praised joe biden's political judgment. >> the president indicated his view that the decision he made, i guess even years ago now, to add joe biden to the ticket as his running mate was the smartest decision in the white house. the president at a private lunch encouraged the vice president to get into the race. the focus on joe biden, and white house encouragement as hillary clinton deals with questions over her private email system as secretary of state. serve

of engagement and the path for any candidate -- hillary clinton, bernie sanders, martin o'malley, jim webbncoln chafee, or even a vice president biden -- is how are you going to use the debate, how are you going to use the dinners, how are you going to use the joint appearances, how are you going to use personal appearances, how are you going to use shows like this one to go out and engage people and make your case for your path? john: up in new hampshire this weekend, the chairwoman of your party, debbie wasserman schultz, was heckled by a crowd of democrats. there should be more debates, open to many democrats. the chairwoman has been adamant that there will not be more than the six currently sanctioned. do you think she should relent and sanction more debates or remove the penalties from unsanctioned debates? anita: full disclosure, i work with the dnc. but i will also say that anybody who worked for barack obama in 2008 is not going to see here and say, oh, you really need 25 debates. you actually don't need that debates, and are plenty of opportunities for candidates to go out there a

decides to enter the race, he'll face hillary clinton and bernie sanders and martin o'malley and jim webband lincoln chaffee. >>> carly fiorina says cnn was right for changing its rules for an upcoming debate. >> i earned my place on that debate stage. they recognized there were so many polls before august 16th and so few after august 6th and before september 16th, that they had stacked the deck so they did the right thing. >> originally the network planned to average polls from mid july until september 10th. the top ten candidates would be included in the prime time debate. the rest would take part in a forum earlier in that day. but cnn decided to change the dates to polls between august 6th and september 10th. >>> happening today, president obama will head back to the white house after wrapping up his trip to alaska. the goal of the trip was to bring attention to the issue of climate change. yesterday, the president visited native village north of the arctic circle where he participated in a traditional dance with the students at the school. >>> today in a kentucky courtroom a county c

if you find yourself onstage with martin o'malley and jim webb and certainly bernie sanders and hillary clinton, your tactic will be what? you will turn every single question into a question about this, or will you debate policy towards iran, debate about health care? will you become a sufficient expert on that wide array of policy areas that you will take on this issues and develop a full-blown platform? mr. lessig: you know i am an expert on all those issues. john: ok, fair enough. mr. lessig: no, absolutely, i will take on those issues. john: you will be a full spectrum candidate. mr. lessig: absolutely. it is incredibly important to try every one of those issues to this in quality point. some of them are just outside the scope. i've got to be able to acknowledge it and talk about it on the merits and recognize that people are electing people on the basis of what they expect is going to happen in the context of an emergency and that is totally appropriate, exactly the right kind of question. but if i were the referendum president, i would be a trustee for two different interests. one

one with it and the biographer gave me a transcript into the conversation between john brown and jim webb and the ahead of the army ballistic missile agency which was right next to the center talking about how are we going to box out george wallace, how are we going to turn the tables on wallace and make this event not a george wallace event and event ended his long brown that comes up with the idea why don't we have an engine test? if you've ever seen a rocket launch it never leaves. it's got a countdown into and the flames had the noise. he says we will have an engine test and we will pay no of the alabama legislature george wallace in all of us where they can't go for security reasons. then when they are sitting there we will go over and talk to them and so they have to rocket customer george the rocket customer george wallace is there, the national press is there. they come in and lecture george wallace and the legislature about the civil rights and that is the number one story in the paper. they said we don't care about this and as steven said, there is nobody that have the gravitas

will it be clinton, sanders, jim webb, martin o'malley, or a guy named joe biden there?en is making his decision and in a letter to him from 50 top democratic donors sent him a letter saying if you want to run we'll raise money for him. in our opinion the next president must be joe biden. it's a campaign we know he'll win. if you're running against hillary clinton and you're joe biden can i raise the $100 million or $200 million. a lot of people have said focus on about $100 million for the first four states then you'll know. by then you'll know whether it takes up. >> i think that the infrastructure would be there. it wouldn't be the size and scope of what clinton has but he would have a infrastructure to run a credible campaign. i talked to a lawmaker who said joe biden is showing up at a lot of events you only show up if you're running for president. there's a sense he's moving toward a campaign. i think the place that joe biden is in now. it's a personal decision. only he knows. >> i think he waits. i think he would be the savior next year. he doesn't want to be the

to enter the race, he'll face hillary clinton and bernie sanders and martin o'naturo o'malley and jim webb>>> carly fiorina says cnn was right for changing its rules. >> i earned my place on that debate stage. they recognized there were so many polls before august 16th and so few after august 6th and before september 16th, that they had stacked the deck so they did the right thing. >> the top ten candidates would be included in the prime time debate. the rest would take part in a forum earlier in that day. but cnn decided to change the dates to polls between august 6th and september 10th. >>> the military is investigating an incident in colorado where a black hawk helicopter landed hard in a forest. four soldiers were in the helicopter during a routine training mission out of ft. carson. who were hurt. military says both soldiers are expected to survive. >>> china celebrated the 70th anniversary of the end of world war ii yesterday with a massive military parade. more than 12,000 troops marched through tiananmen square. some diplomats are weary of the message that china is sending, showing

we wrote a story about jim webb a couple weeks back. we tried to get in touch with them, we tried to do an interview. his campaign spokesman men did an interview with us because jim webb relate the message that he does not like her interviews. they say he is running a unique campaign. public events are minimal. i would describe its organization in the early states as nearly nonexistent at this point. we cannot cover him if he is not campaigning, so next time he goes into new hampshire and he would like to sit down, we would absolutely talk to him. also on the democratic side, martin o'malley. tell me what kind of impact he is making. guest: martin o'malley has been in iowahard enough -- and new hampshire, yet, a whole host of circuits come through this day. last weekend, he spent time in the state himself. tough run for martin o'malley. it seems like hillary clinton and bernie sanders have sucked up a lot of oxygen and it is hard to see him go further than a couple points in the polls. his campaign is not gaining a lot of traction. stil

does anybody think bernie sanders, martin o'malley or jim webb are credible opponents? the calendar does benefit her. she is likely to lose ohio and new hampshire. but then the calendar turns to place whereas she ran well in 2008 against barack obama or if somebody is going to do well they will have to do well among southern african-american democratic leaders whom she has cultivated over the last few years. appreciate it. leland: in arizona, a second dust storm making it way through that state with heavy winds. as americans prepare for this holiday weekend. [ school bell rings ] ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. you handle life; clorox handles the germs. molly: some football fans are recovering from injuries they got in a preseason game workers were opening up the roof when the bolt fell. medical workers say the injuries thankfully are not life-threatening. leland: a second dust storm is rolling through phoenix, arizona. take a look at that a

. >> host: a piece by jim webb which criticizes you for not recognizing the courage and sacrifices of the boomers while speaking often about the greatest generation. put. >> guest: gemini. i went to vietnam with him and we have had this discussion before. he has a legitimate about the former generation are brought about how he did answer the call. how he represents a part of our society. i think he's quite correct in that. he's worried about the roots he comes from.

von braun's phone was bugged and in a conversation between von braun, jim webb the head of nasa and also the head of the army ballistic missile agency which was next to the marshall space flight center. talking about how will we box out george wallace? wallace is coming here? how will we turn the tables on wallace to make this a nasa event rather than a george wallace event. it is von braun, comes up with idea of saturn v engine test. if you have ever seen a rocket launch, a engine test is rocket launch except the rocket never leaves the launchpad. they strap it down. it has the county down and the tension and flames and noise and rocket just sit there is. von braun says we'll have a saturn -- saturn v engine test. we pen them in. can't go there for security reasons. when they're all sitting there, we'll go over and talk to them. so he have this the rocket test. the alabama legislature is there. george wallace is there. national press is there. after the engine test is done, web and von braun come in and lecture george wallace and alabama legislature about civil rights. and that was the

jim webb on the left. but he's great. 90 percent. the only formidable guy on the left.reason is no one on the left. people are looking. >> there is nobody on the right. >> a lot of qualified guys. antiestablishment. this is all about being antiestablishment. the last battle has been joined with donald trump and ben carson. you know, -- >> ebony and ivory together. charles: let's do it. >> no. come on. charles: we have to bring you back. i need you to rate the barbs. who has the best one. forget policy. i want to see who knocks you out. >> say hi to my mom. charles: hi, mom. thank you very much. carly fiorini is not the only gop candidate. lou dobbs tonight talking to louisiana governor on his serious fighting work. that is right. right here at 7:00 p.m. on fox business. market today, the proverbial wall of worry. something interesting happened today. we did not collapse. ♪ so jill, i know the markets have taken a hit lately. mm hmm. just wanted to touch base. how did edward jones come to manage over $800 billion dollars in assets? huh. okay. here's our latest market out

and it's a conversation between von braun and jim webb, the head of nasa, and also the head of the army ballistic missile agency which was right next to the marshall space flight center talking about, all right, how are we going to box out george wallace? wallace is coming here, how are we going the turn the tables on wallace and make this a nasa event rather than a george wallace event? and it's von braun who comes up with the idea why don't we have a saturn 5 engine test. now, it's a rocket launch except the rocket never leaves the launch pad. they strap it down, it's got the countdown and the tension and the flames and the noise, and the rocket just sits there. and von braun says we'll have a saturn 5 engine test, and we'll pan all of the alabama legislature and george wallace, and we'll pen them in where they can't go for security reasons. we'll tell them it's for security reasons. and when they're all sitting there, we'll go over and talk to them. and so they have the rocket test. the alabama legislature's there, george wallace is there, the national press is there. and after the e

. >> we still have to take photos with these four, cruz, huckabee, rubio and jim webb. e have a song. ♪ chrisfy, chaffy, busch, and graham, carson, o'malley [ inaudible ] jim gilmore, kasick, walker, trump [ inaudible ] rand paul, hilary, bernie too, we still have four more to do! [ laughter ] >> since we interviewed the girls, they have managed to get photos with five more candidates only three to go. that's our broadcast. thank you for watching. i'm john siegenthaler. see you back here tomorrow night. the news continues next with antonio mora. ♪ >> my name is imran garda. the show is called "third rail". when you watch the show, you're gonna find us being unafraid. the topics will fascinate you... intrigue you. >> they take this seriously. >> let me quote you. >> there's a double standard. >> you can't be a hypocrite. >> you're gonna also get a show that's really fair, bold, never predictable. >> they should be worried about heart disease not terrorism. >> no, i wouldn't say that at all. >> you'll see a show that has an impact on the conventional wisdom, that goes wher

martin o'malley 3, jim webb 2.e, again, hillary clinton holding the lead but the numbers are slipping and that's giving democrats something to think about in terms of a plan b. >> not only giving democrats something to think about but the clinton campaign something to think about. i think they have been honest within team hillary to say the initial response to the e-mail was not as forceful as it could have been. you saw her finally apologize for using her private e-mail server. recognizing that clearly cost her points when it comes to key questions like honesty and trustworthiness and i think they are trying to telegraph, there was a report in the "new york times" that she will show more hue mar mor and spontaneity. they recognize bernie sanders has come out strong on the issues that matter the most to the progressive base of the democratic party. they put out a campaign finance reform proposal this week. they are seeing some challenges ahead. there are obstacles ahead and they have to be more forceful in how they

former virginia senator jim webb, former maryland governor martin o'malley and former rhode island governorincoln chafee, all of whom are barely rating in the national polls, but that hasn't stopped this one. he is arguably the least known. former rhode island and former u.s. senator lincoln chafee. good to have you here, governor. >> thank you, liz. liz: you're mostly unknown to most of the american public. i have to say that. you're the guy getting 0% in the national polls. i like that you're smiling right now. in just 11 days you get on change that. you are before an educated investor audience whom many are undecided. who are you and why the heck are you running? >> despite the fact i'm unknown, i have one of the best resumes of the candidates running, republican or democrat. the only one that has been a mayor, a governor, and a united states senator, and i served on the foreign relations committee during my time in the senate. i've traveled all over the world as a member of the foreign relations committee. so a good resume, a good vision for the future of our great country and look forw

what we haven't seep is other than jim webb who i believe has raised some questions.the rest of the democratic field hasn't done very much with it the emails themselves. in fact, martin o'malley former governor of maryland has gone the other way. he sent out a message ha, look, i'm mentioned in one of the emails. this is great. hillary clinton is saying how is our guy martin doing in maryland to one of the maryland senators. the democrats are sort of even rallying around her on this at this point. i think the real impact comes, you know, when she faces voters later next year. >> does this mean, a.b., that vice president biden, do you think he is watching this very closely i to see how this unravels? he is running a little bit of time to jump. in he has got the a couple more months. >> right. this is not just some fantasy. people have gone to the party and safe we could have a real problem here. her numbers precipitously. we need one behind beeny sanders to be the. otherwise this wouldn't be at the level that is at now. thee is going to be, if she is the nominee and sh

if she continues at this rate, then by december she'll be competing with jim webb for last place.he's been in the race for five months. during that period of time she'd have multiple campaign reset. her support is collapsing, including among women. she's losing to bernie sanders in new hampshire. he's catching up in iowa. what's truly amazing about all of this is no republican is running advertising against her. she's not suffering from any attacks by other democrats in her own primary, and she's pumped millions of dollars into positive tv 5ds in the early states, and it still hasn't stop the bleeding. i think this is all self-inflicted. if i were were joe biden, i wouldn't rule any out. i would be prepared to move into the race, because i don't think things will get better. they'll get worse. >> jake, really, every republican would love to trade places with hillary clinton if their numbers were the same on every nationalport. right now she's between 20 and 30 points ahead of her next challengers. she is going to be just fine, but she's got to work, no doubt about it. the debate t

. >> jim webb? >> i like the idea of jim webb. more conservative than trump. quickly, you don't think he needs balance, he's never run -- been to elected office but brings running mate on who served so they reassure people someone knows the system? >> no, i actually don't think so. the fact he's risen so quickly shows complete revulsion of politics and career politicians by the electorate. jim webb served one term. >> true. >> he wasn't infected. i think that would be an interesting bipartisan national unity ticket. >> and left voluntarily. roger stone, so smart. thanks for joining us. >> saved by his smartphone. that doesn't happen often but it did in this case. it stopped a bullet. we've got video to prove it. >>> state troops are hiding in plain sight. you can't hide. >> blue honda accord just passed us, turned right. >> cops using 18-wheel to watch you as you drive and catch you on your phone behind the wheel. we'll hear how they're doing it from one man who is doing it, live, next. ♪ [announcer]when we make beyond natural dry

that's not just jim webb's folks down in southwest virginia. that's everybody in the country. people look at congress and lool at the political parties beholden only to their biggest donors, et cetera, et cetera. >> i want to suggest there is a difference between the two parties on this. republican party, throw the bums out. jeb bush getting 8% in new hampshire. come on. hillary clinton is probably the best bet to win across the board. when you ask people would you rather have somebody who's never worked, never done anything, would you like to have an insider, republicans say somebody from outside. you ask the democrats, it's 2/3 still for the pros. democrats are pro-government and they want smart people to run it. >> our poll today is almost exactly reverse in the two parties. republicans want somebody from completely outside of government. democrats want somebody with experience. >> the main point everybody agrees the government isn't working. that it's motive here. >> hillary is only beating trump by three points. who would have predicted that a few weeks ago? >> donald tru

i plan on voting for jim webb. i think he's got a tremendous background in everything. he's well-rounded. i don't think he'll take us into a war unless he absolutely has to. and he will protect medicare and social security. he is a moderate. there are some things i don't agree with him on, but there's a lot of things that i do. he doesn't get any air time i follow him on facebook. i've been aware of him for years, even when he was secretary of the navy. he was a republican, like i was. he turned democrat, like i did. but he is a sisterist and i think that's what we need. and so i'll write him in if he's not in the primaries. that's all i had to say. thank you very much. >> i've covered jim webb since he was in the secretary of the navy as well. he's a very impressive speaker. you know, i think a debate between him and hillary clinton and bernie sanders will be much more interesting than people, perhaps, realize. at this point he's only running a semi campaign. he doesn't have the money to do much. >> how important is it for a candidate to create a passion and a ground s

hillary clinton, bernie sanders lincoln taffy martin o'malley and jim webb have already been invitede will take place in las vegas. >> all right. eagles get that first win yesterday but there's some breaking eagles news. >> sounds like there might be a big loss to come with that win. breaking news is we he did not see coming. according to a report on nfl.com the eagles placed kicker codey parkey on ir. the team has yet to confirm this. he hurt his leg during pregraham warmups yesterday. law to have an mri today. parkey of course had been less than stellar thus far which may explain why. divine intervention yesterday or good timing. eagles have a win and it was a little man that came up the biggest at metlife stadium. darren sproles, took a punt back 89 yards for a touchdown, second longest in eagles history. sproles is the only player in nfl history with more than 15 rushing touchdowns, more than 25 receiving touchdowns and more than five punt return touchdowns. >>> he scored twice yesterday going to show that the only size that matters even in football is the size of your heart. chi

otherwise you'll have hillary clinton, martin o'malley, bernie sanders and jim webb beating up on thebiden legacy. so that might get biden into the race after some healing. >> we will see and hopefully soon. patti solis can doyle, amanda carpenter, thank you so much. >>> don't forget, cnn is hosting the next republican debate on september 16 and cnn will host the first of the six democratic debates on october 13 and we'll bring that to you from nevada live. it will be here on cnn. >>> still ahead -- [ screaming ] police on edge, people pushed to the brink. how the refugee crisis in europe is spiraling out of control. i hate cleaning the gutters. have you touched the stuff? it's evil. and ladders. sfx: [screams] they have all those warnings on 'em. might as well say... 'you're gonna die, jeff.' you hired someone to clean the gutters. not just someone. angie's list helped me find a highly rated service provider to do the work at a fair price. ♪ everyone can shop, but members get more with reviews, live customer support, and better pricing. visit angieslist.com today. you premium like cl

schultz: that secretary clinton's campaign, bernie sanders campaign, martin o'malley, areoln chafee, jim webb focused on the issues that matter. that is what you see reflected in polling. polling does not mean very much right now, i have said that many times. this is now the second presidential cycle as i -- where i am sharing -- cheering as dnc chair. voters the point where just about start looking more closely at presidential campaigns and they are going to be listening for the issues that matter to them. , thet based on the polling e-mails are an issue already. if they do you think it is doing no damage? is a clinton problem? or is it more broad? rep. wasserman schultz: like i said, i think the issues that matter most to voters are the issues that matter to them in improving their daily lives. >> is you could wave your magic wand over the republican candidates and have one, which of the candidates would you want your nominee running against the most, and which would you care the most? rep. wasserman schultz: it doesn't really matter. they are all the same. there are 17 candidates for presi

guest: i have covered jim webb since he was the secretary of the navy. very impressive speaker.ebate between him and hillary clinton and bernie sanders will be interesting. he is only running a 70 semi-campaign. host: how important is it for a candidate to create a groundswell leading up to election day? guest: that is a good question. for the national candidate, it is less important than you think. the election turns much more on longer-term fundamental issues that were settled prior to the run-up to the campaign. that doesn't mean that is completely unimportant. even if you percentage points from one state can make a difference. host: c-span spend a lot of time covering the political conventions. how much of a difference do they make voters? guest: deacon ventures are a turning point -- the conventions are a turning point in the campaign that are important. they are huge infomercials. the party things it is a great thing. poll and get them to stays there. host: patricia is on our independent line. caller: i just wanted to make the point that whoever you vote for for president

jim webb, lincoln chaffey.sanders all of a sudden done so well and three other democrat presidential candidates still at 1% or 2%? >> he's returning the basic campaign ryan's talking about. it is appealing to some of the things democrat diehard ideological pure democratic voters cared about for a very long time. i'll tell you, when you talk to people who come out to listen to bernie sanders, support herbser his, i really like what he has to say but not sure he can win in november 2016. he still has to resolve that question as well. whether he can be the standard bearer for a party he's not a member of, and actually win this fight november 2016. at a tern point you know, wolf, from doing this through many president's cycle it's, the voters want to put forward the person that can actually deliver the white house. >> guys, stand by. a lot nor discuss including donald trump. amazing what's going on in the republican side right now. lots more when we come back. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give

. >> how about champion jim webb?ay, okay. >> okay, sweetheart. >> i will half agree on s.e. on this, i can't imagine that hillary wants him in the race, but it's a personal decision, but the more competitive a primary you have, the stronger the nominee will be. barack obama was a way better nominee in 2008, be prepared for the debates and taking on the attacks behalf what he went through with hillary clinton. if she has a competitive primary here, that will make her stronger. if joe biden gets in, he will be stronger. linking chaffee will be stronger. >> i think the fund-raising event is interesting. it's different than doing a speech. you are going and talking to the people you would need to convince to bankroll your campaign. and it's smart to get in early, ephegley if they're feeling uneasy. >> here's what's got to be discouraging. >>> real quick, final word. >> there's not a single prominent official who are pining for joe biden to get in. >>> that's a great point we're going to leave it on, if that's okay. ryan,

senator jim webb. we are waiting to hear from vice president joe biden. it could be this week.orrow is friday. we will see if we hear either way. >> with 11 candidates, even with the three hours they had, some people such as chris christie are complaining this morning about i got seven minutes of air time. >> i know. >> the bulk was, as we said, the carly fiorina-donald trump show. but, you know, so many people, even with so much time, some are feeling slighted. >> and you will talk about to more during the nine i was talking about it. it has to be weeded down. it has it to weed down to a smaller group. hopefully, that's what will happen. there are six more republican debates alone between the two. more debates on the side. so hopefully fewer candidates, more air time. >> thank you, pam. >>> time is 8:42. president obama is meeting with democratic leaders today on how to avoid a potential government shutdown. a partial shutdown happens october 1st unless lawmakers pass a resolution to keep the federal government up and running in the next few weeks. mitch mcconnell promises the

the former governor of maryland and jim webb -- >> see if you can do it. >> that's what i could rememberhis name. it used to be republican. >> they should have an opening there for an anti-hillary because she is that strong. >> but may move to the media. the truth of the matter is hillary is a strong candidate. i always cringe a little bit when i hear people say there is no movement and august have not. same thing in 2007 and is a white guy with the muslim name came out of nowhere and caught fire. if i was hillary, and i'm not working for anyone this time around, thank god. i would be very anxious about this and i think they are because the democratic primary voters are. you know this. how often is that the person who has established front-runner for the democratic primary actually ends up being the nominee. it doesn't happen often. democrats don't like ordination. >> al gore did become the nominee. walter mondale did become the nominee. hillary clinton was the first one. hillary clinton is the first woman in a generation to not survive. >> i think that's a little different. in the end i

joining us, jim webb. james, how did you come up with the $1.5 trillion number? really interesting question. the big thing is that the oil and gas industry has cost problems. this $1.5 trillion is related to spend that is associated with new products or new projects that are uncommitted or in the future. and these projects are not returning above 10% returns for their investors. and that's an issue. we believe that capex is really at risk. >> we have already seen probably hundreds -- i'm not sure the exact number. tens, hundreds of my yonz of dollars in capital spending already cut. to you though that is perhaps just the tip of iceberg if oil stays as we say in america, lower for longer. >> absolutely. and since january, we've observed around $220 billion of cap ex removed from the plans in 2015 and 2016 alone for the oil industry. so that is the tip of the iceberg. they're big numbers. as we see, this $1.5 trillion sat risk. >> is there a number per barrel that you think -- i know they'll have all different cost basis. is there a number, 55, 60, 56, 70 a bare wr

jim webb, a veteran and served in the defense department under reagan, why do you think these candidatesthey have nothing to do with their military service. senator webb, marine officer fighting in first line combat units. lindsey graham spent 30 years looking at the armed forces. you back off the issue and say why are people voting yes or no in primaries. that's a whole different issue. i would again go back to the general notion -- the terrible situation we have with president obama, such a good man, but he goes out in public on sergeant bergdahl's parents and releases five terrorists. i always thought if they had a retired sergeant major working in the white house, they never would have done that. the armed forces are the most respected institution in american society, and people need to take that into account, particularly if you want to be commander in chief. >> general mccaffrey, always appreciate your expertise. thanks for making the time. >> good to be with you. >>> up next, as promised, the saga is continuing. how the bridgegate investigation landed at united airlines. stay with