can you tell me a little about your musical influences. >> a particular piece about john coltrane was he reached out to asia and his global vision. as an asian american growing up and coming up in this country seeking some recognition, that was a very meaningful, making that kind of contribution. i really owe a debt to john coltrane for recognizing my culture and uplifting it as part of the music as well. >> i know that your family history is really rich and complex in terms of illustrating how the chinese has occurred over the last two centuries. it could talk about that? >> it began in the 1870's, when my great grandfather, instead of coming with everybody else to the united states to build a railroad, he went off the coast of madagascar are. -- madagascar are. he met a woman there who is creel, african-american, french, and chinese. they married, and they had family, and i am the product of that. growing up here in the bay area, we have some influences because it is the gateway for emigration. from many countries. you walk down the street, you are participating in that mix. in my m

john coltrane, he migrated at 17 from north carolina to philadelphia where believe it or not, he got his first alto sax. where would jazz be if he had not migrated and part of the great migration and got the opportunity to go to the ornstein school of music in philadelphia. and to practice so much that he actually -- that people in his apartment building in philadelphia complained -- the nerve of complaining because john coltrane -- the man in 12c -- the man in 12c he's playing at all hours of the night. i bet you anything that all those people who deny up and down to this day that they complained about john coltrane playing his alto sax. he played so much that he had to turn to a minister who gave him the keys of the church where he could play to his heart's content. and one of the unknown things about this migration or unrecognized thing is that each stream is a beautiful translation of the southern state and culture from which it derives. in other words, the migration from texas to louisiana -- those people are very different. the culture is different. i had to learn to eat all ki

it turned out that john coltrane always had a special feeling fos felonious mont. they came from the same stream. peoplee people were the same people. this is a permutation that showo you how different the african-american experience isax even within our own country. everything comes from the southr one thing i had to discover,a bg food became a big issue. in chicago i was on the bus wite some seniors heading to a riverboat casino. it's a big thing and the world was entering. someone broke out a delicacy and that there is up for.as upr i'm wondering what this says. they haven't brought up from mississippi straight and director of the source. .as the good stuff. stuff it was hard headcheese. a few hands. pickled eggs. i had never heard of it before. never heard of it.the gratio we could talk about grits.n't what i'm saying is that the isth culture,e the people carry therd culture with them. they transplanted the south with them when they went. in some ways they were we embassadors. it's a beautiful thing that thel th did.s the culture, american culture and urban nor

i discovered that some of the research and eternal john coltrane always a special feeling why? because they could come from the same stream. they're people were the same people and this shows how different the african-american experience is even within our own country everyone comes from the south and thinks it will be different. one of the things i had to discover was food became a big issue. in chicago i was exposed to and on the bus heading to with some seniors to a riverboat casino, it's a big thing for seniors in the world i was entering, and someone broke out a delicacy that everyone -- there was an uproar on the bus and i was wondering what is this thing? it had been dropped from mississippi derived from the source, it was the good stuff, it was hoghead sea. [laughter] >> pickled eggs? >> i had never heard of it before. never heard of it. the migration stream i was in we can't talk about grits but we were not exposed to that. people carried the culture with them. a transplanted the south where they went. they were ambassadors to the south and it's a beautiful thing they

go out and interview people so it turns out that miles davis and polonius monkeys to fight over john coltrane, and it turns out that john kohl train always had a special feeling for polonius monk. their people were the same people and this is a permutation that shows me how different the african-american experience is even within our own country. one thing i had to discover i had not heard of was food became a big issue. in chicago, i was exposed to i was on the bus heading with some seniors to a riverboat casino. it is a big day for seniors. and someone broke out a delicacy that everyone-- there was uproar on the bus and i was wondering what is this thing? it had been brought up from mississippi, direct from the source. it was the good stuff. it was hot headcheese. [laughter] >> with pickled eggs? [laughter] >> i'd never heard of it because the migration stream, we could talk about grits but we weren't exposed to that. what i'm saying is the culture, the people carried the culture with them. they transplanted the cells with them where they went. in some ways they went back to the south and i

[applause] >> so -- am a john coltrane fan. >> me too. >> i am. so i want to go back my question which i want you to answer directly. what would be good hip hop? >> i could -- we could spend the rest of the panel listing good hip hop. >> what would be good hip hop since you're saying it's -- >> good hip hop music is like reasonable doubt by jay-z. it's ready to die by biggie schmaltz. now, is the content and the message that's involved in some of that great music poison, yeah, it is. if you try to live your life the way jay-z instructs >> good afternoon. good afternoon. we're going to >> midafternoon we began our panel with ingrid betancourt "even silence has an end" her bs of captivity in the colombian junk l. .. when she was attempting to go to an area of the country that was controlled by the guerrilla forces, the farc, she was apprehended. the book is a memoir of that experience mid it is a delight to have a conversation about you with it. could you start by telling us about that fateful day? february 22, 2002? >> guest: first i want to thank

[applause] >> so -- am a john coltrane fan. >> me too. >> i am. so i want to go back my question which i want you to answer directly. what would be good hip hop? >> i could -- we could spend the rest of the panel listing good hip hop. >> what would be good hip hop since you're saying it's -- >> good hip hop music is like reasonable doubt by jay-z. it's ready to die by biggie schmaltz. now, is the content and the message that's involved in some of that great music poison, yeah, it is. if you try to liv