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our senior washington correspondent joe johns is here with a closer look at the ships and the planes, the satellites involved. this is a massive undertaking. >> it's amazing, wolf. staggers assets are being used in the search for the plane. 43 ships along with 58 or more aircraft. one expert we talked to says it's likely a dozen satellites have been utilized. now as the focus has turned to the remote southern indian ocean, equipment with military intelligence technology is playing a key role. a massive sea search that requires an equally massive amount of resources on land, air and seas. it starts in space. satellite images transferred to the australian geo spatial intelligence organization. the pictures of possible plane debris captured march 16, but it took them four days to sort through the volume of the imagery. china also helps satellite images before releasing them to the public. >> part of it is not telling the other guy what you got. the reason for that is there's some capabilities that a lot of countries want to keep hidden. one of those capabilities is how fast can you take
our senior washington correspondent joe johns is here with a closer look at the ships and the planes, the satellites involved. this is a massive undertaking. >> it's amazing, wolf. staggers assets are being used in the search for the plane. 43 ships along with 58 or more aircraft. one expert we talked to says it's likely a dozen satellites have been utilized. now as the focus has turned to the remote southern indian ocean, equipment with military intelligence technology is playing a key...
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anything unusual. >> reporter: joe johns, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to joe johns. we also learned that among the passengers was a malaysian civil aviation engineer who worked for a private jet charter company. his father told cnn today that he's confident his son was not involved in any plot. >>> coming up on "the lead," looking beyond the pilots, what do we know about the passengers? we'll talk about the questions that should be asked about every person on board. >>> also, a little payback, perhaps? vladimir putin planning his own sanctions against several prominent u.s. lawmakers. who's on the list? coming up. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition in charge™. [ bottle ] ensure®. if yand you're talking toevere rheuyour rheumatologistike me, about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain. this is humira helping me lay
anything unusual. >> reporter: joe johns, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to joe johns. we also learned that among the passengers was a malaysian civil aviation engineer who worked for a private jet charter company. his father told cnn today that he's confident his son was not involved in any plot. >>> coming up on "the lead," looking beyond the pilots, what do we know about the passengers? we'll talk about the questions that should be asked about every person on...
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thanks very much, joe johns for that.eeper right now with cnn's richard quest, he's joining us from new york. so why has there been so much confusion from the malaysians, richard? you know them, you were just in kuala lumpur, you actually flew on one of those planes with the co-pilot in this particular case. what's going on here? >> i don't think there has been confusion, wolf. i'm going to take a contrarian view here, i think what you're looking at is an investigation that has been this point relatively thorough. we would all be excoriating the malaysians if they had diverted resources to the indian ocean for those pings to be proved to be untrue. what they got here, wolf, was data from imarsat on the 12th. the americans and the brits were part of the analysis on the 13th. they said we need more data, we're not happy with what we have got, it went back to the americans and the brits, and by the 15th, you get, yes, we all agree. if you're going to start moving ships from the south china sea all the way down to the western
thanks very much, joe johns for that.eeper right now with cnn's richard quest, he's joining us from new york. so why has there been so much confusion from the malaysians, richard? you know them, you were just in kuala lumpur, you actually flew on one of those planes with the co-pilot in this particular case. what's going on here? >> i don't think there has been confusion, wolf. i'm going to take a contrarian view here, i think what you're looking at is an investigation that has been this...
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let's bring in joe johns from washington now. recent developments. >> this was marcia fudge of ohio with the congressional black caucus. it may be bigger than that. she offered what's called a privileged resolution on the house floor alleging that the chairman of the house oversight and reform committee darrel issa acted inappropriately trying to turn off the microphones and trying to adjourn the meeting while congressman alijah cummings of maryland was raising objections to the way the committee was proceeding. marcia fudge essentially read this resolution. it doesn't have to be enacted immediately. bottom line, it's not likely to do far. the house of representatives as you know sort of operates as a place that is generated by force. republicans control the house of representatives. the bottom line on this is that it's escalation in the house of representatives over this fight, this spat, that occurred just yesterday in committee. and what is this about? the question of alleged irs targeting of groups including tea partiers that
let's bring in joe johns from washington now. recent developments. >> this was marcia fudge of ohio with the congressional black caucus. it may be bigger than that. she offered what's called a privileged resolution on the house floor alleging that the chairman of the house oversight and reform committee darrel issa acted inappropriately trying to turn off the microphones and trying to adjourn the meeting while congressman alijah cummings of maryland was raising objections to the way the...
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joe johns, you've been looking into that for us. what is it about the flight path and behavior that tells investigators that it could be accidental as opposed to intentional. >> jim, this goes into the category of things that can't be ruled out as long as a black box is not recovered. a sudden change in direction suggests that something went wrong on the plane very rapidly. if that's true, the plane dropped altitude rapidly, that could have been because of a sudden decompression problem which could be explained by any breach, a big fire, explosion, even an open door. with this scenario, there could have only been seconds to react before passing out. the pilots would have been trying to get the plane to an altitude where the people on board could get oxygen. if it's true, the plane flew for hours afterwards and the question is whether the crew was incapacitated, jim. >> as we're learning more about the flight's path, you know, this hard turn that flight 370 took into the southern indian ocean, if these current calculations are correc
joe johns, you've been looking into that for us. what is it about the flight path and behavior that tells investigators that it could be accidental as opposed to intentional. >> jim, this goes into the category of things that can't be ruled out as long as a black box is not recovered. a sudden change in direction suggests that something went wrong on the plane very rapidly. if that's true, the plane dropped altitude rapidly, that could have been because of a sudden decompression problem...
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joe johns, cnn, washington. >> joe johns, thanks. >>> the search for flight 370 is not only large buty expensive. it could ultimately costs hundreds of millions of dollars. >>> when we come back, a simpler theory, could everyone have lost consciousness and it ran on autopilot until it ran out of fuel? mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. i takbecause you can't beatrning for my frzero heartburn.n. woo hoo! [ male announcer ] prilosec otc is the number one doctor recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 8 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. more now on missing flight 370. why would it turn off course and then continue on for hours? one theory gaining credence
joe johns, cnn, washington. >> joe johns, thanks. >>> the search for flight 370 is not only large buty expensive. it could ultimately costs hundreds of millions of dollars. >>> when we come back, a simpler theory, could everyone have lost consciousness and it ran on autopilot until it ran out of fuel? mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from...
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joe johns, thanks very much. >>> just ahead, violent weather caused pressure search hours. search has resumed. a plane has just taken off from perth, australia. 11 others, including a p-8, poseidon, getting ready to take off. u.s. officials suspect this could be a good day given the weather conditions and relatives of passengers stormed the malaysian embassy in beijing. you're going to hear from a family member, why they are so angry and so upset at the malaysian government. ♪ humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures, living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back, offering exclusive products like optional better car replacement, where, if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask an insurance expert about all our benefits today, like our 24/7 support and service, because at liberty mutual insurance, we believe our customers do their best out there in the world, so we do everything we can to be there for them when they need us. plus, you could save hundreds when you switch -- up to $423
joe johns, thanks very much. >>> just ahead, violent weather caused pressure search hours. search has resumed. a plane has just taken off from perth, australia. 11 others, including a p-8, poseidon, getting ready to take off. u.s. officials suspect this could be a good day given the weather conditions and relatives of passengers stormed the malaysian embassy in beijing. you're going to hear from a family member, why they are so angry and so upset at the malaysian government. ♪ humans...
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our joe johns has that story. >> reporter: so why did it take four days for the public to learn thatlane may have flown for several hours in either of two corridors away from the area being searched last week? the malaysian government said it took that long for experts, including some from the u.s., to reach a con sen shsensus about satellite data. even now, obviously, the reliability is not clear. >> from what we have gathered from the communication with the pilot, we have not come to any conclusion. >> reporter: wednesday, march 12th, is when the malaysian government got the information from the inmarsat. >> the u.s. team and investigation teams of malaysia are processing what was needed before it could be used. >> reporter: the 13th, results cam back but further refinement was needed so the data was sent back to the u.s. again. friday the 14th malaysia says the results were received about 2:30 in the afternoon and presented at a high-level meeting where the u.s., the uk, and others processing the information concurred. saturday the 15th, the malaysian prime minister was briefed on
our joe johns has that story. >> reporter: so why did it take four days for the public to learn thatlane may have flown for several hours in either of two corridors away from the area being searched last week? the malaysian government said it took that long for experts, including some from the u.s., to reach a con sen shsensus about satellite data. even now, obviously, the reliability is not clear. >> from what we have gathered from the communication with the pilot, we have not come...
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we want to bring in our senior washington correspondent, joe johns.s been following the investigation. joe, we know now that they confiscated the pilot's flight simulator, his personal flight simulator, from his house. of course, they waited a week to do that. but what do we now know about what this might reveal? >> we know a little what they were looking for. looking for records on the hard drive or software in the simulator that might tell them whether the captain practiced unusual maneuvers or approaches to other airports. the other issue is whether anyone besides the captain may have trained on that simulator, and if so, investigators want to locate those persons and find out what they know. that said, there's still nothing the authorities have made public suggesting a motive to take at that plane and fly it off course and is make it disappear. >> and, of course, a lot of pilots here saying that's not uncommon for pilots to have simulator in their own home. we also know that the pilot has been a supporter of the malaysian opposition party and that
we want to bring in our senior washington correspondent, joe johns.s been following the investigation. joe, we know now that they confiscated the pilot's flight simulator, his personal flight simulator, from his house. of course, they waited a week to do that. but what do we now know about what this might reveal? >> we know a little what they were looking for. looking for records on the hard drive or software in the simulator that might tell them whether the captain practiced unusual...
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i'm pamela brown. >> i'm joe johns.where malaysia flight 870 vanishlast reported off the coast of vietnam. a vietnamese radar spotted liquid and rubbish. >>> the faa is pushing back and appealing the court's decision. the agency says the operator violated the strip laws by not getting authorized for flight ahead of time. the faa argues the court's ruling puts the safety of people and property on the ground in jeopardy. >>> number three, was oscar pistorius a paranoid, cheating gun-loving man with a temperaturer? the emotional ex-girlfriend accused the sprinter of cheating on her with reeva steenkamp, the model he later shot to death. >>> and at the paraolympic games, as a symbolic protest, ukraine's team sent one of athletes to carry the flag into the stadium. originally, ukraine threatened to pull out of the games during the crisis and warned they will drop out if russia escalates the conflict. >> number five, today, international observers will try for the further time to enter crimea. the past two days, a team of abo
i'm pamela brown. >> i'm joe johns.where malaysia flight 870 vanishlast reported off the coast of vietnam. a vietnamese radar spotted liquid and rubbish. >>> the faa is pushing back and appealing the court's decision. the agency says the operator violated the strip laws by not getting authorized for flight ahead of time. the faa argues the court's ruling puts the safety of people and property on the ground in jeopardy. >>> number three, was oscar pistorius a paranoid,...
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joe johns, live for us in washington, d.c. and, again, these developments just happening. so joe, keep us posted if there is anything more that the cia director says, as well. >>> this area that's being searched has certainly grown since yesterday. and even if the teams knew exactly where the wide-body jet went down, the telltale signs would certainly be traveling with the currents, especially after all of this time. cnn's saima moshin spent her day at the mouth of the sea. >> reporter: this is no easy task. this c-130 plane has been carrying out regular search and rescue missions since flight mh-370 disappeared. it's the first time the minister for defense and transportation and the chief of defense force have been out to survey this massive operation. they invited cnn to join them. i have to put this life jacket on, because we're now descending to 500 feet above sea level. flying low, the doors are opened for the search to begin. we flew past a number of ships scouring the sea for the plane, those on board, or any clues at all to what happened. >> i just want to find the
joe johns, live for us in washington, d.c. and, again, these developments just happening. so joe, keep us posted if there is anything more that the cia director says, as well. >>> this area that's being searched has certainly grown since yesterday. and even if the teams knew exactly where the wide-body jet went down, the telltale signs would certainly be traveling with the currents, especially after all of this time. cnn's saima moshin spent her day at the mouth of the sea. >>...
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i'm pamela brown. >> i'm joe johns.ngs you need to know for your "new day". >>> disappearance of a malaysian airline jet suggests the jet may have turned back before vanishing off the southern coast of vietnam. meanwhile, we now know the two people who boarded the flight using stolen passports appear to have bought their tickets together and other names on the passenger manifest are now raising questions. >>> number two, a judge has set bond for a pregnant mother accused of trying to kill her three children at $1.32 million. yesterday ebony wilkerson made her initial court appearance after being charged with three counts of attempted first degree murder. according to police, wilkerson told her children to go to sleep before driving them into the ocean on tuesday. >>> number three, police have busted what could be one of the largest known counterfeit schemes in the united states. authorities say these two brothers, here you see them right here from new york made millions by selling knockoff products like chap stick, john
i'm pamela brown. >> i'm joe johns.ngs you need to know for your "new day". >>> disappearance of a malaysian airline jet suggests the jet may have turned back before vanishing off the southern coast of vietnam. meanwhile, we now know the two people who boarded the flight using stolen passports appear to have bought their tickets together and other names on the passenger manifest are now raising questions. >>> number two, a judge has set bond for a pregnant...
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joe johns is here. he's been digging into their background. >> we are learning bits and pieces about the lives of the pilots. for example, the captain of the 777 has been called a silent member of a malaysian opposition political party, but so far no signs pointing to malicious intent in the cockpit. surveillance video posted on social media appears to show the captain and first officer of flight 370 passing through airport security. cnn cannot confirm the authenticity of this video or exactly when it was shot. it doesn't show the men doing anything unusual, but the two are now facing intense scrutiny by investigators. >> on sunday night march, police officers visited the homes of the pilot and the co-pilot. they spoke to the family members of the pilot and co-pilot. police visited the homes of the pilot and co-pilot again on saturday. >> reporter: police have now searched the homes of both. authorities in plainclothes seen leaving the residence of fariq hamid and later seizing the flight simulator from
joe johns is here. he's been digging into their background. >> we are learning bits and pieces about the lives of the pilots. for example, the captain of the 777 has been called a silent member of a malaysian opposition political party, but so far no signs pointing to malicious intent in the cockpit. surveillance video posted on social media appears to show the captain and first officer of flight 370 passing through airport security. cnn cannot confirm the authenticity of this video or...
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joe johns, cnn, washington. >> thanks to joe johns. in the next hour, elijah cummings will hold a news conference. cnn will monitor his remarks beginning at 10:30 and bring you news if he makes any. >>> still to come, the u.s. now imposing sanctions on some russian and ukrainian officials. but how does that help de-escalade-eska l de-escalate this crisis? [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> good morning. thanks for joining me in this special hour of "newsroom." i'm jake tapper in for carol costello. top military officials are going to be defen
joe johns, cnn, washington. >> thanks to joe johns. in the next hour, elijah cummings will hold a news conference. cnn will monitor his remarks beginning at 10:30 and bring you news if he makes any. >>> still to come, the u.s. now imposing sanctions on some russian and ukrainian officials. but how does that help de-escalade-eska l de-escalate this crisis? [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a...
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joe johns thanks from istanbul due to news from ukraine which is looking at painful cuts to meet the conditions of the unannounced just approved bailout plan include a cut to pensions of up to fifty percent plus and tens of thousands of government jobs and scaling back subsidies for fuel healthcare and education the lawmakers and to have rejected that plan in the first vote but later pass that after interim prime minister are sending its annual himself behind the reforms ukraine's state coffers are in desperate need of a boost and the imf has agreed a package to help in our country. the deal required ukrainian moment is to cause painful reforms reforms that interim prime minister on sunday it's a new accent essentials. shaw. one of these laws and not accept it. we predict ukraine will default on its loan repayments. we also estimate the country's economy will shrink by tend to say all the snow. some twenty thousand civil servants ascend to the newsstand jones as pawns in their homes which will also see constitute pensions and healthcare systems. ukraine has danced and singleton forty
joe johns thanks from istanbul due to news from ukraine which is looking at painful cuts to meet the conditions of the unannounced just approved bailout plan include a cut to pensions of up to fifty percent plus and tens of thousands of government jobs and scaling back subsidies for fuel healthcare and education the lawmakers and to have rejected that plan in the first vote but later pass that after interim prime minister are sending its annual himself behind the reforms ukraine's state coffers...
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our senior washington correspondent joe johns has been following this story from the very start.alarms. >> that's for sure, wolf. for every big mystery, there are all these blind alleys, leads and tips that steer investigators in the wrong direction. in the case of the missing 777 could be the granddaddy of them all for false information. a satellite image appeared to show a plane above a jungle. it was spotted by a university student on a match search website that's being used by 3.6 million people, so-called crowd sourcing with map views trying to help find the missing plane. he said today this wasn't the plane authorities are looking for. epiphanies using images from space have turned out to be illusions more than once. remember the chinese satellite picture that looked like for a day the clue that would solve the case. three suspected floating absence floating in the china sea. turned up nothing. all but forgotten now. >> we found nothing. >> an i.t. analyst in the andaman islands thought he may have seen the plane flying low in satellite pictures, but not so much. the new ze
our senior washington correspondent joe johns has been following this story from the very start.alarms. >> that's for sure, wolf. for every big mystery, there are all these blind alleys, leads and tips that steer investigators in the wrong direction. in the case of the missing 777 could be the granddaddy of them all for false information. a satellite image appeared to show a plane above a jungle. it was spotted by a university student on a match search website that's being used by 3.6...
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. >> joe smithson and john carol, both from rural kentucky, have been charged with a litany of crimes which think say all stem from their addictions to prescription drugs. >> hill billy crack. >> just like heroin, but, you know, stick it up your nose. >> carroll has been sentenced to five years for theft and giving false information to a police officer. >> smithson was sentenced to one year for carrying a concealed weapon. >> >> he don't have no peace. >> for years. >> looking over your back. >> got 11 kids. i got eight boys and three girls. my oldest will be 19. i was real promiscuous when i was younger. >> i'm from kentucky. >> i got uncles down there bootleggers. like 190 proof, you're on fire. >> last time it was like $10 a jar. i don't drink no more, all my money goes to pills, now. i don't drink no more, i don't smoke pot. all my money goes to the pills. >> prescription pills create problems inside the jail as well. >> several nights ago we had inmate workers observe on camera passing what appeared to be >> prescription pills create problems inside the jail as well. >> several n
. >> joe smithson and john carol, both from rural kentucky, have been charged with a litany of crimes which think say all stem from their addictions to prescription drugs. >> hill billy crack. >> just like heroin, but, you know, stick it up your nose. >> carroll has been sentenced to five years for theft and giving false information to a police officer. >> smithson was sentenced to one year for carrying a concealed weapon. >> >> he don't have no peace....
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joe johns is in washington. >> we know quite a bit.ining what happened is tougher. the head of interpol, rob noble, a well-known law enforcement executive said, the more information they get, the more they are inclined to conclude, this wasn't a terrorism incident. this appears to be part of a human smuggling issue, though there is no clarification on what he meant by that. parsing that entire statement seems to be suggesting terrorism has not been completely ruled out and we know the search for something conclusive continues on all fronts. interpol has been looking into the fact that these two passengers had used stolen austrian and italian passports. they have questioned the travel agency. both believed to be iranian nationals. the 19-year-old was looking for asylum and wanted to go to germany where his mother lived. pieces of the puzzle here, the important thing, i think, to take away, is that notion that terrorism doesn't look like the problem but they haven't ruled anything out, carol. >> nick, malaysian authorities say they are f
joe johns is in washington. >> we know quite a bit.ining what happened is tougher. the head of interpol, rob noble, a well-known law enforcement executive said, the more information they get, the more they are inclined to conclude, this wasn't a terrorism incident. this appears to be part of a human smuggling issue, though there is no clarification on what he meant by that. parsing that entire statement seems to be suggesting terrorism has not been completely ruled out and we know the...
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. >> joe johns has been following the developments since that heated exchange., has there been any kind of response from house speaker john boehner over the calls to remove darrell issa? >> i think you could say disagreement at the highest level on this. minority leader pelosi had a news conference calling the behavior totally disrespectful toward cummings. house speaker boehner was asked about it and he said in his view chairman issa acted appropriately and he supports issa. in fact the house voted on a resolution brought by democrats to have issa removed, that was tabled on a straight party line vote earlier today. republicans control the house. issa is a republican. boehner knows the power of tea party politics in this country. tea partiers very concerned that some of them may have been targeted by the irs. and that is the nucleus of the controversy. >> joe johns, thank you very much. coming up next, mayors from some of the largest cities here in the country meeting today in chicago to talk about how they're facing the challenges within their own cities and t
. >> joe johns has been following the developments since that heated exchange., has there been any kind of response from house speaker john boehner over the calls to remove darrell issa? >> i think you could say disagreement at the highest level on this. minority leader pelosi had a news conference calling the behavior totally disrespectful toward cummings. house speaker boehner was asked about it and he said in his view chairman issa acted appropriately and he supports issa. in...
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joe johns, cnn, washington. >>> on top of all of this, the strongest storm on earth right now is alsorning on australia's west coast. >> let's find out where it's going and what impact it might have on the search. >> the search area to the south, not going to be impacted by it, because the storm system itself about 1900 miles or 3,000 kilometers north of the region. so imagine this over cuba and you're talking and areas around maine being the newly defined search area. the winds are 260 kilometers strong or 161 miles per hour. so this could be a category 5 hurricane if it was in the atlantic ocean. a menacing storm. and the reason i bring this to your attention, you take a look. the satellite picture gave us two arcs where the search is still taking place. but this area is where we have a lot of people and a lot of people have been disrupted because of the search and the weather pattern in that region. swells some 31 feet high. if there's any sort of debris on the surface, with 31-foot swells there, you're going to have that submerged to the bottom. you take a look, go down to this le
joe johns, cnn, washington. >>> on top of all of this, the strongest storm on earth right now is alsorning on australia's west coast. >> let's find out where it's going and what impact it might have on the search. >> the search area to the south, not going to be impacted by it, because the storm system itself about 1900 miles or 3,000 kilometers north of the region. so imagine this over cuba and you're talking and areas around maine being the newly defined search area. the...
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. >> i'm joe johns. 10:00 on the east, 7:00 in the west. you're in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with a mystery at sea unfolding now under the cover of darkness. after a jet carrying 239 people vanished off the southern coast of vietnam. >> just last hour malaysian transportation official vowed the search will continue around clock. he said this. >> we cannot detect the aircraft. but we are very sure that the disappearance will be around in the sea. it won't be on the land. >> the uss is now headed from the south china sea to the area where malaysia airline flight mh-370 was last reported as liquid and rubbish are spotted in waters off whmalaysia and vietnam. >> three americans including an infant were on board the 777 from kul and an austrian wasn't board at all and that his passport was stolen two years ago. the same may be true in the case of an italian citizen. >> let's bring in cnn airline and correspondent richard quest following the qup dw ing thing . what do you make of this talk of passports missing and so on. does that give you any reason to believe that this w
. >> i'm joe johns. 10:00 on the east, 7:00 in the west. you're in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with a mystery at sea unfolding now under the cover of darkness. after a jet carrying 239 people vanished off the southern coast of vietnam. >> just last hour malaysian transportation official vowed the search will continue around clock. he said this. >> we cannot detect the aircraft. but we are very sure that the disappearance will be around in the sea. it won't be on the...
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. >> joe johns is here with the latest. congressional black caucus, does that mean that they're suggesting something was racial about this incident? >> a lot more caucus, a lot more politics, a lot less race i think is probably the way you can best put it. the cbc is involved in part because elijah cummings is former chair. but speaking with the current chair, she doesn't see race as having anything to do with it. and people close to cummings says he sees race even as a distraction. we're being told a similar situation involving issa shutting down the mike occurred in december and involved a white congressman, john tyranierney o massachusetts. so issa at least once had to apologize to cummings because of a remark that could be con viewvietrued as insensitive. >> speaker boehner said issa was within his rights. >> do you approve of the way he acted and are you prepared to say he won't replace him as chair? >> darrell issa is the chairman. he's done an effective job as chairman and i support him. >> what is issa's explanation
. >> joe johns is here with the latest. congressional black caucus, does that mean that they're suggesting something was racial about this incident? >> a lot more caucus, a lot more politics, a lot less race i think is probably the way you can best put it. the cbc is involved in part because elijah cummings is former chair. but speaking with the current chair, she doesn't see race as having anything to do with it. and people close to cummings says he sees race even as a distraction....
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joe johns is here and you and i have covered it and it's not every day you see a chairman or a rankingarguing like this. >> it isn't and it got ugly. the battle over certain groups like tea partiers are an open wound between republicans and democrats. the top two members of the house committee on oversight and reform reopened the divide in public for all to see in the raw exchange that almost never happens in front of a camera. it was pure junk yard politics. darrell issa kicked it off by forcing lois learner to come before the meeting and invoke her right to refuse to testify even though she had done it weeks before. >>> you seeking the delay some. >> i respectfully exercise the fifth amendment rights and decline to answer the question. >> issa declined to adjourn the meeting. >> i see no point in going further and have no expect she will cooperate with the kmo committee. >> elijah cummings was not having it. >> you cannot run a committee like this. you cannot do this. we are better than that has a country and as a committee. i asked for a few minutes on that. >> what are followed was
joe johns is here and you and i have covered it and it's not every day you see a chairman or a rankingarguing like this. >> it isn't and it got ugly. the battle over certain groups like tea partiers are an open wound between republicans and democrats. the top two members of the house committee on oversight and reform reopened the divide in public for all to see in the raw exchange that almost never happens in front of a camera. it was pure junk yard politics. darrell issa kicked it off by...
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i'm joe johns. here are your latest headlines.disappearance of a malaysia airlines flight carrying 239 people suggests the jet may have turned back before vanishing off the southern coast of vietnam. meanwhile, now we know two people who boarded the flight using stolen passports appear to have bought their tickets together. and other names on the passenger manifest are now raising questions. >>> a judge has set bond for the pregnant mother accused of trying to kill her three children, at $1.2 million. yesterday, ebony wilkerson made her initial court appearance after being charged with three counts of attempted first-degree murder. according to police, wilkerson told her children to go to sleep before driving them into the ocean on tuesday. >>> police have busted what could be one of the largest known counterfeit schemes in the united states. authorities say these two brothers from new york made millions by selling knockoffs of products like chapstick, johnson's baby oil and vass lean up and down the east coast. both brothers are
i'm joe johns. here are your latest headlines.disappearance of a malaysia airlines flight carrying 239 people suggests the jet may have turned back before vanishing off the southern coast of vietnam. meanwhile, now we know two people who boarded the flight using stolen passports appear to have bought their tickets together. and other names on the passenger manifest are now raising questions. >>> a judge has set bond for the pregnant mother accused of trying to kill her three children,...
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so, joe johns, thank you for that. do appreciate your reporting on it.nother big special coming guns, gangs and the problem of what to do about them. all an ongoing battle in chicago. and cnn is taking you inside that battle with a brand new series. we've got a sneak peek and a talk with the chicago police superintendent just ahead. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. he was a matted mess in a small cage. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angie's list. we found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angie's list. join today at angieslist.com an entirely new menu created with your busy schedule in mind. pronto lunch starting at $6.99. handmade italian sandwiches, flatbreads, and our signature soup and salad. starting at $6.99. and all served "pronto!" at olive garden. and it feels like your lifeate revolves around your sy
so, joe johns, thank you for that. do appreciate your reporting on it.nother big special coming guns, gangs and the problem of what to do about them. all an ongoing battle in chicago. and cnn is taking you inside that battle with a brand new series. we've got a sneak peek and a talk with the chicago police superintendent just ahead. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day. he was a matted mess in a small cage. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's...
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earlier this morning, joe johns talked with a body language expert.ls to the fbi. so what is putin's body language saying? >> what they're looking for right now, the team they're using in the pentagon, they're trying to determine most likely how quickly is he going to take action. is he gathering research, is he going to spend a lot of time doing pluses and minuses on invading the ukraine, maybe taking that peninsula, how quickly will he pull the trigger? general body language, we're looking for all of the nonverbals. my specialty is detecting deception, which we have loaded with putin, a lot of deception that we can prove. on the ukraine at a press ilence conference earlier this week. what did you take away from his body language while he was defending his actions and blaming western powers, especially if united states, for causing i think he called it an anarchy and armed coup in ukraine? >> you see with his right hand he did just a second ago a zero. this is how he feels about the united states of america. then he does a chop. that chop with his ha
earlier this morning, joe johns talked with a body language expert.ls to the fbi. so what is putin's body language saying? >> what they're looking for right now, the team they're using in the pentagon, they're trying to determine most likely how quickly is he going to take action. is he gathering research, is he going to spend a lot of time doing pluses and minuses on invading the ukraine, maybe taking that peninsula, how quickly will he pull the trigger? general body language, we're...
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our senior washington correspondent joe johns is here with a closer look at the ships and the planes,olved. this is a massive undertaking. >> it's amazing, wolf. staggers assets are being used in the search for the plane. 43 ships along with 58 or more aircraft. one expert we talked to says it's likely a dozen satellites have been utilized. now as the focus has turned to the remote southern indian ocean, equipment with military intelligence technology is playing a key role. a massive sea search that requires an equally massive amount of resources on land, air and seas. it starts in space. satellite images transferred to the australian geo spatial intelligence organization. the pictures of possible plane debris captured mar
our senior washington correspondent joe johns is here with a closer look at the ships and the planes,olved. this is a massive undertaking. >> it's amazing, wolf. staggers assets are being used in the search for the plane. 43 ships along with 58 or more aircraft. one expert we talked to says it's likely a dozen satellites have been utilized. now as the focus has turned to the remote southern indian ocean, equipment with military intelligence technology is playing a key role. a massive sea...
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goldberg, thanks so much. >> thanks, jeffrey. >> good conversation. >>> coming up next on "morning joe," senator johner, the zen of russell simmons. he is here to explain the surprising secret behind his success. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. [ male announcer ] at his current pace, bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> welcome back to "morning joe." john kerry has just landed in kiev. obviously, the secretary of state getting on the ground and trying do what he can along with the government to have a response. let's -- he is there to show the support for the new government and let's bring in right now from california, former u.s. ambassador to russia, mike mcfaul and white house nbc chief correspondent and host of "the daily rundown, chuck todd.
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but there were also seven democrats who voted against this, including bob casey, mark pryor, joe manchin, john walsh. a lot of those names are familiar because they're democrats facing uphill re-election fights. tell me about the tension between the the white house nominating this person at this moment before the midterm elections. >> it's fascinating. no one really paid much attention to this nomination until the last couple of days. and republicans mounted a very strong rhetorical push against him. democrats have voted against him, a lot found themselves stuck in a difficult spot because he was doing his job and he was representing his client and that is sort of what he's supposed to do. >> that's what lawyers do. >> right. and regardless of what you think of him, he's allowed to have counsel and counsel. this is a bit of democrats sort of getting bit in the butt with what they did with the filibuster rules. up until then, when they had nominees they were uncomfortable with, they could blame republicans, say it was all their fault. but there one they have to own this now because seven democr
but there were also seven democrats who voted against this, including bob casey, mark pryor, joe manchin, john walsh. a lot of those names are familiar because they're democrats facing uphill re-election fights. tell me about the tension between the the white house nominating this person at this moment before the midterm elections. >> it's fascinating. no one really paid much attention to this nomination until the last couple of days. and republicans mounted a very strong rhetorical push...
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john boehner applauding. he doesn't stand up like joe biden. everyone seems to agree. it's a crime that women earn less than men and government must do something. amy holmes is a student of s economics. you must agree that government needs to fix this wage gap.gap. >> indeed, john. i d don't. and as a matter of fact, that 70 cents number is in and of itself misleading. if you look at the number and you control for an apples to apples comparison, harvard economist claudia and othersha found that wage gap shrinks tremendously. >> and what upset me is the president knows this and even his own department of labor says after controlling for occupation, experience, other choices, women earn 95% as muchh as men do. >> correct. so the reason why 70 cents is incorrect, that it's false, is it's comparing all full-timere women to all full-time men,e regardless of occupation, and even the term, full time, is m misleading. to a 35-hourers workweek and as it turns out, men work longer hours than women and so they tend to chalk up aa. higher wage. >> my understanding is that we n men
john boehner applauding. he doesn't stand up like joe biden. everyone seems to agree. it's a crime that women earn less than men and government must do something. amy holmes is a student of s economics. you must agree that government needs to fix this wage gap.gap. >> indeed, john. i d don't. and as a matter of fact, that 70 cents number is in and of itself misleading. if you look at the number and you control for an apples to apples comparison, harvard economist claudia and othersha...
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joe is with john carlson. >> you have had an excellent year, and you're better since the olympic break
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john ridley. he was here on the very first days of "morning joe" before he went on. er and better things as well. on a night of big moments for that was the biggest moment. we are so happy for john ridley getting that statue. "gravity" a big winner in terms of number of statues winning seven oscars including best direct than and cinematography. the best picture wen to "12 years a slave." and winning first oscar was lupita nyongo. . >> every month, every day and every day of my life my hero, i'm not going to be my hero and that is fine with me because that keeps me to keep on chasing. to so any of us, whatever those things are, whatever it is we look up to, whatever we look forward to and whoever we are chasing, to that, i say, amen. to that, i say, all right, all right, all right. just keep living. thank you. >> that is man who knows his roots and going back to "days of confused." 1993, all right, all right, all right. congratulations to him. his co-star jared leto won for actor in a supporting role. jared leto did he win for talking about his mother for most of his s
john ridley. he was here on the very first days of "morning joe" before he went on. er and better things as well. on a night of big moments for that was the biggest moment. we are so happy for john ridley getting that statue. "gravity" a big winner in terms of number of statues winning seven oscars including best direct than and cinematography. the best picture wen to "12 years a slave." and winning first oscar was lupita nyongo. . >> every month, every day...
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. >> now to viewer reaction, john says: >> joe says: >> what do you think about the story? should the school exempt cameron? sweet us at @ajconsiderthis. >> that's not a very good lesson for the rest of the kids to punish that little girl. >> venezuela's oppression turns inward. >> the big business of lories and the hundreds of millions people are losing by not checking their tickets. >> later, teenage rebellion seems like it's been around for centuries, but questions everything you thought you knew about the history of adolescence. >> a fierce adversary of the countries venezuela president is vowing to stay in the legislature after stripped of her seat for speaking out internationally about the country. she said the move shows desperation, but venezuelan national assembly president says she can now be tried for treason. >> it's a fact that she doesn't have parliamentary immunity. she can be detained at any moment now without previous notice. >> the acts raises the steaks add three generals were arrested for plotting a coup and the death toll continues across the country, t
. >> now to viewer reaction, john says: >> joe says: >> what do you think about the story? should the school exempt cameron? sweet us at @ajconsiderthis. >> that's not a very good lesson for the rest of the kids to punish that little girl. >> venezuela's oppression turns inward. >> the big business of lories and the hundreds of millions people are losing by not checking their tickets. >> later, teenage rebellion seems like it's been around for...
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. >> now to viewer reaction, john says: >> joe says: >> what do you think about the story? should the school exempt cameron? sweet us at @ajconsiderthis. >> that's not a very good lesson for the rest of the kids to punish that little girl. >> venezuela's oppression turns inward. >> the big business of lories and the hundreds of millions people are losing by not checking their tickets. >> later, teenage rebellion seems like it's been around for centuries, but questions >> al jazeera america presents a global finacial powerhouse >> the roman catholic church, they have an enormous amount of power >> accusations of corruption... >> there is a portion of the budget that takes care of all the clerical abuse issues. >> now we follow the money and take you inside the vatican's financial empire. >> when it comes to money, this is one of the sloppiest organizations on earth... >> al jazeera america presents... holy money only on al jazeera america so many money stories sound complicated. but don't worry. i'm here to take the fear out of finance. every night on my show i break down th
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similar questions were raised about ronald reagan and john mccain and joe biden so it irtus to the age question. >> and bob dole. >> also, interestingly in the proceed vile of the vice president one of his inner circle raised the question of hillary clinton's health. this is coming from the democratic side of the ledger. >> i disagree. you made a rookie mistake and you get older you will have to learn from experience and not make that mistake. >> i will try to bring a young person's dedication. >> and that may not be you. >> you mentioned hillary clinton's health. we have if reason to believe that she is having any health problems, she obviously had the concussion a year ago. i see a banner headlines, is she sick linking to a story that says whispers persist she will not run, health could be worse than disclosed citing rulers and supermarket inquiries. >> anyone who doesn't like hillary clinton will do whatever they can to make their case. this is a case in point. >> some on the right have been convincing themselves that hillary clinton is there for a run. >> if you don't know anything
similar questions were raised about ronald reagan and john mccain and joe biden so it irtus to the age question. >> and bob dole. >> also, interestingly in the proceed vile of the vice president one of his inner circle raised the question of hillary clinton's health. this is coming from the democratic side of the ledger. >> i disagree. you made a rookie mistake and you get older you will have to learn from experience and not make that mistake. >> i will try to bring a...
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. >> hey, john, it's joe. pleasure to have you. thanks for coming on today.eginning of the year conversation largely centered around the direction of the ten-year yield in the u.s. here and seems as though that conversation now has diminished. is that incorrect? is it something that we should be looking for? are you expecting the yields to get back above 30%? >> i do. i think it's inevitable interest rates are going to be higher a year, two and three from now. look forward. so i'm really convinced that you want to stay away from fixed income and especially the bond market today because we think equities are going to be the best place to be. >> john, jm smucker hasn't faired well, names we know from folgers to jif to pilsbury -- >> it's substantially this year. we think now the -- compelling. it's extraordinarily well-managed by the smucker brothers. they've been big in jellies and jams and we're really convinced that it will be a great long-term play for us. >> john, it's josh brown. so you have bali technologies on your list which i thought looked the most i
. >> hey, john, it's joe. pleasure to have you. thanks for coming on today.eginning of the year conversation largely centered around the direction of the ten-year yield in the u.s. here and seems as though that conversation now has diminished. is that incorrect? is it something that we should be looking for? are you expecting the yields to get back above 30%? >> i do. i think it's inevitable interest rates are going to be higher a year, two and three from now. look forward. so i'm...
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solecki takes off his shirt and stamps out rivera's burning legs as co-workers, joe benedict and stephen boon, arrive to help. >> johntrying to put him out with his shirt, and joe, joe just looking to do something to help out. that's when i handed him the fire extinguisher. >> i quick pulled it out of his hands and pulled the pin and started extinguishing the fire on walter. when i seen that the fire was out on him, i don't know what made me go over to try to put the fire out on the motorcycle, but that's what i tried to do. >> rivera regains consciousness as boon and solecki pull him even further from the wreck. >> i kept trying to get up, like, trying to get up from the street. i broke my right femur bone. it was shattered. so there was no way of me getting up, but i guess i was in shock, so i kept trying, kept trying. they had to literally hold me down. >> minutes later, fire and rescue crews arrive to extinguish the motorcycle and take rivera to the hospital. he spends three months recuperating there from extensive burns and multiple broken bones. >> but it turned out a lot better than i was expecting. you know,
solecki takes off his shirt and stamps out rivera's burning legs as co-workers, joe benedict and stephen boon, arrive to help. >> johntrying to put him out with his shirt, and joe, joe just looking to do something to help out. that's when i handed him the fire extinguisher. >> i quick pulled it out of his hands and pulled the pin and started extinguishing the fire on walter. when i seen that the fire was out on him, i don't know what made me go over to try to put the fire out on the...
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john, your prediction. >> the signing of jackson. not broadway joemsg up 20% on the year. >> our resident sports katter, jonas, what do you think? >> msg gives me a headache. >> enough said. technology has killed yet another job the e-trade baby is being put out to pastier, their going digital. how can they do this? doesn't that want to make you have a baby? >> it makes me want to have this is hysterical, the best ads on tv right now. >> neil's next. >>> what do we want? >> jobs. >> what do we want? >> here we go again, more cash now, more job losses later. be careful what you wish for, then, hi, everyone, i'm neil cavuto, unions getting 23569 food workers out again chanting for a hike in the minimum wage. one tiny problem. a few survey of employers shows those jobs will be taking a big hike, if they get what they wish. to charles payne, what do you make of this? the boss says we have to hike the wage that much, a lot of you have to go? >> first of all, i
john, your prediction. >> the signing of jackson. not broadway joemsg up 20% on the year. >> our resident sports katter, jonas, what do you think? >> msg gives me a headache. >> enough said. technology has killed yet another job the e-trade baby is being put out to pastier, their going digital. how can they do this? doesn't that want to make you have a baby? >> it makes me want to have this is hysterical, the best ads on tv right now. >> neil's next....
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taking more heat from republicans, including this assessment this morning from senator john mccain on "morning joe." >> there's been a fundamental misreading of vladimir putin, his intentions, and the things he will do. there's no reset with vladimir putin. vladimir putin is not going to appreciate the president to be, quote, more flexible after he is re-elected. >> my colleague andrea mitchell is traveling with the secretary of state. she joins us now by phone, and if you will, andrea, walk us through the secretary's agenda and what reaction we heard, if any, to the comments of vladimir putin today. >> well, from the top there, there's been no reaction yet from secretary kerry, who was flying overnight when putin is speaking. he has not yet spoken to us. we're having a news conference with him later, so we will expect to try to get some reaction from putin, as you know, reserved the right to use military force. what we were told on the plane by senior officials flying over here is he has operational control over crimea and that there is an off-ramp for him, should he choose to take it, but there
taking more heat from republicans, including this assessment this morning from senator john mccain on "morning joe." >> there's been a fundamental misreading of vladimir putin, his intentions, and the things he will do. there's no reset with vladimir putin. vladimir putin is not going to appreciate the president to be, quote, more flexible after he is re-elected. >> my colleague andrea mitchell is traveling with the secretary of state. she joins us now by phone, and if you...
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john ehrlichman -- jon erlichman. >> my next guest has one for academy award for visual effects. joe letteri is the director of weta digital. tell us about the effects for the latest hobbit movie. >> smaug, we started working with benedict over dutch -- cum berbatch, and rather than doing a typical voice in the booth everything that you do with animated characters, we put him in a motion capture suit, and we got to see what his physical presence and body performance was. we translated that into the dragon. >> was a motion capture suit? >> we mark kirk an actor, and we try to record the movements. what we're really doing is getting the essence of their performance, and see what happens when we have this very moving performance on the small stage, how does that take advantage o -- how do we change that into a dragon? i was the effect supervisor for avatar as well. i am to create anything that is not real. if you can imagine it, but not do it physically, than it is up to me degree at it. >> you have also made a 25 foot gorilla? >> we did king kong, exactly. that was peter's lifelong dre
john ehrlichman -- jon erlichman. >> my next guest has one for academy award for visual effects. joe letteri is the director of weta digital. tell us about the effects for the latest hobbit movie. >> smaug, we started working with benedict over dutch -- cum berbatch, and rather than doing a typical voice in the booth everything that you do with animated characters, we put him in a motion capture suit, and we got to see what his physical presence and body performance was. we...
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john: applause from both parties, john boehner, applauding, he does not stand up like joe biden.ryone seems to, agree that government must do something, amy holmes, a student of economics, you must agree that government needs to fix the wage gap. >> i don't. and that 77 cent number is misleading, if you control for the apple to apple comparison, harvard economist claudia goldman, have founded that wage gap shrinks. >> what -- upset me is that president knows this he is department of labor said after controlling for occupation, experience, other choices, women are 95% as much as men too. do. >> correct, reason why the 77 is false it compares all full time women to all full time men regardless of occupation, and term full time is misleading that refers to a 35 hour workweek, and men work longer hours than women. and so they get a higher wage. john: my understanding we men attend to work not just longer hours, be more willing to move for a job, be willing to go to unsafe places, i assume you women are smarter. we have less balanced lived, we are willing to give it up. >> we are diff
john: applause from both parties, john boehner, applauding, he does not stand up like joe biden.ryone seems to, agree that government must do something, amy holmes, a student of economics, you must agree that government needs to fix the wage gap. >> i don't. and that 77 cent number is misleading, if you control for the apple to apple comparison, harvard economist claudia goldman, have founded that wage gap shrinks. >> what -- upset me is that president knows this he is department of...
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john. that would open the other team at the top she don't look at the door when joe. this would explain what a phallic symbol was found in the chisholm names there is not enough evidence to conclude that this old jackson was a manic triangle symbol. do. add the sheets on the coach of the sans institute with a medic is being kept on still debating its ocean. many believe it to be a cut shot but the baltic symbol. whatever the conclusion one thing that we can be still. is this mysterious artifact was an important cause to hold to the thousands. and me. do. at noon. it's in. i own with japanese expedition discovered a small but its books in nineteen three at the c box buildings. it took fifty four games to solve the mystery of the box the books. one leave a bit loose about the shutdowns. i cheated for top six eight thousand years of music. i know i will. it is. it's believed to be the worst second largest call for insurgents in afghanistan minister of mines weight loss are on it was money for my hero in another size to be used to rebuild the country after thirty years th
john. that would open the other team at the top she don't look at the door when joe. this would explain what a phallic symbol was found in the chisholm names there is not enough evidence to conclude that this old jackson was a manic triangle symbol. do. add the sheets on the coach of the sans institute with a medic is being kept on still debating its ocean. many believe it to be a cut shot but the baltic symbol. whatever the conclusion one thing that we can be still. is this mysterious artifact...