jimmy carter refused to participate. anderson was invited because the league of women voters said you had to be 15% in the polls. he was at 16%. jimmy carter said he would not debate. by the time the second debate came around, carter and reagan had their only debate. that's really began the takeoff point of the debates. then in 1984, there was a great deal of controversy with the media. the candidates were given the right to veto the choice of moderators. in those days, they normally had a moderator and maybe three or four reporters who asked the questions. the two candidates detailed over 90 reporters. following that, there were two independent studies done. one was at the institute of politics. the other was at the center for strategic studies in washington. both of those committees were studying not just the debate process, but how we elect our presidents. both of them independently came to the conclusion that there should he created an entity that exists for one purpose, to conduct general election debates every four

and remember, americans have met with iranians since the jimmy carter discussions. think there's reason not to trust rouhani but as peter said, to test his intentions. and i think he believes that his economy is in shambles. he needs to break out of internasa isolation and the supreme leader has given him some leeway to see if he can strike a dedeal. >> what about the tweet? people get that two ways. one, he means it. really? there's only one jewish member of parliament? what's the right way to look at it? even if you're skeptical, isn't this encouraging to reach out to the jewish people? >> i'm surprised by what he said. i see what really said today. and benjamin netanyahu. they're not buying it. these are people who live in that neighborhood. they have a tremendous amount at stake in an iranian program. remember, iran is a state sponsored program. you can test the diplomatic intentions but be cautious to see through the theater that i think is being presented. >> thank you. >>> our seventh story "outfront," amanda knox is back on trial. she is accused of murdering

jimmy carter refused to participate. therson was invited because league of women voters said you had to be 15% in the polls. he was at 16%. jimmy carter said he would not debate. by the time the second debate came around, carter and reagan had their only debate. that's really began the takeoff point of the debates. in 1984, there was a great deal of controversy with the media. given theates were right to veto the choice of moderators. in those days, they normally had a moderator and maybe three or four reporters who asked the questions. the two candidates detailed over 90 reporters. following that, there were two independent studies done. one was at the institute of politics. the other was at the center for strategic studies in washington. both of those committees were studying not just the debate process, but how we elect our presidents. both of them independently came to the conclusion that there should he created an entity that exists for one purpose, to conduct general election debates every four years. as a result,

i don't like jimmy carter. there were real problems with him. he is a good man in his heart but i started to look into his legacy and he actually wanted to shrink government. out the time i was in college and to young to appreciate but he wanted to shrink government. we should have supported that but his own party came out against him. i think he told the democratic party i will automatically veto these than they turned against him. the terror credit party wanted to grow government who would have thought? he tried to shrink it while we are bad a.m. we should be grateful that his attitude was that. >> host: not a great difference between republicans and democrats? >> not today. the republicans try to of large government because that is scienter to power. taxes and voting and spend. that seems to be the pattern and mitt romney tried to stop that to say we have to stop and that scared people. one of the devious to parts of the socialist mentality is to make people dependent on government and once you are dependent on, when we retire to pays the bil

jimmy carter refused to participate. anderson was invited because the league of women voters said you had to be at 15% at the polls to participate. anderson was 16. jimmy carter said i won't debate if he's in it. anderson fell at 12% at the second poll and carter and reagan began the debate. that began the takeoff point of the debate. in then in 1984 that series of debates had a great deal of controversy with the media because the two candidates were given the right to veto of moderator. in those days they had a moderator and 3 or 4 reporters and the two candidates vetoed over 90 reporters there. were two independent studies done starting in 1985. one was at the institute of politics at harvard and the other was center of strategic national studies at georgetown. both were studying not just the debate process but both of them independently came to the conclusion there should be created an entity. both groups came to the chairman and me and we created the commissioner in 1986. and we began our 25-year run with the first d

trick -- nixon tried to inflate dip but what shocked me is jimmy carter. who likes jimmy carter? there are some real problems with him. he is a good man in his heart i started to look into his legacy and he actually wanted to shrink government. at the time i was in college and to long -- too young to appreciate it. we should have supported that but his own democratic party came out against him. the 19 things he said i will automatically veto but the party turned against him and they wanted to grow government and he tried to shrink there. who would have thought? despite the things we are mad at him we should be grateful his attitude was that. >> host: not a great difference between republicans and democrats? >> guest: not today. republicans try to a large government because that is the answer to power. tax and tax and vote and go and spend and spend so republicans adopt that mitt romney i think tried to stop that to say we have to cut back. that scared people. one of the devious truisms of the socialist mentality to make people dependent upon the government. once you are dependent

that's when jimmy carter was in office and at the time andrew young, remembers all too young.former u.n. ambassador, always good to have you, ambassador. what do you make of this? i want to get into your history here but this meeting. >> this meeting, i think, is very good. in fact it's most important for us to talk to our enemies. and i've always advocated that, and it's always worked for us. you don't really understand what people are really after unless you give them a chance to say to you what it is they're concerned about i've always felt we neglected iran. we have a lot of very smart, creative american iranian citizens, and i have said to them, one of the reasons why we were successful in southern africa is we knew the black leaders that could be trusted. and so we were able to carve out a little influence in foreign policy that made it possible for us to get by without wars in southern africa. i think the american-iranian community ought to have the same kind of interaction with the iranians in iran. iran is a complicated place, and we have never quite understood it wel

. >> the last time they met jimmy carter was in office. joining me now joel ruben, former state department officer. joel, good morning to you. can you put all of this in perspective. ask the magnitude of this be overstated? >> it cannot. this was a historic week. a real break through. we're living at the hinge of history right now. and this phone call this past week, the negotiations that secretary of state kerry and the iranian foreign minister held, this changes the entire dynamic of the u.s./iran relationship. what we are going to see going forward now is an intense issive set of diplomacy. we have meetings already scheduled for next month in geneva about iran's nuclear program. the president spoke about seeing a nuclear deal. president rowhani was in new york speaking many days about this. we are witnessing a change that truly is unique and historic and very hopeful in terms of trying to avoid a war and an iranian nuclear bomb. >> joel, why now? why didn't this happen before? because of the role of the iranian people? was it because of

achievements recognizing many of our asian community and efforts to promote units. 35 years ago president jimmy cartero include the whole month of may and in? 91 it was a permanent celebration. we also have included all communities. in san francisco we're committed to having the celebration. the plan of this celebration are the accumulate celebration committee and now it's my honor to greet you on behalf of the committee please give a warm welcome to my guest. good afternoon, everyone thank you so much for joining us this year and we celebrate the asian community. as i look around the room and i think about the event and in a few weeks ago going to have the asian fair, i think about all the parades a or marching or a cheri blossom or the columbus day parade everybody comes out to celebrate and throughout the whole most people are coming up u coming out. and we embrace the diversity so i thank you for being here today. and the theme of the dine arts i don't know how many of you who have been to this community font so isn't this the perfectly cool place. i want to thank the staff. but thank you so much

it is called the carter doctrine, after president jimmy carter. he said "protection of the flow of persian gulf oil is of vital interest of the united states, and to protect that flow, we will use any means necessary, including military force." to that end, he said we will need military bases in the persian gulf area, and he established military bases to support this policy of protecting the flow of persian gulf oil. and then wars were fought as well in line with that policy. >> east and west are united in pioneering and new frontier of progress. serving the interests of the saudi arabs, serving the interests of the united states, and demonstrating the vitality of the american system of free enterprise. a system which, from this new frontier, is pumping into the trade of the world oil. one of the materials making us -- making a truly great contribution to our modern civilization. >> the reasons -- the reason in fact, the primary reason for the intervention in iraq is to ensure u.s. control over the major energy resources in the world. being built

reagan was pretty viciously attacking jimmy carter as an incompetent, as somebody who didn't know what he was doing, and as somebody who was opening danger to american lives because of what he was doing with the soviet union. he budget afraid to make attacks -- he wasn't afraid to make attacks on jimmy carter, and that contrast allowed him to win. there's something else that people forget about reagan winning in 1980, and this, i think, is something that conservatives really need to take into account. bad economies do not help republicans. bad economies help liberals. this is why fdr was able to win four separate elections while having the worst economy in mesh history -- american history. that's why that election was close in the latter days, that gap was closing. it only ended up being a blowout because of afghanistan and the iranian hostage crisis. early polling, carter was well ahead. carter was leading reagan by a pretty wide margin. so in the last elections cycle, screaming from the rooftops at the time, people were saying, oh, all mitt romney has to do with look at barack obama

at that time jimmy carter was president and it took place just before the country's islamic revolution. this kind of outreach to an international foe is something candidate obama promise d. >> and i have disagreed with senator clinton for example on meeting with iran. >> reporter: the president never did reach out to rouhani predecessor, mahmoud ahmadinejad, but it was rouhani's new tone that changed mr. obama's calculus. >> we have a unique opportunity to make progress with the new leadership in tearen. >> reporter: the biggest skeptic is america's number one ally in the middle east, israel. prime minister benjamin netanyahu comes to the white house on monday. brian, i'm already told the white house has briefed israel on all parts of the conversation that took place. >> chuck todd at the white house, which brings us right here to this very studio. our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell is here, also nbc's ann curry who interviewed the iranian president in

a lot of people compare president obama's presidency versus jimmy carter's, jimmy carter gave his famous, we were still a shining star suspected of economic and military and people losing confidence in a different way. now we are losing confidence across the board. we should be aware of that because it can't continue in this direction. we can't be no. one forever. it is not ordained we be number one, we have to continue to do the things we did. stuart: do you say america is in decline and we cannot arrested? charles: america has put it in neutral and the world is on the way up and if we keep it in neutral we will look around one day and won't be as important as we used to be. stuart: more on this the rest of the program but i want to go to nicole petallides because technology rules. facebook, noaa is up sharply. nicole: new hy, 48-90, of to 49-33 getting closer to $50, citigroup the aba rating on the stock, $50 price target and talk about mobile apps download and the introduction of the video advertising, what they have seen so far looks very stable. stuart: and advertising deal between

one of my jobs as chief of staff was to read his cap concession statement over the telephone to jimmy carter, because president ford had lost his voice. he had been working so hard in this closing weeks of the campaign, his voice was gone. all he could do was a bear whisperer. he called me into the oval office. we drafted a telegram, and then he told me to get governor carter on the phone, which i did. he introduced me and then i had to read that statement. that was a real armor. that was about as low as you could get when i think about my political career. as i look back over it now and think about it, those particular days, but a lot of my experience is that out of adversity rises opportunity. i think back to that time when we lost the 1976 election, on the heels of watergate, nixon had been forced to resign, and a lot of things you should be pretty grim about, but with the perspective of a little time and history, we had to go through that jimmy carter period to get to ronald reagan. that morning when i read that telegram, at was for me the beginning of what became the reagan revolution,

jimmy carter helped me with this. [laughter] yap. that jimmy carter. president carter remembers wesley brown quite well had a nice phone conversation about him and he did use the word brave about him leslie browne was brave and an outstanding person. had he been eric gan or less timid or less courage would not be successful and even before jackie robinson played baseball so a very early time brave, intelligent, and responded to acquire persecution with equilibrium. as they read the stories in to write down that history of old dunbar and the frustrating to write down the recent history. i found up intel whether "in-depth" reengineering program of the difficulties of the outside world made their way into dunbar '60s, '70s, '80s, of violence of the '90s. but the 2000 story is tough in some kids were trying to steady some trying to teach and some teachers you should not have been there sunday said good home will been frankly -- whoopin' frankly it is at the time the resolve that reform with when michelle v. takeover and do you know, you have an amazing blue

so what would you -- how you respond to that criticism from jimmy carter? >> well, i mean, i think president carter speaks from experience about diminished stature in an international crisis. but so obviously, his input is valuable. but i think president obama is in the strongest position -- has put america in one of the strongest positions we've been in in over a decade. you know, president george w. bush had significantly degraded our international influence around the world. we stood alone in the war in iraq. we were roundly criticized and rightfully so. and today, we have 35 nations that have, that, signed the statement in support of the u.s.'s commitment to strike. and who have underscored the importance of degrading and deterring assad from ever being able to commit these horrific acts against his own people, particularly children, again. so president obama's leadership has rebuilt our credibility around the world with leaders that was decimated in the previous administration. >> a lot of people i'm sure will disagree with that assessment, especially g

our president hasn't talked to their president since our president was named jimmy carter. obama and iran's new so-called moderate president have spoken. that's a possible breakthrough. it's big news tonight. >> the president of iran tweeted about it today as he was flying back overseas. >>> a prominent business group is slamming california's new minimum wage. it hasn't even taken effect. >> we already have the highest gas, sales, and income tax in the nation, and the most outrageous lawsuits and now we have the highest minimum wage in the country. >> it will rise to $9 an hour next year and up to $10 in 2016. >>> new at 5:00, a man is in stable condition at stanford hospital after being air lifted from a cruise ship. the coast guard pulled the canadian man from the cruise ship. he was showing symptoms of acute kidney failure. a coast guard rescue swimmer was lowered on to the ship to hoist him into the helicopter. >>> six people are believed to be dead after two cargo ships slammed into each other south of tokyo. the cause of this collision is under investigation. >>> a un

this is the lowest labor force participation rate since august 1978, in the middle of jimmy carter's terms, which were not exactly good times. the biggest problem you have right now in this job market, most of jobs lost are between 16 and 24-year-olds. these kids are not going to be hired because you're seeing -- everybody quotes new york. new york has a unique situation with their insurance premiums, they look like they'll go down. wisconsin up 120%, california up 150%. these are going to hurt and coanies won't hire people because of obama care kicking in. >> you say there may not be a net effect. >> right. we already have the burden of an employer having to pay your insurance. a lot of people in states where the law is you could have a small policy will get more insurance. they get 150% more insurance their employer will pay for, but for you to consume more health care because of that. you're going to see doctors more, use more medical device, and create jobs. it will lower -- your paycheck won't go up but the money will be spent in the economy. it's not going poof. >> gary b. smir

plus jimmy carter's surprising remark undermining president obama. i am wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." the drum beat of war has now been replaced with the hushed tones of diplomacy. russia has submitted a plan to the united states that would place syria's chemical weapons under international control. the top american and russian diplomats, they're getting ready to try to hammer out the details. the meeting tomorrow in geneva, switzerland, between the secretary of state and the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov will give all of us an important indication of whether or not the proposal is really serious and here is what i learned. top u.s. officials tell me they believe if the united states and russia actually were to work out a deal it would have very solid chance of being implemented. they believe the russians have enormous leverage over bashar al assad given the significant military and political support moscow provides. they also insist that the threat of u.s. military strikes certainly has forced the russians and the syrians to at least consider

. >> when jimmy carter -- president jimmy carter who was viewed as being very weak internationally isident obama looking weak internationally, houston, you've got a problem. but i think there's something that we haven't seen before and i think it should be a wake-up call to the white house. we saw democrats criticize his team and say, we are not there for you. this is the first time that even democrats have abandoned the president on such a high-profile issue. i think it's important they continue establishing relationships and reaching out to congress. >> i think what we've seen -- >> you've played a clip from the president. i'm a foreign policy person. i don't want to say anything much about the debt ceiling but the president laid down another red line. he said i'm not going to deal with you on this question. why having gone through this on syria does he want to keep on doing that? >> maria -- >> and we've seen it in his economic dealings and we're seeing it in syria. he doesn't care about the short-term parlor game talk. his focus is on the long game. in syria, if at the end of the

they read this as a hopeless, lame duck -- >> no more attacks on jimmy carter. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. you can get more from the insiders every monday 10:30 a.m. they will be back here next sunday and also follow them on twitter at. a healthy you with carol alt is coming up next. >> i'm carol alt.on i have been on the cover of several hundred magazines, but i wasn't always the healthiest person. i struggled with my weight,erso fatigue and the pressures of my career. i realize it was time to change. i realized the importance of good health.y we i am not a doctor. i am just like every person watching this show. i want to help make a healthytci you. >> i'm carol alt. i do yoga three times a week, but i started having problems with my shoulders. is this a result of doing yoga or making mistakes doing

give you an idea how bad it's gotten, today jimmy carter compared him to jimmy carter. [ laughter ] that'sot -- that's not a good sign. and syrian president assad told fox news that if he were ever to talk to president obama, he would tell obama to listen to your own people. is he the one to give advice about listening to your own people, huh? [ light laughter ] his people are shooting at him. really! why don't you listen to them? yeah, exactly! shut up! [ cheers and applause ] well -- and according to a fox news poll, most americans don't understand obamacare. you know why? 'cause it's not in spanish. that's why they don't understand it. [ laughter ] [ audience ohs ] if it were in spanish they'd be like -- exactly, exactly. [ applause ] well, listen to this. like critics are saying that obamacare will require doctors to ask you about your sex life. see, that is outrageous. because your sex life is between you and the nsa, okay? and nobody else has any right to listen in or see those pictures. that would be embarrassing to have to talk to a doctor about your sex life, wouldn't it? you know

. >> it's been more than 30 years, dating back to president jimmy carter just before the islamic revolution and the american hostage crisis which lasted more than a year. events that fostered decades long diplomatic freeze. >> it's not very often that you can see the hinge of history moving. you may have seen that this week. a step-by-step process that can change one of the key relationships in middle east and in the world. >> that was nbc's kristen welker reporting. >> it is that time of year again. today was the tickoff of the flu shot campaign. thousands of people showed up to get the vaccine. many used the drive through clinic to get the shots. many say they appreciate the convenience >> we don't have to get her out, get her in a wheelchair and get her in and out. >> doctors say seasonal flu activity can begin as early as october. the centers for disease control recommends a yearly flu vaccine for everyone six months of age and older. >> a marijuana dispensecy held a blood drive today. organizer say they want to prove to critics that pot dispensaries can be good neighbors. two blood mob

the press and -- they would say that, got rid of that jimmy carter, barack obama fluke, we got business friendly president, and passed legislation, slashed taxes for the wealthy, slashed regulation, slashed social programs. look, the economy is going up. cause and effect. things are coming back. just like ronald reagan. bringing things back. progressive ideas would have been discredited for a generation. so, whatever frustrations progressives have right now, i think they should look at the glass half full and say that the country dodged a bullet last year, and ryan plan went from being something that was a serious possibility to being a fantasy. repealing obamacare, which they did 31 times, they could repeal it another 131 times and wouldn't make a bit of difference. the president has the veto pen until 2017. the demographics of the country continue to move in a progressive direction. so, are these obstruction issues and the problems that the president himself has in getting his agenda through and being as effective as his supporters would like him to be, and joe and i will talk about t

jimmy carter was in the white house, the shah was ruling iran. >> things have been strained for decades. there's a feeling that improved relations could unlock a number of international issues, notably bringing the syrian leadership to a peace conference in geneva. >> the new rain ian president has been -- rain yn president has been described as a moderate. it's bringing new attitude to dealings. >> another side of a thawed relations between the two countries is this: the u.s. returned a 2700 silver cup to iran that had been seized by u.s. customs more than 10 years ago. president obama is not caving in to house republicans demands to defund the affordable care act in exchange for a budget bill. the president used his weekly address to demand congress meet its responsibilities. >> i will work with anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about our economic future. i will not negotiate over congress's responsibility to pay the bills it has racked up. i don't know how to be more clear about this. no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the united states of america to e

beginning with jimmy carter we began an age of deregulation, which really took the reins off of industry, carter deregulated airlines, rail lines, he hoped it would reduce inflations. it didn't, and it give companies more ref larg leverage against r employees, and then they raised interest rates so high in an tempt to reduce inflation that nobody could afford to buy a car, buy a house, and many of the industrial parts of this country never recovered. we're still in this 40-year period in what i call th the agf deregulation. the government does not even need to spend a lot of money to reverts this. enact policies such as higher tax rates on inheritances and investments and also healthcare system to replace the welfare capitalism that has disappeared as unions have become weaker. >> josh, do we need higher taxes on the healthy and tax relief on the middle class? >> i think we definitely need higher taxes on people with high incomes for a couple of reasons. in the long run we need the revenue. over the past 30 years as your guests have noted they've gotten the lion share of income gains. wh

chris, why did jimmy carter lose the election in 1980? i think it was iran. think it was the hostages. i think iran has played a huge part in politics ever since. could well do it again next time. if we're not, we go to war with them. and if you have a question for me, any other question, just tweet your questions to @hardball underscore chris. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. coming up next, your business with jj ramberg. ise her spirits. we tackled your shoulder pain. you make him rookie of the year. we took care of your cold symptoms. you take him on an adventure. tylenol® has been the number 1 doctor recommended brand of pain reliever for over 20 years. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. >>> small business owners work together to revive a downtown filled with empty storefronts. we continue our series, main street usa here in bedford pennsylvania. we have that and a lot more coming up next on your business. we're proud to present your business on msnbc. >>>

former republican congressman for new york, fox news contributor, former pollster for president jimmy carterdoug shaun, a former pollster for bill clinton. did president make things worse? >> well, in the short-term, i think the settlement with the russians probably brought him some time. but the speech on tuesday, if i have my dates correct, clearly from the polling, didn't. moreover, we're looking at a situation where the syrian government and the russians have the upper hand in terms of the verification of the agreement. we have a budget that is doa, a debt ceiling that is still to be litigated. obama care still up in the air. bottom line, all that's happened this week is we've bought some time, and there are a lot of unanswered questions. >> let the throw a couple of polls up on the screen here. real clear politics poll averaging president obama's job approval. boy, it continues to tank here. and then you look at his "wall street journal" poll, and it's even worse. pat, what do you make? >> i think he's deteriorating. i think held be if the republicans had any message at all, he would re

that is from "the weekly standard," with the picture of richard nixon, former president jimmy carter,nd the situation i in munich during the sun rejigged -- summer 1972 olympic games. inwill get to your calls just a moment. the president last night addressed the congressional black caucus, outlining his agenda as lawmakers began the debate in the senate on whether or not to keep the federal government running. t debbie rejigged -- two key votes last night. [video clip] >> we are seeing extreme factions of these folks threatening to shut down the government if we do not shut down the affordable care act. some of them are actually willing to see the united states the fault on its obligations and plunge this country back into a recession if they cannot deny the basic security of health care to millions of americans. that this is an interesting thing to ponder, that your top agenda is making sure that 20 million people do not have health insurance. defaultd be willing to for the first time in the andory of the united states you are going to make sure -- because you do not want to make sur

at that time jimmy carter was president and it took place just before the country's islamic revolution. this kind of outreach to an international foe is something candidate obama promised back when he was running for president in 2008. a pledge he was strongly criticized for at the time. >> and i have disagreed with senator clinton for example on meeting with iran. >> reporter: the president never did reach out to rowhani's predecessor, mahmoud ahmadinejad, but it was rowhani's new tone that changed mr. obama's calculus. >> but believe we have a responsibility to pursue diplomacy and we have a unique opportunity to make progress with the new leadership in tehran. >> reporter: the biggest skeptic of iran's new outreach is america's number one ally in the middle east, israel. prime minister benjamin netanyahu comes to the white house on monday. brian, i'm already told the white house has briefed israel on all parts of the conversation that took place. >> chuck todd at the white house, which brings us right here to this very studio. our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell

former republican congressman for new york, fox news contributor, former pollster for president jimmy carterdoug shaun, a former pollster for bill clinton. did president make things worse? >> well, in the short-term, i think the settlement with the russians probably brought him some time. but the speech on tuesday, if i have my dates correct, clearly from the polling, didn't. moreover, we're looking at a situation where the syrian government and the russians have the upper hand in terms of the verification of the agreement. we have a budget that is doa, a debt ceiling that is still to be litigated. obama care still up in the air. bottom line, all that's happened this week is we've bought some time, and there are a lot of unanswered questions. >> let the throw a couple of polls up on the screen here. real clear politics poll averaging president obama's job approval. boy, it continues to tank here. and then you look at his "wall street journal" poll, and it's even worse. pat, what do you make? >> i think he's deteriorating. i think held be if the republicans had any message at all, he would re

he disagreed with jimmy carter boycotting the 1980 olympics.t was about the athletes and the pursuit on the field. >> coming up, we'll have more insight into the historic phone call between president obama and the rannian president. dad! dad! katy perry is coming to town. can we get tickets, pleeeeease??? tickets? hmm, sure. how many? well, there's hannah, maddie, jen, sara m., sara b., sa -- whoa, whoa. hold on. (under his breath) here it comes... we can't forget about your older sister! thank you, thank you, thank you! seriously? what? i get 2x the thankyou points on each ticket. can i come? yep. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on entertainment and dining out, with no annual fee. to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards >>> more now on the history that was made between the phone calls of the presidents of the united states and iran. joining us from the school of international studies at johns hopkins university, my alma mater. thank you for coming in. it is very dramatic. when you think about it, 1979. americans held ho

with former president jimmy carter and his wife, rosalynn. every year since 19-84... the carters have spent a week building and renovating homes with habitat. next month... from october 6th through the 12th... they'll help complete projects in san jose, california, denver, colorado, new york city and union beach, new jersey. since being founded... habitat has helped build or repair more than 600-thousand homes -- and served more than 3-million people around the world. a kentucky judge spends his friday nights making stadium announcements for a high school football team. that may not sound impressive... until you realize he can't see the players, the field... or anything else. connie leonard introduces us to a blind football announcer with some surprising insights on the game. i don't have any perspective of how things look but i have a lot of perspective of how things sound. for judge david holton being effective in court means: projecting, keeping your energy up...and your temper down. that's also true in sports. all right. arriving early for every western home game,

. >> host: had jimmy carter go from soups to suits?>> once you go from charming peanut farmer from georgia to the guy wearing sweaters in the oval office and lecturing americans on eric conditioners you go to a bureaucrat he was perceived as on this joe he won on the strength of one statement i will never liked you then by the time it was 1980 even if he never applied he was just not good at his job. , ronald reagan gave the contrast they acted though reagan was just in china of the time you saw a figure was far from sunshine he was pretty viciously attacking carter as someone did that know what he was doing a and opening danger to american lives for what he was doing to the soviet union he was not afraid to make attacks on jimmy carter -- jimmy carter also something people forget of rated winning in 1880 that conservatives need to take into account bad economies helped liberals that is why fdr could win four separate elections for having the worst economy in american history everyone thought the gap was closing because of the iranian

the one person who helped the lot was jimmy carter. that jimmy carter. president carter went to wesley brown quite well, spoke very highly, had a nice phone conversation with president carter about him and he did use the word brave about him. and i think he was an outstanding person. had he been to the edge or had less courage or had been arrogant he would not have been successful. this would be before jackie robinson played baseball. this was a very early time and he was brave and intelligent and well behaved and responded to hazing and quiet persecution with equilibrium. so as i read the stories and hear these i don't have any stories or great lines. it was very exciting to write the history of old dunbar and it was frustrating to write down the recent history of dunbar. i found that up until 2000s hmmm there was always a quarter that was there weather was an engineering program for a student family had gone to dunbar, even though all the difficulties of the outside world made their way into dunbar in the 60s, 70s and 80s and the violence of the 90s th

the middle-class close jimmy carter basically because he's a handsome guy. he's a peanut farmer. a lot of the working-class think he's my kind of guy. he can fix stuff. you can fix the government. he's clearly not part of the northeastern liberal elite. he says exactly what the middle-class wants to hear. i'm going to cut underclass spending and trim bureaucracy. does he do it well? disorders. the late 70s is better, but still a tough time. inflation exceeding the average rising in town. a lot of middle-class is bumping against the lower class because neither lesser job for their underemployed. in the 50s they were bumping up to the upper class. at the pump to the lower class and the lines are becoming increasingly clear if you lower middle class or if your priority, which is real trouble. at newsweekly call this middle-class poorer. because they really are poor yet somehow belong to the middle-class. so now we are to the 80s and ronald reagan. the divide between the upper and lower it is bigger than ever. there's an upper middle class now and a lower middle-class. it just isn't

actual labor force, is at the lowest it's been since the bee gees were at the top of the chart and jimmy carterdisturbing. >> so just for people at home, when you're looking at the unemployment numbers, what does that include? >> well, if you look -- there are two different surveys and that's why it's a little bit confusing. the number of jobs created, which was 169,000 in august, is done by a survey of businesses. the unemployment rate is done by just talking to u.s. households, are you employed or are you not employed. sometimes they move in tandem, sometimes they do not. >> is that the source of confusion for people, when they're feeling more confident that they're going to have job security? >> we're seeing the unemployment rate falling, we're seeing even the underemployment rate falling. but again, it's not for good reasons. it's basically negative factors that are driving this. and again, it's because so many people are just dropping out of the labor force. right now we have 4 million people who have been unemployed for more than six months. 11.5 million people are looking for work. that

friend robert reich she was bill clinton's secretary of labor also served under gerald ford and jimmy carter and he's now professor at the university of california berkeley and the bestselling author of more than a dozen books and the start of a brilliant new documentary inequality for all inequality for all opens across the united states this friday and it's already picked up a special jury award at the sundance film.