carbon copies, right? majority of voters don't want their governor, but home state voters are always tough on their own. that's not a surprise there. but hillary clinton, double digit leads, joe biden, deficits. >> you're getting no big send off for either of these two very popular governors this their own states for 2016, especially when you match them up against hillary clinton, who has a double digit lead and is over 50% against both of them. so hillary clinton is a very different hillary clinton than she was 20 years ago as first lady and maybe even as a senator from new york. the last chapter in her has been secretary of state and she's ri riding that right now. we'll see where that one goes. but no send off from the local folks for either of these two governors who are very popular, but not necessarily for 2016. >> not surprising she's ahead in new jersey, but having a double digit lead. very surprising. lee, mark, we've got a lot more on this poll, exclusive polls today. we're going to do a deeper dive in fact on this and the state of play in both governor's races. we have that on our website and we'll also have that later in the show, but up next, obama on the record.