the taliban say they believe everybody to be a target in the jirga. they have a document which lay claim to the official plans at this gathering. that was denied by various security agencies and by police. but there is no doubt that security is at the highest possible level. long-time residents here in kabul are saying they've almost never seen anything like this. there are new road blocks all around the city. there are an additional 150 mobile police check points. police at the gate into the city for the past 72 hours have been denying access to anybody who didn't have a national identity card. earlier in the week, the insurgents managed to get a team of three close to the venue where the jirga is being held. one bomber was killed trying to gain access. the fear is that there will be other attackers already in position trying to disrupt this jirga, which the taliban have vowed to do. >> 17 preschoolchildren have been killed in a head-on collision between a mini bus and a truck in western china. two adults also killed in this crash. 45 people injured

. ♪ ((break 2)) it's called a "loya jirga."d regional leaders in afghanistan will discuss the country's future relationship with the united states. security is always a concern, especially with o many paton walsh tells us, with kk - conditions improving, nato is ready to pass more control back to afghans. afghans. --reporter pkg-as follows -- slowly nato's transferring the security of afghanistan ver to afghans.the next regions to be handed overrwill soon be announced by president hamid karzai.it may, nato and afghan officials have told cnn,, innlude two of what have been - historicallyy- the moot violent parts of the country's south.first, in helland, there's the district of nad e ali: where many british troops have diee over the years.but plso - in kandahaa - the argandab valley - recently a hotbed of insurgent violence where many americans have died. now a afghan official in argandab tells us security is a lot better, but that's there in force.if they leave, hh tells s, things might get worse and fast.but the logic of thiss-

i don't like it it's it's it's seems to me that most a loya jirga is comprised of. his chief competitor if you would if you can call it that every country that has a single bill principle and who is not there i don't believe many of the pain shares are there any of the other treasury x. and so i i don't know what to make of it and i find his demeanor. to be a little bit unreasonable even though i have to agree that you have been have been on record as saying i don't think the night raids are a smart move right now he has demands but he also has desires for troops to stay for another ten years past twenty four. for more funding to help train our campuses can you think of any reason why after twenty four we would still need troops to be there for ten years. no i can't i can't think of any good reason why we would other than the national reputation international prestige and loss of fish. but that that would be a hard reason to sacrifice a son or daughter in a in a full on hope if you will and so no i don't i don't see exactly a good reason for saying that. i will i wa

jirgas can be a dangerous business here. bbc news, kabul. >> from afghanistan to iraq, where by the end of this year, 30,000 american troops will be packing up and shipping out. is not exactly what washington wanted. president obama would have preferred to keep a small contingent in iraq, baghdad declined. with the long, painful chapter coming to an end, what is america leaving behind? gabriel gatehouse spent time with forces as they prepared to withdraw. >> the busiest military truck stop in iraq. each day, the snake their way through the base as they head south words out of the country. -- southwards out of the country. the war has cost america over $70 billion. as they pack up, the question -- was it all worth it? >> the operation between the u.s. military and the iraqi government really brought civilization back to a tolerable level here. the differences as -- i am proud everyday. i know our soldiers are proud. >> that pride is not shared in a nearby town. the estimates of numbers of lives lost exceed 100,000. people liv

he wants an endorsement from the jirga that would allow him to continue negotiations, but even though the terms may have gone down well with his audience, and are far less likely to appease the americans, and there already have been nine months of the negotiations and the argument, and it still has not been finalized. >> what about the other risk, which is what to do about the taliban, to open up in the form of negotiations, that kind of thing? how do you think that will go down? >> it is quite an irony that reconciliation with the insurgents is high on the agenda for this meeting. at the very moment when the taliban are stressing to attack us. a 28-page document that they claim was the official security for the event has been denied by official sources and by the police, but nonetheless there is extraordinarily high security, not just around the jirga gathering but around the city, and there are reinforced checkpoints come additional patrols, and troops and police out in the streets. many businesses are closed, and we are driving around kabul, which is normally a bustling city, now d

karzai is apparently hoping to get the support of the loya jirga to put pressure on the united statesand here in thailand the u.n. secretary-general has seen firsthand the devastation caused by the nation's worst floods in decades. ban ki-moon sat down with thai prime minister yingluck shinawatra in bangkok on wednesday to discuss the crisis. he pledged all necessary assistance to help thailand recover. >> this crisis will be overcome soon. as i said and i repeated, the united nations stands ready to work with the thai government. >> meanwhile, in some parts of bangkok nhk observed floodwaters have receded. officials say their efforts to drain the water are working. >> the level of the flood in bangkok should not be higher than this time, and the area should not be spread out. we may say that this is under control right now. >> floodwaters from the north are being diverted to the east and west of bangkok. even though the center of the capital now appears safe, the situation in those areas remains severe. >>> and that will wrap up our bulletin. i'm patchari raksawong in bangkok. >>> ti

. >>> another important meeting kick off in afghanistan on wednesday where a traditional loya jirga of community leaders gathered to discuss pressing issues facing the war-torn country. at the top of the agenda was the planned withdrawal of international troops by 2014. afghan president, hamid karzai, indicated that american forces would only be permitted to stay longer under certain conditions. >> the united states and afghanistan have been negotiating the continued presence of american forces to counter militant groups but the two sides have reached an impasse about nighttime operations by the u.s. military, which the afghan side opposes. karzai is apparently hoping to get the support of the loya jerger to put pressure on the united states. >>> here in thailand, the u.n. secretary general has seen firsthand the devastation caused by the nation's worst floods in decades. ban ki-moon sat down with thai prime minister yingluck shinawatra to discuss the crisis. he pledged all necessary assistance to help thailand recover. >> this crisis will be over, over. overcome as soon as i say again

in afghanistan, the traditional national assembly, the loya jirga, today endorsed the government entertaining into talktalks that could keep thouss of u.s. troops in the year after 2014. afghan forces are taking command in some areas but are finding self-reliance has a steep learning curve. mandy clark in kabul has more. >> reporter: in a remote valley near the pakistani border, an afghan commander worries about his mission and his men. "our ammunition won't last till the end of the month," he says. "if we don't get more soon, this post could fall to the hands of the enemy." but help is not on the way. the commander who asked for his name to be withheld says the border police are being stranded at their posts because u.s. and nato forces are refusing to fly them out. no flights mean no resupply, either. "we don't have any helicopters, he says. "we're running out of food." the border police rely heavily on american aircraft to move their food, fuel, ammunition, and even men around the battle space but now nato is increasing pressure on the afgains to do more themselves. brig deeing general tom

want to play i think pacifically afghanistan this week president hamid karzai has called the loya jirga together made up of two thousand afghan leaders to discuss the future of relations with the u.s. as well as to go sheesh and with the taliban karzai is trying to get the u.s. to keep troops and military trainers in the country for ten years past the twenty fourteen deadline as well as getting help financing the afghan security forces of course all this in exchange for full respect of afghan sovereignty and an end to night raids and house searches by foreign troops but ten years in america's war effort in afghanistan is still failing but what could ten years more really achieve i'll talk to somebody who's been there and knows what the u.s. and coalition troops are doing wrong joining me to discuss this is kim lynch founder of free range international can't thank so much for being on tonight a long time no talk we're happy to have you back on the program. all right so let's first start with what's going on in afghanistan right now with this or that i mean karzai has decided to call it's

hash out why sopa and protect ip are considered so dangerous and then we'll take a look at the loya jirga hamid karzai has called together in afghanistan as well as what the future of military commitment by the u.s. might be in this country to lynch is going to join us to explain it where he feels the military has gone completely wrong we have all the am or theater night getting a dose of happy hour but first take a look what the mainstream media has decided to miss. wells another day of election coverage and candidate scandals and today the mainstream media was all over the latest story coming out about newt gingrich clear some brand new reports that new congress was paid more than one point five million dollars in consulting fees by mortgage giant freddie mac. he's being dogged by reports that he earns one point six million consulting for mortgage giant freddie mac. when asked about this at the debate he said he was hired as a historian but it turns out he. was a p.t. advisor to freddie now which was bailed out by taxpayers his consulting firm was paid a whopping three hundred thousand

albeit, it didn't achieve any results here with their attempted attacks against the loya jirga and i'm sure there's a lot of pointing the finger is why to exceed, but frankly it was the afghan security forces that denied them the opportunity. >> albright, general. i'm looking at a room with no hands raised. so with that, i will actually turn it over to you and any closing remarks that she'd like to make emissary. >> well, thank you, jane. and thanks to all the teams they are. we appreciate you tuning in and hearing about how our troopers are doing here in afghanistan with this important mission that we are undertaking. and as i mentioned, we still have a lot of work to do. we've made great progress at their afghan security force partners over the last several in some very, very hard fighting and we have hard fighting yet ahead, but increasingly afghan security forces are leading that effort. i know you'll keep us in your prayers over the thanksgiving holiday. and particularly our families as they continue to serve selflessly at home and support us while we serve here. on behalf of all

continue albeit it didn't achieve any results here with their attempt at attacks against the loya jirga and i'm sure there's a lot of pointing of fingers going on as to why they didn't succeed. but frankly it was the afghan security forces that deny them the opportunity. >> good morning, general. i am lucky now at a room with no hands raised. so with that, i will turn it over to you and any closing remarks that she played in the commissary. >> well, thank you, jane. and thanks to other teams fare. we appreciate you tuning in and hearing our troopers are doing here in afghanistan with this important mission that we are undertaking. as i mentioned, we have a lot of work to do. we have made great progress with their afghan security force partners over the last several months in some very, very hard fighting and we have hard fighting yet above and then they do not ask her. i know that she will keep us in your prayers are with this thanksgiving holiday and think we are families as they continued to serve helplessly at home and support us while we serve here. on behalf of all of the courageou