john: marcus, privilege. john brown. lemonis: john, nice to meet you. john: nice to meet you, sir. becky: thank you for coming. lemonis: the smell when you walk in here is awesome. john: it is. that's what everybody says. lemonis: and so, is this whole warehouse -- is all the manufacturing? john: it is. everything is in this 3,500 square feet. lemonis: well, why don't we take a look around? john: please. please. this is our storefront. we have an extremely loyal customer base. people are coming in buying 7, 8, 9, 12 bags of coffee. there's a lot of locals that live maybe 20 miles from here. they don't want to drive the downtown, so we do ship. becky: we're in whole foods and earth fare and fresh market, as well, so they can just pick it up at the grocery store. -lemonis: oh, you are? -john: yes. lemonis: that's nice. who got that account? -becky: the previous owner. -john: previous owner. lemonis: and what will the entire business do? john: we did $840,000 last year. lemonis: how much profit? john: i want to say, last year, it was $40,000 at the most. okay. this is our production a

john: sound logical. fewer people, more crashes. >> with the new technology, we don't need as many people as we used to. these driverless cars, for example. they communicate by text instead of voice commands. they think it's funny that we communicate with voice command. john: to show how cozy the politics are. congressman bill shoeser has pro poised a partial privatization. >> the airlines for america, vice president of global affairs, an got $118,000 in campaign contributions for unions. and there is a cozy relationship between them. john: to join this argument please follow me on twitter. use the hashtag stossel like my facebook page so you can post on my wall. next, better private alternatives to government mass transit. a better way to go into space. launching an successfully landing its falcon nine rocket. it's the first time it's ever been done. even better money. are allergies holding you back? break through your allergies. try new flonase sensimist allergy relief instead of allergy pills. it's mor

john: yes.e spent -- the entire team at "face the nation.," has been preparing this. carry the questions around in your head, and you ask smaller versions to people who are not the president, then you get him. we have been collecting them. we want to get at the core issues. the question was which specific topic would get you there? with this president, perhaps like no one i've ever interviewed, you never know where it's going to go or what claim he's going to make. to plan for eventualities that span a wide swath. charlie: and she seemed to be contradictory within the answer sometimes. the answer it doesn't even seem to be in the realm of anything you were expecting. it is such a challenge. you have to and -- listen to make sure you are getting it right. you have to build on it, because sometimes it is fragmentary. charlie: and most of the time he speaks in generalities rather than specifics. john: that's one of the things we trying to do. not played quiz game, but how, by the likes of his own a

john: let's break up with government. >> we are done. john: that is our show tonight.ohn: what was that odd film clip i just aired? it is a new series that actually is about breaking up with government designed to make the problems caused by government more accessible to people, but it is an overbearing boyfriend. the series is called love go and has gotten nearly 2 million views. >> i know that we just met. john: we will debate that premise. i shouldn't do a show on this too many young people seem to love government. people like austin peterson who runs the website libertarian republic .com. you have the same name is a star on the film. john: you are a long time libertarian. you have now watch this. >> when you see him getting all of the sons of thousands of young people you know that something like this is being shared. >> this facebook post that says it is in name, that is what we need. maybe the libertarians need our own reality show. john: someone did supply, at no time has the majority been interested in raw knowledge. this we will do more than any lecture. >> th

john: about what? climate changes, but anything we're going to do about it is going to make a difference? >> absolutely. john: that's not settled. >> absolutely. i mean co2 emissions are a huge variable in determining the earth's climate. and they're up 40% since the revolution. john: they're up, but it's not settled that that's going to cause a big problem. >> the science is pretty clear that unless we do something about that concentration of greenhouse gas emissions, we're going to have problems of species extinction, of issues with drought, ocean acidification, reasonable people have a debate about what policy prescriptionstor a clean future and whether clean innovative technologies are in the structure. it is frustrating we continue to debate about climate change, that doesn't excuse irresponsible comments. we need all people to have a civil discourse. john: you agree sometimes the left gets mob like. >> all sides do. the left have fringes that throw stones and toss bombs, that is inappropriate in

>> john: golfing. >> tom: all day? >> john: no. just probably, i don't know, till the kids get out of school. i haven't seen them in a while. >> tom: you have no softball left? >> john: no, we're done. >> tom: 3-2 to stassi. and stassi is down on strikes, for out number one. what about summer softball, no summer softball? >> john: no. down here? >> tom: a little too hot? >> john: a little warm. i mean they can play it. >> tom: you're just not going to coach it. >> john: no. >> tom: here's cesar, who is 1 for 3. and it's 0-1. boy, this guy's got a live arm. everything runs toward the outside part of the plate. >> john: you'd have to think he'd have difficulty getting a ball in on a lefty. he might be a guy you could just look away. he's trying to come in here, but can he? >> tom: well, he does. >> john: he does. >> tom: and cesar fights it off. >> john: it's nice, though, you get to fly home this afternoon, you get all day tomorrow. >> tom: phillies are home for just a brief three games and then back to the road after that. atlanta,

here is bloomberg editor-in-chief, john micklethwait. john: we're in toronto.prices have gone up by a third over the past year. there is huge growth in vancouver as well. and today, the ontario government announced a 15% tax on foreigners coming to buy houses here. i suppose i have two questions for you. one, is this a bubble, and is this the way to fix it? the other one is, surely as a liberal, what is wrong with someone like me coming here to buy a house? p.m. trudeau: i encourage you to come and move to canada, and settle, spend all of your money, and invest, and hire more people. we are open to global investment. i think one of the challenges we are facing, and we certainly saw it -- john: you can't, with a straight face, say you are open to global investment on one hand, and then charge people 15% if they want to buy a house? p.m. trudeau: it depends on whether it is speculation, or whether it is living to move moving in to live. the challenge that we're facing is one of, and we saw this more acutely year ago in vancou a dearth of data on exactly who's doi

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the words and the ideas are john kennedy's. felt the, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. he believed that by calling on the better angels of people so much could get done. whether going to the moon, peace corps, or so many other areas. are reflecting on those who died in the battlefield. in this scene john f. kennedy and the internal flame at arlington national cemetery. how quickly did the family come together and determined this would be a lasting tribute to president kennedy. >> no one was expecting this. people were thinking about a reelection campaign. family came together to look at different ways to memorialize him. the biggest ways what president johnson did in legislation, civil rights and others. that president kennedy started, lyndon johnson continued and did a great job with. then you have the kennedy center for the arts. the arts was something very important to the president. we continually show things at the presidential library museum, including the new exhibit the jus

john: which bit worries you most?f this bubble suddenly popping and there being problems that way, or continuing to go along and push ever more houses out of the reach of the affordability of people? p.m. trudeau: i think -- i will let the housing speculators and experts make determinations around that. my focus is on making sure that for the medium and long-term, people in toronto, and across the country, can afford their homes. and that means working on the supply side, making sure we are investing in more rental stock. making sure that we are investing in new construction in affordable housing so the market can adjust itself without either popping or crashing. john: what worries you most in the canadian economy at the moment? what is your biggest fear is you go to sleep? p.m. trudeau: a lot of it is around confidence versus anxiety. if, as we have seen, people continue to sense that their kids arenât going to have the kind of opportunities and quality of life they were able to inherit from their parents, a sense of

i'm a veteran from john f. served during the cuban missile crisis, the russians world.ing to blowup the i was also involved with james meredith, ox fared and mississippi, the first black ban oxford, ed to enter mississippi. i was there. i was on the campus. five feet from james meredith at different times, i 101st airborne division. i don't understand why the reflect what he accomplished on the cuban crisis concerning russia. if we didn't trust russia back should we trust russia now? host: thank you for the call. get a response. you for your call and thank you for your service, sounds like you have been important th many issues and our country is better off because of your efforts. that john kennedy, after set ay of pigs, worked to up better communication, he established the situation room that hadn't been there. hotline and teletype to ussia, he, the daily security briefing, the navy seals, the get beret, he wanted to better information, those were important bay the time we got to crisis, his sile brothers and

-- they would wait to get to john last and say john, what should we do?hould drama ties the issue, we should drama ties the issue. that was one of his big things and that's what we would do. we would drama ties the issue. john has a series of books called "march" and they have brought the civil rights struggle to the light of a new generation and a generation to come. one of the things that we always said, for example, whether it was sit-ins or the freedom rides, that what we did was for our generation and the generations to come, and we -- those of us who were out there fighting in 1960, 1961 and years after, we're still out on the trail, we're still fighting the battle, talking to young students, whether they be in elementary school, junior high, high school, or college and even talking to some teachers to make sure that they tell the story of our history, the american history, the way it should be. [ applause ] now let's take a look at a video of the life works of my friend, john robert lewis. note note note note ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we do not wont want our free

john hielscher. >> it had been real.it had to be true. >> like a piece of heaven falling down in your lap. >> yeah. >> john told julianne what happened that awful night in the summer of 1987. it was party night, he said. john and his classmates just graduated from grosse pointe north high school. that's in the suburb where the captains of industry lived. several miles and tax brackets across the city line of detroit. and after a few beers, the partiers decided to drive over and buy some marijuana from old man bob. >> just call up, say you're coming back, go to the back door. there. that's what we were going to do that night. >> john and four friends jumped in a car, a white plymouth horizon and drove over to make the buy. when they got there, they walked up the driveway to bob's back door just as that eyewitness later told the police. except for one detail. and it was a big one. the eyewitness identified the highers' brothers as the young men he saw in the driveway. but said john hielscher, it wasn't them. it was him. he

host: reflecting on john f. because had he lived, he would have been 100 years old born may 29th, 19sdlt 79 in brookline, massachusetts. oined by staeft steeft, dire -- steven rothstein, director of library.f. kennedy guest: the papers are owned by archives, we ial work with them to amplify, share information and coordinate courage award, a few short weeks ago president obama received, civics education and other initiatives with and in close partnership the national archives. host: let me also go back to the same month he traveled to west berlin, he gave rights.h on civil he was assassinated before president lyndon johnson could civil rights legislation in 1964 and 1965, here is how john kennedy set up the debate. > we are confronted with a moral issue tis oldest scripture american clear as the constitution. the heart of the question is, be her all americans are to afforded equal rights and equal we are ities, whether going to treat fellow americans treated, if in e america because your skin is dark, cannot eat

john: you think governments look at infrastructure in the wrong way?are running a company, which you have done several times, long-term investment, that would be counted differently than short-term cash flow. is that one of the restrictions you face? mr. mnuchin: absolutely. as you know when you are running a business, you have an income statement and balance sheet, and if you are making an investment with a 20 year or 30 year payback, you don't expense it all in day one or look at it as a complete expense. the government budget treats everything is cached, so it makes it more difficult. john: if you had to bring them to finance infrastructure, what is the main -- you would make, pricing, long-term? mr. mnuchin: we have seen lots of interest from our counterparts investing in the united states, infrastructure or other opportunities, so i think this is something we will be able to get done. john: the long-term plan to boost growth, does that come back to what ronald reagan did? you cut taxes, get rid of regulations, and that will push growth by itself?

john: can we go through a few of those?, on the deductions, you have done a lot about getting rid of most deductions. it distorts markets, pushes money towards property. why didn't you choose to target that? mr. mnuchin: the key things we talked about keeping our -- keeping are charitable deductions and the other is the mortgage interest deduction. the big part of the american dream is to own a home. john: it is not necessarily political? mr. mnuchin: it is not necessarily political. homeownership is important. it is a big part of the economy. housing finance is an important part of creating growth. john: we talked about regulations and getting rid of them. which ones do you particularly want to target? you talk about dodd-frank being too narrow on finance. you said it could be broader. how would you define that? mr. mnuchin: in financial services, we are not just looking at dodd-frank. we are looking at every single thing impacting, and we have had hundreds of people come in. we have reached out to big banks, small banks,

dangerous foul ball, and miraculously, nobody was hurt. >> john: wow. that hit her arm. >> joe: blistered into the seats. >> john: wow. >> joe: runner at first will go. three balls, two strikes on baez. szczur. that tear down the left field line, baez will dig for a second and now hold, a run is in, and 11-4 game, hit the ball hard place. tenth rbi of and third again with two out. >> john: see how he coils and on coils, tremendous power, ability out of baez, cut down on strikeouts. >> joe: bring in a miguel montero, who is really off to a good start in a lot of different ways. not only has he had a nice beginning to the year with his three home runs, his .385 average, but he and his wife both became u.s. citizens this past week, a big swing and dimmers, one ball, one pitch, rather, and one strike. that squirts away, baez down to second, almora holding at third with two outs. >> john: baez, by nature, going to be aggressive anyways. his instincts are pretty incredible. as you mentioned, the slide by russell, maybe the aggressiveness there by baez, joe ma

the john f. kennedy presidential library in boston has taken the lead with a major exhibition on may 26.pen there is installed a special display of stairs about president kennedy's creation of the peace corps. hanging outside my office is a letter i wrote to jfk asking for information about the proposed peace corps. i never got a response. to find out more about these jfk centennial activities, check the jfk centennial website, jfkcentennial.org. today we are privileged to hear from president kennedy's own nephew, stephen kennedy smith and historian doug wrinkly about -- doug brinkley about president kennedy. stephen kennedy smith is a board member of a john f. kennedy library and served on the staff of the senate judiciary and foreign relations committee and a three-time recipient for the dan ford award at harvard law school. douglas brinkley is a professor of history. he is the cnn presidential historian. he is the author of a number of "st-selling books, including delugee" and "the great ." br

john wayne gacy. his art shows attract even more bold-face names. >> he kept a database, and so he could mail out, you know, 5,000 invitations at a time. if you were on baird's list, you know you're going to run into a 100 people you know. you're bound to see hoop. he sort of had the same crew always there. >> but every great party comes to an end. and in 2007, concern is spreading among baird's closest friends, like marianne macy. >> you know, the 4:00 or 5:00 a.m. lifestyle had to change. he didn't look healthy. people's lifestyles changed, and baird was still out there doing a lot of the same stuff. >> do you want to do it afterwards? >> no, right now is cool. >> i think it was more like work for him later. >> on february 21, 2008, baird jones, life of the party circuit, is found dead in his apartment. he's 53 years old. do you remember when you heard he had passed? >> i was shocked. i mean, he was way too young to die, and i didn't know that he had ever had any health problems. >> an autopsy revea

maybe because there are so many john mcafees. >> john mcafee is one of the wildest characters you'll ever come across. >> reporter: there's mcafee the party animal. >> john? >> huh? >> reporter: mcafee the silicon valley gazillionare. >> it is the number one computer threat. >> reporter: mcafee the international fugitive. >> he's someone that i feel is dangerous. >> reporter: even mcafee the presidential candidate. >> stand with me to protect our freedom. >> reporter: pinning down the truth of mcafee's life story is never easy because often it is as slippery as he is. >> he is like teflon, nothing sticks to the man. >> reporter: if the name "mcafee" rings a bell, it should. there's a good chance it's on your home computer screen right now. yup, he's the guy behind the famous mcafee antivirus software. when we say we are going to talk tomorrow, does that mean face to face? i first crossed paths with mcafee in 2012, when he'd become even more famous south of the border. he was on the run, and would only talk to me by phone. >> you may not think you are being followed but i can assure y

just this week, it was on life-support. >> john, john, that's not true -- john, i have to stop you. that's a talking point -- >> if you live in iowa, you have no exchanges. aetna just pulled out of -- >> you have to -- >> they had to do something. >> john, let me get in here. that was a talking point. obamacare was not perfect. it could have been fixed. if there was bipartisan consensus, if they had gotten together. but to say that obamacare is imploding is a talking point from the right. that is not correct. and if you're going to say things like that, you have to give it in context and give the whole thing. one is because they weren't letting the mandate happen. they weren't enforcing the mandate. the other thing is because according to republicans and democrats, it's the way that this administration is talking about obamacare, it's causing uncertainty among insurers. it's not imploding. it's not like it's sitting there and imploding. there's a force behind that. go ahead, john. >> well, aetna pulled out of virginia. iowa didn't have any exchanges for any insurance companies to go

the john f. kennedy presidential library in boston has taken leave of a major evidence vision -- major exhibition that will open on june 6. there is installed a special abouty of stairs president kennedy's creation of the peace corps. hanging outside my office is a letter i wrote to jfk asking for information about the proposed peace corps. i never got a response. more about these jfk centennial activities, check the jfk centennial website, jfk centennial.org. today we are privileged to hear from president kennedy's own nephew, stephen kennedy smith aboutstorian doug wrinkly brinkleykley -- doug about president kennedy. he is a board member of a john f. kennedy library and served on the staff of the senate judiciary and foreign relations committee and a three-time recipient for the dan ford award at harvard law school. a professorkley is of history. a number ofthor of best-selling books. brinkley has also written books on theodore roosevelt, jimmy carter, and ronald reagan and has often appeared

john f. kennedy. he was born on the day may 29 in brooklyn, massachusetts in 1917. michelle: there are a number of events to mark the occasion in d.c. remembering the president. jeff goldberg is live for us at the kennedy center with the events taking place there. jeff? jeff: the kennedy center is a living memorial to john f. kennedy jr. a few moments ago a big celebration got going here celebrating what would have been the 100th birthday of the former president. this is the culmination of a year-long celebrations at the kennedy center. today actors and musicians and the jrn major speeches written by president kennedy as well as performing music and dance. john f. kennedy was a congressman and senator from massachusetts before being elected president in 1960. of course, he was assassinated in dallas, texas, on november 22, 1963. the performance happening here today is honoring the legacy of john f. kennedy jr. >> he stood for a humanity that was aspirational, optimistic, filled with hope. and

lou: john, do you agree?> i do, it going to be more of the same, i don't think how he will go through with the policy deregulating the european economy as long as he is committed into stray staying in the eu. lou: looking at hollande. 70% taxes, is now most least popular president in french history. john browne, we're watching something happen here. i think there is a clarification for many americans, that populism that exists in the united states, is not quite the same as that which exists but close to that which exists in the uk, but has nothing to do with marine la pen and her policies. it looks like there they are on solid footing in the eu for now? >> yes, i think that is right. populism in the united states and great britain is different from populism in continental europe. i think that la pen's one big mistake was to be ain'to anti-nato. it carved into her vote, it was a negative campaign, anti-eu, and immigration, and nato the and system, and macron's thing was very positive. i think that the nato thi

john wayne gacy. his art shows attract even more bold-face names. >> he kept a database, and so he could mail out, you know, 5,000 invitations at a time. if you were on baird's list, you know you're going to run into a 100 people you know. you're bound to see hoop. he sort of had the same crew always there. >> but every great party comes to an end. and in 2007, concern is spreading among baird's closest friends, like marianne macy. >> you know, the 4:00 or 5:00 a.m. lifestyle had to change. he didn't look healthy. people's lifestyles changed, and baird was still out there doing a lot of the same stuff. >> do you want to do it afterwards? >> no, right now is cool. >> i think it was more like work for him later. >> on february 21, 2008, baird jones, life of the party circuit, is found dead in his apartment. he's 53 years old. do you remember when you heard he had passed? >> i was shocked. i mean, he was way too young to die, and i didn't know that he had ever had any health problems. >> an autopsy revea

john mosby was one of those men, and as i've said oftentimes, john mosby being inducted into the unitedstates army ranger hall of fame is not unlike troy aikman from the dallas cowboys being inducted into the washington redskins hall of fame. note,ittle more serious but nonetheless, his abilities and skills are accepted and still to this day remain part of special forces and ranger lineage in the united states army. that completes my talk. are there any questions? [applause] >> thanks, eric. as a reminder, i'm sure we have a couple of questions. you need to come down to the microphones, state your name and ask your question, because this is on c-span, so you need to come to the microphone please. >> [indiscernible] [laughter] to the microphone and ask the question. state your name, where you are from, and ask the question. >> excuse me, sir, what happened to mosby -- what happened to his career after the war? mr. buckland: mosby was a lawyer by trade. postwar, there were a few fits and starts because there was he wouldtion as to if ever be paroled. there was actually a question of if yo

. >> now john mcafee in a no holds barred interview. >> you're asking the most ridiculous thing. >> as he tries to sound at larm on cyber security. >> our security is being eroded and we have no more privacy. >>> and -- ♪ the it boys of the '90s who mm-bopped their way to the tocchet charts, now all grown up and mmm-back. ♪ with a new single "i was born." how this band of brothers is staying true to their music. >>> plus melissa mccarthy takes her act to the streets of new york city ahead of her big "snl" return as sean spicer. but first the "nightline" 5. >>> number 1 in ju >>> good evening. thank you for joining us. he's the millionaire behind the household name that's protected millions of computers for decades. but after john mcafee cashed in on his pioneering anti-virus software, he dropped off the radar. he became an international fugitive, running from police who wanted to question him about a murder in belize. and now he's finally ready to tell his story, but only and exclusively to abc's matt gutman. >> reporter: he is a party animal. >> john? >> huh? >> reporter: a one-time t

prosecuting the would-be assassin, john we junior. they recall of vacuuming the president from the hotel and the details of subsequent changes in the secret service's security protocols. the national law enforcement museum hosted his 90 minute event at the same >> ladies and gentlemen, welcome. flight.is crank and the president and ceo of the national law enforcement officers memorial fund. tonight on behalf of the board of directors, we are pleased to present our 16 witness to history program. this is a series of programs we invite the actual participants of historical law enforcement events to tell us their stories. it has been fascinating. them, itnt, we don't will be a permanent part of the museum archives, and we couldn't be prouder of the content we had assembled and compiled so far. tonight's event will explore the assassination attempt on president ronald reagan 26 years ago. 30, one ago on march week or so ago. before we begin, i want to acknowledge and thank our partner and very proud sponsor of our witness to history series

john timberlake was a navy purser. and what that means is that he would go out and be an accountant for the united states navy. so he would be gone for months on end on ships, keeping track of wages and that sort of thing. so while he was gone, john eaton and margaret o'neill timberlake would go to social functions together, and rumors started to spread that they were having an affair. well, then john timberlake committed suicide. and the account was that he had slit his own throat because he found out that his wife and his best friend, john eaton, were having an affair. now, whether that's true or not, -- he did kill himself, but whether it was because of the affair, the alleged affair, we don't know. but -- so, margaret eaton is now -- margaret o'neill timberlake is now a widow. and less than a year after her husband commits suicide, she marries john eaton, the man she was allegedly having an affair with. so all of this happens before jackson becomes president. well, jackson appoints eaton to be secretary of war and

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john langellier: yes, sir. west point would finally open up andhe post-civil war certain other area to a very small number of cadet candidates who passed the exam. every cadet prior to henry o. flipper, class of 1877, as with henry o. flipper recent chilly ostracized by their fellow cadets. they lived in their own room, which is not a bad thing. some of us have had roommates in college we wished we did not have, but they were spoken to officially in command when they were in the unit, falling in for formation, or in classrooms. they would translate a latin verse or to come to the board for trigonometry or something. so flipper will graduate as the first of three black candidates who will become cadets and then actually receive their commission at west point. he will be sent to the 10th cavalry ultimately in texas and serve at fort davis, texas. he is a second lieutenant. we all know if you have been in the military, they are like a nice hat, -- pet, but you have to care and feed them, because they might go fera

just this week, it was on life support -- >> john, john, that's not true. >> if you live in iowa. >> i have to stop you. that's not true. >> you had no exchanges. aetna just pulled out of virginia. the thing was dying. they had to do something. >> let me get in here. that is a talking point. obamacare was not perfect. it could have been fixed if there was bipartisan consensus, if they had gotten together. but to say that obamacare is imploding is a talking point from the right. that is not correct. and if you're going to say things like that, you have to give it in context and give the whole thing. one is because they weren't letting the mandate happen. they weren't enforcing the mandate. and the other thing is that according to republicans and democrats, it's the way that this administration is talking about obamacare. it's causing uncertainty among insurers. so it's not imploding. it's not like it's sitting there and imploding. there's a force behind that. go ahead, john. >> well, aetna pulled out of virginia. iowa didn't have any exchanges for any insurance companies to go in. all