john shane was on the force in clifton and newark new jersey, and is an associate professor at john j, up the street. thank you for being with us. i think we can separate - there's two discussions - whether or not we should have the broken windows policing, the idea of stopping things before they get out of hand, arrest or charge people, people committing what we consider petty crimes. then there's the separate conversation that she showed us about what sometimes happens to people that are arrested. this fellow was beaten, eric garner is dead. some are not injured, but they end up with criminal records and affects employability and pros possibilities in life. where do you come down. >> there's a couple of things. tactics and strategy are separate things. as a strategy, it has its place, research suggests that it's fine, it's been validated. there's research that suggests there could be a rise in citizen offenses. that is a trade off. it happens between keeping the city safe and identifying what you want in terms of a quality of life. society has to place a judgment on what it wants fr

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and publisher of color lines.com, bob herbert, and john shane, associate professor at john jay collegetice and a retired captain of the new york police department. but first, seema ire host of "the docket." help us understand what happened with these indictments and what happens next. >> okay dorian. first of all we were scheduled to go to court on this case on wednesday, may 27th. what ms. mosby did was not only convene the grand jury but no one knew what was happening, which is smart because it eliminated any protesters or media frenzy. that's the first thing. the next time they go to court is july 2nd and that's for arraignment. that means the formal charges will be read out and they'll enter pleas assumingly of not guilty. now what happened in that grand jury? two things could have happened. now, we see that the false imprisonment has been removed from the initial charges. this is what i suspect. the false part of the imprisonment was based on the knife. ms. mosby, and i'm sure you remember from that initial conference, said that freddy gray was not carrying an illegal knife. that

. >> let's get right to it with retired newark new jersey police captain, john shane, now an associateor of criminal justice at john j. college and also from baltimore pastor dante hickman. >> let me start with you, when doj is working on this type of case, what is the role when prosecutors are taking a first pass on the prosecution? >> they are there to take a leadership role and provide support. i think the local prosecutor has got to tread very lightly. if we take a look back at michael from north carolina with the duke la kro case he got himself into a big jackpot but not being quite impartial, a lot of conflicts of interest and disbarred and went to jail for a day because he was tie biased in his prosecution. the investigation wasn't strong enough to support the prosecution. that i think is the path that the local prosecutor is going down. >> that's a pretcy serious charge. a prosecutor that is disbarred. what's your evidence for that in this case? >> she made a number of statements that are not supporting the unbiased impartial prosecution -- >> do you care to provide one? >> i d

and joining me in studio a former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney and john shane, professor of criminal justice at john j. college and a retired captain of the newark police department. with a welcome to you both. let's take a listen right now, both of you, to the reaction by malissa right after the ruling. let's take a listen. >> malissa williams and timothy russell was living before he got on top of the hood of the car and starting to shoot into the wind shield. if he would have never got on top of the hood of the car they would be living today. >> of course i admitted saying that's her brother, she's deceased, but talk about that. >> that's exactly the opposite of what the defense team argued which is so interesting. they argued basically that officer brelo was justified in his behavior until he got on the hood which is the last 2.6 seconds. and let me explain. if he is justified then he should have been found not guilty. also important is that -- and this is what i read the evidence came out that showed they were dead before he got on the hood because as you said in your