john mack. john, good to have you. during the break seven or eight years after row of the bankers are still targets. tens of billions in fines. not enough. what do you make of it? >> i'm not surprised at all. one of the hearings there were four or five of us dear jamie dimon, lloyd link fine and brian was there and i was there. when it was over lloyd made the comment what do you think, john? another three or four year of the senate calms down. avoid it at the end of the korean war before bankers were respected again going back to the depression. depression happened in the 30s. it wasn't the 60s that focused on the banks. it is greatly. >> another 15 or 20 years ago. the >> point by point if it doesn't surprise me and it's not over. neil: what about all the fines? either a 37 -- in the most recent wave, over 100 million since all this began and now dozens more. >> it is political. i think the real question i have in the financial sector are up dramatically. think about the favor who has invested money in these companies

we should point out that john mack is trying to be treasury secretary. he thinks that he has a shot at it. >> you say that. you might genuinely have -- >> yes, but he does want to be treasury secretary. these guys want to end their career on a high note. >> a jaded, cynical -- >> he might genuinely like hillary clinton, but he wants a job. >> he wants his name on the dollar bill. >> you are right. >> he wants -- he would be a better secretary than jack lu. he would be a good one. the problem is that john doesn't realize this is not the democratic party that he thinks it is. it's not the democratic party of him and his friend larry fink at black rock that are marginally liberal democrats. >> or communists. >> these communists are running. comrade bill de blasio elizabeth warren. that's where he is wrong. >> ben stein, i guess it is saying something about our system and maybe he is just exposed the reality that is there. don't believe what she's saying. she doesn't believe it. she's more like her husband than the left wing as she appears in public. that is

professor kevin mcmahon is the john mack meier professor of political science at trinity college. he got his ba in political science at trinity college. he got his ba in new york and his phd and politics from brandeis. his publications include "reconsidering roosevelt on race: how the presidency paid -- paved the road to brown," published by the university of chicago press in that was the 2004. winner of the american political science association award for the best book on the american presidency published in 2004. his latest book, which will be the subject of his remarks this evening is "nixon's court: his challenge to judicial liberalism and its political consequence." it was published again by the university of chicago press. i could continue to list the professor's accomplishments but that would reduce the time left for his remarks. i hope you will join me in welcoming professor mcmahon. [applause] professor mcmahon: thank you. this goes up, so i get to play with this toy. it is really a great honor to be here this evening, and before i begin, i want to thank the supreme court

people are saying that john mack is clearly angling for that treasury secretary job. i have ran that by john a couple of months ago, you know we asked to put the question to him fox business he laughed it off saying, i'm having fun in the private sector but clearly his colleagues inside moore stanley say that is why he did that public announcement on hillary clinton on your show. >> thank you my friend. charlie gasparino back to the dow i told you we wanted concentrate on this. mentioned and back to positive territory. back over 18,000, big catalyst as i told you surprising economic news. perhaps more importantly mortgage applications running at a better than 8% plus rate as americans get off fence to commit themselves to housing. oil issues are up xeemed three of the dow 30 stocks are oil related. so when they move up, own course it is not surprising to see the dow move up one day if not it is a trend we thought we would pass that along as to why we're seeing heavy advances for now that we are. but meanwhile something else that is capturing wall street and main stree

john mack cormack is one of the founders -- tom: he from day one, minister, took it to center.ter sturgeon: his son has been a celebrated professor of law at the university of edinburgh. tom: would he know your party today? minister sturgeon: i think he would see in the party today when he and colleagues saw back then. it is been disproved along the way because we now have a scottish parliament that is becoming ever more empowered. i think the profile of scotland internationally is good for an economy good for business, and good for our general standing. vonnie: first minister, would you describe this as a pro-europe, -- minister sturgeon: i think scotland benefits from being in the single market. the jobs and scarlet and -- in scotland depend on the single market but our culture and our sense of who we are -- i am anti-austerity, in the sense that austerity cuts, and george osborne, the u.k. chancellor are harboring full numeral p people -- vulnerable people. the innovation in the skills to get the economy going day, many people in scotland are pro-monarchy, and many people wa

neil: we will work through the break and a lot of comments back and forth, with john mack. was responding to this big pile on yesterday and who he is surprisingly backing for president of the united states. i will give you a hint. is not chris christie but i think you will be shot in these gentlemen might be. after this. this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than allergy medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. you premium like clockwork. month after month. year after year. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? if you have liberty mutual deductible fund™, you could pay no deductible at all. sign up to immediately lower your deductible by $100. and keep lowering it $100 annually, until it's gone. then continue to earn that $100 every year. there's no limit to how much you

. >> john mack saying she's being politically expedient that she has to be this way but doesn't thinkally is. >> democratic party has and made of working class families and hillary clinton has to appeal to working class -- >> democratic party isn't made pup of working class folks it is -- because you saw in her speech made up a bunch of different special greece groups why her speech takes 45 minutes long. she had to address every single one of them. it is african-american, states -- [inaudible] >> hard work not rich folks like mitt romney. >> far from the subject. fact of the matter she's a new candidate, now saying something sthe never said before, and a lot of these republicans who got where they are with a lot of big financial money, are saying things that they haven't said before. so there's a lot of behavior beginning on. we shall see guys thank you. here on this whole hillary stunt going on a different issue. the president on trade. another example l taking the side of the very folks who were bashing her husband. >> nancy pelosi particularly and people who were now bashing presi

types and the business types supporting hillary clinton who think she's mouthing off rhetoric, like john mack, the morgan stanley ceo said early in the week. hillary clinton is giving this populist stuff and i'm paraphrasing. neil: which is why he's supporting her. >> a clinton moderate democrat. democratic party is not bill clinton's party. it's the democratic party of bernie sanders, of elizabeth warren, he is nominally independent but caucuses with the democrats. elizabeth warren, bill de blasio, the new york city mayor. that is the modern democratic matter. it's so far left not even hillary can bring it down. neil: this is a very undecidedly anti-business washington. >> well, anti-business democratic party in washington. neil: we don't have trade being done at all in this environment, right? >> harder. neil: bad for wall street? >> yeah, there's other issues. neil: absolutely, absolutely. >> slow growth economy and low interest rates is generally good for the stock markets, but you know, net net it's not a good thing, the bigger problem for the economy and the wall street and the business

. >> he said he'll mack that decision later this month. johnn." good morning. >> good morning. >> congratulations on your debut. >> thank you. >> congratulations? congratulations all the way around. >> we're all congratulating. on to governor chris christie how does he position himself if he decides to win? >> he's one of these people that will run, of course. he portrays himself as a truth teller. we've seen this script before. john mccain did it. do a lot of town halls. connect with voters almost voter by voter to build up a base there. he's not going to do a lot of campaigning in iowa. he'll try. but new hampshire is the place for him. he's going to have to try to create something there. >> were you sur prizeprsurprised about his overturning the law on marijuana? >> what's striking is he said this is an illness and the war on drugs has failed. so some people who say the war on drugs has failed has said stop trying to criminalize this stuff. criminalize the disease and spend the money that way. so for him there was a tension there in his two

mack, thanks so much for being with us. kate, let's go back to you. >> thanks, john. we're going to be getting back down to the ground in south carolina with john in just a second. we heard from the attorney general as john was talking about, loretta lynch. also just into cnn, we will be hearing from the president himself a little later this hour in just about 30 minutes. president obama will be making a statement on the shooting in south carolina. he'll be making that statement from the white house. we will, of course, bring that to you live. a lot of developments coming into cnn as we speak. we're going to be following all of the developments in this shooting massacre in south carolina but we also have this breaking news coming in from memphis police in tennessee, and they are now investigating a case involving shots fired at one of that city's african-american churches. we're told one of the church's pastors noticed bullet holes in the front door of the sanctuary last night. now, they do stress at this moment they say nothing so far indicates a connection between t

john j. college of criminal justice. thank you for joining me detective. david sweat, convicted of first-degree murder for killing a sheriff in 2002. richard mack killed and dismebd dismembered his boss in 2007. when they say these guys are bad, they mean it. don't you think they would do a more precise head count? >> especially when you're dealing with a situation of a very high rate of population inside that prison with really bad offenders. >> let's talk about the search here. they could be anywhere, which we have heard 16,000 different times, so how do you find someone who planned something so elaborately? >> you can't track them with cell phone records and things like that. these guys planned this so well i doubt they would go someplace where the police would look for them first, like canada. i believe they would go somewhere else. >> so often when we find an individual on the run, they're often arrested within their area whether it's near the prison or they try to go back home hoping for some kind of support there, and they're often caught in their hometowns. >> they're going to pull all the records of everybody that has visited them, eve