one is independent joe lieberman of connecticut.he says he'll join blocking consideration of the bill. >>> people along the gulf coast have their work cut out for them. a tropical storm, and a very wet one, bearing down. where and how rainy will it be? bonnie schneider joins us with the latest on the storm. they think may believe mobile bay. >> that will be a spot we're watching for possibly land fall. that means when the scepter of the storm or eye of the storm passes over land. tropical storm forced winds extend pretty far out into the storm. so that is why we have tropical storm wind warnings in effect for a good portion of the gulf coast. you can see clouds work their way in the region. winds are at 70. gusts are higher than that. it curves and turns suddenly to the east, to the right, by the time the storm makes landfall tomorrow. will it do the turn before landfall. the cone stretches out into the f early on tuesday morning. these tropical systems are very, very tricky. we'll be watching closely to see the track. ida is produc

it was a bill by liberals for liberals and people like joe lieberman won't get near the house bill.r a trillion dollars in new spending has the public option so the house bill is a nonstarter in the senate. >> video responses to last night's passage of the health care bill in the house. some fear it could have devastating consequences others say it's about time they catch up with other countries that offer universal health care. >> i'm here in panama and i tell you that my father is going to be having surgery on monday. panama, a third world country, has more resources for every single citizen whether employed or not. they're guaranteed health care. >> give a man a fish, you will feed him for a day. if you teach a man to fish, you will feed him for a lifetime. i think the government is handing out a lot of fish here. this bill cost more than obama wanted it to. this will add to the deficit like obama said it wouldn't. you know, i think the consequences that come from this bill will be devastating to the meddle class of the united states and make everyone poorer for it because sooner

who will be our joe lieberman? who were shut down the senate for the american people? single payer forces all over the country are quickly moving against the democratic legislation. earlier this month, a coalition of labor unions and other single payer activists adopted a resolution at a national standard tree -- a strategy conference in st. louis calling on congress to defeat the democratic legislation. mikuak rdr. marcia angell earlis month called on congress to do nothing instead of passing the democratic bill. it simply throws more money into a dysfunctional and unsustainable system, with only a few improvements at the edges, and it augments the central role of the investor-owned insurance industry. the danger is that as costs continue to rise and coverage becomes less comprehensive, people will conclude that we tried health reform and it did not work. but the real problem will be that we really did not try it. i would rather see us do nothing now, and have a better chance of trying again later and then doing it right. last greek, robert reich clinton's former secr

hood shootings, joe lieberman. >>> president obama is meeting with leaders of apec. before he left japan he said the u.s. needs to work more closely with asia because it could create jobs. he also says there are other tough things to deal with. >> this is a place where a nuclear arms race threatens the security of a wider world and where extremists planned attacks on both of our continents. there can be no solution to our climate challenge wouz the rising powers and developing nations of the asia pacific. to meet these common challenges, the united states looks to strengthen old alliances and build new partnerships with the nations of this region. >> while in singapore, he plans to meet with the russian president as well. >>> there is strong reaction to bringing a 9/11 trial to new york city. there was a decision to be tried in civilian court. the suspects include cleed shake moham -- khalid sheikh mohammed. members are sharply divided over the prospect of a civilian trial. >> to bring it back here it is tasteless, insensitive and those scars which have never been he

joe lieberman says he will start an investigation. >> in the u.s. this is not a matter of constitutional freedom of speech. if he was saying to people that he had become an islamist extremist, he should have been gone. >> memorial service is planned for tomorrow and the president and mrs. obama are expected to attend. >>> the city's mass transit strike is over. they agreed to a new contract. workers walked off the job last tuesday over a dispute about pension benefits. >>> a recent e. coli outbreak may have killed two people and made dozens sick in 11 states. well now, a congressman wants to government to make sure none of that beef got into school lunches. remember the big peanut butter recall in january? in a report, government inspectors say the schools were never told about ilt. >>> the morehouse college marching band is back in step after a bus crash. nice. some band members even showed up on crutches for a special performance on saturday. just a week ago, dozens of them were injured when one of their buses crashed on the way to a football game

senator joe lieberman says he will start an investigation. >> in the u.s. army, this is not a matter of constitutional freedom of speech. if hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an islamic extremist, the u.s. has zero tolerance. he should have been gone. >> we want to take time today to remember the people killed at ft. hood, 12 soldiers and one civilian. the civilian was michael cahill. >> he worked as a physician's assistant and before that served in the national guard and army reserves. cahill's children says he was inkred i incredibly smart and loving. one of them choked up when she was asked what she would miss about him. >> i mean, what would you miss about your dad? that. i miss that. that's the thing. there's a lot of people out there that have lost their dads. what would you miss? i miss that. >> just three weeks ago, cahill had a heart attack. he was back to work a week after that, robin. >> the youngest victim was 19-year-old aaron nemelka. his family spoke out. >> he was the youngest of four children. his family says he g

who will be our joe lieberman? who will shut down the senate for the american people? once again, the people are ahead of the politicians. as the date reaches the end game, single payer forces all over the country are quickly moving against the democratic legislation. earlier this month, health care now, a coalition of labor unions and other single payer activists, adopted a resolution at its national strategy conference in st. louis, calling on congress to defeat the democratic legislation. dr. marcia angell early this month called on congress to do nothing instead of passing the democratic bill. as the house bill better than nothing she asked? i don't think so, she answered. it simply throws more money into a dysfunctional and unsustainable system with only a few improvements at the edges, and it augments the central role of the investor-owned insurance industry. the danger is that as costs continue to rise and coverage becomes less comprehensive, people will conclude we've tried health reform and it didn't work. but the real problem will be that we've really didn't

who will be our joe lieberman? who will shut down the senate for the american people? once again, the people are ahead of the politicians. as the date reaches the end game, single payer forces all over the country are quickly moving against the democratic legislation. earlier this month, health care now, a coalition of labor unions and other single payer activists, adopted a resolution at its national strategy conference in st. louis, calling on congress to defeat the democratic legislation. dr. marcia angell early this month called on congress to do nothing instead of passing the democratic bill. as the house bill better than nothing she asked? i don't think so, she answered. it simply throws more money into a dysfunctional and unsustainable system with only a few improvements at the edges, and it augments the central role of the investor-owned insurance industry. the danger is that as costs continue to rise and coverage becomes less comprehensive, people will conclude we've tried health reform and it didn't work. but the real problem will be that we've really didn't

then a look at the november 5 fort hood shooting with remarks from senators joe lieberman and levin. >> and then the court system that the alleged shooter will go through. >> on tomorrow's "washington journal," we will talk about the health care bill with jillian vande -- bandes and patricia murray. we will also discuss the president's health care bill. and we have someone from the woodrow wilson center on u.s.-iranian center. >> saturday, the senate returns to session at 9:45 a.m. eastern to resume debate in alternating one-hour blocks until 6:00 p.m. then at 8:00 p.m. eastern they will again a procedural vote. 60 votes are required to move forward with the health care bill. watch live coverage on c-span-2. >> in 1989, judy shelton wrote about the coming soviet crash. in 1994, the international monetary system. now, she is talking about the u.s. economy. >> this is unprecedented spending, unending deficits and what i consider an unconscionable accumulation of debt. >> judy shelton, sunday night on c-span's "q & a." >> now, a senate confirmation hearing for two treasury department no

. >>> senator joe lieberman says he'll do anything he can to stop a health care bill that includes aublic option. yesterday he argued that that kind of legislation will be worse than not getting a health care bill at all. a democratic proposal with a public option is expected on the senate floor soon. democrats need lieberman's support to avoid a republican filibuster. he is an independent. >> it's fascinating and, frankly, troubling it has suddenly become a litmus test. if you're not for government health insurance company you're somehow not a good democrat. if you look at the election last year, the presidential election, the public option was never discussed. this was all about how do we control the increasing costs of health insurance and how do we make health insurance available to people who can't afford it now. those are our goals. >> but president obama's senior adviser says the public option would achieve those goals, plus, cut costs and expand coverage because it would bring competition to private insurers. >>> new this morning, police arrest aid man accuseded of gunning do

who will be our joe lieberman? who will shut down the senate for the american people? once again, the people are ahead of the politicians. as the date reaches the end game, single payer forces all over the country are quickly moving against the democratic legislation. earlier this month, health care now, a coalition of labor unions and other single payer activists, adopted a resolution at its national strategy conference in st. louis, calling on congress to defeat the democratic legislation. dr. marcia angell early this month called on congress to do nothing instead of passing the democratic bill. as the house bill better than nothing she asked? i don't think so, she answered. it simply throws more money into a dysfunctional and unsustainable system with only a few improvements at the edges, and it augments the central role of the investor-owned insurance industry. the danger is that as costs continue to rise and coverage becomes less comprehensive, people will conclude we've tried health reform and it didn't work. but the real problem will be that we've really didn't

joe lieberman over 1 million.s more to do with the political contributions then a more conservative ideological idf? dea? guest: none of them seem to have trouble with medicare. this is a single payer system. if you are seeing ben nelson fight for things like ending -- making sure that anti-tax exemption is not ended in this bill -- i wonder how much of that is because people in his state are demanding that and how much is related to his concerns to coming through for his donors? they all claim they're doing this out of a sense of brunn's -- responsibility. their arguments do not really wash. host: tom on the democrats' line. now you're on. go ahead. caller: good morning. i describe myself as an e-jerk liberal -- as a knee-jerk liberal. i still find myself unable to read a lot of the republican blogs and so forth. i read huffington and talking points. host: tom, are you still there? i think we lost him unfortunately. we will move on to the independent line. caller: happy thanksgiving. i have a couple of different

people who paid to joe lieberman are writing this about main. >> -- people who hate joe lieberman are writing this about me. >> the candidate in each party who was miss post partisan and less divisive -- who was most post-partisan and less divisive. they wanted to get away from some of the extreme fights we have been having in the past two decades to people who are more willing to work across aisles. indeed, that was the theme of the campaign, yet we have not gotten any closer to being post- prison. is anyone here you stood writing doodads that can say [unintelligible] how do you make an ad campaign based around that? is that impossible? >> you saw that happen in the komen race. coleman went three weeks had and said, i am going to run a positive campaign progressed but any loss. >> exactly. -- a positive campaign. >> but then he lost. >> exactly. >> i do not think you can impose your will on voters. think the voters are out there. the allegis as we go through is to try to discover where the voters are, -- the exercise that we go through to try discoveretr where the voters are, what th

the charge for congressional investigations into the fort hood shootings, independent senator joe lieberman. >>> as the fighting in afghanistan increases, it's hurting morale among u.s. troops there. the u.s. army released a new report comparing morale in afghanistan and in iraq. in iraq, morale is up and fighting has tapered off there. but in afghanistan, morale is dropping as the summit has intensified its push against the taliban. and the surveys also show that the army's overall suicide rate has jumped. and the army said it's getting more mental health workers to work in afghanistan. >>> president obama is now in singapore. the second stop on his asia tour. he's meeting with leaders of apec, the asia pacific economic cooperation forum. before he left japan, the president said the u.s. needs to work more closely with asia, because it could create jobs back home. he also said there are other tough things to deal with. >> this is a place where the risks of a nuclear arms race threatens the security of the wider world. and where extremists who defile a great religion plan attacks on both ou

afterwards, joe lieberman spoke with reporters. >> senator levin, the chairman of the armed services, will come out. i will say this. it is an expression of gratitude to the administration. this is the third classified briefing i have been in this week. one on tuesday, one this morning, and now this one at the armed services committee. this one was with the personnel of the department of defense, and the earlier meetings included representatives from the department of justice. there is an attempt to cooperate with the relevant committees of congress that are investigating what i consider to be the terrorist attack that resulted in the deaths of 12 soldiers and one civilian at fort hood. there's not much more that i can say at this point. part of this was for us to understand what the regulations of the military are regarded extremist behavior by members of the military and the obligation of fellow soldiers to repeat such behavior, whether expressions of opinion or obviously in the extreme memberships in organizations. we're trying to build an understanding of what the rules of the mi

they have got a pic i know joe lieberman, i know they're replacing kennedy but the republicans haven'tsaid they are going to filibuster. and there's at least one democrat seagrave take telling how we telling harry reid. everybody is worse than the other one. but i want my congressmen were to represent his or her constituents, not the leader of the party, no matter which party it is. first, second, third, fourth party. i want representation of my congressmen was elected by less than one percentage point, throughout probably the worst congressmen. a big step forward, but when it comes to the tight votes, when it comes to the war slashed boat this past june and his constituents want one thing, and the party leaders and the white house, the secretary and the generals want something else. and which way do you think he goes? most of the corruption of the party, and is related to money. so you clean up the money, you clean that up to. you don't necessarily have to get real parties, but these are people threatening challenges, threatening chairmanships, threatening votes, threatening aramark,

several months since this has been debated and a handful of senators, ben nelson from nebraska and joe lieberman from connecticut and a few others have issues with this and there needs to be changes before that bill is going to be able to go forward. >> are any compromise on -- compromises on those issues emerging? >> yeah, i think that there's a few ways that this could go. you know, on one end is taking out the public plan entirely and that doesn't seem likely because liberal senators would have an issue with that and you might have the same problem on the left that they have in the center right now and a more likely idea is finding a way to scale back what's already in the bill and right now we have an opt out provision where states can choose to not be part of the public plan if they want to. and we might go to a trigger proposal, which some senators have been pushing for to allow states to have the public plan if the a set of economic indicas triggered it. and that's one way. and the other idea is an opt in public plan instead of opt out, allowing states to choose to participate in the publ

. >>> senator joe lieberman says he'll do anything he can to stop a health care bill that includes whats called a public option. yesterday he argued that kind of legislation would be worse than not getting a health care bill at all. democratic proposal with the public option expected on the senate floor soon. democrats need lieberman's support here to avoid a republican filibuster. remember he is an independent. >> it's fascinating and, frankly troubling, that it has suddenly become a litmus test. if you're not for government health insurance company, you're suddenly not a good democrat. if you look at the election last year, the presidential election, the public option was never discussed. this was all about how do we control the increasing costs of health insurance and how do we make health insurance available to people who can't afford it now. those are our goals. >> but president obama's senior adviser says the public option would achieve those goals, plus cut costs and expand coverage, but it would bring competition to private insurers. >>> and your tax dollars could be paying to f

senator joe lieberman says he'll start an investigation into this. >> in the u.s.y this is not a matter of constitutional freedom of speech. if hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an islamist extremist, the u.s. army has to have zero tolerance. he should have been gone. >> we also want to take some time to remember people who were killed at ft. hood. one of those was 62-year-old michael cahill. he was the only civilian victim in this. he had worked there for six years as a physician's assistant. and before that he was a rural doctor and served in the national guard and army reserves. cahill's children say they do not want people to discriminate against muslims because of the alleged shooter's background. >> this is just a man, an american man who had issues and problems and did a horrible, unspeakable act. but being so angry at one group of people because of this, that's not going to bring my dad back. >> cahill was at ft. hood last thursday to give checkups to soldiers like specialist kham xiong, the 23-year-old from st. paul, minnesota wa

and there are people who hate joe lieberman are writing stuff about me. >> forgive me for saying this. i said i assume the nominees would be obama and mccain. >> you did, really? >> yeah. >> you're smart. >> because they were both the candidate in each party who's most parne and less divisive. i think the public was hungering to get away from some of the extreme fights we've been having for the past two decades to people who are more willing to walk across aisles and indeed that was the theme of the campaign yet, we haven't goaten closer to being partisan. i how could you make that case? i don't want to be as poisonous this is. how do you make an eath based upon that. you'd have to ano, just do attack ads. >> coleman went out and said i'm going to run out an only positive campaign. >> but he lost, sort of. barely. would you think that you can't run a post partisan campaign and win? >> i don't think you can unilaterally disarm. >> i don't think you can impose your will on voters. i think the whole experience that we go through is to try to cover where the voters are. what they're think

there will be changes to the bill that will make a difference for joe lieberman or bill nelson. it will be different at the beginning of the process. guest: there are details to be hammered out of the public option is there. at the same time, obama is largely getting what he wants. he suggested some of the main provisions in this bill months ago. guest: my only disagreement is that people on the capitol hill is people do not know what obama wants. he has put very little leadership on this. senator conyers has been a member of the black caucus and the says there is no leadership from the white house on the stimulus, afghanistan, health care. guest: they are talking about obamas in decision. host: we start with that and continue on other topics. you can ask our guests questions -- host: my initial question is when we get it is due 2010, there will be elections and it will get tougher for these people to make boats as we go on. even if we go anywhere, what has it to do with the elections? guest: it has everything to do with the elections. the rnc are trying to muster their guns and

just a reminder, it would not only be sanders -- he is an independent, like joe lieberman, who already said that he would filibuster. it would not be extraordinary for bernie sanders to take that position. guest: an excellent point. something that the senate democrats have not really wanted to talk about publicly very much, essentially the nuclear option for the senate. something that is used rarely, although it has been done, reconciliation, the maneuver was used to push through the bush tax cuts in 2001, as well as a few other measures, essentially eliminating the filibuster. it would mean that there would only be a majority. 61 senators voting in favor of pushing it through. a couple of types of legislation are immune from filibuster, like budget bills. there are technical problems with trying to push through a health care bill for budget reasons. there are a lot of technicalities involved. they may have to divide the legislation into several parts, and it is not clear that the public option would make it through. for technical reasons it would be very difficult for democrats to do

their remarks echoed previous comments from other senators, including ben nelson and joe lieberman.irst, the wood -- we -- the senator from louisiana yesterday. >> my vote to move forward on this important debate should be in no way construed by the supporters of the current framework as an indication of how i might vote as this debate comes to an end. it is a vote to move forward to continue the good and essential , and important, and comparative work that is under way. after a thorough review of this bill over the last 2.5 days, which included many lengthy discussions, i have decided that there are enough significant reforms and safeguards in this bill to move forward, but much more work needs to be done. host: in this column, "staffers were calling it the louisiana purchase. it was an awkward moment, not least of which the figure is three times the original louisiana purchase price, fairly representative as this -- of this senate debate that is in southern gothic style. it was gripping, bringing out rank partisanship and self absorption and all the other anthologies of modern pol

a handful of senators, nebraska, joe lieberman from connecticut, and a few others all have issues withthis. there are going to need to be changes, according to their current ultimatums, will for the bill is going to be able to go forward. >> are any compromises on those issues emerging? >> yeah, i think there are a few ways that this could go. on one end it is taking out the public plan entirely, which does seem likely because liberal senators really would have an issue with that. you might run into the same problem on the left. a more likely idea is finding a way to scale back what is in the bill already. right now we have an opt out provision where states can choose not to participate in the public plan. might be that we head toward a proposals which is something that one of the republicans has been pushing for that would allow states to have the public plan if they set up economic indicators like insurance premiums not going down fast enough because of the of the reforms. that is one way that this could be done. the other idea is an opt-in public plan instead of an opt-out allowing

. >> next, a briefing on the fort hood shooting investigation with remarks from senator joe lieberman and senator carl levin. this is 15 minutes. >> senator 11 will come out. i will just say this. -- senator levin will come out. i will just say this. this is the third classified briefing i have been in this week. one on tuesday, one this morning and now this one on the armed services committee. this one was with personnel of the department of defense and the earlier meetings included representatives from the department of justice. there is not much more that i can say at this point. the part of this was for us to understand what the regulations of the military are regarding extremist behavior by members of the military and the obligation of fellow soldiers to repeat such behavior is whether it is expressions of opinion or in the extreme, membership in an organization. we are trying to build an understanding of what the rules of the military are regarding their relationship of members in the military to extremist beliefs and extremist organizations as the tired the general tkeene says

a handful of senators, ben nelson from nebraska, joe lieberman from connecticut, and others all had issues with this. there will need to be changes before the bill can go forward. >> any compromises on issues emerging? >> i think there are a few ways this could go. one hand is taking up the public plan entirely. this does not seem likely because liberal senators would have an issue with this and you may run into this same problem that centers have right now. another way is to find out how to scale back what's in there already. we have an opt out provision or states can choose not to participate if they want to. it might be that we had toward a trigger proposal which is something one of the -- which is something columbia snow has been pushing for that will allow the states to have a public plan if they were triggered ed if premiums the dog go fast enough. that is one way it could be done. the other way is an opt in plan and instead of an opt out plan to allow states to choose if they want to and used to exempt themselves. >> you mentioned senator snowe from maine. are there any others you m