obstruction of justice, and i think they had decided he was going to be the sacrificial lamb. >> john deanway over his head. and then when he realized this ship is going down, he jumped. >> this morning, without the president's approval, dean issued a statement in which, among other things, he declared some may hope or think i will become a scapegoat in the watergate case. anyone who believes this, dean added, does not know me, know the true facts, nor understand our system of justice. >> do you have information implicating president nixon in a cover-up? >> i have no comment this morning. i'm sorry. >> we started having secret conversations with john dean. he was disclosing this sprawling conspiracy, to put it mildly. >> when i broke rank and started dealing with the prosecutors in early april, i had the naive belief that, by breaking rank, they would do likewise. >> john dean kept upping the ante. i want immunity. okay, i'll tell you this. as we were leaving, i just remember this. he said, john has something to tell you. and dean told us that this same group had broken into the office of

and john dean's job was to see to that. but you see, john dean was at risk of prosecution himself so he cast his lot with the people at the committee to reelect. nt engaged in the conduct over and above just obstruction of justice. he rehearsed jeb magruder for his perjured testimony before two grand juries. he learned and then pass along to defense counsel for prosecutions analysis and concept of where they were going come which is totally improper. he destroyed evidence taken from howard hunts safe, and he is the only person in watergate who embezzled money. john dean embezzled campaign funds. it took $4000 of campaign funds to fund his honeymoon. and you have this cover-up, and the cover-up collapse of the we are not really good at -- a cover-up collapses and john dean's running it so he knows, and he's the first to run to the prosecutor. and he says look, i can give you magruder and mitchell at the career prosecutors, the first team says, we've got of them, we don't need you. .. and he says a couple paragraphs later in

john dean's job was to sort through this. dean was at risk of prosecution himself. to be engaged in criminal conduct over and above obstruction of the justice, he rehearsed mcgruder for his testimony before to grand jury's. he learned and then passed along to defense counsel the prosecution's analysis and concept of where they were going which is totally unfair. he's the only person in watergate who embezzled money. john dean embezzled campaign funds. he took $4000 of campaign funds to fund his honeymoon. then you have this cover-up and the cover-up collapses and john dean is running it so he knows and he's the first to run to the prosecutors and he says look, i can give you mcgruder and mitchell. the career prosecutors, the first team said we got them. we don't need you. he discusses it with his lawyer and he does two things. one, he takes documents that he possessed as the president's lawyer, having nothing to do with watergate and shared them with the prosecutors as kind of a down payment on his immunity. now they they wouldn't give him immunity but they took wha

. >> well, in his testimony, devastating testimony, former white house council john dean linked the watergate break-in to the nixon white house. but dean had previously been a loyal soldier to the president. you can hear it in the tapes. just five days before, he famously warned nixon there was a cancer growing in the presidency in '73. he was anything but doom and gloom with the president. in fact, he said that nixon would beat the watergate wrap. here he is saying that. >> and douglas, the president >> and douglas, the president nixon all along knew about the watergate cover-up. he was leading it. >> well, that's right. in fact, dean had 35 conversations with nixon about watergate cover-up-related issues. but that's a tricky moment you just played, chris. because you see dean as having to be the lawyer, if you like, as richard nixon, at the same time he's doing investigations, he's finding a lot of unsavory things going on. and nixon wanted a d-report to kind of pull it all together. and as we know, dean decides not to cooperate with nixon, but to cooperate with the watergate committee. >>

john dean, professional snatch, sitting right behind them on the plane and recorded every word, rushed to rolling stone magazine, a magazine known for its probity and reporting. [laughter] , and within hours that part of his career was over. he was fired or forced out immediately and disgrace. what you do not know is that he lived for 32 more years. the new york times, the ultimate ultimate arbiter of who gets the scarlet letter and who does not, headlined his obituary this way, secretary felled by racial remark dies at 98. right? everything he had done otherwise in his life was irrelevant. what mattered was that he had told the racial joke 32 years ago. that -- he might his well have had it tattooed on his head. he told that racial joke. todd akin in missouri. you know, he gets the scarlet are, they can get the scarlet us. the awkward remark about rape and abortion. wonderful human being, six kids that love him to death, three sons in the marines, but that did not matter because he had made this awkward comment. by the end of that day he was aa national laughingstock. the neo- puritan

clinton will paint sullivan as some kind of john dean rogue who changed the markings before they goto her. bill: does that work based on your logic? >> their nuclear strategy worked for them for the past 20 years. whether it works this time i don't know. i think they consistently underestimated their amain adversaries. i think his girl valerie jarett has been committed to removing mrs. clinton from this race. >> reporter: you just heard her rationale. does that logic fly for you? >> here is my problem. i understand that the clintons will certainly distance themselves from any alleged wrongdoing tore wrongdoers. i also understand that secretary clinton herself is going to say it wasn't classified at the time. i didn't not was classified, i shouldn't be held to a standard i didn't understand when reasonable people might differ on the classification. but i'm hard pressed to see that as fighting back. i don't think the clintons can do much to fight back. i think they are fighting back against the republicans and seeking to use incendiary rhetoric to deflect attention from the women's iss

and john dean in his biography of harding makes the point that harding's protestations of inadequacy that -- of humbleness is not necessarily an act, but that harding from the very beginnings, he's a very sharp guy. his academic career is good. he learns things very quickly. he's giving speeches at the age of four. and so, he's good early and he knows that people sometimes get jealous of people who are good. sibley: but wouldn't you also agree though that he didn't necessarily want to be president, did he? pietrusza: i don't think so and certainly not with the carrie phillips thing hanging over his head in 1920. sibley: yes. he enjoyed being in the senate and it was his friends wanted him to be -- they loved him and they he was popular but he really didn't but it just seemed like over time increasingly there was urgings on him and also the situation as i understand it back in ohio didn't look good for him to be reelected. pietrusza: my theory is that and in the big, long letter which he sends to carrie phillips regarding the blackmail. swain: how did she try to blackmail him? pietrus

bush, john mccain, howard dean, john edwards, barack obama -- they all did it and it is one thing toit as a candidate and another thing altogether to do it as president. in 2009 a few months after his inauguration president obama made history by becoming the first sitting president to ever appear on a late night talk show as a guest on "the tonight show" with jay leno. >> i ran for president because i thought we needed big changes. i do think in washington it's a little bit like "american idol" except everybody is simon cowell. >> wow. wow. that's rough. that's rough. >> now don't think of president obama, though, as just a one-night talk show stand-up. as president he has pushed the boundaries of conventional vanilla media and pursued an aggressively unconventional relationship with new media forums. one might argue that no one has ever done it quite like this before. >> i have no know, what is it like to be the last black president? >> seriously? what's it like for this to be the last time you ever talk to a president? >> in a fractured media universe, to be heard candidates must g

to discuss this extraordinary moment, democratic -- former democratic chair governor dean and republican strategist johning for the house speaker. howard dean, you you know joe biden. a lot of us have covered him for years, for decades. this was unvarnished. this was about as honest and transparent a political interview i've ever seen. >> i agree. it's an extraordinary, very emotional moment for everybody, whether you think joe biden should or should not run. this is an extraordinary moment. it's a very emotional moment for all of us, i think. >> and, john ferry, i don't think that he would be looking at this as seriously as i'm told he is if it weren't a wide open race, an unexpectedly wide open race. your take on that? >> well, i agree with you, andrea. the thing about this interview was obviously stephen colbert wants him to run. i think a lot of democrats want him to run because he is such an emotional deep guy who says it the way he sees it, unlike some of the other candidates out there. and i think that because joe biden, this is kind of emotional pull towards joe biden, i think there's going to b

and you look at howard dean or john kerry and mitt romney. this is the season for this, one., more importantly, secretary clinton last week took responsibility for her part in this. she said she was sorry. people are seeing what these e-mails are, the more they come out, how benign they are. we're learning she likes skim milk in her tea and tells aides to pack warm socks. and three, and it's really underreported, but last week, the justice department made a legal filing about this and they said everything that was done here was proper and legal and including the fact that every government employee gets to make a decision about what is work related e-mail and personal e-mail -- >> you're not saying this e-mail thing is a good thing for her? >> oh, no, no, i'm saying we're going to take it off the table because the justice department said -- >> it's not off the table. >> hold on. can i just say something here? the deletion of the e-mail was appropriate. >> there's five months of -- >> off the table. >> david, did you hear today that there's five months -- >> secondly, once that

still was one route for him and that was the john kerry route, where that we had seen in 2003 at this very time the democratic race where someone like howard dean had just shot up into the polls and john kerry was in the low single digits, he basically went all that way up until about two or three weeks before the iowa caucuses. howard dean came crashing down to earth. dick gephardt and howard dean warred and that allowed someone like john kerry to benefit from all that, the big difference was, of course in that 2003/2004 contest, john kerry you was a war here rocker the democrats thought was going to be a war election. this is something very different. but really interesting dynamic going on here, a race often the republican governors with results and scott walker is one of them. jeb bush, what is mattering more now is style in these debates. scott walker's performance in the last two debates has more to say -- is probably to blame for his poll position and money situation than anything else, despite all the conservative accomplishments that he h -- had. >> a sad statement on our political attention now that we are rating style, perhaps, on bo

. >> howard dean is a former governor of vermont and dnc chairman, john feery is a republican strategist. to both of you we appreciate you being with us. we want to start with you, governor dean, because on this very show a few days ago, my colleague thomas roberts asked you about the e-mail controversy and in your words you said it was hocus pocus, nonsense, skillful manipulation by the republican party here. now that she's apologizing, would you still use those words? >> absolutely. this is a kabuki. when the media wants to humble you, they do. she was humbled and she did the right thing. but this is not about the e-mail server. there's no there there. this is about whether hillary clinton is going to show herself to the public as someone who's willing to be humble in front of them, and that was the whole gig and the media would like to put themselves in the king maker position, which they have done. i think there's nothing to this. i never have thought that. >> so are you just saying she was apologizing to appease the media maybe, some of her supporters who may be worried? >> this is

in 2004, there was howard dean running against john kerry. we have this history. take away from what bernie sanders is doing, but i do think it's early to see how sustainable this is and how the clinton campaign reacts. >> annie, you eve been out on the road. do those analogies hold up? >> i think it's really hard to know. i mean, quite frankly, does everything everybody has said so far this year has been wrong. and one of the critical things is when you talk to people and i spent a lot of people talking to people in new hampshire, you say, what is going on with the clin tom campaign? there was a cbs poll earlier this week that suggested she's 22 points down in new hampshire. i've been asking people why? how is this happening? new hampshire? a place that really for all of this discussion of bradley and previous campaigns, new hampshire is supposed to be a very, very friendly place for her. that was always supposed to be the way that it was. and the answer that i'm getting is somewhat alarming for clinton's campaign, which is that -- and i know you discussed it bef

a guy like john boehner, he could have handled the possibility. host: thanks for the call, dean. in north carolina. whoever gets that election will have to win over 218 colleagues. again, speaker john boehner announcing today that he would not be ending just the speaker of the house, but also resigning in the seat in congress. let us take a look back at his statement earlier today. speaker john boehner: my oh, my what a wonderful day. i used to sing that on my way to work in the morning. less costly, more accountable government. over the last five years, our majority has advanced conservative reforms that will help our children and their children. we're now on track to cut government spending by $2.1 trillion over the next 10 years. we made the first real entitlement reform in nearly two decades. and we protected 99% of the american people from an increase in our taxes. we've done all this with a democrat in the white house. so i'm proud of what we've accomplished. but more than anything, my first job as speaker is to protect the institution. a lot of you now know that my plan was

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at this point in 2004 howard dean was way ahead. john kerry was written off.usly that changed profoundly. i think the real question here is, number one, does joe biden enter the race because you have a whole new race post biden. alex characterized the difference that would be there and why the clinton campaign probably doesn't want that race. so that's the first thing. and the second thing is, that hillary clinton is going to have to deal over time with this need to inspire people. i really believe that. and i actually think what we need to see back here democrats who are for hillary clinton need to see back here is the hillary clinton of pennsylvania and ohio in 2008, when she could really animate people on the stump. >> and michael steele, who is going to inspire republicans? >> well, that's a good question. i think a lot of folks are struggling with that question as well, andrea. right now donald trump is the guy. he's sucking the air out of the room. he's moving the conversation in his direction. this upcoming debate at the reagan library is going to be, i

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. >>> former state department supervisor, now the dean of john hopkins school of studies.g with us. we've been talking about america, russia, what's your view from the inside? what do you need to reach success? >> what we need the bombardment inside syria. we need protection and no fly zone. >> do you need american troops on the ground to help you? >> we fought the invasion and extremi extremism. >> president putin and president obama laid out different visions this week what worries you and gives you hope? >> unfortunately, we have direction invasion incites. >> unforchau natalie, that's a terrible view. the russian invasion will demolish the process. >> how? >> we have now the russians helping the regime in order to kill more civilians and more syrians. we cannot continue a more political process why we are facing death inside syria. we don't think that the -- the extreme fighters. >> do you have a different view of that with the russians in syria? >> it's correct. >> they're filling a vacuum that's been left by the west that's not been engaged in the process. the most i

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history tells us 2003, howard dean was ahead for a while. 2007 you saw john mccain rise in december. you saw barack obama do well in iowa in december and january. i think we have a while to go before we can look at these polls and say this means so and so can win. i'm kind of -- i sort of view -- i'm still skeptical, bernie sanders, donald trump, ben carson are unlikely nominees for these parties, i think later on, people who may be down in the polls like jeb bush or rubio can still come back. >> it's still early, i mean, four years ago, it was rick perry in september, herman cane in october. newt gingrich in december and then mitt romney wins, we're still early in this process, we have another debate to go. the iowa caucus doesn't start until february. we have a long way to go with all the debates and infighting we're going to have. michelle, what do you think? >> absolutely agree, it may feel like we've been doing this forever for political obsessives, most of america just could not be less interested in this. when everybody hunkers down come january and starts paying attention to

john bo bolton? >> looking forward to that. 60 years after the death of james dean we are still looking into what happenedthat killed him. the wreck was sold and passed on to a man who shipped it all over the country to promote highway safety. in 1960 going from los angeles to miami it disappeared from a locked truck or maybe a shipping container. tips have come in over the years about the location of the car but there is a new break. brian is live with details. your museum "outnumbereout a $1 reward for the car and what did you find? >> reporter: over the several years, we have had story after story. the car is buried in a swamp. mounted on some rich guy's wall as art. or it is in japan. all kind of stuff. >> but you have a fairly credible report it may be what? hidden in a building or warehouse in washington state? >> we were on an episode of lost history last fall and hundreds of phone calls came in and most were not worth our while but one phone call in particular stood out with the story sounding too good to be true. it sounded like the scripted fictional involve. a guy was 60 years old and saw his d

john kerry then. and how could he fall so far behind howard dean? and what a catastrophe his campaign was. and of course, he ended up as the nominee. and so people should be patient. there are a lot of candidates in the field. there's a lot of debates to come. i don't think this is a make or break for any one specific person. >> and amy, my question about carly fiorina, she's not backing away from trump. she said she expects to be more vocal in attacking donald trump. should she go after him, or is this not a smart strategy? should she just be doing what she's been doing all along, that has steadily moved heifer up the polls? >> well, she has said that she does intend to go after his business record. and donald trump has certainly said he intends to go after her. clearly she has to stand her ground, and she does need to score some points. i wouldn't be surprised if it cnn brings up right away at the top of the debate donald trump's appearance about carly fiorina and even possibly ask donald trump to apologize to ms. fiorina right there on stage. that's a small prediction. you can put your

dean rusk. and the ambassador of peru. next pope john paul the second surfer 1970 until his death in 2005. the second longest-serving pope in modern history. next, american history tv looks back to 1979 when the pope traveled to new york city and address the unit -- the u.n. general assembly. this 40 minute program includes extensive scenes of the vote arriving at the u.n. and later, grading dignitaries in the receiving line. [applause] [applause] [indistinct conversations] [applause] [indistinct conversations] [applause] [applause] >> it is a great honor and a privilege for me to welcome you on behalf of all the general assembly of the united nations. since you took the position of the head of the catholic church, you have inspired all of us with a new hope and a sense of reassurance for the world. we recall with fond memories the visit of your red assessor, his vi inss pope paul 1965, when he joined with us here in the sense of global aspiration to reissue the historic all of never again wore, war never again. today, 13 years later, we have renewed to yourled by attending spiritual respo

dean: i used to think when i was at the l.a. times, we had a discussion about whether we should have a public editor. the late john carroll and i decided not to. i have to say i think having a public editor is a great thing. i'm surprised i feel that way. [applause] dean: i think it is a great thing for budget reasons. first off, i think it gives people -- even though in the digital era, many people can criticize. it is not hard to get to us. it does give people a sense that the institution is listening even though i have no power over her. she can criticize me and she often does. she -- i think people feel like there is some place they can go in the institution. i think she is often right when she beats us up. i think even when she is wrong, she is reasonable and fair. it is probably not a bad idea for newspaper editors to understand what it is like to be on the other end of criticism and question even though there are times when i would like to sort of lock her in her office and unplug her computer, in the long run, it is good -- i'm speaking of margaret largely because she has been editor in my time -- it is a

dean calling you? >> no. just in my ear. >> john corzine. >> you realize the market is down, right? that's red.apple, last i looked was up. neil: we're just hearing by the way a new version of that condescending remark. i can't have eyes everywhere. >> it is down again. neil: see that? just as ralph -- ralph, oh look, apple is down just like i said it was. >> probably put the graphic up to -- neil: for all we know, apple could be up. you get the drill here. what is the first period, dagen going into this. five days prior, 30 days prior the stock was in a swoon. that is rarely happening ahead after big announcement. >> rarely happens but this announcement was expected to be -- pretty much. neil: is this apple tv and siri? do you like siri? >> no, i hate siri. i never talk to siri. a apple tv is interesting because they're opening up to games and other apps. neil: everyone does. what about netflix? >> this is like, to manage all of -- neil: siri yapping away on this thing like other things. i don't know, where are the big bells and big whistles? is that the actual size keyboard he is standing nex

think howard dean, the person with the momentum in 2003. johnup beating him in the 2004 primary season. also think a lot of enthusiasm around bill bradley in 1999. al gore won the nomination. and even at this point in 2007 it was hillary clinton who was lapping barack obama and john edwards and ultimately barack obama won so they're taking the long game, of course. the last two or three months very difficult for the clinton campaign with the e-mail story an the stories dominated by the falling poll numbers as we were just discussing. >> within thing that hillary clinton hasn't been is underdog. maybe sometimes you need that in the campaign to get people rooting for you again. mark murray, great to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >>> let's take a look at how you're responding to the bing pulse question. we're asking you if you think any gop candidate can overtake donald trump. 57% of you think, yes. 43% of you say, no. let's keep this conversation going. head over to pulse.msnbc.com. (clicking noise) (ding) read text. (siri voice) adam, i'm sor

john mccain and john kerry did something in '04 and 08 and were the candidates who won without spending the most money. romney outspent mccain and dean outspent kerry. how likely to see it this time? >> the super pacs have much more money than the candidates. you look at the time in new hampshire and iowa 70% is super pacs. the one thing i will say about super pacs to add on is beyond the fact they are controlling a message outside of the campaign but they cannot control the candidate. you can have all of the money in the world but if your candidate is not good it don't matter how much money you have. scott walker is a good example of this. if you are the scott walker super pac you are watching a candidate who is having a little trouble. there is not a darn thing the super pac can do to make up for that deficit. >> i promise we will talk take five minutes for the next question. >> i am from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. i am reading the making of a president 1968 and what is shocking is how 1968 seems to look like today. race riots in the street, ongoing war on terror which like vietnam doesn't seem to be ending, a country with a lot of

john mccain and john kerry did something in '04 and 08 and were the candidates who won without spending the most money. romney outspent mccain and dean outspent kerry. how likely to see it this time? >> the super pacs have much more money than the candidates. you look at the time in new hampshire and iowa 70% is super pacs. the one thing i will say about super pacs to add on is beyond the fact they are controlling a message outside of the campaign but they cannot control the candidate. you can have all of the money in the world but if your candidate is not good it don't matter how much money you have. scott walker is a good example of this. if you are the scott walker super pac you are watching a candidate who is having a little trouble. there is not a darn thing the super pac can do to make up for that deficit. >> i promise we will talk take five minutes for the next question. >> i am from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. i am reading the making of a president 1968 and what is shocking is how 1968 seems to look like today. race riots in the street, ongoing war on terror which like vietnam doesn't seem to be ending, a country with a lot of

dean martin. >> exactly. >> but i will say as good looking as john sexy stamos is, rob low, giving him a serious run for hisheir early 50's, and so when i come back some of the interviews i have i have advice for dudes that are hitting in the the 45 to 55 age range. >> that is me. >> they both talk about stuff you you can do. >> all right. >> yes. >> you are having fun in l.a. >> that is awesome. >> lets get to traffic because we have some developing traffic issues with dave warren. we have a lot of issues. here's another one. crash at harbison after avenue that we have all lanes blocked there and it looks like the inner portion of the roosevelt portion is blocked. this is southbound. it looks like route one southbound. avoid that a area we have other issues we have been watching this morning, this is a lawrence township here we will go from roosevelt boulevard to lawrence township where it goes from 95 to 295, that ramp is closed. going to hamilton train station you have to take 95 south, princeton pike, get back on to 295. also, there is a water main issue here, main street church street at chester avenue

sort of comparing it to 2013 and 2004 when democrats were flirting with howard dean and all these other democrats and john kerry was sort of the tortoise hanging around, hanging around. rubio could end up being the compromise, the ones that people want the outsider, a new face and the establishment says but he's kind of establishmenty. if you're concerned that jeb bush doesn't have what it takes to beat hillary you're comfortable with rubio and if you want an outsider like carson or fiorina you might find yourself comfortable with rubio, that to me was the most interesting part of the poll. >> big earthquake of friday, speaker boehner saying he's going to leave congress at the end of october. do you have a big meta theory of everything that explains what happened there and what we're seeing in the republican power right now. >> >> what's powering trump and carson is what basically powered boehner out of this, so i think -- the question is -- did essentially through himself on the grenade, is it going to calm the waters for a water, buy the establishment time, mcconnell and boehner and buy sort of the esta

frontrunners were howard dean and dick gephardt who beat each other up with a furious airwaves campaign against each other. as a result, they actually knocked each other out and left the way for john kerry. and john edwards. but i'm not sure it applies to donald trump. i mean, he does swing back. it's interesting that bush is going after this. i think he figures he can't just be the 98-pound weakling who gets the sand kicked in his face again and again. he has to do something. i'm not sure it's going to help him. but i think what might happen in the coming debate is that we're going to have the focus on other people who haven't now been in the spotlight. of course starting with fiorina, but with carson now, tied in iowa. it's going to be a lot of focus on him. at the other end of the spectrum, rand paul is the one hanging on the edge who could be kicked off the main stage. i think he's now at number 11. so you could get a real vu shuffling. then you get bush and walk who are had weak debate performances the first time around. and the question is that a habit or can they cure it. >> another person who's made a move at least in new hampshire is john kasich. and he's now in second in

dean, former governor of vermont. he's also an msnbc political analyst and nicole wallace, a former white house communication director and adviser for george w. bush's re-election campaign and john mccain's presidential campaign. your scorecard so far? >> big night for carly fiorina. you knew she was going to have a good night by being there. after that horrible thing donald trump said about her. everybody comes in prepared one liners. she has deployed hers without looking like she's deploying a one-liner. point after point, she never feels as if she's been left out of a conversation. a lot of other candidates, they'll go 20, 30 minutes at a time and suddenly they speak and you go oh, my god, where have they been? >> in contrast, i think trump has had an awful night. >> he did. he did. . >> but i have no idea whether that's going to impact him. >> i think the longest recorded silence ever for donald trump. in his life, possibly. but the debate has, as chuck said, it keeps coming back to carly. many of these candidates keep referring to her. and according to the rules of the debate, if you say my name, i get to respond. so she's been in this a lot. >> in addition, she's inserted

john var garvey, our first speaker is president of the cathyick university of america. he was the dean of boston ollege law school from 1999 to 2010. and 2008 he was the president of the association of american law schools. he has practiced law with the firm of marches den in san francisco. taught at notre dame, michigan, and kentucky. co-author of numerous books including religion and the constitution and sexuality and the u.s. catholic church. from 1981 to 1984, he was the assistant to the solicitor general of the united states and he was elected to the american law institute in 1982. please welcome john. [applause] john: thank you very much. thanks for having me down here. i have never been to the cato institute. i'm surprised. i have so many friends who work here. so let me begin with a little quiz. i want you to answer mentally the following three questions. who said this? first, you're not making a gift of what is yours to the poor man but you you are giving him back what is his? the earth belongs to everyone not to the rich. his was pope paul the sixth. equally worrying is the e

dean down. he does. he takes himself down as well. he allows johnst place and win the nomination. i don't think jeb wants to be known as the guy that just takes down donald trump. >> i get the theory which is trump has 100% name id. he is sitting at 25-30. that means there is a large chunk of the party that's not for trump. >> right. >> it's not like he's an unknown figure. >> right. >> so that's the theory of the case. the problem for jeb is this is just not -- this is just not who he is. it just doesn't feel -- it just doesn't feel like it's a comfortable place for him. >> jeb needs to play the long game. i do agree with bill on this. we've been saying that donald is going to be the race. he was going to be relevant. he was going to do very well. but you never heard me say i think donald will get 50% plus one. he may. but if i'm jeb bush, i play the long game. i have a lot better chance of getting 50 plus than donald trump. i just don't care. i've seen it a billion time and so you have. august is crazy time. and then we go into the fall. still a l

dean up high, dick gephardt attacking him. they basically eviscerated each other the last two weeks in iowa. and johned back in. >> that's what kasich and rubio want. >> exactly. that's what i was going to say you to. this would be a dream for kasich and rubio. let jeb get into the fight. >> jeb is getting in the ring. kasich is holding back. kasich is getting the big crowds in new hampshire. rubio had this quiet summer. they're happy for jeb to go in and start throwing punches. >> maybe the party is behind -- this whole pledge thing. everybody might be closing in. donald trump is now turning his sights on a man running neck and neck with him in most iowa polls. dr. pben carson. in an interview, he said carson is a friend but would struggle managing an economy. i think it's just a very difficult situation that he puts himself into. to have a doctor who wasn't creating jobs and would have a nurse or maybe two nurses. it's such a different world. i created tens of thousands of jobs. >> i'm sorry. when you read that, i wish we had a shot of steve, john and mike. because we all lowered our heads and star

. >> as howard dean always says and others say, it's easier to continue running for president than stop running for president. if you're johnerry and you were called mr. president at 6:00 while eating chowder in boston like a couple of hours before the election results come in, and you are sure you're going to be president of the united states, you never get over that. you never get over it. if you're al gore and get more votes than the other guy and everybody you know wherever you go tells you that it was stolen from you in 2000, you don't ever get over that. if you're joe biden and you believe it's god's will that you're president of the united states going back to 1988, it's something you know. you've been around these people. it stays in you. >> in joe biden's case my understanding is it's not his feeling that it's god's will but maybe his son's will. i can't imagine -- i can't fathom a more animating purpose than to sort of honor your son who was your best friend and love of your life's final wish. to me joe biden is in a different category. for someone like joe biden, it's flipping a switch. he's always what we just s

dean of faculty now professor. at the university of massachusetts at amherst. and among them are the biography about john adams to win the national book award and of book of the revolutionary brothers the founding brothers revolutionary generation and what that poll is surprised in 2001 he has written and most recently "the quartet" oddity york times best-seller list of second revolution that began 1787 not 1776. but first thanks for coming. why did you decide to focus your academic career of the revolutionary war period? what was interesting to you? >> i do seem obsess. [laughter] they asked back in the '50s why did you rob banks? he said because that is rare they keep the money. [laughter] the late 18th century is ready keep the idea is sets though wellspring the big bang the plays were values and institutions as three continue to live as americans were created and in some sense they are like our classics as to what they were the founders are to us. >> when did you come to this realization in college? that you said i will spend buying entire career focused on the founding fathers? >> i never said that.