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could joe biden have been right? >> poor joe biden got hit from a lot of sources when he made that observation but if you look back historically, presidents do get tested in the first year or two in many different ways and right now president obama is confronted with several tests, dealing with the recent disclosure of a secret nuclear facility in iran, the continuing challenge with north korea, the huge domestic and he and now on top of all that there seem to be percolating to the surface some of these f.b.i. investigations which seem to suggest there may be domestic terrorists within. tavis: two questions about president obama. one, he has made the most news of his administration so far around his international agenda the last week. what's your sense of how he is handling the challenges you have just laid out on t international front? >> well, i think his ability, it was, i'm sure it was accidental in the sense that they were together at the united nations and later at the g-20 with the leaders from france and germ

remember the senate seat joe biden left open?ere are new republican competitors in the form of some old-school winners. mike castle, nine-years delaware republican congressman, former-two term governor, is announcing his bid for the senate seat and he could be facing joe biden's own son, bo -- beau biden. that could be an interesting race. john corning, republican out of texas and chairman of the senatorial committee, issuing this statement. this statement. very interesting in delaware. back to you guys. jon: illegal poaching is big business in california, bringing in about $100 million a year. the problem is apparently getting worse as game wardens their face budget cuts. we're live at discovery park in sacramento. >> $100 million was the estimate a few years ago, and that number has gone up exponentially. the products taken from california, animal products or natural products, are being found as far away as alaska and asian countries. we have a game warden here to talk to us about it. we see a sea lions swimming behind you. it

one, increase troop levels 30 to 40,000 or two, as joe biden favors, no more troops just keep bangings plan, will it work. >> the short answer is no. >> where who in the hell does that guy think he is. oh, he is general stanley mcchrystal hand picked by obama to reshape our strategy. i see. >> ann coulter and reverend al sharp ton join me. i believe the president must honor general mcchrystal's request. >> it seems weird how long this decision is taking. >> geraldo: i have a theory on that and i have not confirmed it. remember, general david petraeus, the hero of the surge in iraq who is now the commander of iraq and afghanistan was diagnosed with prostate cancer and he had all of that rigorous therapy. i think he was out of the loop and that is why i think the mcchrystal memo got leaked. >> i have a different theory why it took so long. because ann and her friends had us in iraq looking for weapons of mass destruction when we should have been in afghanistan maybe about seven years ago, that might be why is took so long. >> as long as you mention it, i would like to take this opportun

. >> joe biden will sort the georgetown capital breast cancer center. -- joe biden will tour the georgetownapital breast cancer center. >>> very slow on 270 through germantown. there was an accident after clopper road. looking at 66 traffic. delays out of their legs and up to vienna with the lanes open. >> we are looking at a fairly nice and to our work week. partly sunny skies. a warm front will move through the area. saturday, a chance for showers, maybe even a thunderstorm. temperatures in the upper 7's. mid 70's on monday. chance for showers on tuesday. -- temperatures in the upper 70's. hopefully the weather will cooperate tomorrow. you may need your umbrella. >> we will keep our fingers crossed. >> that does it for us. >> we hope you have a fantastic weekend. progresso. we have a bit of a bad connection. oh hang on. is that better? much better. we love your weight watchers endorsed soups but my husband looks the way he did 20 years ago. well that's great. but he's wearing the clothes he wore 20 years ago too. oh.... i know the neighbors are talking about him. i'm sorry, can you hang o

vice president joe biden also attended the service. an american cardinal spoke out against abortion calling for the rights of the unborn. the red mass is held the day before the new supreme court begins. it's been held every year since 1953. >>> former federal reserve chairman alan greenspan says tough times are not over yet on the job front. greenspan is forecasting an increase in the unemployment rate leaving many of us to wonder if a second stimulus package is needed to keep the country afloat. >> reporter: former federal reserve chairman alan greenspan believes the unemployment rate will push past 10% and stay there for a while. he called the latest 9.8 unemployment rate pretty awful and he's very concerned about people who have been out of work for a long time. six months or longer because they start to lose their job skills. >> the economy loses skills and people who are out of work for very protracted periods of time lose their skills eventually and remember that what makes an economy great is a combination of the capital assets

joe biden running around saying plan is working is -- sibby plan eight is working does not make sense. -- saying plan a is working does not make sense. greta: a war on air force one. what happened? liz cheney goes on the record. greta: now, is this really something to joke about, dave? david letterman has admitted to having sex with several female employees, and he said that someone was trying to extort money from him, asking for it $2 million or the affairs would be expos. -- asking for $2 million, or the affairs would be exposed. >> the creepy stuff was that i have had sex with women who work for me on this show. now, my response to that is yes, i have. [laughter] i have had sex with women who have worked on the show. [applause] and would be embarrassing if it were made public? perhaps, it would. especially for the women. [laughter] [applause] but that is a decision for them to make if they want to come public and talk about relationships, if i went to go public and talk about the relationships, but what you do not want to have is a man saying, "i know you have had sex with women, s

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and joe biden is the key, he says hold. >> this is the hot et cetera issue in our country. join us tomorrow at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern. keith olbermann starts right now. >>> which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? 122 more americans died today because they don't have health insurance. on the way to 44,000 more americans dying this year because they don't have health insurance. and democratic congressman alan grayson gets criticized for saying this. >> remember, the republican plan, don't get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly. >> asked for an apology, grayson says stick it. >> i apologize to them and their families that we haven't voted sooner to end this holocaust in america. >> otherwise he is 100% correct, the republican plan is don't get sick. and republicans and milquetoast democrats in the pockets of the insurance agencies might as well be killing people right now. ariana huffington on the latest politics. and senator jay rockefeller reveals exclusively on "countdown" an amendment he will introduce to make it law that insurance companies have t

. >> vice president joe biden, who misspoke yesterday when he said the stimulated already created one million jobs, appeared resolute, wedged between the president's top economic advisors, biden said now is no time to give up. >> there will be peaks and valleys in this process. this is not a straight line to recover, but we are recovering >> 263,000 americans lost jobs in september, pushing the unemployment rate to 9.8%, a 26-year high. 15.1 million workers are now jobless. 7.2 million knocked off payrolls since the recession began in september 2007. >> the numbers don't look good. >> and if you count the 807,000 workers who just gave up and aren't in the workforce anymore, the unemployment rate would be much higher than that. >> long-term unemployment also continues to climb. the number of americans out of work for more than 27 weeks rose 450,000 in september. that total is now 5.4 million americans. for the president, the only good news is that the bad news isn't as bad as it used to be. >> since the period last summer when we were losing 700,000 jobs per month, we have made movemen

vice president joe biden spoke at a retirement home in maryland today to reassure senior citizens about reform. the seniors didn't really care what biden said in the speech, they were just happy to outlive it. they were like -- "is he done?" did you hear about this? libya's president moammar kadafi gave a lengthy tirade to the u.n. general assembly today. he was supposed to talk for 15 minutes but went on a 90-minute rant instead. i mean, where is kanye when you need him? [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] come on! come on, buddy! the dow closed yesterday at 9,829, its highest point since last october. shareholders were like, "thank god," or however you say that in chinese. the los angeles city council passed an ordinance yesterday that allows just one rooster per household. which means if a rooster wants to be with another rooster, they have to move to san francisco. [ laughter ] i just read that chaz bono will release a memoir in 2011 about his decision from going from female to male. shoot, i just gave away the ending. the only memoir that actually turns into a pop-up book. it's pr

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so they'll make the right decision, though. >> joe biden was the surge on iraq and so many differenthings. he might have been on the foreign relations committee for a long time, but he's been wrong an awful lot. >> that will have to be the last word. peter, john, thank you. >>> let's go now to the very latest on the aftermath of the deadly tsunami that struck the samoan islands. today is nag at prayer service is scheduled. and more aid is arriving. teams of national workers continue to distribute aid to storm survivors. the american samoan governor is calling on people staying in shelters to stay there for a few more days as authorities head out to survey the full september of the damage. american samoa and samoa were hit by a tsunami after an earthquake killing at least 176 people. >>> still ahead, a sports reporter's accused stalker goes to court. for the ones we love with a flu shot from walgreens. ( blows nose ) ♪ ( coughs ) ♪ ( sneezes ) we're making it easy for everyone to get their flu shot, no matter how small their motivation may be. ♪ come get yours for just $24.99. walgree

steve: harold, one of the reasons that barack obama chose joe biden was he had all this foreign policy experience. so you would think that he would certainly pay attention to what joe has to say. >> i don't think the two arguments are mutually exclusive. the vice president is arguing for a counter terrorism fight and general mcchrystal is arguing for counter insurgency fight. i think the counter terrorism action can be a lesser included element of the counter insurgency fight. so i think he may be setting up a false dichotomy here. i think the argument that the vice president is making can actually be part of what general mcchrystal is asking for. i actually think in the end the president will send troops tied to some bench marks of performance, including looking at how they can work on a more close basis with the local tribal leaders and local leaders because of how delegitimized the federal government is in afghanistan. steve: good observation. all right, guys. stand by. more coming up with our panel on the other side of this quick timeout. then, a sideline reporter gets knocked out

joe biden favors reducing the overall levels and concentrate on limited counter terraism issues. the president is considering a change of ideas from pulling back to staying the course to sending thousands more troops. protesters will continue overnight and the boots will remain in place on sunday. >> thank you for that. >>> remembering the brave men and women who died in the line of duty. the nation paused to reflect on lost firefighters. the ceremony was held in maryland. it paid tribute to 103 men and women from the united states o died protecting others. one was jared dixon. >>> pink slips have been passed out. and today teachers packed up their belongings. d.c. public schools announced they were laying off 229 teachers. news of cuts sparked protests at mckinley tech high school. employees who were cut wonder if budget cuts are really to blame here. many of them are over 35 years old and all the teachers have tenure. >> heart broken at this point. i would feel better after my 16 years of service in this -- the school system if they could just tell me why. >> reporter: d.c. sch

a group led by vice president joe biden is backing a pared-down counter-terrorism fight, fewer troops who would target the insurgents and focus less on afghan security. the national security adviser said today the decision will be made in a matter of weeks. >> we have time on the president's schedule. he's going to devote an enormous amount of his time to lead us through this. >> reporter: but any increase in troops is already facing opposition on capitol hill. >> i would not commit to more combat troops at this time. we need a surge of afghan troops. >> reporter: support esof general mcchrystal's strategy say training enough afghans take times so americans are needed to fill the gap. >> give the general what he needs. you see you have to have security in afghanistan. you have to have governance in afghanistan. >> reporter: he warns without it the taliban will take back control. >> when i ask general jones, did it necessarily follow that if the taliban comes back, al qaeda comes with them, he said, well, that's hypothetical. what do you think? >> it's like water running downhill. they

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joe biden favors things pairing down things more surgical. no more boots on the ground over there. >> fewer boots. steve: fewer boots. joe biden hasn't always come down on the right side of history. >> you are charitable. he has been on the wrong side of almost every major foreign policy decision since he came to the united states senate. this guy you can say where was joe biden on this foreign policy question and nine times out of 10 he will have been on the wrong side. this guy is the guy who opposed the first gulf war when the rest of the world said disham cannot hold on to kuwait. this guy was against it. foreign policy decisions since he was first elected in 1972, this guy is wrong. this one is particularly dangerous. it is a sort of seemingly half sounding, half measure kind of thing that ultimately would lead to a tremendous defeat. and, yet, during the meantime, cost american lives in the needless pursuit of a policy goal that could not be achieved given -- we tried that during the 1990s, we stood offshore in afghanistan and if someth

who are political and a lot with political experience who are weighing in including vice president joe biden, hillary clinton, secretary of state, recently senator, knows as much about politics in america as anybody. and i think what's happening is the democratic party, the face of the democratic party, which is impatient with barack obama on a number of fronts politically could really be ignited by a massive increase in troops, 40,000 from 68,000 is pretty darn big. it's a major commitment just in numbers. that's going to be very hard to sell to the base of the democratic party at a time when obama has so many other things he's trying to do politically but the problem you raise is an important one, he put mcchrystal in after firing the last guy, ok. mcchrystal comes up with the policy. now mcchrystal comes back and says, ok, in this war that you've hired me to run here's how we have to do it, we need 40,000 more troops. for obama to then say, you know what, never mind, is going to cause him political problems in the world, maybe not so much here within his own party but in the world. >> how

we know joe biden is against that idea.ere, the president, for the first time, has to ask republicans to support him. it is the republicans who will be on the side of the president, for a change, at least according to the plans that he laid out a few months ago. this is the first time we have seen the president made with republicans in his office en masse, in several months. martha: john mccain has been very outspoken on this. he believes nothing short of a troop surge, giving the general what he wants will get the job done. also, and general jones said that he disagrees about the way that this should be handled. >> i am a big fan of senator mccain, but in this case, and general jones, from his public position, has been good at opposing things without helping to conceptualize any viable alternative. he went to afghanistan in june and told commanders on the ground, you have all that you are going to get. now he is criticizing general mcchrystal, throwing cold water on the idea of additional troops. he has not said what is a

joe biden is pushing key troops at current levels. he says he would rather see an increase in technology and targeted stripes. another strategy meeting is scheduled for wednesday. the spokesman said that this is not a meeting that he's going to talk about quickly. >> an agenda where we're going through as we're talking about the goal, the strategy to accomplish the goal and ultimately we'll get towards get to decisions needed to i am pmpt a strategy. >> american is split down the middle on whether to send u.s. troops to afghanistan. 40% say yes and 45% say no. roadside bombs killed coalition troops and troops have been killed in afghanistan since the war began. >>> the president being awarded the nobel peace prize has caused controversy. >> it's such a joke. >> also quick to dismiss the award, they say it should have gone to people who have made real achievements, and they are starting to back pedal. they are now engineering when the current president gets the peace price. meanwhile, a huge embarrassment for president bush, they say i

the administration, he could side with the faction inside the administration led by vice president joe biden, that is pushing for a limited counterterrorism effort. that includes more predator drones and keeping the force level about the same. and despite the fact that the general on the ground is recommending an increase in forces, we talked about that, with the group of senators, on "fox news sunday" and it was interesting that the democrats, not surprisingly, tried to deflect the possible public rift between vice president biden and general mcchrystal, and republican lindsey graham and saxby chand lis said the general should rule the day since he's on the ground making the request with-the-knowledge he has and it is the biggest decision from president obama the coming weeks and it is something he's meeting again twice behind closed doors this week about. >> jamie: we know the taliban is really present but there is a chance al qaeda regrouped. many of the al qaeda factions in the south are now in pakistan. how much time do we really have for the president to make the decision, because our

he is meeting with joe biden and hillary clinton this afternoon to discuss his options. but he's also reviewing a report from the afghanistan commander, general stanley mcchrystal. and what it does is it lays out possible stages of military escalati escalation. we're hearing numbers anywhere between 10 and 40,000 additional troops. mcchrystal strongly recommends the highest number. >>> so we have been asking for your views on this very topic, on afghanistan. who do you think president obama should listen to? want to go straight to the phones. and first let's talk to bob calling from akron, ohio. what do you think about the possibility of adding 10 to 40,000 additional troops there? >> well, i believe we should do whatever it takes. i always have believed in staying together, and the troops that are over there right now, they have to definitely feel like they're going to be left out. and we sent them over there, and we're not going to give them the support they need. how do you think they feel? i mean -- and to win this thing, whenever our country stayed together, and wen

. >> joe biden will be touring the capital breast center. is breast cancer awareness month. >>> david letterman has spent years keeping his personal life out of the spotlight. >> he announced last night that he was blackmailed into a bidding affairs with members of his staff. mike is live with more on the shocking revelation. >> when a bomb shell. last by, it felt more like a late night drama. three weeks ago, letterman said he got in his car with a package that said i know you do some terrible things. he had to pay up or risk public embarrassment. the audience got more than they expected. he told them he was the target of a $2 million blackmail attempt. >> there seems to be quite a lot of things he knows about. he will put it into a movie unless i give him some money. >> paid the money or private relationships will be made public. >> i have had sex with women who work for me on this show. would it be embarrassing if it were made public? perhaps it would. especially for the women. >> it is not the first time he has tried to diffuse painful m

. >>> 6 of the nine justices joined joe biden for the annual red mass. this was at the cathedral of st. matthew the apostle. there was a plea for the rights of the unborn, protesters were demonstrating in front of the church. >>> the deadline to register for the virginia election is today. the governor's race is not sparking a lot of registration activity. many virginians are already in the system. 436,000 new voters registered between january and october of last year. >>> creigh deeds will make a campaign stop in the shirlington shopping center in arlington. along with mark warner and jim moran. there will be speaking about the plan to jump-start the economy. it includes a tax credit for any job created. >>> the campaign is getting more money from the democratic national committee. they plan to announce they're donating at another $1 million. they're also planning to donate resources including staffers and expertise in technology. they are stepping up the commitment after seeing the lead by bob mcdonnell lesson. >>> despite another rocky start, coach zo

we understand vice president joe biden getting out on the trail. white house picks its spots to use him. why are they using him here? >> joe-joe is the congressional candidates sugar daddy. he's spending a lot of time especially with house candidates especially with ones who may be in danger sending the message to them that if they take tough votes for the white house, that the administration will be there to help them. so he's been out on the road a lot. he's going to continue to do more events partly this preserves the president's political capital but also he's been very popular in these events having the vp there draws a lot of publicity, good will and so he's done a lot and will do a bunch more. >> he's great out on the stump. >> everyone likes him. >> we love him. we love him. he's our guy. thank you. >> joe biden for people that haven't hung out for joe biden, he's a very, very likable guy. i would think he would be custom built for this time of event. go shake hands with congressmen. backyard barbecue and raise half a million. >> mr. obama i

today, he is meeting with vice president joe biden and secretary of state hillary clinton this afternoondiscuss his different options. but he also reviewing this report. this report is from the afghanistan commander there, general stanley mcchrystal. and it lays out possible stages of military escalation, talking about adding possibly anywhere from between 10,000 to 40,000 more u.s. troops. mcchrystal strongly recommends the highest number. and we are asking you to weigh in on this story today. who do you think president obama should listen to? we'll have that conversation coming up in just about 15 minutes time. call us and let us know. a lot of strong opinions on both sides of the aisle there on that story. >>> people who live in a small new hampshire town are horrified by an attack that left a 42-year-old nurse dead and her 11-year-old daughter in the hospital. four teenagers are accused of bursting into their home, armed with a machete. our affiliate has this story. >> reporter: the procession moved forward in silence, hundreds of residents, friends, family and neighbors turning out

. >>> it was a special homecoming for vice president joe biden. his oldest son was returning from a year-long deployment in iraq. >> as an american, i am awed by the quality and significance of your service. as a parent, as a father, i can't tell you the feeling i have in welcoming home a son. >> the pentagon recently announced more troops will return home by the end of the month. >>> michelle obama is in denmark today as the white house pushes to bring the 2016 olympics to chicago. the president is on his way to copenhagen for an hour of ground time to meet with members of the international olympic committee. it is still up in the air if the president's visit will help chicago's chances. >> the new and transformation leader in a country that is important to the world and the olympic movement. he comes here to say this is my country and is behind the bid. that is better than having the senior public servant saying that. >> chicago is competing against rio and madrid and tokyo for the bid to host the 2016 games. the ioc will announce the decision t

she and joe biden with an iraq war veteran. cliff lee so cool. look at him just catch that. his manager digging that. and watch this behind the back here. this guy gave one of the greatest performances as he would lead the yankees to -- i'm sorry, the phillies to a win. the phillies take game one. >>> in other news with the bay bridge closed down yesterday the houston rockets could not get from their hotel in san francisco to their game in oakland against golden state. now the nba requires teams to take buses for security reasons but they couldn't. they were going to take public transportation but police said not a good idea. they took a ferry. planes, trains and rockets -- or planes, trains and rockets. they won by a point. >>> mark sanchez made a doggone nice gesture. he was seen eating a hot dog on the sidelines. he apologized but then bought 500 dogs and burgers and donated them to a new jersey soup kitchen says the team's twitter page. for a guy who makes millions it was probably pocket change. hot dog gate over. >>> a jury awards a family almost $1 million who sued lou

vice president joe biden is expected to say tomorrow that fiskar automotive will build plug-in hybrid vehicles at the plant in his home state. we've talked about the karma, being built in finland right now, it will go on sale next year. i think it's pretty expensive right now, robin. they're saying give us a little government help and eventually this car will get cheaper and then everybody can afford it. >> a plug-in car, okay. come to mama. >>> police are on a mission to look for criminals before they can strike again. we'll explain their door-to-door search for more than 1,000 registered sex offenders. >>> the tea party express is back on the road again. the conservatore is holding rallies in 19 cities. they're protesting government programs they say cost too much and take too much control out of people's hands. >> we need to get back to the days when we were responsible and we assumed the responsibility of ourselves and our families and the government is not a part of my daily life. i really resent the government taking up so much of my time that i'm down here, having to protest ri

joe biden has been talking about that publicly, that the good way to handle this is similar to how they are handling al qaeda in pakistan. it seems that the republicans are saying, john mccain has been out there, saying that we need to look at what general mcchrystal is saying, bringing the same strategy that we brought to iraq to afghanistan. shepard: good to see you. when he makes a decision, you will call us? >> you know it. shepard: thank you. they said they believed that their faith would heal their dying daughter. they did not go to the doctor. their daughter died. the decision from the judge, next. or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. shepard: ok, parents from wisconsin prayed for their dying daughter that she would not die. they did not take her to the hospital and she died. they are back in court, expected to learn their prison sentence and a moment. their last name is newman, charged with reckless homicide. their daughter was 11-year-old natalie. she h

ece fostvele >> joe biden said a million jobs have been created greta: i know he lost jobs. >> there is a little bit of a dilution in going gone. i talked about -- talk to my white house sources. they are freaked out. we have been losing jobs at a slower pace. we lost over a quarter million jobs. there are two surveys. the other survey indicated over half a million jobs lost. it suggests he is not been totally truthful. greta: i know the housing looks better. people say we are in a recession, but that is a tag economists have put on. it is a con stretch. you can call it a depression. is there is that what is going on. it is important that the stimulus package actually work. is the white house convinced? >> i think they are very nervous about it. i think they were expecting 2 million where 3 million jobs by now. greta: how did they expect -- explained that not happening? >> they keep saying created or saved. greta: have been saved? >> your job has been saved. i think we do need a new stimulus bill. not the stimulus that we have had. the spinning has not worked. i would do a big tax cu

he could affirm the strategy and back general mcchrystal and send in more troops and go with joe biden and have just withdraw troops and have a counterterrorism strategy, which you can do anyway because we're already doing it. the president going after al qaeda chieftains and so on, or the third strategy, you don't change strategy but have a halfway measure and the one you hear is well, we'll send in ten thousand troops and they will be trainers for the afghan troops, in other words, we will say we're sticking there but it is a half measure and it will lead to defeat. that's what i'm afraid the white house will do. jim: charles on half measures, one of the things is we have tried to get the afghans to go along with us. we have made certain commitments. the historian bernard lewis said a few years ago when we were talking about withdrawing from iraq that the u.s. risked being seen as harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend. is that the kind of judgment that is hanging in the balance here? >> look, if you're -- the war in afghanistan ends on which way the people go. the enemy ha

. >> in the vice-presidential debate, joe biden was asked. he talked about the supreme court confirmation and what the role was. he was very proud of the fact that he as the chairman of the judiciary committee led the opposition, at least that is what he said. sarah palin obviously did not know anything about it because she did not have an answer. >> obviously, one thing the vice president is talking about is that the senate shifted control so he became chairman of the committee. if you look at the broader canvas, the patterns remain the same. >> do we have another question? over here. >> [inaudible] i was wondering if it is possible that obama himself did not have the courage to explain fully what he meant in the first place. he was not interested in the generic empathy, that is if it is a corporate case, i really feel like what it is like to be a ceo. will you be empathetic to the labor union member? if he had said -- if he said when he talks about and if the, this court is too favorable to corporations, it is not favorable enough to unions

vice president joe biden attended the service. >>> today, the virginia governor's race really heats up. it is the last day to register to vote in virginia ander just one month out from election day. recent poll have shown that mcdonnell's lead against deeds has narrowed. deeds will be campaigning today in arlington. after today's registration has passed, the bush for votes will intense identify. >> you will see a lot of talk about bob mcdonnell being too conservative and you will see that in northern virginia with ads perhaps targeting women. you will see bob mcdonnell calling creigh deeds too liberal. >> since this is i not a national race, turnout is expected to be much lower than last year's presidential election inform you live in virginia and have not yet registered to vote, you have to do so before 5:00 p.m. today. >>> our big story this morning. more activity is expected at mckinley tech high school in northeast washington after this chaotic scene on friday. tempers flared after 388 workers, mostly teachers, were laid off. those layoffs are intended to help deal with the school

. >> we do want to call our viewers attention to comments you made by the vice president, joe biden. he said turn employment numbers are tough news but the u.s. is doing the right thing to move in the right direction. he also said that the u.s. will, in fact, recover despite these disappointing numb fwers this morning. of course, we had the labor secretary on earlier. she also says that they were unexpectable. these numbers. >> down 263,000. much worse than expectations. let's get back to the discussion on financials. one of the best performer, of course, in the last quarter. how do you foresee things developing in this quarter in a scenario where you may have a continued flattening of the yield curve? >> well, i mean, the yield curve is already incredibly wide. and certainly, you know, banks have been huge owners of fixed rate instruments so they could certainly take advantage by selling. from a spread perspective, you know, banks interest rate spreads are rising nicely because they're charging more to customers on new loans or refinanced loans, from a spread perspective. deposit fu

fact is that unemployment is a lagging indicator and this is what your boss, the vice president, joe biden had to say about it earlier today. >> those facts and those realities aren't good enough for president obama and not good enough for me. we don't think that less bad is good. less bad is not our measure of success. one job lost is one job too many and still too much pain. there's still too many hard-working americans without a paycheck and still too many americans still struggling to get by. >> and on top of the unemployment numbers, bad numbers on factory orders. are you beginning to be concerned that the recession is not really over and the recovery is not rebounding as you all have been expecting or hoping. >> well, it's a good question, andrea. and the answer, you're right, you and i have been talking about this from the beginning. is that you don't make a judgment based on one month of data. you have to look at the bigger picture. now, we have been very careful to say, and you and i have talked about this. it's not a recovery. whatever technical definition you want to give. not a

she and the second lady, joe biden, along with former yankee yogi berra and iraq war veteran. the story of the game was this guy, phillies' pitcher cliff lee. look how cool that dude is. charlie manuel's like, whatever. look at this behind-the-back catch. lee went the entire distance. he struck out ten batters, pitched the whole game and won game one for philly. >> lee looked a little confident there. >> the guy said he was not nervous at all. he was unbelievable. he was like ben stein out there. >> he was awesome. thanks, rafer. >>> this is a crazy story you want to stick around for here. people who deliberately expose themselves, rafer, to the h1n1 virus, the so-called swine flu virus, could be gambling with their lives. but they're doing this. the cdc posted the warning on the website. the idea here they are thinking of, these people are, infect each other now so they have immunity later on when a stronger strain might appear. health officials warn there's no way you'll know how sick you'll get trying to do this. >> we have no confirmation that anyone has actually done this

$787 billion package is helping the economy and has saved literally millions of jobs according to joe bidend or created millions of jobs. on the other hand they have the continuing escalating unemployment figures, 9.5%, 9.6%, 9.8%, on a month-to-month basis announced for september just yesterday. the white house very difficult line that they have to walk here. all the while, trying to maintain those expectations, keep them high, or low as the case may be, saying they fully because unemployment is a lagging indicator, because the economy gets better before the numbers go down, that those numbers could exceed 10% before all is said and done. meanwhile, republicans continue to hammer the president, say the stimulus package is uneffective, some of his other priorities and initiatives like the energy bill, the cap and trade bill are job killers. here's candice miller, a republican from michigan, from a hard hit area that is facing high unemployment. >> democrats are actually redoubling their efforts to implement job killing policies that will stretch family budgets even further and pile more deb

basically, it's a turkey burger. [ laughter ] the restaurant also created new sandwich named after joe biden, it's just a hamburger shaped like a foot. [ laughter ] [ applause ] why? why i ought to -- yesterday, hockey legend wayne gretzky said that he's quitting as head coach of the phoenix coyotes. people in phoenix couldn't believe it, they were like, "we have a hockey team in phoenix?" [ laughter ] "cool. i didn't know that." on the cbs show "48 hours mystery," john gotti's daughter victoria admitted for the first time that her father was a killer. and today, cbs went missing. [ laughter ] i just want to say, i don't know john -- i have no connection to john gotti. he seems like a great guy. [ light laughter ] a new study by the university of new hampshire shows that children who were spanked have lower iqs. no kidding. if they had higher iqs, they'd stop doing things they got spanked for. [ laughter ] right? [ cheers and applause ] that's why. and finally, an unhappy customer filed a lawsuit against the bank of america for over $1 trillion. and if this guy wins, two of the bank executiv

there was stanley mcchrystal at his speech in london describing joe biden's plan for afghanistan as chaosistan and rebuke by general jones, and the white house refuse to go get into it. what do you make of this? >> i think it depends on your goal. obviously, the vice president is concerned about al qaeda, and he feels that al qaeda's presence in pakistan is the main thing we should be concerned about. on the other hand, there are those who feel we need to improve the situation in afghanist afghanistan, not just militarily, but also in terms of developing assistance and nation-building. there are a lot of different goals here, and the president basically has to decide what the goal is. obviously, the prime goal is to prevent the resurgence of al qaeda. >> but do we have a discipline problem right now about the chain of command as far as the message in all of this? >> i don't think so. i think that different people are giving the president advice, and he has to make a decision. i don't think it's necessarily bad that there's a lot of different advice out there, because he should take his time, a

then he went on to describe joe biden as his weird talkative cousin. [ laughter ] i read about this.his is crazy. a woman in indonesia gave birth -- did you hear about this? to a 19-pound baby boy this week. [ audience oohs ] the heaviest newborn ever recorded in that country. she knew her baby was big when the doctor said, "congratulations. it's a man." [ laughter ] the doctor had to use wire cutters for the umbilical cord. he's like, "i'm sorry about this, this is just --" [ laughter ] when the lady's water broke, three people drowned. [ laughter ] i mean, it was that -- big of a baby. he's a beautiful baby. yesterday the cast and crew of nbc's "law & order" celebrated the show's 20th anniversary. [ cheers and applause ] that's very good. thony anderson is on tonight. our pal anthony. it was good. i heard the party was fun but i heard the d.j. was just terrible. [ "law and order" sound ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] "i can't dance to that. i can't dance to that. [ laughter ] play another song." "i just can't get into that." [ laughter ] cnn's dr. sanjay gupta announced yesterday on hi

it's being debated by people with a lot of political experience, like vice president joe biden, like former senator hillary rodham clinton. by rahm emanuel, the chief of staff and former member of the house. they're looking at it politically, too, in terms of what they can explain and sell to increasingly rested democrats on the hill having doubts about it. to me, the most fascinating character could be hillary rodham clinton, outflanked in the democratic primaries by barack obama insisting the key war was afghanistan and not iraq. now she's sitting in the room while barack obama confronts the consequences of the way he ran the campaign. >> we'll be right back. with you and pat. pat, hold on there. i'll get back to you later on in the program. >>> let's bring in democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania, member of the foreign relations committee. senator casey, are those the right questions? how many troops can we send over to afghanistan? more than the 68,000? if so, how long do we keep them there and what can they actually get done if they stay there a significant amount of time

vice president joe biden returned to de -- delaware on wednesday.welcomed his son home from iraq. 1,000 people turned out to welcome home the 261st signal brigade. it returned from a year-long deployment. bo biden is the delaware attorney general. he is expected to run for his father's senate seat next year. >>> as for the war if iraq, president obama is looking for a strategy. he wants a clear one before committing more troops. samantha hayes has more on the big meeting at the white house. >> reporter: behind closed doors, president obama and 18 others on his national security team focus on afghanistan and back stan in the second of five planned meetings. the big question, whether to send more troops to afghanistan. >> what is crucial in this situation is that we get a strategy, that we get benchmarks to measure that strategy, to constantly reassess where we are and the progress we are making. >> reporter: but the president is facing conflicting opinions within his own administration and congress amid the growing number of u.s. casualties in afghan