i heard what john podesta said about mark cuban. i mean, he's not a legitimate person. why is he invited? you know, again, i would leave this tit for tat, you know, this is about the big issues that this country is worried about. i'm worried about this. that's the reason i'm sitting here this morning with you. i mean, our country needs to go in a completely different direction. it is failing right now in many ways, in many places. >> okay. >> we're struggling. the difference between the bubble of washington, d.c., and the rest of america is such a vast -- there's such a gap right now, chuck. and people of this country want to see big leadership. and that's what donald trump provides. >> we'll be watching tomorrow night. general flynn, thanks for coming on. appreciate you sharing your views. >> thanks a lot. >>> later in the broadcast, we'll go inside the debate prep war-rooms. i'll talk to two campaign managers have who prepped candidates on how to get under the other candidate's skin. >>> but when we come back, -- >> this man is a pathological liar. a narcissist at a l

the very last thing that john podesta just said is no individual too big to jail. that should include people like hillary clinton. five people around her have had -- have been given immunity to include her former chief of staff. when you are given immunity, that means you have probably committed a crime. i don't know how he can sit there and say something like that with all the things that have been going around just swirling around hillary clinton with her e-mails. in terms of preparation, to answer your question, donald trump has been preparing. you know, it's like where is hillary clinton this week? donald trump has been in pennsylvania. he has been in florida. he has been in ohio. i was with him last night in virginia. he is out speaking to the american public, large groups, small groups. that's how he is bringing his message to the american public. that's why you are seeing the huge shift in the polls, this huge momentum shift. one of the things i think that you ought to do is not only talk about where the polls are today but where they were a week ago or two

i think that's the better mix rather than john podesta. it was lunatic to say donald trump wasn't coming for the next two debates. that's the worst spin of the night. chris christie had the hardest mountain to climb but he did much better spin than john podesta. >> i turned to rachel maddow and said, "wow." i want to know if you think the never trump people, many of our mutual friends, if you think any of them might become hillary clinton supporters tonight on the narrow question of foreign policy and national security. he gave a lot of reasons for a lot of sober, loyal conservatives to have legitimate concerns about just his lack of interest in the granularity of america's foreign policy. >> i don't think so, nicole. >> really? here we go again. i thought he gave them plenty of fodder. >> when he was hammering her on 30 years, the regulatory state, the economic policies, the fact that nothing would change and everything would expand, i was making notes and frank luntz's group was going up and i was thinking to myself, he's got this nailed

i've got john podesta, chairman of the clinton campaign. it seemed to me there was a pretty clear strategy on part of your candidate, secretary clinton go after trump on the $14 million he inherited from his father which really gets to his ego, going to the budget plan which is going to blow the budget by $5 trillion, going after him stiffing suppliers, in each point sticking him on something economic, something he takes his ego >> and trying to get him to explode, which he gradually, gradually worked up his temperament problem. >> the thing -- >> was it all planned like i mentioned? >> she came in prepared, and she noted, she was prepared. he was not. and i think that he had issues, particularly with the program that he put forward, massive tax cuts for the wealthy. tax cuts that would benefit himself. >> yeah. >> and he couldn't explain his economic program. >> you're making my point, that she knew he would have to react. point by point she knew that he would have to spend a lot of minutes defending himself and spend most of his time exha

afterwards and among the responses to that event, this statement from hillary for america chair john podesta quoting from part of it. donald trump has made his outlandish policy of forcing america -- mexico to pay for the giant wall a piece of his campaign. but the first opportunity to make good on his offensive campaign promises, trump chuck. -- choked. in this statement, jason miller from the campaign was saying part ofs was the first the discussion and relationship builder between mr. trump and president of nato. that would have been inappropriate. that theyrprising hold different views on this issue and we look forward to continuing the conversation. mr. trump in phoenix, arizona. a speech on immigration coming up about 10 minutes from now here on c-span. you will have it for you as soon as it gets underway. in the meantime, we're going to show you that event from mexico city, at least part of it where the mexican president joined a donald trump speaking to the media after their meeting. pres. nieto: buenos tardes. representatives of the media, good afternoon. 8, the american people will

i think that's the better nix rather than john podesta. it was just lunatic for him to say donald trump wasn't coming for the next two debate egs. >> hugh, i turned to rachel maddow when you said you agreed with me. i feel like we haven't been on the same page this year. which troubles me. i want to know if you think the never trump people, many are mutual friends, do you think any of them might become hillary clinton supporters after they saw tonight on the narrow question of foreign policy and national security? he gave a lot of reasons for a lot of sober, loyal conservatives to have legitimate concerns about just, just his lack of interest in the granularity of america's foreign policy. >> you know, i don't think so, nicole. >> here we go again. i thought i gave him plenty of fodder. >> when he was hammering her on 30 years, the regulatory state, the economic policies, the fact that nothing would change and everything would expand. i was making notes, and frank luntz's group was going up, and i was thinking he's got theis. he's got thei

off the campaign trail, vigorously preparing with her top aides including her campaign chairman, john podestaand a longtime aide known to be a combative and pugnacious person, has been playing donald trump in a practice debate sessions. her goal i think will be to not -- not donald trump off his game. we will bet expecting from her. the first time he is on a stage with a woman on equal footing. we have yet to see how he will handle that. it was easy for him to pick his targets before. it's a very different scenario tonight. most importantly, some the things he has said, is he prepared to actually talk policy tonight? >> that is the big. can donald trump avoid a viral moment that will reverberate across twitter? moments to avoid that that would really harm him enormously. he has been more measured and mild-mannered in the last couple of weeks that i have observed him on the campaign trail. can he stick with that? we don't know. >> all the talk about a subdued, more somber presidential donald trump, are we really going to see that? >> i ask a donald trump source, and they said we are not touchi

come up in the meetings and that donald trump may not have been telling the truth about that, john podesta updated his statement saying he not only choked. it seems like he got beaten in the room and then he lied about it, john. >> fun with campaign statements. jeff zeleny. also today there were some not so favorable numbers for secretary clinton specifically when it comes to her favorability. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: those favorability number, john, for all of the times she's been in public life, a quarter century worth, "the washington post and abc news poll found 59% of americans have an unfavorable impression of her. it's clear that the drip, drip, drip of the campaign controversies from e-mails to the clinton foundation taking a toll on her. this race seems closer than it has before. she is just two points above donald trump and gary johnson 10%. when she's taken out she's six points a head of john. i can tell you that campaign officials know it is tightening and they know it is a tough race ahead and when labor day begin, that's why they're campaigning aggressive

john podesta is a clinton booster going way back on the clinton. bannon, he's a breitbart guy going way back. >> look who is helping donald trump prepare for debates. ; bmbings annon, roger ales, the ousted chief of fox news. a vast right wing conspiracy. it tells us we're going to have a vicious fall. >> donald trump says he's not preparing for the debate he doesn't know -- doesn't need to, he knows how to. what's striking about the names is it confirm what is we've been able to see about trump's basic strategy which is not broadening his coalition into the center, it's deepening his appeal with the core trump voters he started ith. lewandoski, his old campaign manager, said that immigration speech was about the white male vote. gwen: let's talk about those voters. as we head into the final couple of months of what already seems like a never ending campaign where does do things stand? a new u.s.a. -- "usa today" poll out yesterday showed a couple of things. ins horse race, clinton is well ahead, lead big seven points, 48-41. even more interesting,

here to respond is the clinton campaign chairperson, john podesta.e last night? >> we felt really good about it. she came in prepared, ready to talk about the economy, all the issues, she has specific plans and i thought he came in unprepared and kind of fell apart particularly toward the end of the debate. so, you know, we looked at the overnight polls and cnn had it 62-24. the focus groups that were being done realtime they had her winning, so, you know, i know that was maybe a poll of bright bart viewers. >> variety is saying that donald trump -- putting donald trump at 54% and hillary at 45%. >> we'll see what the real polls looked like and what the american people say. they saw someone who is strong, who could take on the job of commander in chief, i think inexplicably, donald trump tried to bully his way through. >> what about at the end? >> i think he has a history of saying really terrible things about women and she call him out. one of things she's done, she's never attacked him except with his own words. i think there's a natural credibilit

so you heard john podesta sort of enumerating the different mistakes he thinks donald trump has madese of this process so far. is he going to have to be extra careful tomorrow knighnight? >> you have to hand mr. podesta one thing, he's on the talking points. the same thing they've been saying for months and months. we're trending way up and hillary is trending way down in the abc poll. we're up state by state, ohio, florida, colorado, tight in pennsylvania, within two points. hillary clinton has all the pressure on her. she did terrible in the first forum. she can't have two strikes. >> it must be tough for donald trump in a way because he -- really tough for hillary clinton because he's made so many mistakes, doug, at these different debates that everybody who watches these things all the time went, oh, my god, that's it. there's no way he's going to recover from that statement and up and up and up he went. so that's tough for hillary clinton. >> boris is making the case for donald trump, but he's not wrong in his basic analysis. here is the challenge secretary clinton has, she has

to come and talk about that and there's a couple of folks at the top of the clinton campaign, john podestahe communications director who were high ranking officials in the obama administration. what is the importance of the un's general assembly to these candidates must work you have two people vying to be a world leader. donald trump is meeting with leaders and so is hillary clinton. guest: we saw them both yesterday trying to get some visibility in these meetings. to show sheclinton, has these long-standing relationships during her time as secretary of state. she has the respect and ties with many of these folks. by contrast, donald trump doesn't. it's just to have the picture with the world leader to legitimize them. all of the meetings have been very controlled and the press corps would love the opportunity to shout a question at the whatian president to say do you think about donald trump's muslim and/or hillary clinton's handling of benghazi? showingwe have a poll -- should hillary clinton's lead be larger there? guest: what she has to do and what her campaign has been trying to do i

but what i thought was most interesting was john podesta issuing not one, but two troll-like taunts yesterdayd kind of wall , toet negotiator language say that trump was a poor negotiator, that he did not close the deal in the room, that he got each in the room. -- beat in the room. john: they call him a choker, which is one of trump's favorite adjectives. he likes to call people a choker or a choke artist. i think they are trying to get in his head a little bit. guest: yeah, get under his skin a little bit. the clinton campaign has long seen as their best weapon against trump trump himself and thin-skinned, with acs is thin-skinned. a lot of people think hillary clinton as a thin-skinned too, thin skin too, but it seems she has done a better job of getting under his skin than he is getting under hers. was on the trail. do they view him as a secret weapon in states where she is close to trump. wisconsin came close to trump this week in the margin of error. they need -- do they need biden and places where he can shore up those kinds of voters? i think biden is a not so secret weapon, really. h

initially last night immediately following the debate clinton campaign chair john podesta raised the prospect i think jokingly, that donald trump's performance was so bad he'd skip the next two. everybody thought that was either joking or maybe partisan trash talk on the part of the clinton campaign chair. but this morning, rudy giuliani was saying is on the record that if it were him, he would in fact refuse to participate in the next two presidential debates because this one was so unfair. he said he wasn't necessarily advising trump to skip the next two debates but he said if he were the candidate he sure would. trump saying he does plan to participate in the next two debates. that was his word exactly, he said, sure. his campaign has now raised the prospect that that won't happen. will there be two more debates? we'll see. if the two additional debates do happen, if this was not the one presidential debate of the 2016 presidential election that we saw last night, there is an important question, that is hard to answer, in terms of what's about to happen next. and the question is t

here's what john podesta said? >> clinton's podesta? >> yes. >> he clarified right after. >> you guys are up a tree. it's okay, it's okay. >> i guess my point, is i can't see after that speech hispanics saying hey, now i like him. i just don't see that. is there enough white people left that he can get so they can write off everybody? >> i think you guys are in for a surprise here, because i mean, you're talking about my people. i'm telling you that so many of the hispanics that i talk to and african-americans are trump supporters. i think you're underestimating what he's been able to accomplish. and prepare yourself. >> the polls don't show that. >> that's not true. there's new polls out even now and it shows that -- >> among blacks and hispanics? >> american-born hispanics, a rasmussen poll out, as well. just give it a moment and see what happens. >> gary johnson, who was our guest, says how is it going to work? he's going to put this deportation task force, are they going to go door to door hunting down latinos? >> the interesting th

donald trump adviser general mike flynn and the hillary clinton campaign chairman, john podesta, botht can change everything. >> i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> how the presidential candidates plan to knock their opponents off stride. i'll talk to two former campaign managers who have been inside the war-room before.

but what i thought was most interesting was john podesta issuing not one but two quite troll like tauntsthat used kind of wall street negotiator language, to say that trump was a poor negotiator, that he did not close the deal in the room, that -- he got beat in the room. doesn't that sound like wolf of wall street or something? john: they call him a choker, which is one of trump's favorite , not most favorite, but favorite adjectives. he likes to call people a choker or a choke artist. i think they are trying to get in his head a little bit there. anne: yeah, get under his skin a little bit. the clinton campaign has long seen as their best weapon against trump, trump himself and his thin skin, or what they see as his thin skin. a lot of people think hillary clinton has a thin skin too, but it seems she has done a better job of getting under his skin that he has getting under hers. had viceanne they president biden was on the trail. do they view him as a secret weapon in states where she is surprisingly close to trump, states like iowa, wisconsin this week came out close in the margin of

john podesta even tweeting, i'm almost at real donald trump's age, so i get up in the middle night, but important safety tip, don't reach for your phone. you read that brian fallon tweet. this is something they think is a universal winner with all demographics, not just women, but probably especially women, but people of both genders struggle with their weight. i think that they see absolutely no downside to continuing this back and fort, steph. >> let's talk polls. all week long, there was a debate, what polls counted, who was scientific, who won the debate. it's clear based on the polls we have according to the debate that hillary clinton won, but let's talk battleground states. what are polls telling us? >> yeah. we've got some new polls in some swing states or almost swing states. one in michigan showing clinton up by more than she was. one in new hampshire as well. these show that she is tracking upward in the wake of the debate. i will say that sources i talk to who are doing private polling and tracking this believe this race is extraordinarily close and staying that way. they ex

if you want to open up pandora's box, you're looking at hillary clinton, people like john podesta wholy under scrutiny with allegations by the department of justice. his brother getting $140,000 a month from the saudi arabia government. you've got huma abedin. do you want to look into the staff members of this campaign? >> all right. i heard you. scottie brings up a point. i said at the top of this that pastor burns is not the candidate, and when we talk about misrepresentations, we have to look at hillary clinton's misrepresentations as well? >> what type of pivot is that? >> i think it's fair. >> that you look at the credibility of hillary clinton versus who the candidate, versus the credibility of pastor mark burns who is a voters. let me say this, mark burns isn't overstating anything. he's lying, he's a fraud. i'm a member of kappa alpha cy fraternity. there goes the cappa vote for trump if you ever had. but you have to pledge. this isn't any misunderstanding or hack. these are blatant misrepresentations. and this is who donald trump puts before the african-american community and

. >> van, after tonight's commander-in-chief forum, john podesta released a statement tonight that said "the difference tonight could not have been more clear, hillary clinton showed a firm command of the issues and qualifications, experience and judgment to be commander in chief, in contrast the nominee of the party of reagan just asked america's generals and showered praise on russia's president." what's your response to that, van? >> podesta is right. one of the most bizarre things i've ever seen. first of all, none of america's generals are calling for us to go and steal oil from iraq. none of the things he's pointing out are things that america's generals want to do. also, i would think he would be very proud of america's generals and military for rolling isis back day after day, week after week they are losing territory, part of why they're getting so desperate and doing these crazy attacks is because the caliphates are being destroyed under the leadership of obama. and the united states military is the biggest and best military in the world, in the history of the world by far. be

, who, i'm told may be facing a recurrence of that bug that he had a few weeks ago, as well as john podestar campaign chairman, her communications chief, general palmieri, who was traveling with us on the clinton plane last week. i'm told she is out sick today. about half a dozen people, a bug seems to be sweeping through that campaign office. back to you, david. david: just to clarify, jennifer, this bug they say was sweeping through the campaign, it is not associated with her pneumonia, correct? pneumonia is not the same as the bug that was sweeping through, that they say was sweeping through? reporter: her campaign spokesman tell me it is not related to hillary clinton's pneumonia. david: right. reporter: however, we know that bugs can lead to pneumonia. it has been so unclear up until this point. her doctor said that her particular pneumonia was related to her allergies, however. back to you. david: jennifer, thank you very much. appreciate it. melissa. melissa: let's bring in our political panel. fred barnes of "the weekly standard." mercedes schlapp, former gw bush spokesperson. fox n

we saw her campaign chairman john podesta in running clothes, he said she had left the area.clinton left her home about noon today. fourth day in a row the convoy sped away, blocking any press trying to follow. we did manage to track her here, however. they're conducting mom debate prep. she was here until midnight last night. long time aid phillippe rains is playing donald trump, known for combativeness, knowing her weaknesses. a "the new york times" cbs poll shows among registered voters, about 83% say they're going to be watching the debate tomorrow night. there are according to the same polls, shep, 8% of the electorate that are undecided among registered voters. >> new poll from "the washington post" and abc news shows the race is closer. what can you tell us about those numbers? >> reporter: this is a poll conducted by "the washington post" and abc, it is among likely voters, and shows that hillary clinton is up by just two points in a four person race. among registered voters, the poll shows clinton and trump tied at 41%. a higher percentage of trump supporters say the

john podesta of the clinton campaign said not only did trump choke he got beat in the room and lied about he said they didn't discuss this. >> right, well. >> fallout. now comes the speech. >> that's nice but hillary clinton gave him a little bit of a hard time earlier in the speech that she made. i will tell you the bottom line is he somehow figured out a way to get this trip to mexico. in he cut it pretty tight, didn't he? >> >> oh, sure. he is flying his own plane, of course. he has a house in beverly hills where he stayed last night. what it was really question of getting a flight path approved and getting the mexican president on such short notice to actually make good on the invitation. it's pretty evident from the mexican side of this that they didn't expect trump to say yeah, i will be there on tuesday or wednesday of this case having only made the invitation on friday. the speech tonight is supposed to answer a lot of these questions on what trump's immigration policies will be. it's also quite likely that he will leave a lot of unanswered questions. trump made it very clear in t

. >> here's what clinton's campaign manager, john podesta, says about david bossey.is so craven and maniacal, in the heyday of the overreaching gingrich-era congress, the top whitewater conspearry theorist in the house had to fire david bossey. what about the feels that donald trump is moving towards a right wing feeling that a lot of people in the middle aren't comfortable with? >> well, i know -- as you mentioned earlier, i am in the battleground state of iowa. lot of people in the middle. they're very interested in what donald trump is doing. they are voting for donald trump. we're polling great. i think hillary should be concentrating on what she's doing that has been corrupt and what she is doing that has been not secure and such of that nature. so i think her team shouldn't be so worried about what mr. trump and what david has done in his past which we don't know about the specifics of all that but what we do know is hillary has put all of us, all american voters, at a huge risk and she risked or national security. she cannot be trusted and she was extremely ca

paying eight different groups and washington, d.c., as lobbyists -- for example, the brother of john podesta runs the clinton's presidential campaign receiving $140,000 a month from the saudis. all of these things should come out now as we question the u.s. relationship with the saudi government. amy: what do you most want to find out? information coming out in lawsuits of the 9/11 families about saudia arabia's lawsuits? >> supposedly, there are 80,000 pages of documentation about relationships between the hijackers that we know nothing about, particularly those that live in florida, in new jersey, and virginia. this has all been hidden from the public. and through the courts is the only way to get some of this information out. i think it is like ripping the band-aid off. let's see what is underneath that. and then this really allows us to start the much broader issue of questioning. and the fact you just had all bill mckibben talking about the devastating impact of the fossil fuel industry, let's also connect that to saudi arabia where the basis of our relationship has been for decades aro

but what i thought was most interesting was john podesta issuing not one, but two quite troll-like tauntsay to trump that used kind of wall street negotiator language to say that trump was a poor negotiator, that he didn't close the deal in the room. he got beat in the room. doesn't that sound like wolf of wall street or something? >> well, i would say they called him a choker which is like one of trump's most favorite -- one of trump's favorite adjectives. he always called people a choker or choke artist. they called him that. i think they trying to get in his head there. >> yeah, get under his skin a little bit. the clinton campaign has long seen as their best weapon against trump, trump himself and his thin skin or what they see as his thin skin. lot of people think hillary clinton has a thin skin, too, but so far in this campaign, the clinton campaign and she herself have done a better job of getting under his skin than he has getting under hers. >> anne, they had vice president biden out today and he was certainly in his element on the trail. do they view him as sort of a secret weap

donald trump adviser general mike flynn and the hillary clinton chairman john podesta both join me livean't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> how the presidential candidates plan to knock their opponents off stride. i will talk to two former campaign managers who have been inside the war room before. also, how does a man who says this about donald trump --

first one-on-one debate joining me chairman of the 2016 hillary clinton presidential campaign, john podestao see you. >> good to be thank you. >> thanks so much for joining us your reaction. >> we thought we had a very, very good night i think she came in prepared she came in want to go talk to american people, about what she could do to create an economy that was o going to work for them to really invest in the middle class, and from the opening moments othe debate when she talked about seeing about future, granddaughter all kids out there i think rocked it. >> i agree that she won debate last night i am not sure if it changed anybody's opinion or vote donald trump who we knew he is hillary clinton who we knew she is. >> i think donald trump reminded people who he really is i think hurt him a little bit i think he kind of came in not prepared, you can't prepare for a debate, how do you prepare for the presidency, and i think he went from that to really kind of getting a little bit unhinged, i think the debater would wore on seemed not himself, with the sniffling gulping having water seemed

. >> i'm here with john podesta of hillary clinton's campaign. you feel confident hillary clinton won the debate, but i wonder what are you planning on seizing on when it comes to what donald trump said tonight? >> well, first of all, brianna, i think that he came unprepared. he had no real plans for the future. i think the debate on the economy was all ours. i think that she laid out very clear plans about an economy that was built that focused on the middle class, building the middle class, creating good jobs, creating the support that families need like child care and paid family leave, and think he had nothing to say about it. i think we want to keep running at that. and i think he dug himself deeper by repeating untruths and falsehoods. >> specifically which one? if you are cutting an ad, what are you grabbing? >> well, he did -- i mean the fact that he supported the iraq war at the beginning has been fact checked 1,000 times, and he keeps telling the lies about that. he was dissembling in his approach. i think his explanation of why he woul

donald trump adviser general mike flynn and the hillary clinton campaign chairman, john podesta, bothoment can change everything. >> i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> how the presidential candidates plan to knock their opponents off stride. i'll talk to two for

we heard those comments from john podesta, the campaign chair for hillary clinton, but didn't donald trump gain some stature by appearing side by side with the mexican president? >> you know, george, i don't think so. i think it was kind of a diplomatic embarrassment. we'll get to his speech later about we're going to build a wall and mexico will pay for it and he sits down and goes eyeball to eyeball with the president of mexico and what he forgets suddenly to bring it up, or he's too afraid to bring it up, or he chokes in the meeting, it's just kind of an indication that the guy talks out of both sides of his mouth and when he is given an opportunity to address his -- the central rationale of his entire campaign he doesn't do it. and that's not the kind of strength you need in somebody who is going to be conducting bilateral disc leaders of any nation. >> you say he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. yesterday, the republican party put out a video talking about hillary clinton's flip-flops on immigration. let's take a look. >> hillary clinton is pandering for political gain.

bill: hillary clinton's campaign chair john podesta on nbc's yesterday, "meet the press," framed partis debate this way. watch it. >> have to think about what he said in the past. his disparagement of that reporter that you saw on the screen with disabilities. you have to think about the names he is called to gold star families to mexicans, to muslims, and you know, he may try to, he is a good television performer. he may try to adjust for that. bill: we have heard references to that for several days now. can you tell us whether or not donald trump has gotten ready for that answer? >> i think donald trump is very we prepared for the debate. all the enthusiasm is behind him. he is surging in the polls and he is exactly what america is looking for. he is authentic and he is change agent in a race that is completely focused on change. 70% of the americans want something different in the next president. hillary clinton represents everything that is the status quo. and i think on this stage tonight, one-on-one, you will see that more clearly than we ever have. bill: wow. why we watch, righ

and at a nearby hotel, practicing with a small group of confidants including campaign chairman john podesta, debate guru ron klain and natural choice to play trump. clinton studies trump's primary debates to see how opponents knocked him off stride. had her campaign is trying to get under his skin by releasing a list of what they call the seven deadly lies he might tell tonight. like his claim that he opposed the iraq war from the beginning. or that he'll get mexico to pay for a border wall. on face the nation, clinton's running mate argued that trump needs to be held to the same standard as clinton had it comes to specifics. >> i think the great virtue of the debates is you get 90 minutes to look at people and really see whether there is depth, whether there is substance. and whether there is candor and truthfulness in what they say. >> when you're practicing law -- >> clinton knows the format. she's participated in 26 presidential primary debates and needs a performance tonight that will stop her slide in the polls. >> the latest cbs news battleground tracker shows her point in colorado.

bill: john podesta from the campaign, when you blame the refs shows you're losing already.asked about the next debate. look, i think lester holt, i think lester holt did his level best in that environment. and i just couldn't be more proud of the job that donald trump did. walking in front of 100 million people, standing on the opposite side of the stage, of a well-rehearsed, scripted, 30-year career politician and being able to deliver that authentic message he delivered last night. i thought he had a great night. bill: how are you prepping for tuesday? what have you done so far? >> a lot of it is, i'm brushing up on my years in the congress. my focus has not been washington, d.c. it has been focusing on the state of indiana where i am governor to this day. i've been dusting off my 12 years experience on capitol hill. catching up on a lot of those issues. we've been doing a little bit of rehearsal. we'll continue to do that. i'm, donald trump raised the bar for his running mate last night. martha: you have somebody standing in for tim kaine? >> i do, actually. martha: who