i thought john bolton said it well. donald trump cares about donald trump.e doesn't care about you or your family. he is not interested in doing anything that's actually going to help you or your family. for the biden campaign, what they have to do is define the contours of this race, make clear what a second term ofpres. trump is an incumbent this time around. there are a lot of promises he made he didn't keep. there was a lot of chaos and a lot of damage that he did that sort of swing voters, dwindling as they are, are comfortable with. the more they are reminded of that, the more they see the clear choice between the two. i think biden will benefit over time. to me, that's what this campaign is about. that's the success of the biden campaign is make or break, whether they can do that. >> this is -- it's important to note, trump is not the republican nominee yet. we don't know what the voters are going to decide. we wait to see what they decide. we look at the polling. we wait to see what they decide when the iowa caucuses happen and the new hampshire prim

ambassador john bolton -- >> it's a blood -- there's no question. you have to be careful of invoking hitler. it's very significant. >> ambassador john bolton, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> up next, i will be joined by a republican who voted against overturning the 2020 election and is a target of trump's wrath because he endorsed someone else. republican congressman chip roy, he is up ahead. (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪) get exclusive offers on select new volvo models. contact your volvo retailer to learn more. >>> primaries are on donald trump's mind tonight as we continue to follow the breaking news with trump being kicked off the primary ballot in colorado. the former president tonight is calling for someone, anyone, he says, to primary an ultra conservative republican congressman. his target, texas congressman chip roy. his offense seems to be his support for florida governor ron desantis in the 2024 republican race. on truth social, the former president wrote, has any smart, energetic republican in the great state of texas decided to run

all this comes, and we're joined now tonight by donald trump's former national security adviser, john bolton. ambassador bolton, great to have you here tonight. i wonder what you make of christy's response to those who have said he should drop out, consolidate the number of trump alternatives. he's basically saying, thanks, but no thanks. >> well, i think it's a very powerful ad, and he makes an important point. to beat donald trump, you have to explain why donald trump is not capable of being president. and that's what he's trying to do, rather than the tactics of some of the other candidates still in the race. look, this has gone back and forth. i certainly believe that one point that we should narrow the field, have one person against trump. that obviously didn't go anywhere. it's not three weeks till the iowa caucuses, four weeks to new hampshire. i think the best way to prevail against trump now on the republican nomination is to diminish his vote, get it as low as possible, and show that he may have a plurality, but there's still a wide open possibility that somebody else could get to

with me now, john bolton, who served as national security adviser to president trump, until september, 2019. mr. bolton, what do you know about this binder? >> well, i haven't heard anything more than what came from the cnn reporting. i must say, the very existence of the binder, as has been described, strikes me a strange. it does not sound like something the cia would do, these various documents, some, supposedly, raw intelligence. others, different kinds of communications, or evaluations. i do not get that part of it. it does sound like something that, maybe, someone not all that familiar with government processed, but who had access to classified information, may put together. >> it is interesting, and i think you are right. it does seem odd that any document would have all of this information, all in one place, making it easy for someone to walk away with it. one of the other parts of this is mark meadows, and his role. he is now cooperating with the special counsel, and he, in some ways, is at the center of the story. his legal team alleges, he had nothing to do with this binder

with me now to discuss this is john bolton. he was national security advisory for president trump. this was not an intelligence failure. it seems to have been a failure for the government to act on intelligence they already had, right? >> i think it helps to understand how intelligence works. a lot of information comes in and israels are superior, a lot comes into the u.s. intelligence agencies and one of the key things is trying to separate the weak and the signals from the noises they say. the fact that, look, this is a gross intelligence failure, no doubt about it but it is not clear to me that we identified the reason for that failure. and i think that is going to be part of the post hostility frenzy. the document that the "new york times" reported this morning could well have been examined as disinformation. and a way to not focus on the wrong. >> there was a document and eyes on a dry run of this attack, what ended up being the october 7th that matched what the document laid out. it is the combination of those things, don't you think that should of raised some flags? >> well,

with me now to discuss this is john bolton, former u.n. ambassador and was national security adviser for president trump. this wasn't, ambassador bolton, an intelligence failure. it seems to have been a failure of the government to act on intelligence that they already had, right? >> well, i think it helps to understand how intelligence works. a lot of information comes in to superior intelligence agencies, and israel's are generally considered superior. a lot comes into u.s. intelligence agencies. and one of the key things is trying to separate the wheat from the chaff, the signal from the noise, as they say. so the fact that -- look, this is a gross intelligence failure, there's no doubt about it. but it's not entirely clear to me that we've identified the reason for that failure. and i think that's going to be part of the post-hostility forensics. you know, the document that "the new york times" reported this morning could well have been examined as disinformation, as a way to get israel to focus on the wrong thing. >> but there was the

we'll start with a view from the right within bastard john bolton, who serves as national security advisor under former president donald trump. investor. thank you so much for joining us today. as we're speaking, israel and her boss have read to the deal where it is rarely hostages are going to be exchanged for palestinian prisoners. how do you feel about this deal and what are your expectations? well, i think everybody from a humanitarian point of view should welcome the people who were kidnapped on october, the 7th being released i, i have a general objection to making swap deals for hostages. i think this case is a good example of why it's a bad idea. number one, the ratio is 3 to one that's, that's never a good sign number to the people that israel is going to release or essentially criminals. they're not people who were kidnapped while they were enjoying themselves at rock festivals or something like that. so i think this moral equivalence is a mistake, and i think it gives an incentive to hostage takers because if they can bargain like this, they know that taking hostages as well wor

we'll start with the view from the right within master john bolton, who served as national security advisor under former president donald trump. investor. thank you so much for joining us today. as we're speaking, israel and her boss have reached the deal. where is really hostages are going to be exchanged for palestinian prisoners. how do you feel about this deal and what are your expectations? well, i think everybody from a humanitarian point of view should welcome the people who were kidnapped on october, the 7th being released i, i have a general objection to making swap deals for hostages. i think this case is a good example of why it's a bad idea. number one, the ratio is 3 to one that's, that's never a good side number to the people that israel is going to release or essentially criminals. they're not people who were kidnapped while they were enjoying themselves at rock festivals or something like that. so i think this moral equivalence is a mistake, and i think it gives an incentive to hostage takers because if they can bargain like this, they know that taking hostages as well worth

their own professional reputation sake would be in the white house counsel's office. >> all right, john bolton thank you for coming in tonight. >> glad to be with you. >>> new tonight, matthew perry's official cause of death revealed to be quote acute effects of ketamine. >>> plus, melalania trump's remarks at a citizen ceremony y loving this pay bump in our allowance. wonder where mom and dad got the extra money? maybe they won the lottery? maybe they inherited a fortune? maybe buried treasure? maybe it fell off a truck? maybe they heard that xfinity customers can save hundreds when they buy one unlimted line and get one free. now i can buy that electric scooter! i'm starting a private-equity fund that specializes in midcap. you do you. visit xfinitymobile.com today. . >>> now tonight, the los angeles medical examiner's office has relsed the autopsy report f actor matthew perry. the "frien" star was 54 and died from acute effects of ketamine subsequent to drowning. he was receiving it for depression and anxiety. joining me now a addiction psychiatrist. dr. lee tell us why would matthew perry

growing chorus against the republican presidential front runner, former national security adviser john bolton, former deputy white house press secretary sarah matthews. ambassador bolton, let me start with you. because i just wonder what you make of what liz cheney had to say in these blunt mornings that you know, it's no surprise that she's saying this. but the fact that she is -- coming out months before this election is going to get underway, potentially when trump is the republican nominee. >> well, i think the criticism that she makes of trump, are exactly correct. i don't think there's any doubt that if he were the nominee, and elected president, he would cause serious damage to the country. but i don't think it's existential. and i think it's important for voters to understand what the nature of the problem is, and what the remedy needs to be. i think if you overstate the problem, you are inviting the wrong kind of response from the other side. and under stating the problem is just as serious. i think trump's election to a second term would mean constitutional crisis on a daily basis.

ambassador john bolton -- >> but it's liable. there is no question it's blood libel. have to be careful of invoking hitler, it's very, very significant. >> ambassador bolton, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> up next, i will be joined by republicans who voted against overturning the 2020 election, and now is a target of trump's raft again because he endorsed someone else who is wanting to be president in 2024. republican congressman chip roy. he is up ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> primaries are on donald trump's mind tonight, as we continue to follow the breaking news, trump being kicked off the primary ballot in the state of colorado. the former president tonight is calling for someone, anyone, he says, to primary against an ultra conservative republican congressman. his target? texas congressman chip roy. his offense seems to be his support for florida governor ron desantis in that 2024 republican race. on truth social today, the former president wrote, quote, has any smart and energetic republican in the great state of texas decided to run in a primary against r

support for trump came from a completely unexpected direction from john bolton, who can’t stand him. florida estate, but the statement that so offended biden was made by his opponent at a rally in new hampshire. the republican candidate quoted putin about the rottenness of america. why does biden take hunter with him at all? it’s unclear, yesterday’s filming, the lawn of the white house, immediately after the president of the united states , his unlucky son descends down the ladder of marn’s helicopter. so, hunter is apparently in the white house, having defied a congressional subpoena, while he faces up to 17 years behind bars, that is, a man facing prison time for not paying taxes, at the expense of american taxpayers. news usa. what do you remember? let's tell this day in history right now. hello. on december 21, 1868 , the battle of prelomas valentinas began, a key event in the paraguayan war, which lasted about 5 years in the sixties of the 19th century. paraguay was an economically developed country, but landlocked. trade had to be done through neighboring uruguay, from there ,

support has come to trump. from a completely unexpected side from john bolton, who can’t stand him.ion is extremely erroneous in many ways. reasons. i'll bet money the supreme court will overturn the verdict if it comes to review. there is no other logical way, otherwise chaos in the elections cannot be avoided. the possibility cannot be ruled out that chaos is what they are trying to achieve. in 2020, both the pandemic and the blm protests played right into biden’s hands. when all of american politics has long been plunged into the abyss of conspiracy theories, it does not seem just a coincidence that just a few minutes before the colorado supreme court ruled to remove trump from the election, his rival at a meeting with party donors in maryland, so actively demonized his opponent. it’s been a long time since a republican has been called an agent of the kremlin; the clinton story hasn’t taught biden anything. this weekend , trump supported his old one. friend of vladimir putin. trump even quoted him. this is not surprising. after all, moscow and maralaga have a lot in common. maral

former trump national security adviser john bolton has spent a lot of time with donald trump and the dictators. he's coming up first. the fight for reproductive freedom in texas gets a name in a face. as kate cox's story grips the state in the nation. the texas supreme court pauses a ruling that would allow her to get an abortion. also today, the president of upenn resigns amid an uproar over her handling of questions on antisemitism during a congressional hearing. professor and bestselling author adam grant joins me with his reaction. and later, with the iowa caucuses just around the corner, a deep dive into one of the most perplexing relationships in politics today. the one between donald trump and evangelical voters. ♪ ♪ ♪ so, i worked in politics for a long time, and in government for a long time, as did my first guest. and sometimes, that work included planning for the day one priorities of presidential candidates. specifically, for me, for barack obama, and of course, joe biden. obviously, a lot goes into that process. day one priorities are a reflection of the challenges the c

- the choice for secretary of state in the trump administration is down to rudolph giuliani and john boltonaybe me. i don't know. - "it's the only one i'm interested in." but the cool kids were worried about what america's mayor had been doing to make millions in between leaving public service. he was taking a lot of money from foreign governments, foreign actors, some of them a little sketchy. he had agreed to be a liaison at huge, lucrative payouts for authoritarian president of turkey in what appeared to be an effort to quash a federal investigation in new york looking at corruption by the turkish government and the president himself. he had also taken money from an iranian opposition group that was on a terrorist list. he had taken money from the government of qatar. the list went on and on. those were gonna be a lot of conflicts and complications. - so a few of the adults--a few of the sort of og politicians inside trump world were like, "we can get crazy, but not that crazy." - rudy giuliani, long on the shortlist for the spot, removed his name from consideration. - he steps back, but

have to come from garza and they're also going to have to be and i, i understand you've talked to john bolton about this. there's gonna have to be some kind of way that people in the gaza strip can exit. to go find work in play and send remittances home. and one of the rules that persian gulf governments can have is they can offer a work permits to people willing to, to try their hands. so they can earn a living because the aid is not going to flow the way it used to do you see an end of work permits for palace, damian's in israel, because a lot of the transfer payments and the economic activity of both the west bank and gaza was tied to these rarely economy and it really breaks the question, what is real, play a role in rebuilding costs. we have like some day this has to be an economic unit. some day it has to impossible to get on the train in cairo and get off the train to damascus with a stop in jerusalem in between. and all elizabeth area is too small for suit, for so many borders and so much antagonists. but i don't think, i don't think any time soon. it's gonna be a lot of movement from

he once said i don't give a shift about nato to john bolton, his national security adviser.uring his first term there were enough people around including bolton and mike pence and others who persuaded him nevertheless to stay in. in the second term, those people will not be there. and what i think most people don't know about nato is that although it is a treaty, in which the united states and its allies agreed to help one another in case one or the other is attacked. it doesn't have any clear obligation and and the psychology is more important than the law. so as soon as trump said i'm not going to defend anybody or help ukraine or participate in this nato support for ukraine, then immediately the whole idea of collective defense disappears. and it would clearly be one of the first things he does as president. >> and it is happening at a time when i wouldn't exaggerate it but there is some softening for support in europe, either a kind of war weariness or what is going on on that end of the atlantic? >> what is happening in europe is similar to what is happening in the unit

he once said i don't give a shit about nato to john bolton, his national security adviser. during his first term there were enough people around including bolton, including mike pence, including others who persuaded him nevertheless to stay in. in his second term those people will not be there, and what i think most americans don't know, in fact, what most people don't know about nato is that although it's a treaty in which the united states and its allies agree to help one another in case one or the other is attacked, it doesn't have any clear obligations and it's also much more the psychology of theed in a otreaty is more important than the law. if trump says i'm not going to help anybody, i'm not going to defend ukraine and then immediately the whole idea of collective defense disappears and it would clearly be one of the first thing hs he does if h becomes president. >> there is some softening of support in europe either a kind of war weariness or what's going on on that end of the atlantic? >> what's happening in europe is very similar to what's happening in the united

. >> just a couple days ago, i was talking to john bolton, who is, to be clear, no fan of donald trumpught that language was pretty alarmist. and i've actually heard that from several pretty anti trump republicans. they think that she's gone a little too far and how she talks about this. she is not moved by that at all. she's doubling down, it seems. >> there is no doubt about it. she seems to very much believe that the guard rails of democracy, that not only are they not as secure as many of us like to believe they were or before the trump administration, but also that the former president has learned from the mistakes he made and things he wasn't able to do before. and would not make the same mistakes, that, essentially the people around him have learned from the mistakes of the first administration. >> you mentioned the third-party, run that you get the same that she's keeping that option open but, more likely, less likely to go that route? >> i don't have any real insight on that. i think, look, i don't think she wants to do anything that would help donald trump become that next pr

absolute amateur, of course in the intelligence services, i ’m sorry, i’ll just pick it up, recently john boltonns he saw the light and said that russia has a large army, a large territory and a lot of people. someone probably gave him a map or a reference book, well, excuse me, please, no, no, no, everything is correct, well, in general, it’s possible, of course, on the one hand this is a reason for smile, come on, come on, let steve finish the thought. at a certain moment of this madness in order to say that the only proactive moment for containing russia or china, for example, may be that we drop an atomic bomb on the same territory of belarus, yes, because the united states will not suffer from this, as it was in japan, and what will happen to us, they don’t really care about it, he doesn’t care, so i want to draw attention to the words of alexander grigorievich when he talked with the heads of the cis services, intelligence services cis, as they are correctly called in each, he says that we must stick together. because today we have common interests, once there was a collapse of the union o

>> well, famously trump told john bolton, i don't give a shit about nato, and bolten said the only reason trump didn't act on it is because he and rex tillerson, and mike pence, and mike pompeo prevented him from doing it. none of those people will be in the white house or anywhere near the white house in trump's second term. all of them have criticized him since 2020. he will not rehire them. instead, he will have a cohort of officials who are either people who don't care about nato, and don't care about america's alliances around the world or are actively hostile to them. and so we will see a very different set of policies. remember, what's really important about nato, tit's not just a treaty. it's a treaty that says everybody who signed it should come to the defense of anyone who's attacked. why don't the russians attack poland, given that so much aid for ukraine is coming through poland. the reason they don't do it is because they think the u.s. would respond. once they don't believe the u.s. will respond, then why not do it. >> and your point about article v, when was that invoked, f

and john bolton said you can take top 20 floors off the u.n. would not make a difference. >> we saw it took the u.n. women 57 days to come out and condemn sexual violence and mutilation against israeli women and men that was committed by hamas. these are atrocious acts. it's not about sexual excitement for hamas, it is about degradation, it is about humiliation, it is about the power behind the act, and again, if this had been any other group of individuals, the united nations would have been out right away. the reason they weren't, these women are jewish. that's it. that is it. so we are sorely disappointed in the united nations. they hide behind the facade of a human rights organization and they have failed miserably. >> john: and one was on cnn and asked by the host why she couldn't condemn hamas for engaging in sexual violence as a weapon of war. listen to the answer. >> u.n. women always supports impartial, independent investigations into any serious allegations of gender-based or sexual violence, and within the u.n. family these investiga

wisdom of the traditionalists in both parties, other republicans -- nikki haley, chris christie, john bolton, it is not that different than joe biden. it is the same foreign-policy disguised in different clothing. republicans want to cut funding, democrats say no. they say if vladimir putin gets any territory, that will embolden xi jinping. they don't think by analogy, they think by raw power. russia is being driven by us further into china's hands. xi jinping, his bit is the u.s. will not want to go to war with russia and china at the same time. if they are in an alliance. if we can pull russia out of china's hands, that would be the deal i would do in the ukraine war, xi jinping has to think twice before invading taiwan. you at india on our side, a hard commitment from the u.s., i love the second amendment, export the second amendment to taiwan. we will throw the ball, it is up to them to catch it. every taiwanese household, train them how to use it. it will make xi jinping think twice. a comprehensive deterrence strategy to make sure we never go to war. my job as your next president -- ho

this level a person is an absolute amateur, of course, i’m sorry, i’ll just pick it up, recently john boltonthat means i received my sight. said that it turns out that russia has a large army, a large territory and a lot of people, someone probably gave him a map or a reference book, well, excuse me, no, no, no, everything is correct, well, in general, it’s possible, of course, on the one hand this is a reason to smile, let steve finish his thought, steve finished his thought , that’s why i picked it up, on the one hand, on the other hand, we must not forget, after the second world war, and in general, here are the atomic bombs that were dropped on... in belarus, yes, because the united states they won’t suffer from this, as was the case in japan, and what will happen to us, they don’t really care about it, they don’t care, so i want to draw attention to the words of alexander grigorievich when he talked with the leaders of the cis services, the cis intelligence services, how they they are correctly called in each, he says that we must stick together, because today we have common interests,

>> yeah, it's a real concern because, you know, john bolton told, i believe, in his book or in interviews after his time in the oval office that donald trump wanted to get out of nato. that wasn't performative. that wasn't just saying something so that he could get an applause line. he truly wanted out of there. he doesn't understand what nato is. he thinks the u.s. is paying all this money into nato when really it's just a commitment among allies and frankly has been the greatest thing to prevent war in the last 70 or 80 years. but take it very seriously. donald trump will withdraw from nato. and if you're somebody that doesn't want to get america embroiled in another war -- none of us want to get america in another war -- you get rid of nato, and i guarantee you that makes war very likely for the united states because the greatest security construct in the post-world war ii order will be shattered. >> all right. congressman adam kinzinger, thanks very much for your time this afternoon. appreciate it. >> you bet. >>> coming up, at least six people were killed after tornadoes ripped throu

and many talk about john bolton, quote, the damage he did in his first term term was repairable.ore into what it is that bolton told you here, anne? >> so, bolton and i were talking about nato. and we were talking about trump's attitude to european allies, asian allies, to american democratic allies around the world. trump feels no natural kinship with other democracies. he doesn't think of himself as the leader of the democratic world, like presidents before him, since at least the second world war have always done. he thinks of himself rather as a transactional figure. you know, he admires dictators. he preferred, he really enjoyed the time he spent with kim jong-un, the dictator of north korea. he embarrassed the united states by appearing to tout putin, the dictator of russia. you know, he seemed happier and more content when he was in that world. and he has seen and understood that way outside the united states. people look at him and they see not an american president of the kind they have seen in the past, who believes in institutions and alliances, and would want to work

having an argument, here is the same hill, she says, well, let’s somehow adapt to the new world, and john boltonere is no, with all his might. god, if there is a multipolar world , there will be a multipolar world, it’s terrible, so america has a mission, to prevent a multipolar world, to prevent uncertainty, and we must fight to maintain our dominance, it’s not just our dominance, no, it’s good for so to say, to the whole world, we bring this good, this is, in general, so to speak, some kind of return even to the munro doctrine, but only so to speak, regarding the whole world itself, but if we talk about specific steps, then... what we see today is that, in general, america in this region continues, so to speak, the most active actions directed both against us and against china. well, look, now, for example, indonesia has become practically our second main political, main economic partner, yes, our relations are very various contracts are developing, they bought a huge amount of our food this year, almost a million tons, that’s what’s happening, plus indonesia is getting ready. before the elect

there is concern in europe and nato if president trump was to win in 2024 and ambassador john bolton said it a few days ago that he might leave nato. he said on his campaign website they have to look at the relationship between the u.s. and nato. if that happens nato, europe, have to stand on their own two feet. there is some concern if that were to happen. right now the u.s. continuing to say you need to do more. this is on your borders, you have a bigger role to play. >> bill: meanwhile in the war the battle lines have barely moved in the past several months. ben, i want to introduce your podcast. this is your voice, okay? give this a listen. >> i have would say that i have seen more incredible resilience and strength in war than out of it. again, reminder that we'll focus on this podcast no matter how bad it is, you have to find a way through. >> bill: a way through that should be the title of your next book. introduce our audience. >> dana: downloading as we speak. >> what was amazing. something terrible happened to me and my team last year. ever since then i have been so inspire

in the white house, i know for a fact that john bolton, many times, had these discussions and argued, i think that we would probably be facing that possibility, and it would be a massive strategic failure internationally. it would be very hurtful for our european allies, and lastly, i would say it would be directly playing into putin's hands. and we have seen that donald trump is basically a puppet for that atrocious person, individual. >> but here's the thing. if you have foreign leaders, they are attachÉs making, pilgrimages and trying to speak with trump associates about what happens, do you take that to mean they think it's entirely possible that donald trump returns to the oval office? >> i think that what they are seeing is they are -- and this is a clear possibility. i would take that's a very serious sign of where we are going into 2024. and i will tell you this. i am in touch with some -- trump administration people who are horrified by the possibility of trump coming back, and they also fear it. they still will not take a stand and speak out, because they are concerned abou

here's the cbs news reporting that says john bolton, the former national security adviser in the trump administration, told cbs news on tuesday he had heard the former president, donald trump, use the phrase "burner phones" in discussions and the former president knew what it meant. like i don't know, these guys are pretty hip. i'm not clear on when you get a burner phone. i know what they are. talk about this concept of there maybe having been burner phones. >> well, this is something that we were aware of when i worked for special counsel mueller. liz cheney in her new book makes reference to this, and now we're talking about information from a personal phone. all of this is something that is the irony is quite deep for anyone who followed the 2016 election where donald trump was daily criticizing hillary clinton, his rival, for having used a server that was outside of the state department and having this information at home as opposed to a government system. but it is widely been known for a long time that donald trump and many other people within the white house, it's been reported

i mean, mattis leaves over cause, john bolton fought with donald trump because he wanted the talibanonald trump's foreign policy was corrupt not just when it came to russia but also turkey, could he look into it. general kelly and i know you worked on the arm services committee and the legacy of your father's work at the pentagon, i mean, that letter from the former secretaries of defense was put together by you and your husband and your father because you know these people and you were raised in their world. looking back do you think even putting aside the conduct around ending our tradition of a peaceful transfer of power that there were national security reasons not to have supported him? >> look, i think certainly there were times when he did and said things that i thought were fundamentally wrong, you know, and then i said so at the time when he stood next to vladimir putin in helsinki and said he trusted putin more than his own intelligence officers. so i think that, you know, if you list all of those people who worked for him, one of the things that we have to do over the cour

he said, "i don't give a [ bleep ] about nato" to john bolton. the nato alliance when he were president before. if he were to say that and be backed up by his cabinet members, that's it. the problem of collective defense is gone. there would, of course, be a reaction. you know, the senate would fight back. former military chiefs, there might be political resistance to it. really, all he has to do is say it. if people don't believe he'd go to war for them anymore, why wouldn't russia say, "okay, if that's how it is, then, you know, why should we defend poland" -- sorry, the u.s. isn't going to defend poland if we attack the airports being used to bring in ukrainian aid. it'd simply create the impression that collective defense is gone. by the way, that'd have an impact in taiwan and south korea, as well. >> this is, again, as anne said, david ignatius, it's not the language of democracy in decline. this is language announcing the death of democracy when you talk about terminating the constitution, executing generals that are insufficiently loyal,