gary johnson, austin peterson, and software entrepreneur john mcafee. who we think would be the best president. all of them would be better than the current frontrunners hillary and donald. but third party candidate haven't done well in american presidential elects. as a thought experiment, let me ask you, if you have to vote for one of the current democratic or republican candidates, who would you vote for? wouldn't vote? you have to vote. i'll list the candidates in the order of how they are doing on election betting odd. that's the best prediction market that gives the best forecasts of what happened in elections. the frontrunner right now is hillary. will anyone here vote for hillary? yes, we have got one. anybody vote for trump. bernie sanders? marco rubio? okay, ted cruz? we got some cruz and rubio. how many say no one because they are all awful? they are all status. the good news is that we are a government of checks and balances. so there is a limit to what bad things these politicians can do to us. maybe our semi free market will allow american

gary johnson, austin peterson, and software entrepreneur john mcafee. the best president. all of them would be better than the current frontrunners hillary and donald. but third party candidate haven't done well in american presidential elects. as a thought experiment, let me ask you, if you have to vote for one of the current democratic or republican candidates, who would you vote for? wouldn't vote? you have to vote. i'll list the candidates in the order of how they are doing on election betting odd. that's the best prediction market that gives the best forecasts of what happened in elections. the frontrunner right now is hillary. will anyone here vote for hillary? yes, we have got one. anybody vote for trump. bernie sanders? marco rubio? okay, ted cruz? we got some cruz and rubio. how many say no one because they are all awful? they are all status. the good news is that we are a government of checks and balances. so there is a limit to what bad things these politicians can do to us. maybe our semi free market will allow american entrepreneurs to grow

let's bring in john mcafee. >> i would like to start off. >> i have got ask the question.my job. let me do it. in terms of what we think about how terrorists communicate with each other it's not the obvious, a gmail account, not twitter, not what's up. from what i understand there are underground apps that terrorists use exclusively that have very few members and they are not known to you and me. how difficult would it be for government officials, for law enforcement officials to actually get at those, you know, underground apps? >> well, if we had a solid cyber security presence in the world, both the u.s. and the u.s. allies, it would be trivial. let me explain something. harris corporation of melbourne florida creates a device called a sting ray. there are one 00 of them in use here in america spying on u.s. citizens. that device can intercept phone calls within a half a mile radius. the device has a secondary purpose if you have the correct software. it can push down -- meaning you have a telephone and frequently at&t will say we are updating our system. it will do som

even john mcafee. reports are saying it is an israeli company. the name of that company, we will see if it is successful. >> okay. i am sure that they will still welcome their assistance. you never know. stockholders. >> already said, even if uncle sam asks us, we are not changing our minds. >> pre-ordering the products 9.7-inch ipad pro. it will start at $299. wireless carriers are offering incentives. orders placed today are scheduled to go out. >> what is the special edition. >> that is back in the day. >> anyway, special edition. who remembers who eat anderson? >> a great show that a lot of people are talking about. i most fondly remember him from coming to america. alongside eddie murphy and greg: okay. we have really cool type of music. oh the comic strip live. seinfield performed there. that is a great place. kerry: never been there. greg: we have the tango music on, everyone is talking about president obama and the girl he danced with. this is the president in argentina. i am looking her up on facebook. kerry: that is her. he's a public f

i want to begin by playing a sound bite, which i hope you can hear that we had last week with john mcafee, i think of him in a way as the donald trump of cybersecurity in that he's prone to say provocative things. let's listen in here and then i'll follow up with a question. >> if apple falls, so will android and google and so will every one and we are then in a world of hurt. we will be defenseless as a nation in the up and coming cyberwar. and as a people, we will lose everything to the hackers who go, oh, heavens, we don't have to do any work anymore, we have the back door to go into. >> you heard what he said there, he's depositing a domino theory of cybersecurity hinging on the apple case that is so much in the news. we're in a cyberwar and we will lose everything. do you see it quite that way? >> well, i'll try and interpret what i think mcafee is saying. i think if we think we're going to come up with a general purpose way to solve this problem and create a general purpose back door, it will weaken owl of our security infrastructure for our communications systems. and that doesn't

. >> john mcafee did -- >> whoa. >> -- into one space, get this information out of it, i don't understand. >> sua spontes something bigger than one phone if you ask me. >> we should point out, the apple cooperated with the government, in multiple cases up until the end of the year. and that is -- >> in this filing it says federal court applications over years company complied every time until now. >> at least 07 cases if not more. >> leon panetta said what snaengsed changed was he had wavered order? density revelation. maria: i don't know if you believe that why companies do not want to comply. >> do you think more to do protecting brand national security at this point. >> that is related to the snowden thing a revolt of. >> i stand by fact if people were that interested in edward snowden rand paul would be president we have have isis hacking heads off i don't understand why we can't get into phones for national security you and i went at it against another -- guest on the show those want to protect national security don't want to get to us again there are those of us want to protect priv