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let's and john and michael. john, let me get to you. there are a number of companies out there that are relieved that down to the earnings guidance as being buried by the noise coming out of washington, d.c. nonetheless, how worried should we be about this trend? >> as you mentioned, so far inform the s&p 50090 companies have given negative guidance. if that's the final number for the quarter that will be a record since 2006. and mark the sixth straight quarter we have seen more and more companies give negative guidance. we have seen the growth rate for the third quarter come down from 6.5% at the start of the quarter down to aernings growth rate of 3% today. >> what's that mean in terms of the stock market? does that mean the stock market is not cheap? bob pisani was saying a moment ago not that far off our record highs and yet you have companies here coming and bringing their earnings guidance down. >> yeah. well, it is a balancing act. i would agree with john's rough numbers on s&p earnings growth and i think what that tells you is t

to be a right hander, john lackey tomorrow night against the young 22-year-old michael wacha for st. louis in game two. on the air 7:00 tomorrow night on fox sports 1. 2-2 on jay with holliday on deck. every phase of the game here tonight. so far the red sox have outplayed the cardinals. defensively. getting key hits. driving in runners in scoring position. and the matchup of the two number one starters, lester outpitched wainwright. inside corner. struck him out. lester applauds and these fans were applauding him all night long. ♪ ♪ dial up my number now ♪ weaving it through the wire ♪ switch me on ♪ i want to touch you ♪ you're just made for love ♪ i need ooh la la la la la sometimes, the luxurious things in life are... hey! what are you doing? get outta here! get outta here, you dumb dancers! i've told them 100 times they can't dance in here. bunch of dirty dancers. there's nothing that gets me more ticked off is a bunch of dirty, irresponsible dancers, dancin in front of my dodge durango. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] smooth and distinctive, budweiser black crown. >> joe: coming up afte

just the pashtoon issue it goes because in goes much deeper than that in my view ok but john i mean i gree with michael here why why not tell you let me go to john what is the u.s. doing there in light of what we just heard from michael here wouldn't it be better if the u.s. is completely were to use it you're right it could be a civil war but it's going to be the folks on the ground they're going to decide the outcome because the u.s. and its allies can't determine any outcome but it wants yes and we should be clear to us after thirteen years now of fumbling around and screwing things up the united states presence there can only do worse for the country of afghanistan we will continue to push militants into the safe areas in pakistan we need to get out and get out yesterday in complete and total i mean a full withdrawal not a semi withdrawal with ten thousand troops plus j. sock and bases for drones we are not going to improve the situation through the militarism that has been the case over the over more than a decade now. i hate to bring up the cliched phrase of trying the same thing over and over ag

just a pashtoon issue it goes because in goes much deeper than that in my view ok but john i mean i gree with michael here is why why don't you let me go to john what is the u.s. doing there in light of what we just heard from michael here wouldn't it be better if the u.s. is completely were to use it you're right it could be a civil war but it's going to be the folks on the ground they're going to decide the outcome because the u.s. and its allies can't determine any outcome but it wants yes and we should be clear to us after thirteen years now of fumbling around and screwing things up the united states presence there can only do worse for the country of afghanistan we will continue to push militants into the same sure as in pakistan we need to get out and get out yesterday in complete and total i mean a full withdrawal not a semi withdrawal with ten thousand troops plus j. sock and bases for drones we are not going to improve the situation through the militarism that has been the case over the over more than a decade now. i hate to bring up the cliched phrase of trying the same thing over and over

john loftus. deputy chief michael beal. deputy chief tomakia, my boss and the chief gregory pesir.and not least the mayor of city and county of san francisco, ed lee. first i would like to start with vice president turman and president mazzucco to say a few words for you. >> thank you very much, inspector monroe, distinguished guests. tonight i ask my vice president turman to be present, because he actually participated in the selection of these awards. on behalf of the police commission i want to congratulate the officers and their families. we have had a busy week at the san francisco police department, on friday night we graduated 46 brand-new officers from the 235th recruit class, and during my speech to the officers, i talked about being courageous. you are courageous. i talked about becoming san francisco's finest. you are san francisco's finest. on tuesday we had a promotion ceremony and another speech speaking to officers and commanders and i spoke to them about their role and what is expected of them training the next generation of san francisco's finest. and during that i

reid, the senate democratic leader, nancy pelosi the house minority leader and house speaker john boehner. michaela? >> what is the sense among your sources at the white house and those people you speak with at the white house off camera even? is there a real concern we're headed for a debt default right now or is the feeling as it is on wall street, it's a little scary but eventually we'll come to an agreement at the 11th hour? >> i think had ultimately, hala, everyone thinks they will come to an agreement at the 11th hour. why is that? because they have to. that's what people will tell you, they have to. because if they don't, the economic ramifications would be huge. but when it copies sometimes to the progress, it's really unclear. that's why we're sort of hanging on to every little movement to see if there is that progress. there is real concern here that we could move towards a default. over the weekend, things seemed kind of doom and gloom, not a lot of movement. we saw republican plans rejected in the senate and the house. so i think there is concern, but we're also told these discussions

an outstanding performance for michael logger and john lackey, striking out. did his work. mistakes did he and the red socks in. >> a change of fortune, cardinals were sloppy in the senth innings, the red sox being sloppy. >> as you mentioned in your highlights. you saw the play where the red sox committed two errors on the play allowing two runs to score. gerald wasn't able to throw out two guys on a double steam. it was the red sox turn to implode. >> we do head to st louis over the weekend. john henry smith live at fenway park, in boston, the world series tied at one game apiece. >> there was a special moment in the seventh inning at the world series when james taylor came out to sing "america the beautiful" and he had survivors of the boston marathon bombing standing with him ♪ beautiful ♪ gracious skies ♪ forever... >>>>. >>> the red sox honoured the victims and survivors several times. three people were killed when 260 were wounded in the boston bombing. kevin has the weather after this. >>> hello again. tonight's game at fenway park was the third coldest in world ser

michael, i disagree slightly. i do think with the president and now harry reid start to do it, i think the target is going to be slowly surely maybe quickly turning to john boehner. "time" magazine michael scherer, thank you. leaders are holding a news conference on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid has discussed speaker boehner's role in the standoff. he did that a minute ago. lets take a listen. >> we can't perform the basic government because he doesn't have the courage to stand up to the small band of anarchist. >> more than 100 vow to give up salaries during the government shutdown. when you're not doing your job and the cause of the crisis, do you really deserve a paycheck in the first place? that's next. [ male announcer ] this one goes out to all the allergy muddlers. you know who you are. you can part a crowd, without saying a word... if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts... well muddlers, muddle no more. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour one on the first day you take it. claritin® d

michael rubin, john batchelor, we appreciate it. >>> now, very controversial new op-ed says members ofress manipulate the entire legislative order in terms of getting money from lobbyists and donors. that's right. the man who wrote the op-ed, peter schweitzer is about to join us and tell us how to make money in washington. >>> brand-new bombshell investigation reveals how washington's underground economy really works. politicians extort money from you and me, then they use it to buy each other's votes. that may be a little simplistic, but there is a lot of evidence. here now to reveal the dark side of d.c. is peter schweizer. he is the author of the new book "extortion: how politicians extract your money, buy votes and line their own pockets." welcome back, peter. >> thank you, larry. >> what is a tollbooth? >> a tollbooth is basically a method of charging people for a congressional leader to perform their duties. so for example, the speaker of the house, whether it's nancy pelosi or john boehner, a vote for a bill comes out of a committee. it needs to be scheduled for the full house f

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michael wacha and john lackey. >>> stan got tickets to the cardinals. i got tickets to the rams.s how the rams almost did it here. this is the final play of the game. a touchdown wins it. kellen clemens. seattle, holds on. wins it. 14-9. >> listen, i'm not vince lombardi. but i was begging for a bootleg there. i think he walks in on a bootleg. then again, i'm sitting here at the desk, with a tie on. >> and a lot of makeup. >> had to point that out. >> oh, yeah. >>> something of a reversal of rules in this next story. that's why it's our "play of the day." this happened on a deep sea fishing trip. >> the guy in the seat has a big marlin on the line. as it's jumping out of the water, you can tell, it's in no mood to be caught. >> the marlin jumps into the boat. that crew member, trying to get away. forced to jump in the water. one more time. whoa. >> that is crazy. >> i love how we do these stories and talk about the people in the boat. what about that poor marlin? he can't breathe. he's dying. and we're worried about the guy in the water. >> man, oh, man. >>> up next, "the pulse."

airstrikes before an international deal was reached to dismantle syria's to michael arsenal. john kerry and other diplomats are meeting with syrian opposition meetings -- readers today in london. in nevada, student opened fire as sparks middle school monday, killing a math teacher and wounding two fellow students. the unidentified shooter then killed himself. alisa the teacher, michael lance perry, was try to protect students. the news came the same day attorney general eric holder said the average number of mass shootings in the united states has tripled since 2009. speaking to a conference of police chiefs, holders of the of fivetates on average active shooter incidents every year between 2000 and 2008, compared to at least 12 so far this year. in a less reported shooting the detroit, two women were killed at a seniors home sunday on the cities outside. in new jersey, republican governor chris christie has dropped the state's legal challenge against same-sex marriage. his decision monday morning came just hours after same-sex couples in new jersey again marrying at midnight. on

this is a final passage, but the senators who voted against literature are, john cornyn, senatorcrapo's cruise, michael lee, rand paul, rubio, shelby, to me, and senator better. are democrats line. caller: i will first say thank you to our wonderful president and harry reid. i would like to thank those on the house side who have done an excellent job standing their ground. i disagree with the last caller on modifying obamacare and shutting down the government. run forsee why people government to shut government down. all these teddy cruises, the rubio's, the people who voted against this bill, i do not understand why they are serving in government if they are against the government. i think we need to look at the laws that are in place that allow our government to be hijacked by a few who are not looking at the bigger picture. i just think we need to step back and take a look at the gerrymandering. the people don't trust us and we did it to ourselves. thank you. this is final passage on the senate floor. she talked a bit about the health care law. art of it when asked for income verification for those

and, by the way, as as lee was his deathbed, he called john sasso, michael dukakis' campaign manager,overnor dukakis talked to you about how that conversation with him and lee atwater? >> well, it was with john sasso, atwater's counterpart. and remember, you might recall, that as he was dying, he -- >> right. >> he made a round of calls to people that he had damaged unfairly, because his whole strategy in all of his campaigns was to pound on people personally. >> and you know, people don't remember, i did not remember this, but bill clinton got in trouble racially for some of his, whether it was ricky ray rector, or the sister souljah moment. clinton got less of the black vote than dukakis did. it dips down to like 84%, which is a low number in the modern democratic party. and there's still people on the left, not just people on the left, but there are people who distrust bill clinton, because he learned a little bit of that, of how to sort of sing to that choir. >> again, the derisive name for clinton was bubba, but he did get the bubba vote the democrats had not been getting in the

the pitching match up and john lakey going against michael waka, at the world series in st.>> reporter: three high ranking officials from the aton doping agency arrived in jamaica to look at the drug testing program after allegations that the athletes have not been properly tested in the lead up to last year's olympics and the record leader is one of a lot of athletes who failed drug tests this year. and the president john faye threatened a ban for the country at the 2016 rio olympics if the doping controls do not improve. and a winning return at the masters after a doping ban and 9 month suspension for using a ban stimulate to four months. the court of arbitration said he could face egor on monday and 1-3 set. and they slipped to world number 47. >> i felt like a kid playing for the first time tennis and i would say the feeling was amazing just to be back on the court, to be competing and i enjoyed every moment on the court and i was just my thoughts were just on the things that how much i'm enjoying and how i'm happy to be back on the course. >> reporter: the man in charge

. >>> opening statements are just minutes away in the trial of michael jackson. >> knx 1070's john barrythe courthouse in downtown l.a. >> on september 27th, 2011, conrad murray, michael jackson's doctor, would go on trial. >> if seats become available, you're on standby. >> outside the los angeles criminal courthouse jackson's international stardom took center stage. inside courtroom 107 a jury of seven men and five women took their seats. hln's ryan smith was watching. >> this is the death of michael jackson. and it's not just that he's a famous star. it's that someone lost their son. you know, their brother, their father. >> district attorney david walgren laid out the prosecution's case. >> michael jackson trusted his life to the medical skills of conrad murray. that misplaced trust in the hands of conrad murray cost michael jackson his life. >> to help prove their case prosecutors presented two very different portraits of the pop legend. ♪ from a vibrant singer, dancer and entertainer on stage to a completely different person behind the scenes. >> to michael jackson -- >> then midwa

michael isikoff. and eugene o'donnell, professor of law and police study at john jay college of criminal justice. michael, as we await this briefing, what do we know about this woman, and how did it all start? >> well, first of all, we have not -- we are not using her name right now because -- until police say so. we're not going to report her name. but she is a 34-year-old woman who lived in connecticut. and police are searching her home. what possible motivation she had at this point we don't know. obviously, there are going to be questions about whether there was any kind of mental health problems in her background just as there was with the washington navy yard shooter. but i think what's significant at this point, which nbc news was the first to report here, is she did not fire any shots in this incident. all the shots came from law enforcement. she did not have a gun. >> she was unarmed? >> she was unarmed. now, that doesn't mean that the police who fired the shots were unjustified in doing -- >> hold on one minute, michael. let's go live to the press briefing. we'll come back to you, michae

. >> my question is why is it that in the end, the house members sided with michael an not john boehner? >> they didn't. >> it was what the american people wanted rather than john boehner. >> our score card is the most transparent out there. you can go to heritageaction.com. here is what we think is important, and here is how we voted. >> you do more than a website, you'll go door to door in a primary campaign and push your score card. >> yes, every single day of the year and make sure people know about the information out there. >> but what -- the point is that if somebody voted for the boehner bill over your objections, you would go door to door in his district and say congressman so and so voted -- n voting records. >> why is obama care such a fundamental issue? >> at the point where the federal government has a right to intrude into a relationship between a patient and doctor, there is no longer any part of our lives that the federal government doesn't have a right to be in. health care decisions should not be made by bureaucrats. >> the wall street journal says the republican party

wednesday night, it's game six of the world series, michael wacha, 4-0 this postseason, against johnkey who was good last night, good in game two as we're back at fenway park. our pregame coverage begins on fox sports 1 at 7:00 eastern followed at 7:30 eastern here on fox, as we lead you up to the first pitch of game six. for more coverage of game five tonight, including live press conferences and clubhouse access, please turn to fox sports 1 for "fox sports live." coming up on fox except on the west coast, it's your local news. red sox win tonight game five in the books, game six on wednesday night. [son] all right,she has no idea. [man] no one told her,right? [son]hi! [mom screams] complete bay area news coverage starts right now. this is ktvu channel 2 news. >> today, we got our first look inside assisted living facility where elderly patients were allegedly abandoned, some bed-ridden and in wheelchairs. i'm ken wayne. frank somerville is off tonight. >> welcome to this special edition of ktvu news following game 5 of the world series. world that many staff members had left days b

capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, also nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff and johns, i would like to start with you, you have been very vocal about this issue and you and others are concerned about other benefits that vets are expected that could be impacted by the shutdown. >> we've had over 9,000 veterans contact us and check our box in our e-mail operation specifically saying they are affected by the shutdown. it's a variety offish y isfis ff there's a natural disaster, the national guard can't respond. we have veterans who lost an arm or leg in vietnam or iraq or afghanistan, in two weeks won't get benefits anymore. what happens to retiree benefits. you heard general shinseki testify, he's been very vocal about the backrepublicans in congress put a lot of pressure about the claims that have happened through ptsd or agent orange and these backlogs and claims are going way up. there's a tremendous amount of issues. the only way to fix the issueses towelfy fund the entire government immediately. veterans are affected by all departments. >> kelly, this "wall street

john. >> with me now is distinguished former attorney general michael mukasey. heard him it's an act of war. >> it was like the old john flannery that i used to know. it was hog wash then and it is hog wash now. there is no rule of international law that obligates us to be sitting ducks. if they won't control what's going on there or won't control people who are killing our people and attacking our embassies we can do something about it. what about t fact that this guy was summoned in 2000 and has been living openly in the last two years in tripoli. we know where he was. does he get advised of his miranda rights? he is a defendant in a civilian criminal trial. >> he is now aboard a ship. as i understand it from your report, they are not in any big hurry to get it back here. we have to keep it for a couple of weeks and try to de brief it. >> you try to de brief him he says i am not talking. >> he says i am not talking then you have to talk. we have done away with the cia interrogation which we had ways of getting people to talk that were perfectly legal that didn'

. >> john lackey, they send out rookie michael w acha. no game for the ravens on sunday.ot due back in owings mills monday. the team held a practice before all the players were allowed to go their separate ways. ravens 3-4 on the year, coming off two straight losses to the packers and steelers. players and coaches are not happy. and as wjz has shown you, neither of the fans. coach john harbaugh reminds everyone, it is a long season. >> you hit tough stretches every year in football. there's no guarantee. this is tough. and there's no guarantee this year. but we had done pretty well over the last five years. going back to work. dealing with the things that we need to correct. overcoming adversity. -- the a tough league. we're right in the middle of the pack right now. >> ravens are two games behind the bengals in the division. next game is in cleveland, november 3rd, against the browns. i'm jessica kartalija. back to you. >> some players head back to their hometowns during their time off. >> just as many will remain in baltimore and work out and receive treatment. and we'l

michael corleone. nothing. that's where the democrats are because they've made the deal already. ralph, i'm not in your party. and i really don't feel for john boehner that he can't lead his party. that's his problem. he's a leader. in my party what harry reid was doggone difficult. he got democrats and a socialist to agree to republican levels of spending on programs that democrats really really care about. they essentially signed onto the paul ryan levels of spending on all the things that they care about. helping children, helping women, helping the disabled, helping education. that was really really hard to do. so now now boehner has to do something hard. he has to deliver. he has to reopen the government and he has to pay our bills. and then we can go back to legislating which is the give and take you're talking about. there's lots of things you could propose to change in obama care. democrats want to have a gun safety bill. we don't have the votes for it. we didn't shut down the government over that even though

. >> he's a regular on the program now, michael shure from los angeles. >>> john terrett has been athe stock exchange. walk us through this day i. >> they have never doubted there would be a deal. the dow joins at 205 points, 15,373.83, and the s&p market also hit 713% and nasdaq by 1.2%. it opened by roaring away by 80 points. climbed as high as 200 and fell to 145 and closed over 200. this was wall street saying look washington, d.c. we've had it with you. we don't care any more. we've been through this. we know what your shenanigans are all about. and basically this rally that you've seen is a message to washington to say this is what you should have done two weeks ago. >> sure, let's pick up on the idea of shenanigans. how has the u.s. economy been affected by the shenanigans? >> reporter: a lot, this has cost the economy $22 billion. think of all those who have been furloughed, they haven't been spending. when they get their back pay they'll spend in a different way. that's an opportunity lost. you've also got short-term interest rates very skyrocketed to their 2008 level recent

michael? >> thank you. >> good to see john. >> one of the things republicans are talking about, though, they want to reform entitlement programs, that includes in their view, social security, medicare, medicaid. >> a lot of people are saying, entitlement is a dirty word. it's not entitlement, per se. >>> the partial government shutdown is also preventing folks from visiting some of american war memorials over seas. this is the american memorial cemetery. this is near the normandy landing beaches in france. well, it is closed. >> you see there the gates are locked, a message of the bar says the cemetery is closed until the shutdown ends. you see this message actually at every u.s. memorial cemetery and monument overseas today and that is a lot of places. >> american burial grounds are located in ten countries. they are the final resting place for about 125,000 u.s. servicemen and women. >>> the shutdown has wide ranging effects all over the country. of course, it is especially hurting food producers. >> how the fishing industry and citrus growers are feeling about that. and how they're feeling it,

. >> i guess my question is why is it in the end the house sided with michael needham and not john boehner with the american people. they sided with millions of constituents. people can go to heritageaction.com and say here are the votes we think are important, why we think they're important and how your member of congress voted. >> you did more than just put out a website. you'll go door to door during a primary campaign and push your score card. >> we'll go door-to-door every day of the year and make sure people know about -- >> i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. the point is if somebody voted for the boehner bill over your objections and you said it was a no, you'll go door to door in his district and say, hey, congressman so and so voted. >> we'll go door to door and explain people's voting record. >> there's a lot of issues out there. why do you see obama care as such a fundamental issue? >> i think at the point when the federal government has the right to intrude on a relationship between its patient and doctor, there's no part of our lives that the federal government doe

. >> but my question is, why is it in the end that the house members sided with michael needham and not john>> they didn't. they sided with the american people. >> well, they sided with what your view of what the american people wanted rather than john boehner's view. >> they sided with millions of constituents. our scorecard is the most transparent scorecard out there. people can go to heritageaction.com. here's the votes that are important and here's how your member of congress voted. >> but you did more than just put out a website. you'll go door to door during a primary campaign and push your scorecard, correct? >> we've went door to door every single day of the year and make sure that people know about the information that's out there. >> and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but the point is, if somebody had voted for the boehner bill over your objections and you would say it's a no, you'll go door to door in his district and say, hey, congressman so-and-so voted -- >> we're going to go door to door and explain people's voting records and explain tough questions. >> there

the red sox scored six runs off cardinals rookie ace michael wacha and enough for john lackey pitchingnnings of one-run baseball and the red sox won the game 6-1 and third world series title in ten years. after one of the most memorable postseason performances ever, big papi was the mvp of the world series and you can make the argument he is the mvp of the entire city of boston. >> reporter: there is something about big papi and boston and it's more than just the incredible stats and the paternal nickname. >> he's a great leader. when he speaks, everyone listens. he just gets you moftivated and great for the fans overall. >> he rises to the occasion. i mean, he is really cool and calm. >> a great person outside of the field. he is a symbol of the commute. >> reporter: david ortiz is the face of the franchise that has transformed before our eyes. no longer is the red sox known as a team mired in an 86-year championship drought and know world champions for the third time in daek aecade and ortiz i big reason why. >> david relish the moment and wants to be the guy people look toward. >> r

michael kors. >> first of all, john, give simon the address of one of the discount stores, he needs a new suit. [r ] secondly, the thing i'd say is the price tag has come down. it's still to me a door story. i like it. i am worried about the core, though, given the apparel. >> tell us who you think won the debate. use #bull or #bear. we'll give you the results at the end of the show. >>> hard to believe there are only 48 days left until christmas. if the recent numbers are any indication, the retailers will be sweating it out big time. they're here to break down the stocks to watch or avoid. the new co-heads of the consumer group, michael benetty, michael lassar. mr. benett imt, you got the tougher job, clearly with your coverage universe, mostly apparel name, which doesn't seem to be building up that well toward the holidays. how good will it be in. >> the mall traffic has sounded fairly sluggish. you're right. so far, michael seems to cover with the consumers, and you have the lulus and the michael kors,s that are a must-have. but there's not really a clear must-have product. there's been slugg

democratic governor john hickenlooper he's saying to groups like michael bloomberg's don't come to thetate, we don't need outside money. does outside money do more harm than good, do you think? >> i think what it comes down to is votes. outside money can help. mayors against illegal guns has been pretty powerful playing in congressional districts trying to change the dynamic so that the people who are elected are people who are going to make sensible decisions about who can have access to guns. and until those numbers change in congress, it doesn't look like anything is going to happen in terms of changing the laws. >> you know, joe, susan phillips, who lost her daughter in the aurora, colorado, shooting is part of the group moms demand action. she attended a small rally near the alamo demonstration. here's what she said. >> nobody is trying to take anybody's guns away from them, nobody. they're trying to pass sensible gun laws, like expanded background checks. >> so, joe, why hasn't this been a winning argument here for gun control advocates? >> i think gun control advocates want the

john, thanks for your insight. >>> more fallout regarding the united states surveillance overseas. michael isikoff reports it involves the mass collection of phone calls in spain by the nsa. the story will be on tomorrow's front page of the spanish newspaper "el mundo" and it comes again from edward snowden. newly released records show 60 million phone calls were collected in spain in just one month last december. >>> a manhunt is under way tonight after another jailbreak in the news. this one in oklahoma. officials say four inmates are on the run after pulling off an escape that reads like a movie plot. charles hadlock is outside the jail in oklahoma tonight. charles? >> reporter: good evening, lester. while authorities are searching a large part of western oklahoma for the four escapees, there are questions tonight about how they got out of a brand new jail. the escape happened in the overnight hours at the brand new caddo county detention center in oklahoma. they were housed together in a jail pod with 16 inmates and two showers. the men climbed through a small trap door above one of th

michael medved. he has a radio show and we have with us also joining us john avlon executive editor of "the daily beastholt joining us. let me start with you, michael. when i look at the situation it's gotten a little confusing, right? the g.o.p. comes out no deal. then they say we're going into conference. you know and talk about this tomorrow. but let's not shut the government down. and democrats say no. republicans are stages a revolt. how much damage has the g.o.p. done to itself? >> let me tell you, erin i was looking at the coverage on cnn. there are the beautiful shots of the capitol dome lit it night. this is profiles in crazy. and there is so much blame to go around and the american people are universally disgutted with the democrats and republicans and tea party and establishment and president obama. and to me, that is the biggest missed opportunity here. the president this afternoon instead of repeating i'm not going to negotiate could have said, you know what, i want harry reid and john boehner and mitch mcconnell to all come into the oval office and let's work this out. everyone says we do