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you can get that opinion there we cover heterodox opinions and we've talked to this guy john miller ackerman who is heterodox thinker he doesn't think he thinks outside the mainstream the mainstream is of course neo liberal economics and nafta and all that stuff is greed and everything's great for the mexican worker and he said a different opinion was just speaking to a different opinion who i don't even know while the candidates are in mexico how it might even like it have any say in what's happening there yeah there is a lot of news stories in mexico right now claiming that max kaiser the kaiser report is interfering with the mexican election and i can prove that propaganda is false very very simply not a single mexican journalist try to contact me for a comment i was recently in mexico city for the express purpose of talking to journalists about this allegation contacted me so this is pure. propaganda which uses symbols and they use catch phrases and they in the rush is a hot mean right now to smear anyone who's trying to do an honest living and therefore they whip that out and the masses

you can get that opinion there we cover heterodox opinions and we've talked to this guy john miller ackerman who is heterodox thinker he doesn't think he thinks outside the mainstream the mainstream is of course neo liberal economics and nafta and all that stuff is greed and everything's great for the mexican worker and he said a different opinion but it's just speaking to a different opinion who i don't even know while the candidates are in mexico how it might even like it have any say in what's happening there yeah there is a lot of news stories in mexico right now claiming that max kaiser the kaiser report is interfering with the mexican election and i can prove that propaganda and false very very simply not a single mexican journalist try to contact me for a comment i was recently in mexico city for the express purpose of talking to journalists about this allegation contacted me so this is pure. propaganda which uses symbols and they use catch phrases and they in the rush is a hot mean right now to smear anyone who's trying to do an honest living and therefore they whip that out and the

you can get that opinion there we cover heterodox opinions and we've talked to this guy john miller ackerman who is heterodox thinker he doesn't think he thinks outside the mainstream the mainstream is of course neo liberal economics and nafta and all that stuff is greed and everything is great for the mexican worker and he said a different opinion but just speaking to a different opinion who i don't even know while the candidates are in mexico how it might even like it have any say in what's happening there yeah there is a lot of news stories in mexico right now claiming that max kaiser the kaiser report is interfering with the mexican election and i can prove that propaganda and false very very simply not a single mexican journalists try to contact me for a comment i was recently in mexico city for the express purpose of talking to journalists about this allegation contacted me so this is pure. again i would use the symbols and they use catch phrases and they in russia is a hot mean right now to smear anyone who's trying to do an honest living and therefore they whip that out and the masse

meet the needs of most americans. >> so bloomberg has some slightly different reporting, john kelly and steven miller may have a hardline stance on immigration, but that kelly didn't push trump to reject chuck schumer's proposal. but what john kelly does do is control information and people that get to see the president. and the president was largely on his own this weekend. and when i've spoken to people inside the white house they're saying right now i don't have access to the president. so if he wants to call me and have me step in here, he's welcome to, but john kelly's running the show. >> that's right, stephanie, there are a few different variations of the story and there are certainly some who believe that steven miller and john kelly are in the words of one source i spoke to kindred spirits on the issue of immigration. steven miller we know former senate aide he was an individual who has single mindedly determined to scuttle bipartisan deals like the gang of eight. he's a hard liner and president trump is conflicted between that instinct that he represents that helped him win the republican n

is. >> john kelly was the homeland security secretary, steven milleranted john kelly to have more control particularly over refugees on some immigration issues because he trusted him. they were allies in some ways and he said i would prefer for john kelly to have more control than rex tillerson or other secretaries. john kelly and stephen miller are both pushing the president to hold firm and make a tougher deal and really try to get -- get parts of a deal that are tough on immigration but the president himself is more flexible. >> josh dawsey, thank you so much for joining us. you probably published three stories while you were on tv with us. >> thanks for having me. >>> thousands of federal employees will not be going to work this morning. the government shutdown has not closed every federal program and agency after first announcing it was not sure how long it would stay open. the smithsonian found a way to stay open using prior year funds. joining me now the national museum, renee marsh. what are you hearing. >> reporter: this could be very confusin

miller as well. this is from "esquire." president johnresident stephen miller. >> take your choice. >> how damning are these headlines? tune they're damning for miller or john kelley? >> they definitely are. i think john kelley is in trouble with the president. he thinks of him as a scold, he keeps him from having fun. there's a report out tonight in ""vanity fair"" by xwaib sherman who has great sources in the white house and conservative media that ivanka is looking for a john kelley replacement. i think these headlines about president kelley or president miller undermine both of them. we know one of the reasons the president got sick of steve bannon was the perception that bannon was running the show. he does not like that. and given he already has tension with kelley, i think that's tough. he seems to like steve miller, he seems to -- they seem to have some kind of affinity. i don't really know what it is. but he and kelley kind of chafe, but he and miller are more comfortable. >> "time" magazine ran a thing that said, the most import

you refer to him as president stephen miller as well. president john kellily. from esquire. how damming are the headlines? for miller ob john kelly? >> they are. john kelly is already in trouble with the president. he thinks of him as a scold. he thinks he keeps him from having fun. there's a report out tonight in vanity fair. who has great sources in the white house and con seshtive need ya. that ivanka is out locking for a kelly replacement. the headlines about president kelly or miller under mine them. we know the president one of the reasons he got sib of bannon was the perception that bannon was running the show. he doesn't like that. given he has tension with kelly. that's tough. he likes steve miller. they seem to have affinity. i don't know what it is. he and kelly chafe. >> if time magazine ran a thing that said the most important person this washington for kelly or miller. that would be the end. >> that would be the end for kelly. miller might get a talking to. and lay low. >> who influences president trurp the most? the person who has his ear last? this administrat

remember when trump used to be his own publicist going by the name of john barren or john miller and calling up tabloids to brag about himself? like in 1991 when his marriage with marla maples was ending. >> he treats everybody well. you don't know him, but he's a -- >> no, i have met him. >> have you met him? he's a good guy and he's not going hurt anybody. the one article said he was going to throw her out out of the apartment is total nonsense. >>> there is a consistent and alarming pattern in michael wolff's new book on the trump presidency in which the people closest to donald trump describe him as someone in no way capable of carrying out the duties of the presidency. in the book wolff writes about the feelings of trump's campaign advisers. quote, not only would truch not be would trump not be president, almost everyone in the campaign greed he should probably not be. once trump assumed office even his administration mocked his intelligence. list went on. quotes e-mail, author not confirmed, appears to sum up sentiment in much of the white house. quote. worse than you can imagi

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and cameras missing like they keep her to say but i'd rather not be around i think we're ready john miller the department's deputy commissioner of intelligence and counterterrorism says eisel is more focused on attacks in the west as it loses ground in places like iraq and syria the shift has been towards marketing the propaganda to the masses on the idea that some tiny tiny infant testimony percentage of them may act so may go out to millions or hundreds of thousands of people but a five of them do something if three of them succeed or one of them it's a great impact what the terrorist groups are focused on is low tech low cost but high impact n.y.p.d. patrol officers and special ops teams are the first line of defense this year more will be stationed on roofs and in hotels and nearby parking garages will be closed . police will also be using more dogs trained to sniff out someone carrying explosives in the crowd this is actually where the ball is going to drop behind the scenes at the n.y.p.d. joint operation center they will also be watching the crowds for suspicious behavior how many c

how are these headlines for stephen miller and john kelly's future? 's some reporting that general kelly is looking for the exit which i would not blame him. he's an american hero and deserves our respect. mr. miller, slightly less of a hero. he's a 32-year-old guy, worked on the hill. that's fine. i never saw steve bannon overruled the president like this. the president sat down. we all saw it on national television. it was remarkable meeting. he sat in the cabinet room. >> tuesday meeting. >> senator dianne feinstein said would you sign a clean daca bill. allow the dreamers to stay with nothing else attached. no strings attached. let me read you what he said. he said yes and then move to phase two which would be come prehencive immigration reform but i think we need to do daca first. that's the president making a deal until steve miller overruled it. it's unprecedented. >> the idea that stephen miller, who i really respect. >> that makes one of us. >> that he's the pup -- >> i said respect steve miller. >> i don't loik like a staff guy overruling the

>> because steven miller and john kelly have had tremendous influence over the president. i've spoken to people inside the white house, senior advisers to the president who said he had a deal with chuck schumer on friday. and before that, remember president trump telling dianne feinstein, i'd sign a clean bill. we want a bill with heart. then you have john kelly and steven miller with their hard-line stance roadblocking things. well, guess what, you may have seen a compromise today. but mitch mcconnell is in the hot seat, because he has said, trust me, i'm going to deliver. look at the polls fox news is putting out. the majority of the american people want a resolution for the d.r.e.a.m.ers, and the issue that the president faces is the information that he has from steven miller, from john kelly, this hard-leine stance is not fact based. and the president is putting himself in a corner. when you look at the ad sponsored by a trump campaign team saying supporting illegal immigrants, not good citizens, it's not a fact. these aren't criminals. the 21 people who were arrested

representative bob goodlatte, and the two people who seem to be acting as copresidents, steven miller and john kelley. and trump simply does not want to alienate that base. and he's blown up a deal that was right there for the making. he is unable, i think, to understand the whole nature of w you make deals in governance, which are not the same as making deals in real estate. >> and he has -- again, around this table, talking about an immigration bill full of love. he wanted it to be a good bill for these dream e.r.e.a.m.ers. and he's proudly nonideological. on many issues he says he's nonideological, he wants to make the best deals possible. how is it he has as you said gotten hijacked by the hard liners on this? >> i think he's the most ideological nonideological politician in history. i think the problem with trump is he always postures in the direction of the crowd or the individual that happens to be in front of him. he tends to agree with the last person he talks to, that's widely reported. and in the campaign, he succeeded in having it both ways. to americans who are simply upset that w

and then steven miller and john kelly got involved. then we were reminded while the president is the author of "the art of the deal," he's also the man behind trump mortgage, trump casino, trump steak, trump vodka, trump magazine, trump airlines. you know what ul those things h in common, they were all shut down. >> this president appeared to be missing in action over the course of the weekend. largely holed up in the residence with some stops in the west wing where we saw pictures of him gathering with some of his aides, making phone calls. huckabee sanders this morning saying the different moments call for different elements of leadership. this is the man who cast himself as the ultimate deal maker. they say he's been engaged with calls. those calls have been exclusively to republicans. just an hour before mitch mcconnell spoke on the senate floor, the president's only tweet was praising a fox news -- a man on fox news, a commentator, for giving him an "a" for his -- well, an "a" for the job he's done this past year. that's what the

lindsey graham and jeff flake have walked away, then they had to deal with john kelly and steven miller no deal. so john kelly is the new president. power. they should be negotiating with them. and donald trump. >> what should you make of this? donald trump seems to it be nice guy. i'll sign anything. bring in the bill of law. somehow those people leave the room. and his position flips. chuck schumer calls it jell-o. >> you can't trust what he's saying. but joe made a very important point, yes, this is the anniversary of president trump being inaugurated as 45th president of the united states. and if you look at the first year successes he's had once in a generation tax cut, booming economy, record low unemployments. if you think about what happened if senator clinton got to the one year mark, my friends would be in south dakota chiselling her image into mount rushmore. >> what are you saying? >> i'm saying this is a fantastic first year. >> fantastic first year. he's mired in russian scandal. >> this is fantastic record. knocking isis. >> he has barack obama. >> make your point on the

. >> do you think stephen miller and john kelly will blow this up. >> i think there are certain members in the house and senate that won't go with it, i think there are certain aides in the house that won't go along with this. what matters is whether the president is. that doesn't matter in terms of the senate process, but it does matter in terms of the house process. i think he'll find a way to do it. >> senator jefflake, thank you for running over here tonight. richard lui if you're still on the other side there, i'm going to toss it back to you. i know you and i share michigan, but i have to throw in a fly eagles fly, i missed it at the end of my hour. >> what a night, kassie, i appreciate it. host of kcdc. let's bring in garett hague, who's also covering the story for us. and jeff bill. >> i want to start with you garrett, what's your reflection, you were doing the play by play as i was watching you on air the last two days. is this a step forward based on what you saw from mcconnell just within the last hour? >> it absolutely is a step forward. even the speech from mcconnell alone

then you have fairly hard-line stuff in the white house, stephen miller and john kelly say no, this iswe need. then you have people like cotton and purdue. then you have jeff flake and lindsey green, they shouldn't be regarded as republicans in this negotiation. they are basically democrats on this issue. they are completely in keeping with dick durbin and the others. the idea that the original bill was bipartisan was a fantasy. it's a very difficult issue. >> difficult but doable. >> bret: senator graham, jonas email is... >> what happens in the green room stays in the green room. >> bret: next up, the vice president in israel. strong emotions on the number of things. stay with us. not just airline purchases. think about all the double miles you could be earning. (yelling) holy moly, that's a lot of miles! shh-h-h-h! ( ♪ ) shh! what's in your wallet? man: shh-h-h! when you have a cold, shh! stuff happens. ♪ { sneezing ] shut down cold symptoms fast [ coughing ] with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. >> our administration will advance its plan to open the united states em

as a kid, i came up watching espn every night joe morgan, john miller.r watching with my mother every night on sunday night. my mother, my brother, my sister and now to be a big part of it, so excited. >> but you're working for espn and fox at the same time i want to be clear on this they know this they're aware? >> i think they do, yes. major league baseball, we're in a very special time. the industry from a health point of view is at a $10 billion clip that's compared to $1 billion when i first entered in 1994 from rob manford to tony, great leadership but our young players are wonderful. our job as analysts is to come out and reveal these great personalities and essentially remove the helmets and talk about what great character these young men are as well. >> let's talk about character. last question, we spoke about this with the last guest as well biggest money mistake. i think i might know yours i wonder if it's the steroid usage and you mention all the money you lost because of that but what do you consider to be your biggest money mistake going al

. >> do you think stephen miller and john kelly will blow this up. >> i think there are certain members in the house and senate that won't go with it, i think there are certain aides in the house that won't go along with this. what matters is whether the president is. that doesn't matter in terms of the senate process, but it does matter in terms of the house process. i think he'll find a way to do it. >> senator jeff flake, thank you for running over here tonight. richard lui if you're still on the other side there, i'm going to toss it back to you. i know you and i share michigan, but i have to throw in a fly eagles fly, i missed it at the end of my hour. >> what a night, kassie, i appreciate it. host of kcdc. let's bring in garett hague, who's also covering the story for us. and jeff bill. >> i want to start with you garrett, what's your reflection, you were doing the play by play as i was watching you on air the last two days. is this a step forward based on what you saw from mcconnell just within the last hour? >> it absolutely is a step forward. even the speech from mcconnell alon

. >> and can a government run by donald trump, john kelly and stephen miller actually do the right thing on daca? >> this is an amazing moment. >>> and the massive resistance takes to the streets. >> shame, shame, shame! >> rebecca traister and linda on the women's marches across america, when "all in" starts right now. >> this is what democracy looks like! >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. after three days, the government shutdown is ending. the government's back open for business, at least for now. a majority of senate democrats today signed on to a deal to fund the government for another three weeks in exchange for a promise to vote on protections for dreamers if lawmakers cannot reach a broader immigration deal by the time that funding runs out. >> should these issues not be resolved by the time the funding bill before us expires on february 8th, so long as the government remains open, so long as the government remains open, it would be my intention to take up legislation here in the senate that would address daca, border security, and related issues. >> democrats are w

i think stephan miller and john kelly have now entered the danger zone, becays even if he it - becauseis philosophically consistent of where they are, he never wants to be seen in public that someone will tell him what to do. those the death curse for bannon. ross is on the plank. certainly, i would wager -- though i could be wrong -- that will cause a rift with trump. although they do not seem trying to be out front, which is interesting. tim: they publicly said trump will leave a wall behind. scarlet: and his position -- tim: right. pretty much in the same place were both kelly and miller are. that is not the most important thing yet. the most important thing is that he seems to be the man in charge. scarlet: tim o'brien. we appreciate your time. coming up, difficult coalitions outside of the u.s. angela merkel has a familiar ally after the democrats voted super zoom -- resume talks with the german chancellor faces a tough path ahead. from new york, this is bloomberg. ♪ scarlet:w good news for europe -- what'd you miss? good news for europe. they voted to end things talks with chance

you mentioned steve miller and kelly, it's like they're two whispering in his ear to donald trump's othello. we know how badly that turned out. >> do you think the chief of staff, john kelly, shares the views of steven miller on immigration? do you think he shares the president's views of certain countries as he so colorfully articulated in that meeting? >> i'm pretty sure his chief of staff is a very hard line person on immigration. i've had discussions with him when he was secretary of homeland security and that was definitely the conclusion i drew. he can be really good on some of the other areas but i believe that on immigration, he's a real hard liner. and i'm pretty sure that he told the president this is a bad deal. so the president has no problems going back on his word where millions of people in our country including you, heard him say right out of his mouth. >> senator mazie hirono, thanks for your time tonight. >> aloha. >> joining me two members of the house who today introduced a competing daca and border security bill. congressman hurd, let me start with you. first of all, on the president's comments in that meeting, do you condemn, do you disavow tho

john kelly, steve miller, you heard it from jake and other places. durbin was right. they had a compromise that meant that durbin was giving up things and chain migration was limited in a way he didn't care for, more border security, but then protection for the daca kids. they also got into the question, i guess, of temporary protected status. this government is trying to throw out people that have been here from haiti, el salvador even though many have made lives here for no reason other than we think your country isn't an s-hole and we want you to go back. while we're all talking about s-hole, the president's view and his advisers' view of america is a white nation. that's how we got to the norway example. why don't we have more people from norway? now senator durbin was saying there was more explicit conversations. >> from european nations. >> this is the whitening of america and has been the project of some people, including attorney general jeff sessions, for a long time. >> the visa lottery program are policies that are debatable. it's hard to do it when this ki

we see how trump and john kelly and steven miller are drawing conservative hard lines on immigration saying this is not part of this right now. there is a little bit of politics. we see that this morning when he is bringing up the mid term election. you mentioned the poll earlier. democrats who needed to vote yes on this voted yes on this. i don't think they will be to blame for this. >> if they haven't made any compromises to the point where a deal can be done what makes anyone believe that something will go down today? i had a couple of journalists in the last hour, one said a couple of weeks and the other said at least a few days. >> i think each day that goes by and now that we are physically in a shutdown there is more pressure on lawmakers to get something done. the deeper you get into this the longer people have to go and deal with furloughs and closures in certain places. we are seeing that both sides are really digging in right now. there really is no sign of compromise. that i think should be a troubling sign for people who are hoping that this thing resolves itself quickly

nikki haley at the united nations and a piece by john miller and from the weekly in thed the crackup theocracy in iran. we will be focusing on the situation in iran later in the program. from our twitter page if you don't like to listen to the facts, please don't watch washington journal and just watch fox news for your alternative facts. apologists are mad because trump and isg being reported. from jen, trump apologists from texas could not name one conservative paper with positive trump stories that we should read from here on c-span's washington journal. from highland trump and is being reported. park, illinois. good morning. good morning. the way i look at trump is that he's always campaigning but he's never governing. i think we have to separate what we know about trump from what his opinion. a lot of what came out this morning's opinion. of course he's a liar. he said he's going to give the middle class a big tax cut. what happened is that the cleaners got actually billions in tax breaks. what he thinks about women. that was broadcast on television. he demeans women. and he mak

but stephen miller and john kelly will not. so they cannot get democrat votes in the long run and the win they would otherwise have. in some alternative universe trump administration they got daca, the wall and he's running around the country getting praise for it. >> thank you both for joining us tonight. >>> coming up we have breaking news tonight, a new report that james comey's replacement at the fbi has threatened to resign over pressure from attorney general jeff sessions. that is next. >>> on the anniversary of president trump's inauguration, the country was coast to coast with the women's march. se sill richards will join us. r, we can't predict what tomorrow will bring. but our comprehensive approach to financial planning can help make sure you're prepared for what's expected and even what's not. and that kind of financial confidence can help you sleep better at night. with the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. stay at la quinta. where we're changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set

but they're not going to get in a fight with steven miller and john kelly. stephanie, thank you very much. nick, your thoughts. >> steve sch mi dt, talk to us from nbc's bureau out there about this trust study, trust braham tore and why our trust in our institutions and elites is in danger. >> well, edelman conducted this study for the last 18 years. it's one of the largest global studies that looks at trust in government of ngo media institutions in business. we did it across 28 countries, 33,000 interviews. and what we've seen is a decimation of trust in the united states, both amongst the american people but also a global audience. pre-cipitous drops. we're now viewed as somewhere between spain and italy among formed elites. the people making the most money in the country with the highest levels of education. the view of the united states is now dead last out of those 28 countries. we see precipitous, calamitous drops amongst young people in the country, polarization politically in the united states in this age of trump. and i think it bears mentioning th

it's also the issue that we hear that steven miller his senior policy advisor and of course john kelly also share a similar view. and also are coloring the president's opinion on this. >> one of the questions here, is if he does get -- sorry. jeff. if he gets behind this. >> i was distracted. there was an alarm in the background. >> we have distractions this evening. if the president does get behind this version from mitch mcconnell or something similar to it, does this give him the win that he may want? the fig leaf people use that is needed here so it does appear like the president did come out a winner on this? >> it's certainly an off ramp. and a quick off ramp from this shut down debacle. it's not clear who wins. we saw the political messaging from the democrats saying republicans are trying to put children against children. children receiving the children health insurance program vs. the children benefitting from daca. and saying democrats were putting the interest of illegal immigrants, dreamers, above those of american citizens and american service members. and so this deal in

but stephen miller and john kelly will not. so they cannot get democrat votes in the long run and the win they would otherwise have. in some alternative universe trump administration they got daca, the wall and he's running around the country getting praise for it. >> thank you both for joining us tonight. >>> coming up we have breaking news tonight, a new report that james comey's replacement at the fbi has threatened to resign over pressure from attorney general jeff sessions. that is next. >>> on the anniversary of president trump's inauguration, the country was coast to coast with the women's march. se sill richards will join us. ♪ when you have a cold, stuff happens. ♪ { sneezing ] shut down cold symptoms fast [ coughing ] with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. there's so much goodness it makes us feel alive. it illuminates our world and connects us to each other. with transitions® adaptive lenses® you'll live the good light. they block uv rays. plus they help protect from harmful blue light. both indoors...

it is stephen miller, john kelly. that is a bigger obstacle than negotiating with democrats. >> it is a rock and hard place for the president. the reason you have 80 plus percent of the american people saying they want d.r.e.a.m.ers to stay is no strings attached. they don't say if we get border security or if this happens. this is humanitariahumanitarian. this is morality, what is right to do. and if he plays with it, well, yeah, i could extend the timeline for the program that i set arbitrarily. but i don't want to show my hand because it is a negotiating ploy. it is a dangerous space for him to be in. >> i think the values you articulated for why many people support the d.r.e.a.m.ers, forwardness, humanity, morality, they are not the motivating principles of donald trump. he has to given something back given how big demonization was in his campaign. both sides will give a bit and we prefb the respect and humanity for the d.r.e.a.m.ers who have been working hard and playing by the rules, that's the way however and p

they kept telling him privately, senator perdue, senator cotton, white house chief of staff john kelly, steven miller telling him your base may desert you if you cut this kind of immigration deal. so the president had warring sides inside of the oval office telling him to go in a different direction. so far he has sided with them. >> the dark side won this fight. thank you. great reporting as always. that same "washington post" article in that article, donald trump is quoted dismissing concerns by the congressional black caucus. when is senator durbin told trump the caucus would be more likely to go along with the deal if certain countries were included he was kurt and dismissive saying he was not catering to the black caucus and did not particularly care about that block's depend according to people briefed on the meeting. i'm joined by james clyburn of south carolina, a member of the congressional black caucus. what do you make of the per remtory rejection of the cause confident black caucus by this president? >> thank you so much for having me, chris. well, we're not surprised at that. the fact of

the first was just john kelly and stephen miller and others suggested you can't do this proufr. he's time and time again prj. and that's kim berlin atkins, chief washington reporter for the "boston herald" and an msnbc contributor. well, kimberly, what do you make of your government at work right about now? >> yeah, i think it's really extraordinary. i think the fact that we got to the point of a shutdown was not that surprising, but for the white house to first immediately come out and declare that it would not negotiate at all during the duration of the shutdown, which really undercuts efforts by democrats to sort of force the negotiation over the weekend if the government sh shutwas another deal in the making according to senator schumer that, again, fell apart after a period of time in which senator schumer left the office and sometimes later that the white house indicated there would be no deal, even with the wall being offered. it seemed pretty clear even from the beginning of all this that this is -- the ball is in donald trump's court. he is the one who is the negotiator

his anti-immigrant basin side of the white house, steven miller, john kelly, outside of the white houseke ann coulter and steven king. and when he realized and when he was told you can't do this, oh, my goodness, your base will go crazy, that is when he pulled back. that is not the essence of a negotiator. that is not the essence -- >> on the flip side did democrats overplay their hand when the president said that, give me anything and i will sign. it i will take the heat. was that the green light for democrats to say i'm going with immigration and not going to wiggle. >> but here is the thing. if it was just democrats, maybe. but you have lindsey graham, you have jeff flake who were also told by this administration. >> those are not die hard republicans any way. >> oh, okay. >> it is not about that -- >> but they are republicans and they are trying to fix this -- >> that's ridiculous. >> the reason why we're having this very discussion right now about what was said when, who did what, is because the president is indecisive. his indecision created this issue. >> no, this issue was here

base and he really wants to sound tough on immigration and he's surrounded by people like john kelley, steven millerwho have a very hardline view on immigration. they feel if they are going to give the democrats this agreement to allow these people to remain legally in the country, they want to get a whole chunk of change as a result of it. this idea that they need to be able to leverage this to the maximum extent possible to get things that the president wants. like an end to the diversity visa. like an end to what the white house called chain migration. family members being able to bring each other into the country. i think we also need to pause here. we are once again talking about the possibility of a government shutdown. when we have a republican congress, a republican in the white house, and a potential shutdown on the eve of the president's inauguration. it's just extraordinary we're back at this point again. >> eli, as she often does, jill makes a good point. and you mention mcconnell. i want to play just what mitch mcconnell said about this today. >> i'm looking for something that president

and we know the first time was because john kelly, steven miller, others, suggested to him this will not go well with your base, that you can't sell this to them. you need to be tougher and this president time and time again has made decisions based on pleasing his base rather than trying to bring a large swath of diverse americans together over a single issue. >> let's talk to another journalist who is one of our regulars on our broadcast every night, kimberly atkins, msnbc contributor, what do you make of your government at work right about now? >> yeah, i think it's really extraordinary the fact that we bought the to the point of a shutdown was not that surprising, but for the white house to first immediately come out and declare it would not negotiate at all during the duration of the shutdown, which really under kwuts efforts by democrats to sort of force the negotiation over the weekend, if the government shut down and then to find out there was another deal in the making, according to senator schumer, that again fell apart in the period of time after which senator schumer left

he said the president got bad advice from the staff members, potentially steven miller and john kelly. what happened in those two hours? is steven miller running the show now? what's going on? >> heartily. to be very clear, the president is running the show at the white house. and look, i was part of this process and part of the conversation that's went on. the president simply, as he looked at the dealest wants a good deal and he wants the right deal. he laid out what his priorities were. what need to be include in the any piece of legislation and has simply failed to address the things were laid out. specifically one. areas that really, really fell short was the funding for border security. they only put in about .1 of what the department of homeland security said they needed. not wanted but needed. this was a complete failure in terms of of a good deal based on what the president laid out and based on what he wanted to see in a piece of legislation. hopefully they'll get there. we're still working with members to try to make deal on daca and make sure that we include those componen

did something happen between 10:00 and 12:00 that he said the president got coerced by stephen miller and john kelly. what happened in the two hours would change? is miller running the show now? what's going on? >> hardly. to be very clear, the president is running the show here at the white house. look, i was part of this process and part of the conversations that went on. the president simply as he looked at the deal, he wants a good deal and the right deal. he laid out what his priorities were, what needed to be included in any piece of legislation and it simply failed to address the things that were laid out. one of the areas that fell short was the funding for border security. they only put in about 1/10 of what the department of homeland security said they needed. not what they said they wanted but what they said they needed. this is a complete failure in terms of a good deal based on what the president had laid out and based on what he wanted to see in a piece of legislation. hopefully we get there. we're still going to continue working with members of both republicans and democrats, ho

and we know the first time was because john kelly, stephen miller, others suggested to him this won't go well with your base. you can't sell this to them. you need to be tougher. and this president time and time again has made decisions based up up upon pleasing his base rather than trying to bring a large swath of diverse americans together to settle the issue. >> let's talk to kimberly atkins, chief washington reporter for "the boston herald" and an msnbc contributor. kimberly, what do you make of your government at work right now? >> yeah, i think it's really extraordinary. i think the fact that we got to the point of a shutdown was not that surprising, but for the white house to first immediately como come out and declare that it would not negotiate at all during the duration of the shutdown, which really undercuts efforts by democrats to sort of force the negotiation over the weekend if the government shut down. then to find out that there was another deal in the making, according to senator schumer, that, again, fell apart in the period of time after which senator schumer left t

he said president got bad advice from staff members including potentially stephen miller or john kelly. what happened in the two hours? is stephen miller running the show? what is going on? >> to be very clear the president is running the show here at the white house and, look i was part of this process and part of the conversations that went on. the president simply, as he looked at the deal, he wants a good deal, he wants the right deal. he laid out what his priorities were, what needed to be included in any piece of legislation and simply failed to address the things that were laid out. specifically one of the areas that really, really fell short was the funding for border security. they only put in about fun 10th of what the department of homeland security said they needed. not what they wanted, but what they said they needed. this is simply complete failure in terms of a good deal based on what the president had laid out. based on what he wanted to see in a piece of legislation. hopefully we get there. we'll still continue working with members of both republicans and democrats a h

. >> does john kelly have veto power. >> jason miller doesn't work in the administration. the only person with veto power in this country is the president. thanks, guys. >> sarah sanders there saying this was all the democrats' fault, the democrats were the ones that decided to turn the lights off on the government. sarah huckabee sanders refused to put blame on the president's shoulders although members of the republican party said the president was unclear where he stood or what he would accept in a deal to reopen the government or deal on immigration. let's break in august of down with our reporters starting with our white house contour kristin walker. she kept saying there were certain criteria that the white house needed to make an daca. funding the wall, ending chain migration and the visa lottery program. she was asked whether those parts were in cement or negotiable. she refused to say if they were negotiable, but it seems like they're not negotiating on a whole lot. you had senator graham and senator durbin there last week. you had senator schumer there last week

steered away by immigration hard-liners on his own staff, like chief of staff john kelly and senior adviser stephen miller. >> we cannot do this with people in charge at the white house who have an irrational view of how to fix immigration. >> reporter: but those supposedly irracial white house aides have plenty of allies here on capitol hill, conservatives who do not believe that young people brought to this country illegally as children should be rewarded with legal status, and that has create aid dilemma for g.o.p. leaders who do believe in finding a legislative fix and simply, jeff, want to move on. >> glor: nancy cordes, thank you. it was an emotional farewell for a man who was living in detroit deported to mexico after an immigration crackdown. jorge garcia hugged his family before ice agents took him to his plane. garcia was brought to the u.s. illegally at age 10 and lived here for nearly three decades. he is tooade to qualify for daca. we spoke with his wife, cindy. >> my husband was here illegally, and that was the only crime he committed at 10 years poamed i understand that i am an american cit

it's very clear they have an agenda, john kelly and steve miller, have the idea of what immigrants they want here. these people are trying to recognize, to have americans see a face. we need right now the american people, just as they flooded the town halls during recess for health care, we need our allies to come and do the same thing. >> marie dwra -- >> can i. >> go ahead, neera quickly. >> donald trump is treating these people's lives like a tv show. week to week they have to know where they stand. that's ridiculous. people shouldn't have to live at the whim of the president. people need to live their lives and donald trump needs to solve this problem he's created. >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> coming up more on what the president had to say tonight about russian involvement in his presidential campaign. >>> also, why chinese officials believe jared kushner is their lucky charm. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a medication, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my

however, it does seem like his chief of staff john kelly, perhaps stephen miller have the president in a place where he's not as amenable to some of the more moderate proposals. >> jackie, thank you so much and chris cillizza. bringing this morning, steve bannon to cooperate with special counsel bob mueller after house investigators accuse the former white house chief strategist of stone walling. we'll have details on that ahead. >>> plus, the white house doctor says the president is in excellent health. but his results indicate he has heart disease and is borderline obese. what is going on here? we're live with the fact check from dr. sanjay gupta. lite autos we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ >>> the house intel committee couldn't do it yesterday but cnn is learning that the former white house chief strategist is going to talk with prosecutors