to a very strong-willed people and in this case jimmy carter and. apparently the word divorce propped up at least once in the course of that transition. carter, of course, takes the business, not successful in his first year, less than $200 profit, but then he quickly begins to build this into a growing concern. he also begins to look more broadly at service to the community, including service on the sumter county school board. and then on his 30th birthday, october 1st 1962 jimmy carter gets out of bed and puts on his sunday trousers rather than his work trousers and goes to america to file for the georgia state senate without having consulted rosalynn before. so when i asked about this about a year ago he said, i still can't believe i did that. he would not dream of making such a decision like that today. times are very different in 1962 than they are now the 21st century. the election, of course, is contested because of widespread corruption. forget the numbers in the museum, but there were something like 420 ballots cast. anomie 300 some register

his grandfather is former president jimmy carter. o are reported to have a special personal bond. jason is the first carter grandchild. he was only 15 months old when carter was elected in 1976. he interned at the carter center after graduating from college. he later are traveled to nelson mandela's home with his grandfather. the state senator distanced himself from his grandfather on several issues. jason talks about his, quote, powerful connection to israel, says he supports the death's penalty despite his father's call for a ban on capital punishment. republicans hold ef he statewide office there, mitt romney won the state by eight points two years ago. if you look at the average of some of the recent polls, you'll see carter and diehl are locked in a virtual tie. this may have to do with a campaign investigation of the governor's office and schiffing demographics in georgia. 59% are white, in 2000 it was 72%. jimmy carter ears home state voted for bill clinton when he first ran for president in 1992. could the demographic changes

i think jimmy carter and ronald reagan knew that. if you step back and look at the whole thing -- the secret war in the 1980's was a global game changer. billion of roughly $3 and not a single american casualty, the soviet union was defeated within six months, the berlin wall fell. the warsaw pact imploded and the soviet union went out of business. kicking thewith soviet union out of afghanistan? >> that was the catalyst. we will never know if the soviet union had not been defeated in afghanistan what would've happened. >> and we will never know if somebody different than gorbachev would've been the head of the party and would've resisted. >> we know what did happen. they lost in the cold war came to an end and with the end of that, the danger of nuclear war between the united states and russia. >> was there lessons to be learned after they kicked al qaeda out? >> i think the big lesson was you cannot just walk away from afghanistan. this is a very dangerous part of the world. it seems to be a place where important things happen beca

jimmy carter and ronald reagan knew that there were be consequences. if you step back and look at the whole thing, the secret war in the 1980's was a global game changer. cost of $3 billion and not a single american casualty. the soviet union was defeated create within six months -- the soviet union was a fetid. within six months the wall fell. the cold war ended. with kicking the soviet union out of afghanistan. >> that was the catalyst. we will never know if the soviet union had not been defeated what would have happened. >> will never know if someone different than gerber chad -- gorbachev had been head of the general secretary of the party and resisted more. lostat did happen is they and the cold war came to an end. and the danger of thermonuclear war between the u.s. and russia. >> were there lessons to be learned for the u.s. after it kicked al qaeda out or the taliban? >> the big lesson there is you cannot just walk away from afghanistan. this is very dangerous part of the world. it seems to be a place where important things happen because not o

supposed jimmy carter said he is going to level tehran. realize i am sacrificing great americans but i am prepared to do it because this is embarrassing, worst than embarrassing. it is a declaration of war and we want to win this war. we realize there will be casualties but you will be one of them. what would've happened? >> i suspect he would've called our bluff. >> because he was a religious fanatic? did they have information to believe that or were you aware of any information? >> i work on that problem for 444 days. it was pretty strong information that they were willing to sacrifice their country. intelligence information from people around him. i will give you a counterpoint. when jimmy carter was told that the iranians were seriously thinking about putting the hostages on trial as war criminals, he sent that message that if you do this, there will be war. >> that seems to me contradictory. >> i'm afraid my answer is contradictory on that one. my gut tells me khomeini would've called our bluff, at least in the early days. when carter

he calls it a legitimate political actor. >> very hard to understand what has become of jimmy carter.certainly never agreed much with jimmy carter but i admired him, particularly his humanitarian work. but he has gone off "the deep end." maybe he is feeling guilt over having to some extent empowered this whole movement in the first place. look, no one person caused all of this out of control islamic terrorism. a lot of it has to do with the organizations themselves but if there is one american contributed more than anyone else is jimmy carter and inability to keep the shah, overthrowing the shah shah. what that did. shah overthrown. hostage crisis, ayatollah. trace 90% what is going on in the middle east right now to the mullahs, ayatollahs. they're creating problem. they're supporting hamas. now how he could be asking us to support a terrorist group is totally mind-boggling. bill: when he was president too, he met at camp david. that was a big deal when it came between israelis and palestinians. >> he was being extremely weak president but seemed to have the best interests of united

i think jimmy carter and ronald reagan knew there would be consequences. if you look at the whole thing, the secret war in the 1980s was a global game changer. the cost of $3 billion and not a single american casualty, the soviet union was defeated, within six months the berlin wall fell, the warsaw pact imploded and two years later the soviet union went out of business. the cold war ended. >> charlie: began with kicking the soviet union out of afghanistan? >> i think that was the catalyst. we'll never know if the soviet union had not been defeated in afghanistan what would have happened. >> charlie: we'll never know if somebody different than gorbachev had been head of the party and resisted more. >> that's right. but we know what did happened. they lost and the cold war came to an end and with that the dangerous of thermonuclear war between the united states and russia. >> charlie: were there lessons to be learned for the united states before it kicked out al quaida tore taliban? >> the big lesson is you can't walk away from afghanistan. this is a very d

beckel. >> i'm going to change my one more thing because i think in fairness to my former boss jimmy carterbit of a hit i didn't get a chance to say anything about it. i want to remind people it was jimmy carder who went to camp david and got israel to have the only two countries in the region to be their allies that was egypt and jordan. that which israel would have suffered a number of wars since then. so with all the heat that carter has taken about what he said about hamas he's the only person that we've had that actually brought israel peace in their time. >> there's not even enough time to rebut that. you always do that at the end of the show. >> i have to do that. >> he got cut off. >> i did. >> don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an >> it is wednesday august 6th. trouble plans as the growing ebola fear spreads across the country. hoy airlines are changing course. >> he is the highest ranking military officer killed since the vietnam war. harold green the victim of an insider attack in afghanistan. the reaction leaves many scratching their heads. >> the force that mother n

beckel. >> i'm going to change my one more thing because i think in fairness to my former boss jimmy carterle bit of a hit i didn't get a chance to say anything about it. i want to remind people it was jimmy carder who went to camp david and got israel to have the only two countries in the region to be their allies that was egypt and jordan. that which israel would have suffered a number of wars since then. so with all the heat that carter has taken about what he said about hamas he's the only person that we've had that actually brought israel peace in their time. >> there's not even enough time to rebut that. you always do that at the end of the show. >> i have to do that. >> he got cut off. >> i did. >> don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an episode of the five. we'll be back tomorrow. "special report" is up next. >>> a two star u.s. general assassinated in afghanistan. by a killer in an afghan army uniform. this is "special report." >>> good evening i'm bret baier. the often overlooked fact not the focus of many speeches or news conferences here in washington that the u.s. is

ginsburg what he feels about the comments madepresident jimmy carter in respect to israel and gaza not too long ago. guest: i am familiar with the comments, and i did work for president carter, but i can't agree with him because in some calling one is israel to negotiate with hamas. that is sort of the equivalent of asking israel or the united states to negotiate with al qaeda. it would be one thing if all of us had any expectation and hope that the leadership, the military wing of hamas, which actually runs the gaza strip, would be willing to abide by and agree to the commitments of the palestinian authority to and violence,el agreed to in effect become part of a reasonable party to reach an accommodation politically. the problem is is that they are not, and i met with hamas myself -- it is quite clear the ideological islamic extremism, which controls their agenda, makes it virtually impossible to do anything if you are an is really to try to reach an accommodation with them. host: we have a quote from president carter from foreign policy from a few days ago -- humane or legal justifi

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. >> host: jimmy carter. >> he takes this very much to heart for this book came about very quickly it is a passion about women's rights than we need to be very straightforward and nothing abolished. it is a hard subject matter so the blue color is done to soften the town. >> host: never a time when the book would go to print and for whatever reason the cover has to be changed? >> yes. i am running of blank on that now but yes. absolutely. if that happens. but not right at that point usually but the feedback from the retailer's. it has the exact same photograph for very similar.

>> a plea from former president >>> a plea from former president jimmy carter to end worldwide violence against women. he'll join us. ken burns new film shows how history will hep some in the present. why don't congress conduct a study on gun violence. a member of congress and n.s.a. join us. and is there a fountain of youth in mice? hello, i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more on what is ahead. >> former president jimmy carter, high add vo kate for women with girls. >> gender based violence will not be solved in women want to solve it. he brings an important voice to the conversation. >> studying and memorizing the gettysburg address. it is a rite of passage. >> the government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth. >> glute ep free - exploding in popularity. is it a joke. >> why do you avoid it. >> we begin with a call to action from former president jimmy carter to counter what he refers to as the most serious unaddressed challenge facing the world - the depravation and abuse of girls. president carter highlights what he desc

i have the opportunity to interview jimmy carter on this. he also provided access to his private diaries. it is clear from that jimmy carter had decided that hanging to what torching the american embassy and islamabad, killing two of our marines in the process, pakistan was too important to. i want to be careful on this question. global jihad. the cia did not trend. interviewing a lot of cia officers who were involved, osama bin london was not on their radar screen until the end of the war which is an intelligence failure. that was not the priority. the priority was killing russians, not focusing on the arabs. that was a mistake. but there was no question that the board itself created the intellectual environment in which the global geoid emerges. one of the figures are profile and the boat is a palestinian. in 1983 he wrote a book called the defense of muslim lands. the common sense with the american revolution, the inspirational book created a global she hide. his closest partner was osama bin on. >> yes, sir. >> i have two questions. one,

. >> host: jimmy carter call to action, his most recent book. >> very serious, he takes the subject very much to heart. this book came about very quickly. it is passion about women's rights. we need to be straightforward, nothing that is embellish. a hard subject matter. the blue color is softened. >> host: has there ever been a time the book is going to print and for whatever reason the cover has to be changed? >> guest: oh yes. i am rug

jimmy carter on the softball field. any number of things. presidents fishing. often early 20th century presidents like coolidge and hoover fishing in three-piece suits. >> are there any of those images that are in any way controversial? you write about teddy roosevelt liking to chop down trees on his property just to hear it fall. we knew george w. bush was always clearing brush on his ranch. outside of golf, have president's been criticized by the activities they pursue on their vacations? >> sure. sometimes with a little bit of tongue-in-cheek. president theodore roosevelt, who won the nobel peace prize for in the summer of 1905 monitoring the hand of the ru vacation,se war on had a newspaper scolding from the "new york times." the reason? he needed a break. the break appeared on the waters of oyster bay. and it was an early u.s. navy submarine, called "the plunger." roosevelt went down on it for 55 minutes. hee new york times" said needlessly risked a valuable life and a collapsible and otherwise dangerous device. >> the book is "away from the white house: p

meanwhile, former president jimmy carter is weighing in, accusing israel and hamas of possible war crimes, specifically the lives lost. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu offered up this. >> israel deeply regrets every civilian casualty, every single one. >> over 1,800 people have been killed in the conflict, including 432 children. >>> new developments in the last hour from the kremlin and moscow. russia just announced that it is banning imports of meat, fish, milk and fruit from america. the eu, australia, canada and norway. it's all part of retaliatory efforts to punish the u.s. and its allies for imposing economic sanctions against russia. the country's prime minister will ban transit flights for ukrainian airlines traveling through russia and has threatened to ban european airlines from flying over siberia. at a press conference yesterday, nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing asked president obama about the power of the sanctions. >> reporter: are sanctions not working? >> considering that president putin recognizes that, you know, ukraine is an independent

former president jimmy carter writing the u.s.nd eu should recognize hamas is not just a military but also a political force. only by recognizing its legitimacy can the west begin to provide the right incentives for hamas to lay down its weapons. joining me now, ari fleischer, serving under george w. bush. words matter in theory. when we look at policy, the words we choose have an implication. the u.s. designated hamas as a terror group. what is the impact of a former president saying they're not terrorists but politicians. >> what he did say is moral abandonment of right and wrong. it's moral surrender. what's troubling about it from a strategic sense is winds are blowing in a different direction in the middle east because of what happened. >> you think this could actually be damaging even to negotiations that are taking place right now? >> i think most people will ignore what president carter said. what's aggravating is things are changing and recognition that hamas because they are terrorist and radical islam, arabs say let's m

. >> a plea from former president jimmy carter. to end world violence against women. he'll join us. >> and extraordinary kids. in the present. why won't congress allow the cdc to conduct a study on gun violence. a members of congress and of -- a member of congress and a spokeman joins us. i'm antonio mora, here's more of what's ahead. >> former president jimmy carter,ing advocate for the treatment of women and girls. >> i've seen tangible examples of how horribly women and girls are treated. >> gender violence, he brings an extremely important voice to the conversation. >> studying and memorizing the gettysburg address. >> gluten are free. why do you enjoy it? >> it makes you fat. >> we begin with a call for action from former president jimmy carter. , the deprivation and abuse of women and girls. false interpretation of religious text almost exclusive by powerful male leaders, to proclaim the lower status of women and girls. growing tolerance of violence and warfare following the example set by the u.s. has also played a role as violence has encouraged more violence.

jimmy carter had just been inaugurated president. after defeating gerald ford, a republican who never won the presidential election and replaced the republican richard nixon who was pushed out of office who resigned in disgrace and the republican party at the time was completely ripped apart by nixon and rockefeller republicans, the kind of political republicans, conservative republicans, a lot of the same divisions that you see today among the team are the libertarians all of these things were still there in fact i would say that it was worse than. in fact it was so bad that ronald reagan whose 11th commandment was thou shalt not speak ill of another republican ran against gerald ford in 1976 and tried to take the republican nomination away from him. that's how bad it was. so he's definition in 1977 the common sense and common decency of ordinary men and women to conservative wisdom and principles are the riot from the willingness to learn not just from what is going on now with what has happened before. and think about that that mi

[applause] >> next, remarks by former president jimmy carter at the islamic society of north america. after that, a discussion on terror threats to the u.s. and another chance to see the bbc scotland debate on the independence referendum. >> on the next washington journal, commentary editor phillip klein discusses president obama's foreign and domestic policy challenges. the up coming midterm elections. adam green, the chairman of the rogressive committee speaks. and foreign policy senior staff writer gordon l. ubold talks about the threat posed by isis. as always, we'll take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook. >> >> former president jimmy carter gave the key note speech on the first day of the islamic society of north america's convention. the former president and others had received criticism for agreeing to speak at this forum. this is about 15 minutes. >> well, first of all, i want to thank you for that introduction. also for helping us in one of our projects at the carter center. it's very important to me about which i'm going to speak later on this afternoo

even presidents like gerald ford and jimmy carter contributed to it. carter by demanding that soviets being release and had pushing for human rights and freedom of religion in the soviet union. gerald ford, the helsinki accords, but reagan gets across of credit because of the tough policy and the way he very astutely handled foreign policy . but to make a broad-brush statement that democrats aren't very good at it, harry truman was the father of nato. he felt with the berlin lockade of 1948. he created the joint chiefs of staff, the c.i.a., the department air force, the whole pentagon apparatus, on and on, and jack kennedy guiding us through the cuban missile crisis. most scholars feel did he an excellent job with that, creating the peace corps, which has been a huge success, out foxing the soviets over berlin. , so you know, jimmy carter, who's considered by many a failure during the camp david peace accord, which still is on the books as the great event in middle east history in the last, really, 100 years probably, or at least since the creation of i

>> harry,an i'm going to jump i there because i think a simple way i can say that jimmy carter, president experiensoldee yesterday was almost everything you need to know about progress, about heart, about honesty and about the future. he is on top of it in every way. so i would say to all of america, if you can get a tape of the jimmy carter presentation affair unbelievable. [ applause ] >> there's a movement going on now about unionizing college athle athletes. i'll be very interested in both of yourti e opinions in terms ok this unionization effort. it's just starting. i think people are looking posit around for an opinion, a perspective on an it that they understand and wrap their minds about. jim? bill?his phr >> bill, you want to take this? >> for me, i have this phrase that i use. all great fortunes are amassed with either cheap or slave one labor.ever and soyb the ncaa is one group everybody is focusing on.

lou: jimmy carter in an op-ed saying that hamas should be respected and recognized by israel and the community for all that it is much more than israel or the united states and certainly here has given a recognition. as the former president out of his mind? >> he's certainly an embarrassment to the and i don't think he's the only one who has done this. i bet that he and secretary kerry just know it's not possible. lou: to that effect, hamas has won elections and it is a political organization with which that we would make comparisons. but the fact is that the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu has given back to hamas win gave the palestinians and is that a mistake in your judgment? >> as long as the gaza strip exists, it's going to be a source of terrorism and has no other productive activity other than that export of terrorism. it's true in 2006, which was old and tired and corrupt and so it's a pretty low bar but it's fired by an ideology that requires the destruction of israel. lou: there is no quibble here with that. but to treat it as if it is the moral equivalent. lou: do you m

, kennedy sailing, eisenhower golfing, jerry ford skiing, jimmy cart other a softball field -- jimmy carter on a softball field, any number of things, prellses fishing, early 20th century presidents like coolidge and hoover, fishing in three-piece suits. >> are there any of those images that are in any way controversial? you write in the book about teddy roosevelt liking to chop down trees on his property, just to hear the tree fall. and we, of course, knew george george george was always clearing brush out at his ranch. outside of golf, those sorts of activities, have presidents been criticized by the activities they pursue on their vacations? >> sure, and sometimes with a little bit of tongue in cheek. president theodore roosevelt, ho won the nobel peace prize in the summer of 1905 for monitoring the end of the japanese war while on vacation, got a newspaper scolding from the new york times. the reason, he needed a break. the break appeared on the waters of oyster bay, and it was an early u.s. navy submarine, appropriately enough, called the plunger. roosevelt went down on it for 55 minut

and then last but not quite least, jimmy carter. jimmy carter's library until the roosevelt library redid there's, i think there's was the top in terms of the modern gizmos and so forth. it is about five minutes away from atlanta and it feels like a different world. it is a wonderful library. he just shows one day in the life of a president. you see all of these meetings and discussions and things that are going on. now, you remember the reagan gain. i would have played their video game, but i did not get my ph.d. a very complicated. and then where it all and says i went out to see that george w. bush library be opened after they invited me because i asked. it's all there could not be there, but i could watch it on c-span in the basement. there is the director, but i had the joy of actually getting inside the c-span bus. as you can see, i snuck through. and there we have it. and it would be delighted to answer any questions. [applause] [applause] >> if you have any questions, please come to stand at the microphone. [inaudible conver

and then last but not quite least, jimmy carter. jimmy carter's library, until the roosevelt library redid theirs, i think theirs was the top in terms of the modern gizmos and so for the. it's about -- five minutes away from atlanta. feels like a different world and it's a wonderful library and here's something where he just shows one day in the life of a president. you see all these meet examination discussions and things going on -- meetings and discussions ask things going on. you remember the reagan game. i would have played their video game but i didn't got my ph.d yet, and very complicated. and then where it all ends is i went out to see the george w. bush library be opened after they invited me to fly out. they told me i couldn't be there but could i watch it on c-span in the basement. there's the director, alan lowe. but i had the joy of actually getting inside the c-span bus, and as you can see i snuck through and did it anyway. so, okay. and there we have it. so i am -- be delighted to answer any questions. [applause] >> i

so jimmy carter says we've got to recognize the terrorists. >> yeah. the united states and e.u. should recognize hamas is not just a military, but also a political force. hamas cannot be wished away nor will it cooperate in its own demise. only by recognizing its legitimacy as a political actor, one that represents a substantial portion of the palestinian people can the west begin to provide the right incentive for hamas to lay down its weapons. so peter, legit mazing hamas, the terrorist organization, is this going to embolden them and our other adversaryies? >> absolutely. yes. you make a good point in asking that question. the legitimacy of a terrorist organization is always in question. so for a former president to say it needs to be legit mazed as a political actor in the world, along with other states, that's a huge, huge issue, especially when we heard sean hannity talking earlier today about 10,000 missiles being hurled into israel over this ten-year period in this area that he was in and now a president saying oh, no, let's recognize hamas. re

. >> and jimmy carter, a call to action, his latest book. >> a very serious.takes the subject very much to heart. this book came about quickly. and it is his passion about women's rights. and so very straightforward. nothing is embellished. it is a hard subject matter. you know, the blue color is done to kind of soft and the tone. >> perfect. ever been a time when a book is going to print and for whatever reason the cover has to be changed? >> oh, yes. i am running a blank on that now, but yes. absolutely. that happens. but usually it is not quite so right at the point of that it is going to the printer. and it could be, like i said, feedback from the retailer's or there is another cover out that has the exact same photograph or very similar. you know, we did not realize that we need to change. >> you can watch this and other programs on line at booktv.org. >> up next from the annual roosevelt reading festival at the fdr presidential library in hyde park, new york amity shlaes looks at the great depression. this is just over 40 minutes. >> good afternoon, ever

ginsburg what he feels about the comments madepresident jimmy carter in respect to israel and gaza notoo long ago. guest: i am familiar with the comments, and i did work for president carter, but i can't agree with him because in some calling one is israel to negotiate with hamas. that is sort of the equivalent of asking israel or the united states to negotiate with al qaeda. it would be one thing if all of us had any expectation and hope that the leadership, the military wing of hamas, which actually runs the gaza strip, would be willing to abide by and agree to the commitments of the palestinian authority to and violence,el agreed to in effect become part of a reasonable party to reach an accommodation politically. the problem is is that they are not, and i met with hamas myself -- it is quite clear the ideological islamic extremism, which controls their agenda, makes it virtually impossible to do anything if you are an is really to try to reach an accommodation with them. host: we have a quote from president carter from foreign policy from a few days ago -- humane or legal justifica

having said that i think that most israelis see jimmy carter being pro palestinian. i don't see very much changing. i salute peter and others for finding rays of sunshine somehow in all of this, but if you are per verse enough to want to be depressed, all you have to do is focus on the middle east. it's eternally depressing because it's so difficult to see how you break out of current patterns. even in the united states, it is very difficult for the political alignments here to change. jewish americans vote democratic about 75% of the time democrats support israel. why would republicans be supportive of palestinians? part of their base is christians who are even more pro israel because of political and do doctri doctrine. it's hard to see things changing. >> you always hear these polls that younger americans don't strongly support israel as older americans do. does that matter? >> well, you are absolutely correct. recent polls showed that people under 30 are much more inclined to be balanced and to be even sympathetic to hamas and critical of israel. of course, unlik

so i would say to all of america, if you can get a tape of the jimmy carter presentation of yesterdayhat that affair is unbelievable. [ applause ] >> there's a movement going on now about unionizing college athletes. i'll be very interested in both of your opinions in terms of this unionization effort. it's just starting. i think people are looking around for an opinion, a perspective on it that they can understand and wrap their minds about. jim? bill? >> bill, you want to take this? >> for me, i have this phrase that i use. all great fortunes are amassed with either cheap or slave labor. and so the ncaa is one group everybody is focusing on. they have this money machine. and to keep it this way, the labor force has to be free or very low wages. that's why you look at a lot of the great companies in this country, and they pay their labor -- they can't afford to go to the place where they work. i know when i was a rookie 100 years ago, the average salary in the nba was $5,000. that's not even meal money now. in the middle '60s, we struck players in the league got together and struck a

i must tell you, i was surprised, for example, the statement of former preresident jimmy carter thathamas is a legitimate organization. >> legitimate political organization. >> i wonder if it would say so also in al qaeda, it's only okay to fight against israel. but using terrorist methods like sending suicide bombers like launching rockets into civilian israeli israeli cities or -- boko haram was fighting in africa, also a legitimate organization. but i must tell you that we do appreciate the very clear statement both from america that president obama and john kerry and the european foreign ministers that they say gaza should be demilitarized. >> well, what about the united nations? the top diplomat, the foreign minister saying before the u.n. criticizes israel, it should make sure its facilities isn't being used to encourage activity. showing how humans were being used as shields by hamas in this conflict. >> this is an ugly tactic. and you know, we, israel, we really are sorry for any civilian casualtiesn gaza. we didn't want the violence. we accepted the proposal for the cease-fi

jimmy carter was smart. >> nixon was very smart. kennedy, not backish smart like you would think, but, look, it's not all a about intelligent. >> i don't know son? >> johnson wasn't as well read. >> no. >> but when he did read something, it meant something. there's a story when john stein beck goes and visits with lbj. and he loves stein beck, johnson, the land, the people, that kind of thing. but i go with jefferson and theodore roosevelt as the most literate of our presidents. >> including well read. >> yes. >> the back is edited by douglas brinkley. thank you, a pleasure. >> thanks, charlie. >> thank you for joining us. see you next time. >> for more about this program visit us on-line at pbs.org and charlierose.com. >> on the next char lee rose a conversation with james cameron, the film director, about his trip to the ultimate depths of the ocean. >> release, release, release! >> see ya. >> i think my heart rate is up a little bit at the moment that i tell them to release the sub. >> deep sea challenger, do you copy, over? >> d

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we return to a call to action by former president, jimmy carter, with what he calls the most serioushallenge in the world, the deprivation and abuse of women and girls. a false interpretation of religious texts, almost exclusive did i powerful male leaders to proclaim women's lower status, and he said violence and warfare, following the example set by the u.s. has also played a role as violence encourages more violence. the book is "a call to action, women, violence and power." i spoke to the former nobel peace winner and asked him what causes this. >> the carter administration is in 79 countries, and since i left the white house, that's what we have been doing, and we have gotten to know people in third world nations, particularly where women and girls are especially bruised. but people can do something about it. and i have 23 recommendations in the book that can solve these. but in the rich world, particularly in the united states, and a lot of problems occur in the poorest countries, the backward countries of the world, we might call them, and also, here in the united states. slav

so i would say to all of america, if you can get a tape of the jimmy carter presentation of yesterday at that affair is unbelievable. [ applause ] >> there's a movement going on now about unionizing college athletes. i'll be very interested in both of your opinions in terms of this unionization effort. it's just starting. i think people are looking around for an opinion, a disposition, a perspective on it that they can kind of understand and wrap their minds around. jim? bill? >> bill, you want to take this? >> for me, i have this phrase that i use. all great fortunes are amassed with either cheap or slave labor.pqrñ and so the ncaa is one group everybody is focusing on. they have this money machine. and to keep it this way, the labor force has to be free or very low wages. that's why you look at a lot of the great companies in this country, and they pay their labor -- they can't afford to go to the place where they work. i know when i was a rookie 100 years ago, the average salary in the nba was $5,000. that's not even meal money now. in the middle '60s, we struck the all-star game,