john butler is a senior analyst at bloomberg intelligence and joins me now. thison $9.5 million -- billion dollar deal with on the handset business. now they are shifting strategy. what happened here? john: so, first of all, i think the person to blame for the in 2014 -- shery: steve ballmer. john: was steve ballmer. if you look at microsoft to that point, they really missed mobile. they just missed it. it was amazing. they bought gnocchi of national nolia handset business, i hate to call it aspiration, but they were going to build off the platform to build share in the mobile operating system. keep in mind, microsoft is a software company. the operating systems on these smartphones are soft-where -- software-based. really that is what they were after. they want to gain share in their operating system, and they never were able to achieve it. okia was a brand that was beginning to fade. in the smartphone market, it really is a brutal market when you think about what happened to motorola. nokia, now blackberry, they have all fallen from grace. microsoft had a h

. >> i am john butler. i am the president of american historians. to discuss historians. the theme is very appropriate, and part because the conferences on

john butler was drafted in the army shortly after graduating this -- researched the involvement of african-americansn the vietnam war. isaac camacho enlisted in the u.s. army in 1955. he served as an airborne jump instructor before coming in member of the newly formed 77 special forces group. he served two tours in vietnam. in 1963, he was captured and imprisoned and became the first g.i. to escape a viet cong pow camp. he earned a silver star and distinguished service cross for his service. can wallingford enter the army in 1969. he was sent to vietnam in 1970 as a sniper. a year later, he volunteered for the second tour as a military advisor with the military assistance plan vietnam. in april 19 72, he was captured and imprisoned in him bodio for more than 10 months before being released. he was awarded the silver star and the bronze star. he is currently the senior advisor to the executive secretary of the veteran board. your moderator will be dr. william adams. formal education was interrupted by three years of service in the u.s. army, including one year in the vietnam war. he credits his exper

that is john butler.umping after the announced its merging its technology services division with computer sciences corporation. ho one of -- hp one of several legacy tech companies trying to remain relevant. here is tom jobs, executive editor for global technology. take us through this. hewlett-packard first had to split recently in the last year. i know this is like a further spinoff of that. take us to the pattern. tom: they are systematically undoing the house that her predecessors built. they built it into this conglomeration. one-stop shop for all kinds of enterprise computing. pic's -- pc's here and higher in storage and other things like that. she came in and initially resisted the pressure to separate the pc business. we saw her eventually get into that. this is just one step further. slimming down hp, focusing on the high margin businesses, storage, servers, networking. david: first the pcs went off. and then she was left with a combination of -- explain it to us. tom: this is when i need help wi

. >> i am john butler. i am the president of american historians. we are here to discuss historians. the theme is very appropriate, and part because the conferences on leadership, which i am term,tly aware is a corny ok? but we live in a society that is in need of that quality, and many historians serve as officers in their universities, as officers in their colleges, and officers in their department. we -- when we were on graduate school, no one ever said anything about that subject. none of us were trained to be department chairs. no -- none of us were trained to be dealings -- deans. and none of us were trying to be historians. i mean, historians. [laughter] oh dear. pa so, we thought this would be an interesting panelnel that you would like because we have a number of distinguished presidents who are historians and most of us -- it is a little awkward because most of those are greeting each other because we know each other as historians. we have seen drew and earl and ed on panels, giving papers. we have read their books. here they are as presid

john butler is on leadership. as 2016 is the presidential election year. boy, is it a presidential election year. the program committee assembled a "roundtable" of scholars willing to talk about presidential leadership. but, about its failures rather than its successes. this seems particularly timely as the trump jugger knott rolling forward and yesterday the clinton and sanders campaigns engaged in a sparring match of who is the most unqualified candidates to be president. things are really getting interesting. the panel we have here today, all of these scholars have written about presidents who were bad in their own special way. although, it did occur to me on the train coming up that -- bad to whom maybe an important qualifier for this panel. what does it mean to be a bad president? what counts as bad and how do we define a bad president? specifically, who might have been the worst president ever? our panelists are david greenberg, are you full position now? >> oh, associate professor. just a little bit inside baseball, sorry guys. associate professor o

john butler is on leadership. as 2016 is the presidential election year. boy, is it a presidential election year. the program committee assembled a "roundtable" of scholars willing to talk about presidential leadership. but, about its failures rather than its successes. this seems particularly timely as the trump jugger knott rolling forward and yesterday the clinton and sanders campaigns engaged in a sparring match of who is the most unqualified candidates to be president. things are really getting interesting. the panel we have here today, all of these scholars have written about presidents who were bad in their own special way. although, it did occur t

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butlers. the series started in 2004 when the "times" looked at one of john kerry's staffers in a piece headlined "part butler and part buddy, aide keeps kerry running." a profile told the story of marvin nicholson jr., the man ready with an uncapped bottle of water whenever mr. kerry's throat runs dry. over a decade later the paper came out with an eye-opening profile of donald trump's butler. we should be more specific, anthony seconal resigned and now functions as a kind of inofficial historian at miralago. he told the paper he worked for trump nearly 30 years and shared how the staff came to view trump's choice of hats as a mood ring. if the cap was white, the boss was in a good mood. if it was red, it was best to stay away. the piece describes how over the decades senocal had grown close to the trump family. the man who understands mr. trump's sleeping patterns and how he likes his steak -- well done. that profile certainly shows you one side of the man. but if you were facebook friends with trump's butler you were treated did another side. that's now a problem for the presumptive nominee. w

butler university in indy. bill hemmer is live for us here in new york city. let's begin with john roberts also live in indianapolis. john, really today this is do or die for the ted cruz campaign. >> reporter: well, not if you listen to ted cruz or his closest campaign associates. they say he's going to continue this all the way through to the end. if you talk to a lot of establishment republicans, even they will he abobegin to acknowledge if ted cruz loses tonight, the path forward will be very difficult for him. if he loses indiana tonight, it won't be for lack of effort. he's certainly taken a page out of donald trump's playbook in terms of earned media. he's gotten on the air a whole lot. the confrontation yesterday with the trump supporter announcing carly fiorina as his running mate early. there was the endorsement of indiana governor mike pence. then that path that he had with kasich. this morning when donald trump accused ted's father rafael of being in league with harvey oswa oswald. >> i'm going to do something i haven't done for the entire campaign for those of y'all wh

taxes, paul ryan, the butler did it, and now trump seems to like to pull "people" magazine type stories into the fray. >> so it's a continuation of what john miller told you back in 1991, that there is no such thing as bad publicity, so trump now getting banged over the taxes, the butler comes out and says outrageous things about president obama, he thinks, you know what, a little diversion here is in order. >> what's weird is 25 years and all of a sudden this comes forward. there is no reason for it to come guaforward at all. >> there was no watergate breakup in your apartment where somebody could have -- >> this is watergate. >> people are watching, and some are transfixed by it, but some say, what's the relevance? who cares? >> who cares? he's running for president. it's all about the character of the president and whether he should be in the oval office being able to, you know, run this country, and is he going to still be punking us when he's president? >> let's go back to what happened. it's 1991, you're at "people" magazine, he's got some domestic discord. you call trump's office, and what happens? >> i called his office and asked t

butler did it. now trump seems to like to pull "people" magazine type stories into the array. >> in other words, a continuation. here's your thought. it's a continuation of what john miller told you back in 1991, that there's no such thing as bad publicity, so trump now getting banged over the taxes, the butler comes out and says outrageous thing wts president obama, he figures a little diverse is in order? >> yeah, but what's so weird is 25 years. all of a sudden this comeses for. there's no reason for it this come forward. >> there's not been some watergate break-in in your apartment -- >> this is watergate going on right now. >> there are some watching and i think everybody's transfixed but some who say, what's the relevance? who cares? >> who cares? he's running for president. it's all about the character of a president. and whether he should be in the oval office, being able to run this country and is he going to still be punking us when he's president? >> let's go back to what happened. it's 1991, you're at "people" magazine, he's got domestic discord. you call trump's office and what happens? >> i called his office and asked to speak with trump about the ta

butler did it. now, trump seems to like to pull "people" magazine-type stories into the fray. >> so in other words, a continuation -- here's your thought. it's a continuation of what john miller told you back in 1991, that there's no such thing as bad publicity. so trump now getting banged over the taxes, the butler comes out and says outrageous things about president obama, he thinks, you know what, a little diversion here is in order. >> yeah, but what's so weird, 25 years. and all of a sudden this comes forward. there's no reason for it to have come forward, at all. >> there's not been some watergate break-in at your apartment, where someone could have -- >> this is watergate going on right now, michael. >> all right. that's sue carswell, the "people" magazine reporter who was on the other end of the phone with that john miller. let's bring in julian zelinger to take a look at all of this. good to see you. so, let's begin with this audio tape. and who may have leaked it and why. what do you make of all of this, especially after hearing from sue carswell? >> well, it's really a minor scandal compared to all the other issues surrounding donald trump, from the statemen

butler did it. now trump seems to like to pull "people" magazine-type stories into the fray. >> so in other words, a continuation. here's your thought. it's a continuation of what john told you back in 1991, that there's no such thing as bad publicity. so trump now getting banged over the taxes, the butler comes out and says outrageous things about president obama, he figures, you know what, a little diversion here is in order? >> yeah, but what's so weird, 25 years! and all of a sudden this comes forward. there's no reason for it to have come forward, at all. >> there's not been some watergate break-in at your apartment -- >> this is watergate going on right now, michael. >> oh, my goodness. sue carswell, she was with "people" magazine at the time that she did those recordings. i want to bring in now larry sabato, director of the university of virginia's center for politics. oh, my gosh, larry, where do we begin on this one? this is just wacky. so she's asked about whether this is kind of, you know, deflection. you know, could it be? she says, you've got taxes, you've got all these other matters that perhaps he doesn't want to address and leaking the tapes might ma

butler did it. >> in other words, a continuation -- here's your thought, it's a continuation of what john miller told you back in 1991, that there's no such thing as bad publicity. >> i got call back from a spokesperson who said he was john miller and i said you sound just like trump. he said, you know, i just come from places. he wasn't very specific. fred, what role do you think these land mines or hiccups play in the believe will be the big donors' hesitancy to back trump? >> i got to admit, it's a fun story. i saw the segment myself this morning and it's something you want to watch but it's tabloid stuff. it doesn't matter. i don't think anybody really cares. i think the big story of today, which will play into the fund-raising, is the fact that trump has been able to bring the party together, i think paul ryan is on his way to be supportive. you heard leaders in the senate and house and elsewhere come out and support him. he's well on his way to having a unified party and it's the first critical step toward raising the funds he needs. >> i have to push back on that. you say that was 20 years ago

butler university in indy. bill hemmer is live for us here in new york city. let's begin with johno live in indianapolis. john, really today this is do or die for the ted cruz campaign. >> reporter: well, not if you listen to ted cruz or his closest campaign associates. they say he's going to continue this all

yesterday that trump's former long time butler called for the killing of the president of the united states. we begin with that audio from 1991. the man calls himself john miller. the washington post reports he is donald trump. let's listen. >> what's your name again? >> john miller. >> you work with donald? >> that's correct. >> he really decided that he wasn't, he didn't want to make my commitment. he didn't want to make a commitment. he thought it was too soon. he's coming out of marriage. he's somebody with a lot of o options. he gets called by everybody. he's living with marla and has three other girlfriends. i'm sort of new here. >> what is your position? >> i'm handling p.r. because he gets so much of it. >> on the today show he denied the man was not him. >> it was not me on the phone. it doesn't sound like me. it was not me on phone. >> robert costas is a national reporter for the washington post. david corning is with mother jones and joy reid is here. joy, you're laughing already. let's talk about this. i guess we can assume, they haven't broken the case here at msnbc but most people say that sounds like donald trump. is this the kind of thin

and also i would like to ask you john mccaine support you, and how much does the military in any way help the families who are left behind? host: jeremy butlerguest: yeah. for the call and for raising that important issue. right. exactly it's a variety of our service veterans that don't live within close access to va hospitals. that is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed. you're spot on with your comment. it's our imes, veterans that are in rural areas that have the most difficulty access for care. that is something that needs to be addressed. your call. i'm sorry. i believe the last question was about -- families of veterans >> families of veterans. absolutely. overlooked n often area. i'm glad that was raised. veteran, ocus on the him or herself. and what we forget is that a eployment to a veteran affects many more people beyond just that veteran. it's the families that are left for d that are caring children, holding down the jobs, and just are worried constantly no idea what's going on with that service member. imperative that we remember it's not just the veterans but it's their families well. host: recently in the "wall stre

butler casually called for the killing of the president of the united states. we begin with that newly uncovered audio from 1991. the man in it calls himself john miller. "the washington post" reports that he is druonald trump. let's listen. >> what's your name again? >> john miller. >> and you work with donald trump? >> that's correct. >> he really decided that he wasn't -- you know, he didn't want to make any commitment. he didn't want to make a commitment. he really thought it was just too soon. he's coming out of a, you know, a marriage that -- and he's starting to do tremendously well. he's somebody that has a lot of options. and frankly, you know, he gets called by everybody. he gets called by everybody in the book, in terms of women. he's living with marla and he's got three other girls. i'm sort of new here. >> what is your position? >> well, i'm sort of handling pr, because he gets so much of it. >> well, this morning on the "today" show, trump denied the man on the audio was him. >> it was not me on the phone. and it doesn't sound like me on the phone, i will tell you that. and it was not me on the phone. >> robert costa is that national repo

spokesperson for himself named john miller so that he could talk to reporters about his love life and his business dealings. now trump has denied those allegations, as well as a former butlers coming out and arguing that president obama should be taken out and shot like an enemy. political analysts say that this could hurt trump in the general election not just with voters but with donors, something he didn't have to worry about in the primaries. >> kristin holmes, thank you. >>> donald trump is trying to unify the party, bring the gop establishment into his fold. rally around and behind him. now of course this bizarre tape we just told you about could create problems for him. >> i can tell you this. >> i can tell you this. >> you understand that. >> you understand that. >> he's probably doing as well as anybody. >> i know politics as well as anybody. >> i hold up the bible as well as anybody. >> so lot of people looking at this wondering could it be that donald trump's worst enemy may just be donald trump of years past? cnn's senior investigative correspondent drew griffin takes a closer look here for us. >> reporter: if this is not donald trump on these tapes, then an au

john and peter were involved with what happened to the man that was whatever you want to call it they were focused on the science and medicine around that and node interested in what heaped mr. butler that of those an interesting change we knew the therapy say was on multi discharges to at least 5 discharges but southwesterly suddenly we have butler and only 3 discharges and a cardiac ari was not on methamphetamines he was a drunk guy on a bus so here's the next one. >> in dispute on any thought or anything his arm in the air and said i'm going to tasers you. >> we heard on the other recording you can hear the words conversation battery and then you hear multiply screams 339. >> and when i went out there and went around stanley and tried to get over they they wouldn't let us to the curve to him and threatened to tasers and throw us in jail arne wife. >> okay 33 stanley harlan breaks any heart he takes his views hard here you see that all played out on video. >> 39 in route area williams 38 minutes after. >> within a minute or a minute and a half you'll see his respirations and this poor young man is dying. >> white male semiconscious semi unresponsive. >> and was all stood there an

john and peter were involved with what happened to the man that was whatever you want to call it they were focused on the science and medicine around that and node interested in what heaped mr. butler that of those an interesting change we knew the therapy say was on multi discharges to at least 5 discharges but southwesterly suddenly we have butler and only 3 discharges and a cardiac ari was not on methamphetamines he was a drunk guy on a bus so here's the next one. >> in dispute on any thought or anything his arm in the air and said i'm going to tasers you. >> we heard on the other recording you can hear the words conversation battery and then you hear multiply screams 339. >> and when i went out there and went around stanley and tried to get over they they wouldn't let us to the curve to him and threatened to tasers and throw us in jail arne wife. >> okay 33 stanley harlan breaks any heart he takes his views hard here you see that all played out on video. >> 39 in route area williams 38 minutes after. >> within a minute or a minute and a half you'll see his respirations and this poor young man is dying. >> white male semiconscious semi unresponsive. >> and was all stood there an