the best thing about john durham's he has a full picture of everything in this investigation? >> martha: do you think is credible? >> it's hard for me to say. >> martha: were you aware of him when you are at the doj? >> only that i knew of the company overstock and that was only as a citizen who buys stuff off the internet. it wasn't a name that crossed my transit but i was supervising the mueller investigation. we weren't looking at the origins until we had the investigation done. >> martha: it doesn't sound like he was ever asked any questions about the investigation, do you think that's odd to? >> a little bit, i do. the question boils down to in 2016, why did the feds let this entire russian interference operation continue without abatement? that is what this whole story feeds into and in 2018 and 2020, you're going to see that trump administration do a much different effort against these interference efforts and that's the real story here. >> martha: he has turned over his story to john durham, we don't know what they will find. we are giving them an opportunity to tell h

. >> what i'm going to say, the three of you, i hope john durham in connecticut, i hope this isff all part of the effects that he's going through. all of this seems too bizarre and too convenient and a lot of these explanations. i appreciate it all.oothank you. up next, president trump make it is clear, he will not stand for china's trade war retaliation. we're going to break down the biggest misconception of the tariff tip and why the left should be more concerned about china in 2020.

he said he provided documents to john durham, the u.s. attorney to the district of connecticut who at the request of attorney general bill barr is now looking to the origins of the mueller probe. >> laura: it's getting interesting. thanke you so much. getting interesting. here now to respond is robert driscoll. he was the attorney for the russian spy, maria butino, who is right in the middle of the story. attorney, trump 2020 advisory board member and the former deputy assistant director of counterterrorism for the fbi.al, i know it's a sensitive subject but what can you tell us that we haven't heard? e> basically, the timeline is right. thereio was a relationship that started at freedom fest in 2015 and continued right up until the time she was arrested a few monthshs before that. and, so to the extent -- i know the story sounds crazy, but to the extent it intersects with maria, it's consistent and can be verified through her. as to what the contacts are for the government, my main concern as her defense lawyer is he's told me that he ga

mayor, do you believe that it looks like it john durham is spending an awful lot of time in europe, 16 hours, he apparently had -- >> i know why he's spending a lot of time in europe. >> sean: is it because of what i believe, sir? >> he spent a lot of time investigating u.k., italy, ukraine, and australia. >> sean: in other words, mr. mayor, i will ask you a direct question. was there outsourcing of techniques that are illegal, and other words, did our top intelligence officials, did they outsource spying on american citizens for the purpose of hurting president donald trump or candidate trump or transition to be president trump? did they outsource intelligence gathering methods to spy on americans, to circumvent u.s. law, and outsource it to even allied countries?o did that happen, sir? >> there is plenty of evidence that it happened. plenty of evidence. some of it documentary. some of it already recorded and for a year, people in europe have been trying to get this to our fbi and they have been thwarted and ignored and pushed aside. there was a deliberate effort to cover this up. it

that probe now being conducted by the attorney general and by john durham is focused on how james comey, how john brennan, james clapper, weaponize the powerful tools of intelligence that we can trust to these brave men and women in our intelligence community and they weaponize them against all things donald trump. whether or not the obama-biden administration, this is going to be the big question in all of this solicited intel agencies to circumvent american law to do the spying that they can't do on the trump campaign or other americans. that would be a serious crime. the bigger issue becomes why did president obama begin a counterintelligence investigation against an incoming president? he will have to answer those questions. there is no counterintelligence campaign, it is never conducted on unless it is a president's, that means the president had to have knowledge and we know from the peter strzok-lisa page texting, the white house wanted to be informed every step of the way. you might remember the email from susan rice to herself on the very day of trump's inauguration. she randoml

that probe now being conducted by the attorney general and by john durham is now focused on how james comey, how john brennan, james clapper, others, weaponized a powerful tool of intelligence that we entrust to these brave men and women in our intelligence community, and how they weaponized them against all things donald trump. now whether or not the obama-biden administration -- this is going to be the big question in all of this -- solicited foreign intel agencies, well, to circumvent american law, to do the spying that they can't do on the trump campaign and other americans. that would be a really serious crime. at the issue becomes, why did president obama begin a counterintelligence investigation against an incoming president? he will have to answer those questions. and now there no counterintelligence campaign, that doesn't happen, it's never conducted unless it is a president's, that means the president had to have knowledge, and we know from the strzok-page texting, yeah, the white house wanted to be informed every step of the way. you might also remember the odd email from s

do you think john durham is aware of all of this? where's the investigation today?od job in describing what the ig is doing. i'm hearing that john durham and bill barr focused on the part refer the fbi official got started on july 31, 2016. from march until july and whether intelligence assets, western, private or u.s. were deployed in an earlier effort to start probing the trump campaign and russia ties. maybe later breadcrumb trail of evidence christopher steele then collected up and gave to the fbi. that is where i think we heard the term the other day from the attorney general, i believe there is political surveillance going on. i believe that's what he's referring to. >> and they were people like george papadopoulos. he's been on this program and he told me directly on the show that -- the guy they wanted him to be in italy, they said do not quit you have to work for trump we want to send you to rome and meet mr. joseph. that is the individual who told him russia has emails of hillary clinton. why is that important? >> i interviewed his lawyer the other day and

horowitz had been interviewing so many people in the fbi and others but remember, john durham has beeneas, people connected with the cia, others in business who are outeo there, people who are coming forward and delivering information to the department ov justice. i tell you this, everyone is waiting for this big report, and we are hearing that there will be -- they will be handing people over for prosecution -- there will be from criminal referrals. i absolutely believe that.rr based on the sources i have spoken with and the people i have talked to you, we have to wait and see if the department of justice will actually charge these people with a crime and that is something we have to see. >> sean: i think in light of what we saw, especially lack of candor, literally premeditated fraud on a fisa court, rigging and investigation, trying to influence a presidential election, two instances, separate instances, spying on a presidential candidate, transition, and then president, and then all this activity that sara mentioned overseas with durum, we have to pay very close attention. that wil

i've been hearing that john durham is working diligently.hey are not classifying his investigation yet as a criminal investigation. >> sean: i heard the words, they are not going for the low-hanging fruit here, and that information they consider to be low-hanging fruit. >> let me tell you, they went after the low hanging -- i don't know what that means either. they sure didn't have a problem going for a low-hanging fruit -- >> sean: the low-hanging fruit meaning that's the easy stuff but the stuff that is more severe is where they are going. >> you prosecute someone on an easy charge where, he admits to leaking information in the hopes of getting bigger information from them. to separate the two out -- >> sean: there might come that point. i don't think they are there. >> i don't know why they would do that before they finish the investigation then. >> sean: i got the sense that they are not going to start with the smallest and weakest part of the case. they are going to start with the strongest part of their case. that's what was told to me

attorney john durham are leaking at serious allegations of fisa abuse and the real origins of the russiaro. don't forget, james comey swore that the evidence in the phis application and multiple renewals was true and accurate. but the evidence was not true and it was not accurate. and it was never verified. so day by day, we are inching closer and closer to truth and justice to hold those that abuse power accountable. and james comey, the self-proclaimed super patriot has been exposed as a corrupt, deep state bureaucrat. it was higher loyalty is to nob. joining me now for a reaction to all of this is former congressman and fox news contributor trey gowdy. i served with mr. gotti on the congress and it was a pleasure to do so and try, i appreciate you coming here. i love the glasses. it's a good look. it's a good look. >> i love you too jason. >> jason: you have read through the report. you have dealt personally with mr. director called me over a series of years. what's your take away from what mr. horowitz concluded? >> he is a two-time offender. remember horowitz also is deemed for his

the republicans including a former pentagon spokesman asking john durham to broaden the investigationgation started. your take? >> as far as durham goes, he'll keep his focus on what led to the instigation of the mueller investigation. did the dossier play a role? how did we get to where we are today? i think it's less likely he'll look into the conduct of mueller and his team. i think from the republican perspective the mueller report is a closed chapter in our history. i would be surprised if they wanted to put a spotlight on mueller and his investigation. which i don't think any american wants at this point. >> the justice department saying democrats are looking to harass the president more than legislate. the doj is urging a federal he feels court to overturn a ruling to force president trump's accounting firm to turn over years worth of financial records for to congress. >> i am watching this case closely. there is no question a lot of the subpoenas are not being issued for a legitimate legislative purpose. but to harass and badger the president and score political points. but i

in a very short period of time, john durham has interviewed i understand, dozens of potential witnesses and has moved into setting up a grand jury. it is going to happen. i will say this, i think people need to be reasonable in the expectation of potential criminal charges. this is a very difficult area of the law. to bring criminal charges where government official is claiming the act in good faith. we may see some initial cases which are not brought but eventually, durham is focusing on a very large criminal conspiracy and involving defrauding the united states government the faithful service of these agencies. i think ultimately, he will get to the point of bringing charges. it is not going to happen quickly. there are going to be some instances where he is not going to have enough evidence to charge even some pretty big people initially. but some of these players will be involved in more than one series of criminal investigations. if they get a pass one instance they may not get it in another. it's going to be rough, it will be difficult but bill barr is not going to pass up the opp

is a target along with a number of other people of a major criminal conspiracy investigation by john durhamoesn't mean he is going to be charged but he's right in the middle of a grand conspiracy that john durham is investigating. i applaud what bill barr did in not bringing this case. >> laura: i am against runaway prosecutors, patrick fitzgerald working against so many people over the years and in this case anyone else who has political acts for them to grind -- i want to play for both of you what comey said a few months back in 2018 about the leaking issue. watch. >> the fbi gets upset when people make unauthorized disclosures, there was nothing protected about this are classified -- i believe i acted appropriately and i handled the memo says appropriately and created them for an important purpose. >> laura: thoughts about that. >> he didn't act appropriately, he acted like a coward. he leaked the information, laundered it through a columbia law professor -- he didn't have the courage of his convictions. if he thought it was okay to release these to the media, he should've gotten on tele

the exact same thing i have been hearing today from my sources, very senior level sources, that john durham's investigation is moving full steam ahead and that the information that the public will hear in the upcoming months will shock the conscience and i think it will satisfy quite a few people. >> sean: thank you both. you've been phenomenal and truthful with this audience which most media has not been. thank you very much. first, in the wake of the past week, the reaction from many on the left, we saw it, it was shameful, grieving families, they have yet to bury their loved ones, probably many haven't picked out coffins and where they are going to bury their loved ones. look at that. democratic party, dnc, elizabeth warren, click here, donate? donate? are you kidding me? elizabeth warren? humanity seems to take a backseat to politics? president trump forcefully condemning hate? he's going to meet with families tomorrow. anyway, joining us, we are pleased to have back on the program our good friend ari fleischer. former white house press secretary. and charlie hurt of course, his brand-new

we have john durham within the e origins of the interest addition, the counterintelligence investigationtrump campaign. rows of senator lindsey graham on the senate side. to your point, that bill barr make the right decision, that the number one goal has been to restore the impartial and professional ethos that is characterizing the agency for more than 200 years, if you don't have a case, if you can't show intent, you don't bring it. andy mccarthy earlier on fox news said roughly the same thing. at the price tag to find out what launched the investigation of the trump campaign and get accountability, if you're price tag is indicting everyone who made an error in judgment, you will never find out what happened. andy mccarthy. >> katie: i'm glad the justice department left out this garbled language, "we didn't exonerate him, but we are not going to prosecute them." he still might be guilty but they won't bring a crime forward. so i'm glad that bill barr is continuing to do that. it's important to also remember that the ig report that we are waiting for simply investigates and recommends p

promised, when he is clutch, with the inspector general has promised, when he is pledge, and what john durham is also investigating. my sources tell me tonight that in fact, much progress has been made. things are a little delayed because of the progress but the truth will come out. i have it from high ranking sources. now, you have a high ranking fbi fish like andrew mccabe, he leaked and lied on a regular basis. he paid a price for that. by the way, american war hero, lieutenant general michael fun, remember? yeah, he got an alien nailed for lying to the fbi. we can't have a two-tiered justice system. we need at a local application of our laws and that is our constitutional republic. it is the foundation and core of our rule of law. joining us now from the judicial watch, its president tom fitton. tom, my sources very strongly confirming to me that, and i know you felt differently than me last week on the issue, for example, on call me, the issue of intent as it relates to, okay, he did have the documents in his house, less than candid, lack of candor as they call it, lying, but at the end

attorney john durham is actually a man who does see the blind lady, that doesn't -- is not partisan at and unlike what you saw with of the mueller dossier team which we now know he wasn't even charged with that investigation. so i don't believe you will see that, but i do believe that james comey will be held accountable, and there is one other point that is important to make: the ig also has important powers. the ig does not have the power, though, to investigate or compel people to be interviewed that don't work with the department of justice or in the government. so, i have always been hesitant to, although i appreciate with the ig is doing, they i are limited where john durham is not limited. the u.s. attorney looking at this. so, there are a lot more people to need to be interviewed, even in our investigation. we would love to have a law enforcement arm that we could go out and conduct more interviews.em but, the fbi and the u.s. attorney in connecticut, they have, they are building their team. they have a lot of people out. there will be a lot of people that are interviewed becau

if this is going to get serious at some point, john durham is going to have to panel the grand jury.he thing we should all be watching for, does the grand jury grand jury get in pounds, to the subpoenas go up, that'll be a sign the that the department is looking at criminal activity here right now, there's no sign of that. that's what i'm going to be watching for the next couple weeks. >> sean: usually they tried to hide the fact if they are going to panel the grand jury. we know james comey was literally worn in multiple occasions. you broke a least one of those stories about ten days before call me signed the first fisa warrant in october 2016 before the election. he was also worn what we know by bruce ohr as was everybody else for there are potentially other cases where he was warned about the dossier not being verified, it being political, but that's only one path. now, and the mueller report, correct me if i'm wrong, the professor joseph misfit, he was in fact, they thought he was a russian agent. we found out he wasn't a russian intelligence guy. then you have steffes von alper

i know that john durham and others inside the department of justice are looking at various aspects of this, some of which are going to stand in the audience when they hear about it because they are just not going to even imagine it coming to them that way. what we know is this. and let's go back to your first question that you asked john. you said when this all started, years ago, let's not forget, that then chairman devon nunez, when we he was head of the house intelligence committee, looking into irregularities with masking some americans. remember, that is so important here because when we are looking at the intelligence community and the government and particularly what was happening under the obama administration, the on mappings were extraordinary. no one had ever seen anything like this. that means they were actually unmasking communications between americans, overseas, they were taking those, removing all their years. they extended, the ability for people within the intelligence community to then it spread in these, what they call, tech cuts. these conversations through alt. t

attorne john durham about the origin of the russiati investi?ou see the president knocking comey along with his alls on x news. is that report the one the white house is looking for? eevian: the white house is alwaysngn eye on things. mueller testimony as the big he one in tms of whether or not the president would be i any wayffted. >> i think one of the side effects of the way trump handle the investigation is the pieces of it, whatever piece you talk about, is vwed through intenselns partisan lenses, so how youiew jim comey, how you view the other pieces of thisthis almost entirely dependent on how you vw trump. robert: by this the trump standard, comey shod be saying i'm exonerated, because there were to no criminal charges. >> i think comey is all along. he's not a democraocc hero. robert: whilthose fights heated up, president trump's trade war cooled down, for now. markets made gains when chinesg officials said they're eager continue face-to-face ugotiations with the u.s. and president trump also expressed optimism. michael schear asked the

maria: yeah, we will get the john durham report when do you think? what he's uncovered? we don't know. >> i don't think you will see it quickly. maria: important story, byron, thanks so much. >> thanks, maria. maria: the u.s. hitting telecom giant as it rolls out new operating system, the strategy coming up. helping homeowners, bond yields those to refinance, we are taking a look when we come back. s $4.95. delivery drones or the latest phones. $4.95. no matter what you trade, at fidelity it's just $4.95 per online u.s. equity trade. >> welcome back, deadly rush hour shooting in houston, lauren simonetti on headlines, lauren. lauren: unbelievable, maria, police say the gunman is on the run after shooting and killing two people with this semiautomatic rifle during rush hour in i10 freeway, the gunman fired multiple rounds killing both men in the other car, we don't know the motive at this point. hauwei striking back against the u.s. blacklist descriptions releasing own operating system for smart phones and other devices, it's called harmony os unveile

the bigger part of the probe, john durham. looking into the origins of the trump investigation.as the fisa court either misled or not. and the use of the christopher steele dossier and the use of christopher steele after he had been fired for leak together press. they are the times of things we should want to see in daylight to know whether the fbi was operating within the bounds. liz: this is about the precedent of use the intelligence apparatus, the intelligence community, to spy on an opposition campaign. that's the danger zone here. james comey was basically fired for his handling of the hillary clinton email probe. now the allegation coming in is he took memos out of the fbi offices after he was fired. and he had confidential information in his personal home. so ways your reaction to james comey on this front? >> it's the department irony. here is the guy who passed judgment on hillary clinton and her intent when it came to the use or misuse of emails and servers. now we are hearing maybe he was miseution or possessing things he shouldn't possess at his home. it sounds like

the fisa report earlier this summer got delayed in part because us attorney john durham of connecticut is investigating this matter and working in coordination with the doj inspector general. sometime in september or early october, no reason to doubt that. >> it keeps continually getting pushed back. we heard it would come out this summer and in september. something we heard could come any day, the charges against andrew mccabe. should he be criminally prosecuted? what will happen kick you >> if doj is leaning that way, his attorneys include the former inspector general who met with the us attorney in addition to jesse lou and the deputy attorney general jeff rosen presumably to talk doj out of prosecuting andrew mccabe and this has to do with an internal investigation by the fbi in terms of a leak in october 2016. mccabe denies he was the source of that leak. turns out he authorized a leak. to talk to a wall street journal reporter and leak this information. he said i didn't do it, didn't know who did it until the end when he said maybe i did that. heather: they confused him. >> it is

i've heard john durham is working diligently. heather: a full report from the inspector general is expected in at least a month. folks have been waiting for that for a while. a foxbusiness alert, jobs report for july expected in a few hours and expected to be good news for the economy. bloomberg predicting 165,000 jobs added, down from june with 224,000 jobs created. unemployment is expected to drop back to 3.6%. that matches the number from april and may of this year, the lowest rate in 50 years. the time is 10 minutes after the top of the hour. hillary clinton said she would put a minors out of work. democrats are pushing a green new deal. the president does this. >> putting a minors back to work and steelworkers back to work. >> our next guest is a financial analyst who says history is about to repeat itself and wondering what happened to your amazon package? a major theft ring just busted and you will never guess who the ringleaders are. are you a veteran, own a home, and need cash? you should know about the newday va home lo

and not have to pay any price unless there is something else happening and i have been hearing john durham is looking diligently. >> the full report is expected in the coming weeks. puerto rico's governor is preparing to resign with no replacement. ricardo rocheleau stepping down as massive protests erupted over his tweets really women, lgbt q and hurricane maria victims. the secretary of state pedro lucy would replace him but might not have enough votes for confirmation. we will watch and see how that plays out. in the meantime to see how the weather is looking for today, janice dean outside on fox square. >> it is very nice out today. we are in the 70s. let's look at the maps and see if i am correct, there we go. 75 the next couple hours, 76, our summer concert series, jason lure -- more is here. i hope justin more will forgive me. 74 in new york city. in the 60s across the great lakes. we have a friend stalled out over the central us that could bring showers and thunderstorms and look at our friends in florida. that looks like tropical moisture and it is coming from the south. we will w

attorney john durham, only insight, is we might with mike ol horowitz, a group of judiciary members inold us they were in process of preparing a report but they had to reinterview witnesses, only reason i think they came in possession of contradictory information, i think that lindsey graham is correct. the picture that is taking form now is one of a nexis of democratic partisans in intelligence agencies in department of justice, creating a fall nair -- fal false narratd feeding it. being used to initiate investigations into leak news of that investigation to the press. in an effort to influence the 2016 election, when they failed to do, that to use that on undermine the legitimately elected president, that was the insurance policy that peter strzok ominously spoke of in his e-mails. elizabeth: meaning the steale files. >> yes. elizabeth: everyone understands the necessity to figure out how deep russia got in, in middling in the u.s. election. there is a separate track, about that about politicizing the intelligence community. when you say condra dec -- contradictory, we talking james

. >>> i want to know when is barack obama going to be interviewed by john durham and the fbi. >> do you believe that will happen? >> i believe it will. in fact, there is no way you can finish this investigation without interviewing the former president of the united states. >> that is former u.s. attorney and fox news mainstay joe just a short while ago on fox news. some supporters of president trump are now turning their attention to what president obama knew about the early stages of the russia investigation. during an interview last night, before the release of the ig report, senator lindsey graham, the cheryl of the judiciary committee said it is a plan he wants answered each week. >> stuck between white house wanting to know any detail. does that mean barack obama, the president at the time, should be asked what he knew and when he knew it about all this? >> i can't imagine an investigation of the republican nominee for president counter intelligence investigation of his campaign was not approved at the highest level. the question for me is, who told obama, and when you find out wh

i truly believe that attorney general william barr will do the right thing, that he and john durham are conducting a thorough investigation. just look at john's story, what happened? they did nothing. they are burying this, we know christopher wray is fighting, judicial watch and everything else, not to give up any information. all that we can hope is the department of justice does its job, that it cleans house, that it exposes those documents that are supposed to be made public to the american people and we know the truth once and for all. we cannot afford to have a two tear justice system because the most important department in this country is the department of justice and that's what we count on, that is the final say. otherwise nothing will happen. >> sean: let's get to the politics side of this. $16 trillion, we are going to eliminate oil and gas, everything is free and guaranteed. every democratic hopeful has expressed some sort of support for the green deal, illegal immigrants, open borders, free health care, on policy, assuming creepy, crazy, lazy, sleepy uncle joe is going to

but remember, john durham has been interviewing people overseas, people in the cia, others in business who are out there, people who are coming forward and delivering information to the department of justice. i tell you this. everyone is waiting for this big report, and we are hearing that they will be handing people ove over. there will be criminal referral referrals. there will be criminal referrals. i absolutely believe that based on the sources i've spoken with the people i've talked to. we have to wait and see if the department of justice will actually charge these people with a crime. that is something that will have to see. >> sean: lack of candor. trying to influence a presidential election. two instances. separate instances. all of this activity that sarah mentioned overseas. we've got to pay very close attention to it. that would be the outsourcing of that which is illegal in this country to circumvent the laws. >> greg: the fbi and the department of justice, not only engage in corrupt acts. they engaged in lawless acts. lindsey graham is going to be meeting the attorney domi

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>> again, i'm glad john durham is doing an investigation into a lot of the surveillance that's goingthat william barr is looking at the actors at the highest levels of doj to ensure that they're doing what the american people expect them to do, not using their political motivations to surveil or spy on individuals especially in an opponent's campaign, like what happened with what we saw with the trump campaign. elizabeth: regular u.s. citizens working on a campaign. we don't know who was unmasked or surveilled. we don't know the true depths of this story because the mueller probe didn't look into it. >> well, and mueller himself when we asked him in the hearing and asked him about what preceded all of this and how we got to where we are today, he refused to answer any of those questions. so hopefully the ig investigation comes out very soon and we know what precipitated all of this, and if there are people that were not doing what they were supposed to be doing at the highest levels of the doj, they will be held accountable. elizabeth: congressman, thank you very much for joining us,

i know that john durham wants to interview a maltese professor with russian ties but also western intelligenceudy, who seemed to play a role, but there are a lot of questions that need to get out in the public. we had a look at a lot of this information, but it never got declassified. bill barr has the authority from the president to declassify documents not only in the department of justice and the fbi, but also other government agencies as well. elizabeth: can bill barr declassify at the c ia? >> he can, but i'm glad to hear him mention the words intelligence community because as we've said many, many times, brennan, clapper, these guys were at the absolute epicenter, liz, of trying to damage candidate and then president trump. elizabeth: doug burns, you're terrific. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. elizabeth: thank you so much for watching. we we helped you -- we hope we helped you tonight. lou dobbs is next right here on the fox business network. have a good evening. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump facing a critical moment of his presidency. he's overseas at the g7 su

agencies to have government, intelligence agencies outside the government, that's where you have john durhamonnecticut involved under the guidance of attorney general barr, many people are pleased that the attorney is finally taking takie reins here and doing what we and trey gowdy started 2 years ago. david: congressman, the biggest question in my mind how high it was, was it just rogue actors like peter strzok and andy mccabe who were going with their political instincts rather than the good interest of justice or did it go higher than that, were there people at the top or after all this started during the obama administration, was anybody at the top levels of government involved in this? >> well, i think that the inspector general may answer that question. there's already significant evidence that it extended outside of the department of justice to intelligence gathering organizations, a lot of questions -- i know that john durham wants to interview a multiprofessor with russian ties but also western ties with joseph who played role in getting this started and i hope that takes place but

to answer your question the fisa matter is the next step and we talked about this john durham looking at it and so forth. that could be the next shoe to drop. david: chris i don't know if you've dealt with the fisa court to all of the evidence that they have received to put out a warrant has to be verified. they use the word verified. this was anything but verified. this type sang it was paid for by the dnc and it was peer political rot and yet that was used as evidence in a fisa court to spy on an american. sara: i've signed on to many fisa's and on many criminal affidavits. if there's information you have to give the judge the relevant information and if there's contradicting information or information that goes against the probable cause you're presenting to the judge that contrary to your probable cause you up for duty to disclose that and there were quite a few omissions material omissions. love to have a chat with that fisa judge to see what he thinks or she thinks. david: i'll bet aji barnes is doing that right now. doug and chris bury great to see you both, thank you very much

there's investigations by john durham, the special prosecutor, looking at the fisa issues.re's more to come. >> shepard: have a great weekend. show your gold. >> thank you. >> shepard: thanks. tracking hurricane dorian now. forecasters say life threatening conditions are possible if and when it happens what they believe will happen and that is that this storm will come ashore as a category four. we'll go live to south florida as people stock up and get ready. plus, first plastic pollution and now toxic algae. the new and serious concerns over what is in the water in lake tahoe as we're at the bottom of the hour. the top of the news is next. >> shepard: bottom of the hour, top of the news. hurricane dorian is churning in the atlantic ocean. this is where it was the last time we got an update from the hurricane center at 11:00 right here. you can see since then, the storm has been moving i think 14 miles an hour to the northwest. it's gotten to here so far and we believe it's strengthening because the pressure has dropped. this is the cone of where they think it's going to go

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>> may 14th john durham was appointed. may 13th. >> how do you know? >> her lawyer.yer. >> she was in a special housing unit. a different type of housing that you have available. in some countries solitary confinement more than three months is considered torture. they sentenced her to 18 months in solitary confinement for 10 months until i went in and spoke up. >> are you sympathetic to butina? do you have feelings for her? >> i am very fond of her. maria needs to go home to russia and be the next president. best thing for russia and the united states is if maria butina goes home a national hero. >> why would would it be good for us if a russian spy goes home and is a hero? >> chris. names are the guests of reality. you put a word like spy. this girl -- these are big questions. we are not going to get into them in soundbites. >> i am giving you a ton of time because i want the context. >> maria butina. >> it would apply if she were working for the russian government. >> the government does not allege she was a spy. it alleges she was an agent of influence. as the pro