became loyal enough from john mccarthy. not only publicly question him , but when his brother jack said stay away from mccarthy's funeral and appleton in 1957, bobby said thank you jack interesting advice. he flew into appleton with all of his republican congressional people. and on the one hand healed up in the choir loft so nobody could see him at the funeral. at the graveside service he stood off to the side where no one could see him. after the funeral he begged the journalist who were there to not put his name in the stories and not get him in trouble with his "big brother" jack. but until the very end, and until today the kennedys generally and bobby specifically very loyal to him. with mccarty with elvis flaws is a guy who inspired on a personal level that kind of enormous loyalty. >> host: is also notable that john kennedy really danced around mccarthy rather than standing up to him. >> guest: john kennedy had a different relationship. bobby was more straightforward less plotting guy than john kennedy. john kennedy i

specifically stay very loyal to him as mccarthy for all his flaws was the guy who inspired on a personal level that kind of enormous loyalty. >> it's also notable that john kennedy really danced around mccarthy rather than standing up to him. >> don kennedy had a different relationship. bobby was a more straightforwa straightforward, less plotting guy than john kennedy. john kennedy was always thinking of his next step and i'm convinced that the david john kennedy was born he started plotting his presidential campaign. >> i think his father was doing that. >> his father did that absolutely but jack caught up quickly and in 1952 when john kennedy was a relatively unknown and unaccomplished congressman from massachusetts running against the very powerful senator henry cabot lodge to take that seat away from the republicans the poppa joe kennedy had one big request for joe mccarthy which was stay the heck out of massachusetts. joe kennedy had given enough money to joe mccarthy that wherever he asked mccarthy was likely to say yes and joe kennedy was smart enough to know that if joe mccarthy came to massachusetts and campaigned for the republican lodge lots

kennedy's, generally and specifically stayed loyal to him as mccarthy despite all this flaws, aspired the kind of enormous loyalty. >> it's notable john kennedy really danced around mccarthy rather than stand at to him. >> so john kennedy had different relationship. bobby was a more straightforward and last plotting guy than john kennedy. john kennedy was always thinking of his next step. i'm convinced the day john kennedy was born he started plotting his presidential campaign. his father was doing that absolutely but jack picked it up quickly. in 1952 when john kennedy was relatively unknown and unaccomplished congressman from massachusetts running against a very powerful center henry cabot lodge to try to take that seat away from the republicans, pahpa joe kennedy had one big request for joe mccarthy, which was state heck out of massachusetts. joe kennedy had given enough money to joe mccarthy that whatever he asked mccarthy was likely to say yes. joe kennedy was smart enough to know if joe mccarthy came to massachusetts and campaign for the republican lodge, lots of irish catholic voters who love the joe mccarthy whether they were

probably best known in the public mind as one of the very few brave senators who opposed mccarthy, john mccarthy and his tactics, very early on. she gave a speech called the declaration of conscience in june, 1950. she opposed his tactics very eloquently. she goes on to serve a very long career till the early 1970s. but she is one of the women who kind of is pushing the story of women in congress and to -- into a new era. if you're interested in this topic, you can learn more by going to our website, which is history doghouse not go up. the women in congress publication along with objects and artifacts that we don't have here on the table today. it's available on the site. up next, we take you inside the house wing of the u.s. capital to learn about the history of women in congress in the 2nd of a 2 part program. we continue the story beginning in the 1940s beginning with congresswoman claire lewis. >> i'm farrar elliott, i'm a curator for the house of representatives. that means i take care of a lot of the artifacts, the artwork, the objects that document the house rich arctic. >> i'm

john mccarthy's counsel during the carthy time. as protective, and it was against stiff competition possibly the most crooked lawyers in the united states for any years. was utterly immoral and ruthless. and in some of that ruthlessness, into both richard nixon and donald trump who he also canceled. for the last decade. there's a shamelessness in the work of roy combs. and interviews the political lives of both richard accident donald trump. eight shamelessness and recklessness. garrett: do you see them, will how do you see them as different . sort of what, which one is way smarter. [applause]. tim: nixon had a much better sense of power. say which will will about richard nixon but he understood american foreign-policy. in been vice president for eight years under dwight eisenhower. possibly the most masterful president in foreign-policy in the years since world war ii. had been all over the world. he knew things. donald trump is richard nixon on twitter, minus 50 iq points. garrett: richard nixon on twitter would be fascinating. .

of the most interesting things about mccarthy was his ability to joke with the people he was about to attack or jokingly attack them. we remember the stories of john patrick hunter longtime political reporter who battled with mccarthy throughout the 40s, throughout the 50s for sure and plan hunter would go to events he said he started to hide behind the polls at evens because he knew if mccarthy saw him in the crowd he would launch into a rather jovial attack but it wouldn't be so mean-spirited it would almost be for the fun and the joking in the crowd and i think that was very common. >> that suggests two things. one he didn't understand how brutal he was. being there with an angry crowd was putting hunter at risk and i think mccarthy didn't quite get that aspect of it but it also was joe mccarthy did see this as a bit of a game and assumed everybody who was there, journalist ojournalists or polie was going after what understand that it was a game and understand the rules and they would be able to go after with him and put it all behind them because after all it was a game. >> i think you're right about that and it comes out in your book and quit

i think that's a place we won't go. >> john: andy mccarthy, always great to see you. happy thanksgiving to you. breaking news on covid one day ahead of a major national holiday, there's word that the center for disease control is considering making changes to quarantine guidelines. this, just weeks before officials say they could start vaccine distribution. we will talk to a doctor about that and more. in the meantime businesses across country closing their doors as thanksgiving crackdowns continue. we will check in on the health of the economy. plus the tunnel to towers foundation is kicking off its season to hope that homes for heroes and their families. we will meet one of the families that is helping. stay with us. it's been a tough year. and now with q4 wrapping up, the north pole has to be feeling the heat. it's okay santa... let's workflow it. workflow it...? with the now platform, we can catch problems, before customers even know they're problems. wait... a hose? what kid wants a hose?! fireman? says "hose". -it says "horse"! not a hose! cedric! get over here!

that to me -- we are not seeing the core of the republican party, mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, steve scalise, johneadership across both parties saying, enough is enough. my guy didn't win. i would have preferred donald trump to be president. he wound up not being president. i understand joe biden, we need to move forward as a democracy. candidly, i think that's a huge problem for the republican party. what do you stand for if you don't stand for the candidate who got more popular votes, that candidate should be president, i don't know where you go from there. >> president trump did get 73 million votes which is huge. president-elect biden has 6 million more than that. is that what is keeping so many republicans afraid of speaking out against the president? >> that and donald trump himself. this is a guy who remains extremely popular in the republican base. he didn't lose because the republican base abandoned him. he lost because moderate and centrist republicans abandoned him. for the base of the party -- a lot of these candidates and politicians, they represent safe districts and safe states. in

mccarthy's lullaby. >> that is wonderful and if we could see if of the applause would be deafening right now. but i can think of no better way to end an evening with john lithgow and having him read joe mccarthy's lullaby. thank you very much area. >> thank you, you do this so well. it was really a pleasure to talk to you. >> again, our thanks to john lithgow, author of the book which i encourage all of those who registered at the commonwealth club for this event, we will be getting a copy and for those of you watching on youtube or listening on the radio, i'd encourage you to get the book called trump he dumped he wanted a crown , verses four and 58 and thank you for joining us today we also like to thank our audience for watching and participating life. if you like to watch more programs or support the commonwealthclub's efforts in making virtual programming, please visit commonwealth club.org , online. again, i'm lenny mendoza thank you and stay safe everyone area thank you again john. >>. >> now on book tv, or television for serious readers. >> we bring a former white house press secretary and medications director sean spicer, a lifelong republican

john f. kennedy. another is joe mccarthy. his early political career, nixon rose very rapidly through the ranks. he was an anti-communist. he worked hard to understand communism and why briefly during the depression many americans had been attracted could -- to communism. he was dedicated to rooting out communism from high places. he understood it was a good weapon to use against the democrats. a characteristic of republican rhetoric in the 40's was the insertion that in the state department and other parts of the government, communists were at work and truman knew they were at work. he ran successfully for a seat in the senate in 1950. red baiting his opponent. he was chosen by eisenhower to be his running mate. between 1946 and 1952. he goes from a congressman to vice presidential candidate. because he won the the election of 1952, he was inaugurated as vice president. that is the job he held throughout the eisenhower administration. in 1960 he was the republican candidate in the election against john f. kennedy. this was an election that he lost very narrowly. one of the closest elections of

and those extremists at the time either on the right with the john birch society, there was mccarthy anti-communist on the left, there were the communists and the people who were trying to help the soviet union to succeed and other groups at work extreme. and he tried to run through the middle. and he was of course criticized for not moving fast enough by one group and criticized for going to best buy the other. he definitely went right up the middle and i've often thought it's interesting because it's almost like the democrats and republicans shot themselves in their own feet by gerrymandering all the congressional districts. they did it not to cause what happenedback in the 80s but they did in order to ensure that they all got reelected . that it wasn't made the primary election the actual election because their group was always going to win, as a result of which it pushed for the extreme because the primaries one for excuse and we canundo that process . and both parties it seems to me to be interested in that but they don't get interested init , we could use another president eise

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john f. kennedy, another was joe mccarthy who was going to give his name to the era of mccarthyism. and nixon rose very rapidly through the ranks. he was an anticommunist. he worked hard to understand communism and understand why briefly during the depression many americans had been attracted to communism. and he understood that it was a good weapon to use against the democrats, a characteristic of republican rhetoric in the late '40s was the assertion that in the state department and other parts of the government, communists were at work and truman knew that and had done nothing to get rid of them. in 1952, he had only been in politics for six years, he was chosen by eisenhower to be his running mate. between '46 to '52, he goes to a freshman congressman to being vice presidential candidate. because he won the election of '52, he was inaugurated in '53. in 1960, he was the republican candidate in the election against john f. kennedy. here are the two candidates together. this was an election which he lost narrowly. one of the closest elections of the 20th century. and to make matte

those extremist at the time, on the right there was the john birch society, there was the mccarthy anti-communiston the left there with the communists and people trying to help the soviet union to succeed. and other groups that were extreme. he tried to run through the metal, and he was of course criticized for not moving fast enough by one group and for going too fast by the of the group. but he definitely went right up the middle, and i've often thought today, and it's interesting because it's almost like the democrats and republicans without knowing it shot themselves in the own feet by gerrymandering all of the congressional districts. they did it not to cause what happened back in the '80s, but they did in order to ensure they all got reelected. but what that did was it made the primary elections, the actual election, , because their group was always going to win, as a result of which it push towards the extent because the primaries worked for extremists. we could undo that process and both parties it seems to me ought to be interested in that,, but if they don't get interested in it, we cou

john f. kennedy, another was joe mccarthy who is going to give his name to the era of mccarthy is some. in his early political career, nixon rose rapidly. he was an ardent anti communist, he worked very hard to understand communism and to understand why briefly, during the depression, many americans were attracted to communism. the house on american activities was dedicated to rooting out communist in high places. he understood that it was a good weapon to use against the democrats, a characteristic of rhetoric was the assures -- communists were at work and truman knew they were at work and was doing nothing to get rid of them. he ran successfully in a seat in the senate in 1950, bathing his opponent. in 1952, he's been in politics for six here, he was chosen by eisenhower to be his running mate. so a meteoric rise in 56 to -- the to be vice bespoke candidate. because nixon won the election of 52, he was vice president 53. that is the job he held throughout the eisenhower administration. in 1960 he was a republican candidate in the election against john f. kennedy. here the two candidat

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and those extremists at the time, on the right there is the john birch society. there is the mccarthycommunist. on the left there were the communists and people were trying to help the soviet union to succeed. and other groups that were extreme. and he tried to run through the middle. and he was of course criticized for not moving fast enough by one group. in criticized going too fast by the other groups. he definitely went right up the middle. and i have often thought today it's interesting that the democrats republicans shot themselves in their own all the congressional district sprayed they did it, not to cause what happened they did it they made the primary elections, the actual election. because there group was always going to win. as a result of which it pushed towards the extreme because the primaries work for extremists. we could undo that process. in both parties seems to me to it be interested in that. if they do not get interested in it, we could do another president eisenhower that said what about getting the democrats that are moderate and the republicans that are moderat

in they say they want it to be bipartisan, but, kevin mccarthy, mitch mcconnell, not here, john? john: all right. peter doocy for us tonight from wilmington. peter, thanks so much. this just in from the white house. the michigan senate majority leader mike shirky and lee chatfield were meeting with the president. upon exiting that meeting, it's reported that the speaker and the majority leader said that they're not aware of any information that would change joe biden's win in michigan. we hope to get more of this over the next few minutes. coming ucoming up next, more str for senators facing run off in georgia and look at how the democrats' ground game there flipped the state for joe biden. here is what some of our fox affiliates are covering around the country. fox 8 in new orleans as the attorney for police officer says a combination of furloughs and rise in crime is a recipe for disaster. the police association of new orleans sent a letter this morning to the mayor and the city council warning of what it calls a catastrophic staffing crisis. from fox 6 in milwaukee with the la

john true truly, andrew mccarthy, and emily compagno. great to have you back with us today.jonathan. louis dejoy came under a lot of heaves about questions with regard to not paying overtime to postal workers, cutting down some of the hours, getting rid of some of the sorting machines, and he testified back then that those sorting machine removals were part of a long and place process, that some people saw get removed was also part of a process that has been ongoing. what do you expect will be a line of questioning for him if he does have to testify here? >> well, joe biden himself cited the postal service as part of the conspiracy with president trump to effectively steal the election, and i wrote at that time that there was no evidence of that. we have seen no evidence of it materializing. the postal service has been very transparent. they didn't expect to have any problems getting these ballots to the polling places. basically worked as they said it would, but judge sullivan's involvement in this sweeping order really attracted a great deal of unease for trump supporter i

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mccarthy. bill stepian declaring victory in pennsylvania getting up from john roberts moments ago. for wilmington, delaware, to see joe biden so that's coming up and at the trump event in philadelphia has been postponed. how long that's postponed we do not know but stand by, and all that. the battleground now, massive mailing voting numbers further complicating things and we said it would become picketed and indeed that is the case. when we came on the air last night we pleaded with you to be patient and wrestle at that point. chris stirewalt, katie pavlich, jonathan swan, they join us to give their analysis. first, wayne county, michigan. workers counting ballots find you matt, how's it going? >> the situation here is growing a little more heated. there are allegations inside of this room. there are voting challengers here who have been telling us that they feel there is not an equal number of republicans and democrats in this room. a short while ago president trump's campaign says it has filed a lawsuit here in the state of michigan arguing that it has not been given meaningful a

kevin mccarthy, minority leader said that could go maybe 19 republican women taking seats. you see things like democrat curt slater, john kentucky, what about the transition? who will succeed nancy pelosi? it is time to move on. when you hear that kind of talk on the record, that is a big deal, ari. there were like 19 house moderate democrats who were against nancy pelosi last year. >> yeah. many of them lost their reelections. so they're gone. they won't have a vote in this. the problem we heard a lot of this talk two years ago. nancy pelosi is always been that lightning rod. then she tends to survive it, i don't know that the democrats are strong enough inside of their own caucus to take her down. right now a lot of noise against her. but the bigger issue what did the democrats do wrong? why did they lose a race where they were expected to gain seats? i put the loss between 10 and 15 net seats. that is why their majority will be so slim. it will be hard for fractious democratic coalition to do anything in the house of representatives regardless who the president of the united states is. what is wrong, all this noise a

mccarthy has all of the answers, next. ♪ >> laura: huge reaction last night to our "angle" what we expose the radical roots of georgia senate candidate raphael warnock and johnf. you were convinced, look at who is hitting the campaign trail for them. >> i'm going to be spending my next couple of months doing everything that i can to make sure that we don't have a republican senate majority, that we win these races in georgia, that we secure a democratic senate majority, so that we don't have to negotiate. >> laura: no negotiation, no cooperation, take no prisoners. joining me now, house minority leader kevin mccarthy. with a lot of house seats picked up, congressman, it's kind of interesting that aoc -- oh, wait, she doesn't like to be called that. alexandria ocasio-cortez, has entered the senate free fray bee pelosi. who has the real power base in this congress? >> that's the real question, aoc runs the floor, they cannot pass legislation without her. it was a new socialist wing of the democratic party that controlled it, but it was also the mandate that america does not want to have socialism. it is the reason why not one republican incumbent lost. it's th

john boehner when they took the house in 201 of 0, into 2017 and '12. is nancy pelosi going to have to go hat in hand sometimes to kevin mccarthy and say hey, you got anyare there for me because i can't get this through with democratic votes. could that be a reality more times than she would like to face? >> sure. it could be. it could be. although, you know, kim's right about that split in the party and i still think nancy pelosi has the upper hand in that split. she can say that -- you know, to the squad, you're not the reason i'm the majority leader. we know that. and she can sell that to her caucus more broadly. we know what gave her the majority and it wasn't the radical left wing of the party. it wasn't the ao cs of the acuss. it was much more centrist democrats and i think she's pragmatic enough to know what got her there. and i expect her to continue making those arguments even if the democrats do decide to form a sort of freedom caucus like operation. paul: dan, briefly, your point about taking congress in 2020 -- house in 2022, redistricting is coming and republican gains in the state houses means they could get five, six seats through redist

john's in the corner, and-- >> that's lansing, i think. yeah, lansing, michigan. okay. andy mccarthy, your thoughts. >> well, i thought it was very perceptive on eric's part to note that they seemed to have changed their rhetoric coming out of the trump campaign to meaningful access did they get meaningful accession to observe the process. up until today, really, what we had heard was, you know, there had been no access and people had been thrown out, et cetera, and i think what's happening as these claims are being looked at harder, what we're-- what is start to go come through is that, as i think carl rokarl rove has been sayin days this is a bipartisan in the counting rooms, hard to cheat, doesn't mean it's impossible. but what we're talking about is cheating on a scale that would seal not only one state, but a number of states which is a high bar. what we've been saying from the start, every election has improprieties and human error, the question always is, can you prove something that's enough to change the ultimate results. election? if you can't, you're not really even going

john durham and bill barr on a case that is still pending for the former leadership of the fbi. we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ maria: and, first, this morning, congressman kevin mccarthysly reelected as leader of the house republicans in this week after the gop flipped 12 seats and diverse fewed victories for incoming women, vet a irans and minorities. these wins putting him on track to retake both the majority and the speaker's gavel in 2022, something he says will likely happen. leader mccarthy joins me right now. congratulations, congressman, and good morning to you. >> good morning, maria, and thanks foror having us back. maria: is so, first, assess the situation for us after 12 flippeds seat seats. what does the new face of the house republicans look like? >> well, the face looks very tremendous. i mean, we've had more women than at any time serving in congress. the republican party really made great gains. not only did we flip 12, there are 4 a more case -- races out there, and we're ahead in all 4. i expect we'll end up somewhere around 212, 213 seats. it only13 takes 218 for a majority. this will be the closest of a majority that at any time since world war ii

sincere thanks and dbi staff and james haun and john murray and director patrick reardon and wells the building inspection commission and president angus mccarthy their support and the department of environment team and and of course director and their great work and leadership and our friends of the puc general manager and as well as rob and jane or for all their work and i want to thank supervisor preston and i want to thank all the members and for their tireless advocacy and participation throughout this process and for reminding us at every turn of the urgency of the climate crisis we face without your voice and more leadership we won be here today. and so, thank you. and with that, i'm happy to answer any questions. i would like to move we adopt the amendment and passing those amendments and the items. thank you. >> there's a motion made and supervisor preston, you are on the roster. >> thank you, president yee. i want to thank supervisor mandelmanel man and his staff for their incredible work and their persistence and dedication to getting this ordinance to where it is today and as you all know, and the urgency of our climate reality dema

mccarthy who chose a word, demagogue. why was that quick. >> before answer the question, question, john is one of the many people i interviewed for this book and two things stood out. number one, the youngest person i interviewed when i tried to get a sense of people who knew the mccarthy era and new john mccarthy and the other was among the smartest people i interviewed. any of you who you are wisconsin readers know his work from the nation and having somebody who was as tune do not just to mccarthy but the mccarthy context in the nation was extraordinary. the reason i picked the wine world title is because this is a book about the love affair until today and that the subtitle capture the sense front and center was low blow joe mccarthy but to see him in the context. and the first 70 years after the beginning of his crusade is because he was the archetype for this demagogue figure in history that's a long-winded explanation. >> we are here to listen to what you have to say. so in the title you use the term the long shadow john on - - of mccarthy so what do you mean? is at the impact of what he did but the broader notion of t