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senator john thune joins me now.he greens at a loss for america, do you see it that way? >> we don't. we think there's a better way to do this. manchin reforms were very limited and in many ways sort of moved us away from what we were trying to accomplish in true meaningful permitting reform so there's an effort on the way now. joe manchin has incorporated, his foe senator from west virginiait 50 republican cosponsors, they can find a path forward for equal permitting reform, the manchin bill did not get is -- stuart: if republicans do retake the house and the senate, what can you do with a massive tax-and-spend bill? can you reverse any of it? >> my hope would be if we get the majority where we prioritize the biden agenda items, clearly we've got an economy that is wobbly, 40-year high inflation, energy crisis in this country, border crisis in this country, we are going to have to start from ground 0 and do what we can to reverse the harm that has been done through massive spending bills and steer point the 87,000 n

and i think you have to remember people like john thune, i've known john thune a long time. thom tillis, these are old school republicans. they know and understand why the classification and declassification of documents is so important. someone like trump obviously doesn't know and care. some of the marjorie taylor growns or lauren boeberts don't know or care. it's true maybe some of his voters, trump voters, don't know or care. but these old school, you know, republicans who have been here a long time, they know exactly why it's important. and i think they're personally offended by it, which is why they're talking on the record about it. >> norm, i want to get to this filing from the special master, raymond dearie, in just a moment, because it seems like some of the president's comments outside of the formal proceedings are now getting into what he's asking for from trump's attorneys. but does this claim of you can even declassify it by thinking about it complicate the job that his attorneys have to do? >> victor -- >> where do you start, norm? >> having been an attorney f

one of the highest ranking senate republicans, john thune, responds today.ve chairman jay powell says he's going to

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here is senate minority whip john thune taking aim at the president's student loan forgiveness program>> the democrats demonstrated once again they don't care about fiscal responsibility. they don't care about deficit reduction. now they care about one thing and that is buying votes going into another election. yamiche: joining the conversation is nbc news correspondent dasha burns. she's been running all across the country. let's discuss the races to watch ahead. you have been crisscrossing the country, going to battleground states including pennsylvania. talk about what your reporting has shown about what is at stake in this midterm election, what voters are talking about, and how pennsylvania is a microcosm of what's going on. dasha: i have been spending a lot of time in pennsylvania, so have you. we are about to spend a lot more time. all of our lives are regarding more absorbed with this estate and the races we see. not just because it is probably the democrats best shot of picking up a senate seat that president biden was pointing to, but also it really is pretty representative o

. >> cheryl: again, as market fell, musician james taylor performed and senator john thune had this reactionete split screen you see in this country between the white house celebrating a victory lap this afternoon and the american people dealing with the reality. >> cheryl: as far as the report, white house releasing statement saying data shows more progress bringing global inflation down. that is welcome news for american families with more work to do, which is not true, month to month, a lot of things jumped. senator joe manchin trying to defend the new law. >> inflation reduction act looking at cpi that goes up. >> we have a chance to fight inflation. >> cheryl: president biden is heading to -- to push his agenda. >> todd: executive director of texas public policy foundation. robert, with optics like that on the white house lawn, going into triple digit losses, thousands, it was insane. how can the white house claim it feels the plight of the average american? >> it can't. good morning, todd, thanks for having me, yesterday's news was gut punch to american workers at same time you had sla

one of the highest ranking senate republicans, john thune, responds today.ederal reserve chairman jay powell says he's going t

reporter: senator john thune says on gas prices we shouldn't be here any way. >> the heavy hand of governmenthas been imposed by this administration, that needs to be replaced with lighter touch. let's get incentives out there for investment to increase supply in our economy and hopefully that will start to equalize with demand. we can see inflation start to moderate. as of right now, yeah, it is a five-alarm crisis. reporter: so the aftermath of this storm will be very telling as to what has to happen if anything for the national strategic petroleum reserve. back to you, neil. neil: edward lawrence at the white house. thank you, edward. want to go to daniel turner, power of the future ceo. daniel i want to talk to you everything that it is doing to protect the oil and gas infrastructure in response to acts of sabotage. i would be remiss not to pick your fine brain, tapping the reserve or filling it up again, it is getting pretty low by historical standards. what do you think should be done? >> should have never gotten to this point to begin with, right? it is a strategic reserve. the biden a

senate minority whip john thune says it is the key to taking the majority. let's watch and i'll get your reaction. >> this election has to be about the biden agenda. it has to be about holding them accountable and putting a check and balance on the radical, extreme left wing administration that we have right now. >> harris: what would you add to what senator thune is saying? >> it just will be about these things. the media can't hide a 40 year high inflation and record gas prices. they can't hide open borders or the rising crime. and so this will be a referendum on democrat policies and democrat governance that caused all of this. it is not like president biden is unlucky he came to office when all these things happened. his policies caused it all. he is the root cause of all the pain being experienced by wisconsinites and americans throughout the land caused by his policies. it is naturally going to be about -- referendum on democrat governance and policies. >> harris: quickly i want to pop it on the screen and ask my team. the gop saying what americans is

john thune came -- for my bill today. we are with the american people. >> lindsey graham has divided his party yet again. and he is not backing down on this. what in the world is going on? this is an issue that i have never even heard him care about before. >> right, right. >> when he says he has americans on his side, i remind the senator that 66% of americans want wide access to abortion. so, he is wrong there. i thought the only bet that he is trying to make here is about the fact that he is trying to play to his base, he's trying to play two male republican voters. he is trying to play two antiabortion voters who, in his mind, could potentially be mobilized or excited at equal levels as pro choice advocates, pro-choice voters. but the reality is, the data does not back this, up stephanie. newly registered voters are heavily trending towards democrats, i think, at above 60%. you also have what we saw in kansas, an amazing historic turnout. you also have the fact that independents are also sliding towards democrats on t

the senate minority whip john thune says it begs the question why he's approving other pandemic relatedrgiveness and cancellations. and senator john cornyn says if it's over, then i wouldn't suspect they need any more money. the white house has pushed for $22.5 billion in additional covid aid to help with vaccines, testing, and therapeutics. the house majority leader defended the president and explained why he believes some covid relief is still necessary. >> some of this is for places that it's not over. we don't want to see it reintroduced in this country. i guess over is subjective in terms of what does over mean. >> house speaker nancy pelosi seemed to disagree with the president. so the number of deaths from covid has decreased significantly since the last big spike in march, but more than 400 people a day are still dying from the virus. joining us now, independent senator angus king of maine. he's in the armed services and intelligence committees. i wanted to talk to you first about this move to dispense with some relief funds for covid. what do you thing about that? and do you --

still ahead, senator john thune, attorney general of florida ashley moody, martha maccallum, and thechris sununu. the 10:00 hour of "varney" is next. ♪ .. stuart: chatting away our method of dancing, liz he suggested i was jiveing. very true. it is 10:00 eastern. the money, the dow is up 118 points, 3:00, 4:00, down 300

this is john thune saying if the pandemic is over, mr.ou asking for all this money? >> they use the pandemic as a rationale for extending the bailout of student loans and to the tune of blowing up about a trillion dollars in spending, but if he's going to argue the pandemic is over, i think getting additional covid support will be a very heavy lift. >> you are right and he is right. the republicans never wanted to do more money anyway and they were going to fight it. this just gives them a strong rationale. i will say this, i do think, although scientifically, you know, his comment was bad, people are thinking that, right? he's sort of reflecting what ordinary people are thinking if there's not another variant, well, you know, everybody is kind of going back to the office. i see where it came from but it created a big problem that cleanup on aisle covid now for the next week or so. >> and up see that. this is axios covid indicator, their tracker, if you will, index. if you go back to the beginning of the year 15% of americans said they we

his top deputy, john thune, the republican senator from south dakota, told me just a few days ago hee look at a big vote in the senate to pass this bill which has headed for a mark up in the senate rules committee just later this afternoon. and it's expected to get a vote on the floor of the senate later this year. most likely in the lame duck session, although that hasn't been set yet. but mcconnell's support has been key. he encouraged these negotiations every day about election law, not about voting rights, which he wants nothing to do with at the federal level and they tailored this to win republicans over. it looks like they're well on track to get this done. mcconnell has been crucial as we have seen over the last year and a half at making sure legislation gets to 60 votes. when he is there, usually enough members of the republican caucus find their way there. if he's against something, then they struggle to find enough support to move forward. this is a very positive sign for proponents of this effort. >> thank you for coming back to a camera with that news. >>> now to a new n

john thune came on for my bill today. we're on the right side of this issue. >> martha: you think those in your party want you to be quiet, wait until after the election, what would you say to them? >> we're naive. here's my position on crime, inflation, abortion, taxes, a strong national defense. we owe it to the american people to tell them who we are. here's who we are as a national party. at 15 weeks, we've drawn a line to put us in line with europe and the civilized world. we reject chinese abortion policy. stacey abrams is trying to change science. she's trying to deny that the baby has a heartbeat when it does because if you understand how the baby develops, you're going to reject abortion on demand up to the moment of birth. they're trying to marginalize me. i'm a pro life guy. i'm not a single issue voter. i'll vote nor a pro choice person. if i was in colorado, joe o'day, he would change things. but stand up for the baby in a reasonable way. they need you now. it's good to be pro life. there's no bad day to be p

so, if you're john thune, here's a serious person, or mike rounds, you're being asked to defend someday. well, who's to say the excuse won't be different tomorrow and you're left hung out to dry with your ridiculous statement. so, i mean, it strikes me they've probably seen enough and they know enough now that tomorrow the rug could get pulled out from under them. >> thank you guys so much. you're going to stick with me. >>> we need to turn to another serious legal matter. an ugly case gets uglier. coming up, the explosive moments at the alex jones defamation trial in connecticut. is the judge losing control of this courtroom, as sandy hook families dissolve into tears and look on? that is coming up next. welcome to allstate where anyone who bundles their home and auto insurance saves. isn't that right phil? sorry, i'm a little busy. what in the world are you doing? i'm in the metaverse, bundling my home and auto insurance. why don't you just do that in the real world? um, because now i can bundle in space. watch this. i still don't get it. save up to 25% when you bundle home and aut

was going to do this and mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, and senate minority while john thuneid to us yesterday that they thought this issue should be up to the states, there shouldn't be a federal abortion ban. now, i think this was, you know, this is exactly what democrats have been saying. this is where if the republicans are in charge, they're going to do this, and i think that, you know, i think there's no question about it, if the republicans have the house and senate, they will vote on this. they will push it, you know, kevin mccarthy, who would be the speaker, if republicans have the house, we be under pressure to bring this up, mcconnell would be under pressure to bring it up in the senate, i think there is no question they'd bring it up. can they pass it? probably not. but i do think there is no question, if republicans have the congress, they will bring this up, and i do think this is the way that, the timing for what graham does to get here, it is an absolute gift to the democrats. >> why don't they just own it? this they're going to do it, saying yes, this is what

host: we also heard from senate -- john thune.spoke --. >> i want to remind people when president biden took office, inflation was 1.4%. they may be taking a victory lap at the white house, but the american people are not. they are feeling the direct impact of this every single day. this report also shows the price of food, groceries has gone up 13.5 percent. the highest rate increase since 1999, i was a senior in high school. these numbers are staggering. and the white house seems to be in absolute denial of what impact this is having on the american people and their budgets. host: now let's turn to this morning's wall street journal front page with the headlines -- new report shows fueling and tightening campaigns. it starts out saying u.s. consumer prices increase shockingly from july after excluding food and energy prices, showing inflation staying strong and stubborn even though the increase was slightly slower. on the right, you see the results of those worried about the inflation report. it says the s&p 500 suffered the wor

one of those other republicans on the senate floor yesterday with senator john thune of south dakota, minority whip, talking about the administration's efforts on immigration and giving his critique. here he is from yesterday. >> the democrats control all of government in washington. they have the house, senate and white house. to my knowledge they have not attempted to bring an immigration reform to the floor of, an immigration bill, to the floor of the united states senate. furthermore, the president reversed all the policies from the previous administration that affected the border when he took office. now, we've got a situation at our southern border that is nothing short of appalling. if the president really had any interest in making the process at the border, quote, safe, orderly and humane, as he said the other day, he would be making securing our southern border a priority. and it's not. unfortunately, given his record so for, i think it's more likely that we will see the scenes of chaos and human suffering continue. >> more of that available if you want to go to our app and