but i do say that because i looked at, you know, it's funny, in the joe klein review, it's sort of a pinata, you can hit it from any angle and get some reward, but he says goldberg doesn't -- he says of course conservatives and republicans have these cliches, too, and he says, well, goldberg actually does admit this. so what's the point of saying it if i do anytime it. i think it's on page 9 of the book i say that conservatives do this stuff too. the difference is you know where the conservatives are coming from. the conceit that drives me batty is lib liberals don't have an agenda, that they only want to do what works. president obama, the day before he was inaugurated had a rally in baltimore where he says what we need in this country is a new declaration of independence from ideology, bigotry, prejudice and small-mindedness. now, why does ideology belong in there? particularly since he's clearly not referring to his own ideology, only other people's id rollology. and this is the formulation that you get over and over again. conservatives have ideology, liberals don't. and i try to

it is funny, the joe klein interview is sort of a piÑata.he says that goldberg -- of course conservatives and republicans have these clichÉs, too, then he has this early line that says goldberg is not imminent. it is on page nine of the book that i say that conservatives do this i have the idea that liberals are members of the reality community and they don't have a ninja agenda and only wanted what works. president obama, before he was inaugurated, there was a rally in baltimore where he says what we need is a new declaration of independence from ideology, bigotry, bigotry and smallmindedness. now, why does ideology belong in there with bigotry and smallmindedness? clearly he is not referring to his own of ideology. this is the formulation you get over and over again. that conservative people have ideology that liberals don't read it goes back to pragmatism and is actually a trick that was created by napoleon, picked up by karl marx. michael bloomberg does this all the time. we have a new movement now called no labels. >> it is sort of rela

and joe klein, a journalist from "time" magazine. i want to get to you, joe.t talking to people on this. look at these numbers. 235 million in negative ads. less than 1 million of the positive ads paid for by the white house. let them give it a name, obamacare, and trash it. he once told a group of us they would spend $200 million and he knew it. well, they still are and it is unpopul unpopular. why? >> i think the challenge is that democrats haven't had the resources. the fact that it has been unpopular and any one of these given cycles in 2010. you had a lot of democrats defending themselves. who should be jumping with joy at the possibility of a health care bill? >> consumers. on one side, you have folks who have a stake in the law. health insurers have spent a ton of money going after this legislation, pushing their money through the chamber of commerce. on the other side, you have consumers. why do insurance companies hate the bill? i thought it guaranteed a lot more people buying insurance. >> that's been a mystery. what we found out recently is that the

maybe harman will have a good second half. >> coming up time's joe klein and jeffrey sacs are here. th more "morning joe." an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car's totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? thin coffee shops. people who i thave been out of work. you can tell it wears on them. narrator: he's fought to pull us out of economic crisis for three years. and he still is. president obama's plan keeps taxes down for the middle class, invests in education and asks the wealthy to pay their fair share. mitt romney and his billionaire allies can spend milions to distort the president's words. but they're not interested in rebuilding the middle class. he is. i'm barack obama and i ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i knew it'd be tough on our retirement savings, especially in this economy. but with three kids, being home more really helped. man: so we went to fidelity. we talked about where we were and what we could do. we chang

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joining us now is time magazine columnist and author joe klein. this week's cover story, "how to die, what he learned in the last days of my mom and dad." joe, what did you learn and what are you hoping the rest of us learn through your decision to share one of the most acutely painful experiences that anybody will ever have the way you've decided to do it? >> well, the big thing that everybody learns, and we all go through this, so many of my friends are going through it. the big thing that i learned is it ain't easy. it's not easy to make life and death decisions about your own parents. but there are better ways to do it than the way most people go through it. my parents, let me tell you, they were both 91 years old, they were both suffering from dementia. they had been together since the first day of kindergarten in rockaway beach, queens. they had been together for 86 years. and mom really wanted to just end it when it was time to end it. dad just kind of reacted as if old age was a reversible condition, and so he made it kind of tough. and he

joe kleine is in ohio along with nina turner. and later, rush limbaugh tries to tell nuns what to do. that is not going to work out so well for rush. sister csimone will join me. and rush is so lucky he's not here. but lisaling is here and she's done a closeup look at the work american nuns are doing. the top academic performers surprised some people. so did the country that came in 17th place. let's raise the bar and elevate our academic standards. let's do what's best for our students-by investing in our teachers. let's solve this. you know that comes with a private island? really? no. it comes with a hat. see, airline credit cards promise flights for 25,000 miles, but... [ man ] there's never any seats for 25,000 miles. frustrating, isn't it? but that won't happen with the capital one venture card. you can book any airline, anytime. hey, i just said that. after all, isn't traveling hard enough? ow! [ male announcer ] to get the flights you want, sign up for a venture card at capitalone.com. what's in your wallet? uh, it's ok.

plus analysis from "time" magazine's joe klein, dan balz of the "washington post," and our own norah o'donnell and john dickerson. we'll wade into all of it, but don't hold your breath waiting for things to cool down because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and good morning, again, and welcome to "face the nation." texas governor rick perry is in austin with us this morning. governor, thank you for joining us. you said some pretty-- >> good morning, mr. schieffer. >> schieffer: you said tough things about mitt romney during the primaries but now you're a romney man. how do you think he's doing? >> well, we all said some tough things about each other. that's what competition is about and contests, but i think governor romney is very focused on the issues that are important to the vast majority of the people out there, and that's chet. this president has overseen the loss of 1.4 million jobs. we're now into the greatest deficit position this country has ever been in because of the unc

"time" magazine's joe klein hit the road to find out what people think.ns me now from new york. hey, joe. >> hey, andrea. >> you did a little bit of the bus trip with mitt romney, you got to the heartland, and particularly in the rust belt states, tell me what people are saying. >> this is the third year in a row that i've done one of these road trips, and it was all battleground states this time from north carolina through virginia, pennsylvania, ohio and michigan. when i did this three years ago, or two years ago, people were just scared to death, the bottom was falling out of the country. then last year, they were concerned and frustrated and looking for congress to act. this year, they are just angry as hell. they are really ticked off, especially at the congress, for not getting anything done. they're disappointed in the president for not being a stronger leader to get things done and they don't like mitt romney very much at all. he's the lesser of two evils for those who are going to vote for him. in 21 days, i couldn't find one flat out enthusiasti

we'll leave you with led zep lin, "good times, bad times" off of joe klein's playlist. you're watching "starting point" and we are back in just a moment. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! ♪ squirrel nut zippers is the name of the band. i think it's odd. >> it is. >> i'm happy to see it. that's the "memphis exorcism." >> it's the name and the band, a great band. >> squirrel nut zippers, okay, i like it. >> a little bit of jazz, picks me up in the morning. >> i love to start the morning with jazz. >> that's margaret's suggestion off her playlist, margaret, the author of "american individualism." we have to talk about that book one of these days. >> i would love to. >> we talk about it but we never talk about it. will cain is a columnist with theblaze.com and ryan lizza, washington correspondent for "the new yorker." our get real, if you

. >> let me ask you really quickly about joe klein's road trip.ing story. the question is asked all the time, why do working class americans vote against their self-interest. joe klein talks in large part about churches and going to middle american churches, and so many middle american churches that reach in, week in and week out to the working poor in america. >> one of the things that joe says is it's not -- government doesn't touch people's lives so much every day, but often faith-based institutions do. churches, synagogues, all of that who are actually reaching out and helping people. and this is the group that so many working class americans, americans in the south and the midwest recognize and identify with. and he actually says that's a great thing, and that's a wonderful thing for america, but government actually has to become more involved too. >> that's something we noticed during hurricane katrina. we went over there and drove over, and it took the government about ten days to two weeks to be there. and all of these guys that get lampoo

. >> thank you, joe klein. always the pro.se come back. >>> up next, you may have to come back after what happens thursday. up next, how barry obama, that was his nickname, became the man who would be president. that was his nickname. he went to barack, the more official name. the author has written a brilliant new book about the coming of age of this young man into the president of the united states. we're finally getting an honest look at his roots. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. oh, yeah? giving you more. now that's progressive. call or click today. >> he's been a figure in washington for more than four decades. tomorrow, charles wrangle of new york city faces a tough primary challenge perhaps. he was convicted in 2010 of all but one of 13 ethics violations, but his lead challenger is aggressively pursuing the hispanic vote in harlem. we'll be right back. i'm betting on charlie. >>> i stand here today grateful for the diversity of my heritage, aware that my parents' >>> i stand here today grateful for the d

. >> "time" political columnist joe klein accused romney of reagan myth making, writing, "reagan didovement conservative. he cut taxes then raised them three times, including the 1982 bill that hit businesses and was by percentage and constant dollars, the largest tax increase in american history. he failed to cut the size of government, but then he didn't try very hard. he was a conservative, to be sure, but more in rhetoric than reality." joining me now, bruce bartlett, who served as a senior policy analyst in the reagan white house and a deputy assistant secretary of the treasury during george h.w. bush's administration. he is now columnist for the fiscal times, a contributor for "the new york times," and author of "the benefit and the burden: tax reform, why we need it and what it will take." also joining us, sam stein, political editor and white house correspondent for "huffington post." bruce, when i listen to tim pawlenty comparing romney to reagan, i think in a way he's on to something. he's saying that in massachusetts, romney governed in a kind of reasonable bipartisan way,

. >> thank you, joe klein. always the pro.p next, you may have to come back after what happens thursday. up next, how barry obama, that was his nickname, became the man who would be president. that was his nickname. he went to barack, the more official name. the author has written a brilliant new book about the coming of age of this young man into the president of the united states. we're finally getting an honest look at his roots. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. if paula ebert had her way, she would help her child. go! goooo! [ male announcer ] with everything. but instead she gives him capri sun super-v. with one combined serving of fruits and vegetables. new capri sun super-v. but not for long! your very own four course seafood feast for just $14.99. start your feast with a soup, like our hearty new england clam chowder. next, enjoy a salad with unlimited cheddar bay biscuits. then get your choice of one of 7 entrees. like new coconut and pineapple shrimp shrimp and scallops alfredo or new honey bbq shrimp.

joe klein from "time" magazine said he failed profoundly to explain what he's doing. jonathon alder said it's one of the last persuasive speeches he has seen him give. has he lost his mojo? >> when people look at mitt romney, he looks like a guy when you type in president in a stock photo it looks like romney. when you look at his record. when he was governor of massachusetts they were 47 of 50 in job growth. >> it depend on which record you are looking at. >> we'll see the mojo in the debates. this is one speech. >> the fact that the obama operation and the president have failed to realize the burden of proof to get reelected is on them. it's not about demonizing mitt romney. he has a record that unfortunately for our country has failed to grow our economy in any meaningful way. you are talking about 4.5 million jobs in 27 months. that will include the people who have stopped looking for jobs at all. even if you accept your number, you are talking about not enough jobs per month -- megyn: we have heard the president repeatedly including yesterday try to tie mitt romn

there is clear disappointment in a lot of reporters you mentioned, dana milbank, jonathan alter and joe kleinwaa wave of the president, he is not as good as he was in '08. he was not transformational figure like like we hope he was. we have to give him advice how to win. he obviously needs our help. people like frank rich saying that obama should blast romney with like a 1964 daisy ad. see david gregory look, remind people how terrible it was under bush. see chris matthews every show is pretty much an invitation please watch so i can tell you how to win your election that is the new plan. jon: on, over the weekend, alan, matthews said to his panel something like, you know, can he still win this thing? >> i'm confused because for so long all we did was criticize chris matthews and criticize people like frank rich who are liberal commentators for being too pro-obama and, wait a minute, are we now saying we're criticizing them because they're not pro-obama or enough or not liberal enough? is that what the problem is? i'm very confused. jon: the point is they seem to offer obama campaign advice a

. >> this comes from joe klein of "time" magazine. from joseph conrad, the author. there's a line that says in the destructive element immerse, which means take some risks, immerse yourself in the possibility of losing because that's the only way you're really going to win in life and really experience life. in the destructive element immerse. >> a very smart, well read way of saying, take risks, don't be afraid to take risks. >> when you feel that discomfort in your stomach, you need to chose your eyes and dive in. if you're a failure, will stop you from achieving anything in life. >> there are people who fail and don't learn from the failure. >> destruction in the road ahead of you, swerve. >> you can always see the destruction though, right? maybe embracing it is a good idea. >> that book was written in 1900, he didn't literally get the advice from joseph conrad. >> let's be clear. >> but he got it from the book. >> thank you. good advice. thank you, christine. i just remembered, it's friday. >> stocks could go up, we have futures

"time" magazine columnist joe klein said the president had overall, quote, failed profoundly in his abilityo explain what he has done. look at this from bloomberg columnist jonathan alter. he had this to say about the speech. i thought this was one of the least successful speeches i've seen barack obama give in last several years. strong criticism from prominent names on the democratic side. we're joined by juan williams. fox news political analyst. good morning juan. >> good morning. martha: why are they coming out so strongly and what did you think of the speech? >> a little bit like failure is usually an orphan. in this case i think people on the left all think they know better how to run this campaign than the obama people and they're particularly upset that the president doesn't go on the attack against mitt romney and secondly, with regard to yesterday's speech, that he didn't properly defend his record. that he didn't go into detailed explanations what he has done to keep the economy on track and growing, rather than to act in the way that he did which is to create a framing speech t

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joining me now also from the courthouse is tom klein, an attorney representing victim 5 and a named tom, i learned from joe it's the attorneys and it's all about money. >> it's cops, prosecutors, media, and lawyers. in some order. >> in other words, it's a grand conspiracy of o.j.-like proportions. that's essentially what amendola is asking this jury to believe. >> amendola asked the jury to believe exactly that, michael. that it is a conspiracy that started with one victim. the prosecution they then coerced and convinced seven other individuals -- actually more than that -- that they should also testify they made up these gruesome, horrible acts. they all came in and testified under oath to that. then they hired lawyers. some of them that the lawyers put words in their mouth. and even that in one instance because one of the members of the print media had suggested to the mom, that she was part of the conspiracy. the prosecutor countered by simply saying this kind of conspiracy like all conspiracies falls of its own weight. >> and the prosecutor also said joe mcgettigan said if this is all it's about -- an

overshadowed by the president but yesterday vice president joe biden was playing second fiddle to his daughter. ashley biden marrieded dr. howard klein in a private ceremony in delaware. here's today's weather. it will be warm around most of the country with a long line of storms creeping over the plains. the week ahead should be cooler and rainier with the sunny southwest being the glaring exception in that forecast. coming up, elizabeth ii's first 60 years. and later, by,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >> it's an historic site that's fit for a queen. some are calling the pageant the biggest gathering along the banks of the river thames in 350 years. queen elizabeth is the pageant's honoree and the subject of this morning's cover story reported by mark phillips. >> reporter: it's a royal story. cue the trumpets. (trumpets blaring ). it's hard not to start a story about queen elizabeth without a fanfare. let's face it. after 60 years of the same monarch and the same ceremonies, it does all start to look a bit familiar. yet familiarity is a large part of what queens are about especially ones who have been around this long. >> prime ministers may c

joe biden is now father of the bride. he walked his daughter ashley down the aisle in will mington, delaware. it is the same church where she was baptized as a baby. she married dr. howard kleing was a joint jewish-catholic ceremony. a private reception followed at the biden's home in baltimore. >> can you imagine the toast he gave? >> probably pretty good. >> 7:07. 63 degrees on tv hill. trendy new make-up looks for the summer. >> hi. i'm offensive coordinator for the baltimore ravens, cam cameron. i'm also a melanoma survivor. >> cam cameron is hoping to prevent melanoma from happening to you. more on his mission to raise awareness next in "medical alert." >> but first ava is up next with your insta-weather plus forecast. >> yesterday the national weather service confirmed four tornadoes that impacted maryland. one began in virginia and the countryside and moved over to montgomery county. that was an ef-0. two ef-0 tornadoes report in to damascus. we did have that damage from an ef-1 near pleasant hills near the falston area. that tornado did cause two injuries and widespread damage to an industrial area including some building, as well. so unfortunately we had that severe