same goes for johns hopkins goen they've got that incredibly highly ranked medical school, johns hopkins university hospital. also at the university of pennsylvania's hospital inso philadelphia. that's a common setup for big highly-ranked medical schools but that is not how it works for harvard. harvard is the top-ranked or one of the top-ranked schools in the united states year after year. but they don't have their own individual teaching hospital. instead, harvard medical school partners with a whole bunch of hospitals. they partner with more than a dozenre different hospitals and medical institutions in the boston area and they use all of them as their teaching hospitals and affiliates. it's part of the reason why we

joy to meet now is a johns hopkins school of medicine professor and fox news contributor, doctor martyy. doctor carey it's great to see you thank you so much for being here. we have been talking about the positives of natural immunity now for a long time. at that administration, the cdc does not recognize it. tell us the story of natural immunity and why it is so important? >> well, about half of americans have a natural immunity. many of the unvaccinated habit. the construct of the vaccinated and unvaccinated is really a false lexicon. to be more medically precise we should be talk about the immune and not immune. those with a natural immunity actually have better protection against the virus but ironically when businesses fired and those with natural immunity for not being vaccinated they fired those least likely to spread in the workplace for our team thought this is a need, somebody needs to invite patients, people had affection in the past but no vaccination study natural immunity breaks we drew the blade on about 800 different volunteers and we found the immune protection was str

one of the authors was related to johns hopkins. it is not peer-reviewed.usion purported to be that lockdowns do not affect mortality much but to reach that conclusion, they greeted their own definition of lockdown, and they picked and choose to -- picked and chose which studies they will review. it does not present new data and it does not change any of the basics that we know, which is that the coronavirus is a respiratory virus that transmits between people. the more contact between people, the more transmission and the more hospitalizations and deaths. early in the pandemic, stay at home policies were necessary, to prevent the transmission of a serious virus that we didn't know a lot about. fortunately we have other tools now. those include vaccines, tests, masks. because of that, we don't have to resort to stay at home policies. jonathan: we appreciate your time, joshua sharfstein, vice dean of the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. australia is opening up to double vaccinated tourists from february 21. tom: new zealand and australia. i a

this is a direct quote from johns hopkins.alysis that lockdowns had little to no public health effects. they imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. in consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument. sorry for the raised voice. rex people's lives, millions of people's lives, but tony fauci said they were absolutely necessary to save people, remember? >> the fact that we shut down when we did and the rest of the world did hasn't saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> tucker: and he is still in charge. he should be in charge but he is not, head of public health for johns hopkins, doctor, thank you very much for coming on. it is so frustrating to read this, this topline analysis from this study, that i'm just going to stop talking and ask you what you make of it. >> it's interesting. there's really only been one narrative on this entire topic and it's probably one of the biggest interventions in the history of publi

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the good news i observe in new york city, andrew pekosz joins us from john's hopkins bloomberg schoolesterday in new york, it was just like the window, moment between delta and omicron. can you say all clear it for a normal society dr. pekosz: you need to look locally at what is happening. many of the states and cities that saw omicron enter at end of november are now seeing the end of that surge with numbers going down. so it does look like there is the light at the end of the tunnel coming up fast. tom: the washington post using john's hopkins data on the seven day moving average of deaths and i have been waiting for that to roll over and i now have two days of a negative first derivative on death that is wonderful news. can you say deaths are rolling over? dr. pekosz: yes. again, some differences in states but over all the death and severe disease are always lagging indicators of case numbers. those are starting to drop. look locally to make sure the trends are as far down as they should be, but everything is looking like the surge is ending and it is about seeing where we plateau

stuart: we had this report at johns hopkins.g to see the end of these top-down mandates? >> i think so. we didn't know what we were doing going in. folks are now learning. to the degree we learn something works, think about doing it again if situation requires. if something doesn't work toss it out. that is the whole thing about the pandemic. we are learning on the fly. that's the new norm. stuart: public schools have failed during the pandemic. do you have a solution like school choice? >> absolutely. if a parent can't get their child educated in public school even though the teachers have been vaccinated and billions to protect everybody they should have the choice of the child going to another school which happens to be open. this should be market-driven. the student and parent of the student first not the vested interest that are pooling paychecks for never showing up. stuart: with you all the way. senator joe manchin had this to say about build back better. roll it please. >> there is no, don't know what you're talking abou

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here to discuss my lectures disease specialist and senior scholar at johns hopkins university, doctor. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: what's going on with your employer? sounds like a should be more forthcoming about this incredible piece of work. >> i don't have information what's going on internally with the way johns hopkins is promoting or not promoting that study, it's a different department as mine. i know i've done press and other individuals in my field has some other studies but at least i know not part about. kennedy: all right, what you think about it? >> it's not surprising. we know blanket tools like lockdowns were not necessarily went to happy impact people thought they what because many people started to shelter in place on their own before the lockdown orders were issued because they felt they needed to adjust her behavior. we know lockdowns sometimes drove behavior underground because people couldn't go to the park or dying outdoors or play basketball outside. they would go to each other's houses and/or settings, increase risk of transmission a lot of abstinence on

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if i were to pick one, i would deal with covid and the findings from johns hopkins. we have been living this for two years. history will look back and tell us whether we made the right decisions or the wrong ones. jonss hopkins, they are the ones who came out with the map the. this organization has credibility. the fact that we were the only ones reporting on this, and cnn, msnbc, the "new york times," "the washington post." it doesn't look like they gave it much attention at all. bill: i think a lot of people think covid is behind us. the johns hopkins study about blew me away that the isolation saved. you were told to stay i doors. what did we learn about only chron? your family was more liable to give it to you than a stranger walking down the street or someone walk working in a gym. brian: the city of cincinnati giving the kids off from school the day after the super bowl. dana: jesse watters has been calling for the day after the super bowl to be a national holiday. remember your 16-year-old self? and let the community have a good time. it's also east coast time.

a comprehensive study published by john hopkins university, lockdowns and the earliest stages of the pandemic only reduced covid 19 deaths by that fraction of a percent. at the same time, we know those lockdowns were wreaking havoc on our economy, the education of our children, our mental health, and fueling political unrest. the studies found that. remember, the biden administration was convinced the best path forward was to shut everything down. >> president biden: what so many americans have lived under four months, it was intended to buy us time to get our act together. >> when you have an acute situation, the answer to that is to go back to our basic come out to shut down, flatten the curve. >> the fact that we shut down when we did has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> harris: democrats in the media have widely criticized people who even questioned the lockdown. now, those skeptics say they feel vindicated. >> of course it didn't work! americans saw it wasn't working. we saw the coronavirus spread dramatically, whether you did not or did have a

and after that johns hopkins analysis showed lockdowns, restrictions, school closures and more actually hurt americans, some are finally coming around but very late in the game. i'm harris faulkner. you are in "the faulkner focus". the white house is claiming president biden never wanted any of that. no lockdowns. >> the president has been clear we're not pushing lockdowns. we haven't been pro-lockdown. that isn't his agenda. most of the lockdowns happened under the previous president. >> harris: federal vaccine mandates and state and local mask mandates for school kids became the defact o*e law of the land. we need to realize how damaging shutting down our businesses and keeping us locked in our homes and covering our children's faces have been for all of us. >> ultimately there is economic and social costs to these lockdowns and yet there is little benefit. constitutional rights are most in jeopardy in times of crisis and we need to fight to preserve them. once you see the state of the federal government authority you won't get it back. america, we can't have these open and frank conv

this is johns hopkins. we had a leader, president trump said i want to talk to dr. deborah katz who gave an alternative view about what this does to people's mental health. harris, just one last point. cancer diagnoses dropped by 80% among the lockdowns. mammograms dropped by 80%, colonoscopies at dropped by 90%, missed cancer diagnoses all because we had a drumbeat in the bureaucrats that said keep the country shut down. >> harris: if we have the biden administration pushing the lock down, let's take a peek and i'll come straight to you. >> president biden: statewide lockdowns, it's so under four months were intended to buy us time to get our act together. >> when you have an acute situation then an extraordinary number of cases, the answer to that is really closing down to go back to our basics, to shut things down in flatten the curve? >> the fact that we shut down only data and the rest of the world did has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> harris: i wrote down one thing

why are we doing it at johns hopkins. the nih has $42 billion.asking the cdc for the last year to release their data on reinfection's. that would tell us a lot. they know all the positive tests in the country. they been matched. they can look at that data and give us strong information but they have not. last week they released data on new york and california, really driven by those states. what they found is that natural immunity was three times more protective against hospitalization. >> shannon: two quick things that i want to get to. ellie mayor garcetti saying he took pictures. he holds his breath when he takes his mask off. >> yeah. i think what you're seeing here is the reality of it smart people like this mayor are recognizing that we are not going to live with masks forever. we need to find a balance. they don't want to wear masks. the masks really are doing very little. they can feel good about their immune protection with vaccination. so i personally have observed that at doctor's conferences, doctors are not wearing the masks at the c

if we were wrong, we need to know for the next pandemic. >> in the johns hopkins report, three leadingvel bans and mandatory school and business closures early in the pandemic. reduced covid deaths by only 40.2%. >> i think it's important that we try and remove all the politics and really talk about what the data shows. what science shows and in support free people asking important questions about how to get pandemic policy correct. this isn't federal health bipartisan task force to investigate the pandemic's origins and the response of the trump and biden administrations. >> i think it's important to look at every aspect of this outbreak for lessons learned that ♪ only what the origin of the virus, the origin of the outbreak is but many other things that we could learn from in the future. so that we can prevent something like this happening or respond better if and when it does. >> and an fda advisory panel scheduled to meet february 15th to discuss pfizer's application to expand vaccine access to children under the age of 5. a kaiser family foundation survey finds that three in 10 pa

the actual report suffers from —— is from john hopkins university _ suffers from —— is from john hopkinsthe town itself, and is not quite clear what they mean by the full lockdown, but when we compare things— full lockdown, but when we compare things like _ full lockdown, but when we compare things like closing central shops, staying _ things like closing central shops, staying at— things like closing central shops, staying at home, closing schools, those _ staying at home, closing schools, those things have a bigger impact on death— those things have a bigger impact on death rates and reducing death rates than what's described as a lockdown. lots of— than what's described as a lockdown. lots of those elements were part of the lockdown anyway. and it also says the — the lockdown anyway. and it also says the social costs of lockdown were _ says the social costs of lockdown were greater than the costs... than the benefits — were greater than the costs... than the benefits. ithink were greater than the costs... than the benefits. i think a lot of people _ the benefits. i think a lot of peop

host: jennifer nuzzo from johns hopkins university. that was yesterday on this program. if you want to watch that in its entirety, you can do so at our website, c-span.org. back to your phone calls. vivian from pine bluff, arkansas, you are next. caller: good morning. i just wanted to make a couple of observations. i am in a state where we have, so far, identified almost 800,000 total cases with almost 1000 added just yesterday. we are just coming off of a second spike. people are still dying. we have had a total of almost 10,000 deaths in our state. people forget, when we shut down the schools, we did not know what the impact was on children in our state. thankfully, we have only had two pediatric -- recorded pediatric covert tests. -- covid tests. but we still do not have total vaccine protection for our children. i think we are still suffering from misinformation and fear and politicize -- politicization from the last administration. individuals making statements about how horrible -- harmful the mask mandate is. this little thing called science says masks do help pre

it's not like johns hopkins isn't one of the premier institutes in the world!tant example of downright censureship of media. we studied the blood of 800 different people with no vaccination and many of whom had the infection in the past and we reported those results. this met all the standards of our number one top medical journal. two of us are members of the national academy of medicine and tenured professors collectively. the two of us have 1,000 scientific pier review publications between the two of us. and big tech didn't like it because it gave a different opinion than what their narrative is. that defines now what gets censored. >> marty, this is a follow-up. not many of us could call the friend of ceo and get things put back up. i'm assuming after that personal intervention that post may not have come back. >> that's right. there's so many things that have been censored along the lines of people that don't have the profile or connections to get this reposted. so much misinformation in the past flew out as standard stuff and stuff that was put out as sta

from johns hopkins ulcer for -- johns hopkins' center for health security.t a sense of relief multiple times over the last 2.5 years that this is finally over. but we are not quite there yet, are we? we are reaching new record case in places like hong kong, there are still lockdowns on the other side of the break. what is the idea, in terms of the development of the new variant? >> yeah, there's always a risk. any time that you give this virus a chance to replicate, it gives it a chance to mutate. it looks like most of the bigger mutations, we might face, might be in chronically ill people, but a lot of people might harbor mutations in the world. so we really do need to buckle down and get people to vaccine that they need. matt: it does feel here like we are at the tail end of it, doc. some of the biggest banks on wall street have said you don't even have to wear a mask anymore walking around -- the mask mandate has been ended in new york state. are there places in the u.s. where we are still vulnerable? >> we still have a lot of people in the hospital. over

we have the john hopkins report who says these draconian shutdown measures were a disaster and you can'tnsider it as an option again. abc, nbc, msdnc, fake news cnn. they didn't mention that science one time. so it is really an information crisis. how do you see it? >> it's clearly a decision that was made by the mainstream media and the left-wing media that they would not cover the fact that these lockdowns only prevented .2% of any depth. and that the number of deaths that resulted as a collateral consequence of these lockdowns far outweigh the numbers that they protected. so you've got their narrative on the left pretty cut the lock everyone down, because what we are doing during this covid lockdown is putting fear and control into society. and in addition to that, we are moving huge amounts of money to the unions come up to the school unions, $190 billion. we are moving all kinds of money from small businesses, mom and pop to the big box stores like, you know, amazon as well as lowe's and costco's and those other companies. but they are in it together. it is no surprise that they dec

marty makary was saying on tucker carlson, johns hopkins didn't even put out a press release, what'so see you cover this johns hopkins study, i came up with daily mail, "new york post," pb stations in gainesville and san diego. a lot of major news organizations didn't want to embrace the idea that everything we all went through in 2020, locking down, mask mandates and the like may have had very little effect on the death rate although there are also questions about hospitalizations and this was a study of studies. i think the fact no press release was put out and nobody jumped on it says that a lot of people in journalism didn't want to hear this. i think the winds have shifted now, nobody in 2022 wants to go back to the lockdown policies of the past. >> john: as we were pointing out earlier with countries like sweden now joining other european nations and lifting all coronavirus restrictions, the pressure is going to be on our political leaders to do the same thing. good to see you, we'll see you again soon. up next to a report salute, stay with us. (burke) this is why you want farm

thank goodness john hopkins did not go on joe grogan's podcast to explain this.er] the last thing i would say is the catastrophe overall, one for the people who died of the illness, but the people also who have had all these other long-standing effects. covid is certainly one of them, but the people who have lost on career opportunities, educational opportunities, relationships: not being able to go out and meet people. how do you make friends? most of them out. people aren't even going to work. the last point i will make is in all the campaign issues you are going to see in 2022, i flashed back to something trump said in 2016. do your member the applause he got when he said "this country is too politically incorrect?" he had huge applause. he's onto something. kids continuing to have to wear schools will be the issue of 2022 that brings out parents. not the only issue, but a flash point. >> may be all the kids that were masked up become republicans when they are 18. [laughter] >> wow. >> jesse: thank you dr. fauci? [laughter] >> jeanine: there are a couple. one

johns hopkins lays out in real data the harm of locking down the country for covid and says don't letgain. shutdowns may have reduced covid deaths by .2% but post enormous commercial and social costs where they have been adopted. researchers also concluded lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument in the future. jonathan serrie live in atlanta digging into these findings for us. hi, jonathan. >> hi, martha. in the early days around the pandemic and around the world, you saw stringent lookdown measures. they were represented in the form of restrictions, included anything from closures of schools and businesses to bans on international travel. they included stay-at-home orders or advisories for nonessential workers. now johns hopkins has published an analysis of data from 24 studies and the researchers determined that various restrictions on movement in the u.s. and europe reduce covid mortality by .2%. the authors write lockdowns have contributed to reducing economic activity, raising unemployment, reducing schooling, causing political unr

elizabeth: msnbc, cnn, other networks not covering the johns hopkins study.e is driving factor driving down biden's low approval ratings high 30s. they slammed the republican governor of virginia saying they will do what they are doing now. watch this. >> we have a bipartisan movement to get parents back in charge of their kids lives. remember parent matter. that is what voters said loudly in november. all of sudden now where virginia has been leading we're seeing the rest of the country also come around this it is time to bet back to normal. it is time to empower parents. elizabeth: watch this viral video, a group of virginia student serving a lawsuit to the loudon county school board over mask mandates. you see in the video right there. [cheers and applause] so that was students delivering a lawsuit to loudon county school board in virginia over the mask mandates. so we have all of that going on. monmouth shows a majority of americans say we have got to get back to normal. when you look back, we're now at a point in history, doctor, right? we know that the

plus, why immediate team is ignoring the report out of john hopkins.ns were ineffective and destructive. we begin tonight with a state of the economy, the biden administration had a much better than expected january jobs report. the latest on what the white house is not talking about: runaway inflation. speak of president and the white house are publicly warning that the january jobs report might be dismal. instead, 467,000 jobs were added, and we are learning expectations for january might have been lowered. the disappointing jobs reports for november-december were underestimated by the labor department, which revived november and december jobs report by adding 700,000 jobs, and part because of confusion over covid payrolls and seasonal jobs. "the wall street journal" editorial board says "no one should make too much of this single month report," but the u.s. labor secretary explains that this is standard. >> the revision from 2021, that number today, 700,000 jobs, that jumped out at me. i asked the bureau "why such a big revision?" they said "statist

>> an economist at johns hopkins university published by his department and several other economists. >> bill: the reason i point this out, we were shown a john hopkins map for months for viewers. interesting that came from that source. nice to see you. thank you, jonathan and atlanta. >> dana: america's current crisis putting pressure on democrats ahead of the midterms. tough mentor bites are pushing back against the defined the police. joining us now is one of those moderates, josh gottheimer of new jersey and one of the founders of problems over sockets. tell everyone what you would like to do peer to put a summary on the board. a cause invest and protect act. you would specifically look at things like resources and body cameras. >> right. the ideas you can't the fund, you need to invest, strengthen departments, protect communities, and law enforcement. a former share from florida and i, what we are focused on is training. one of the officers who we lost in new york some of this was a situation of situation of domestic violence and it is often a huge issue for law enforcement. as

he is anton professor at johns hopkins university school of advanced international studies. he joins the south from washington, d. c. thank you so much for joining us. what do you make of what came out of that meeting between president biden and the german chancellor? i think it was quite significant. first, let's remember that the reason for shoals to come here was affirmatively to demonstrate that germany is a reliable ally. so that's the context he doesn't come here enough posture of disagreement with washington. he comes here in an effort to assure up the alliance and shaw american of faith and to push back against doubts expressed here in the u . s. and in europe as well, about germany's commitment and 2nd, the way i read this press conference and nordstrom to the all important question. nordstrom to is that i see it that by then and sholtes have agreed on a formula for dealing with ord stream 2 in which it is biden who emphatically, without any question, says this project will be terminated, it will be ended, not just suspended, but ended. if russia invades and shots,

so how much time did the media stand covering the john hopkins study? make constantly lecture us about following the data mail was an apology and trump an apology in this man pretty much the oath only governor who followed the data. we have to learn the message of this otherwise it will happen all over again. so never again marked and out-of-control eric can't. like fauci. to invade the regulation that the administration put in place to commission rate close research like begin a function in wuhan that is the most likely origin of the pandemic. never again must we allow out-of-control medical establishments. the lockdown policy should be rejected as the pandemic policy instrument. and then to bury the findings of the media that's why we now must have actually independent 9/11 start commission to investigate total transparency the origins and our response to the pandemic. if you think about how much they did and the lives they ruined and turned on society and turn them upside down. an investigation is not enough. people should be put on trial. >> and whi

and as we continue to deal with covid and the fallout from it, bring in a brand-new study out of johns hopkins harm than good. it is a bombshell new study, john. it did show that stay-at-home orders may have caused more deaths when it comes to covid-19. somebody who has a lot to say about that is kentucky republican senator rand paul. it like breaks my brain and heart i said earlier to think about this. after all we did to mitigate the spread, to lighten the load in the hospitals, you know, to get rid of this virus, lockdowns, shutdowns, business loss, the economic pain and toll it took on the country. this new study out of johns hopkins says it basically did nothing. it could have even harmed or increased the spread of covid? >> well, let's hope we learn from our mistakes. in the 14th century the pope surrounded himself with candles because they thought the infection could be burned out of the air to save people. a wrong-handed motion, took a few centuries, really to the 19th century to understand the germ theory. now we have lockdowns, not based in science, and really we know that by and lar

this as a major new study from johns hopkins university just determined lockdownst were extremely ineffective. in fact, they were harmful. and any future measures should m be rejected out of hand . we b you hear this report coming up. and big news from the media mob as some are now finally starting to understand the evils of censorshipan and cancel culture. now we're going to call them on their hypocrisy. oh , you're going to love the hypocrisy. i have a message foroc whoopi goldberg. i have a message tonight for joe rogan. i have a message for m the truckers in the us and canada and the prime minister of canada. but first we begin tonight with fake news. cnn in nine years as the network's president jeff zucker tram transform cnn from a boring left of center news outlet to a still boring, totally, completely, utterly dishonest lying anti trump fox obsessed arm of the democratic party . al zucker is out. bye bye. anyway, in a statement claims his resignation is because ofla a consensual relationshipth with another executive that he did not properly disclose. okay, let me be blunt. i'm sorry i'

than thanis just the hypocrisy when when you look at all of i us , why aren't they following the john hopkins science? nobody mentions why aren't they following the science on therapeutics and the science on young people not having bigg problems with covid? you're right, john. this is about something muchuc bigger than than the masks. this is really emblematic ofve this perverse relationship between the power elite and everyday americans. and you see it right there.ra you've got stacey abrams sitting there in the fronterth representing the power elite. they make the rules but t they don't follow b them or feel like they have to. and then you've got these kidsin sitting behind her whoo represent us everyday americans who have to follow those rules or else face the consequences. soso we've got one set of rules for the power elite, a different set of rules for the rest of us .he rest one set of rules for the people like hillary clinton and stacey abramsms and gavin newsomin and those like them and a different set of rules for the rest of us and this is about so much more we've seenes is more tha

this is a direct quote froma- johns hopkins. well, this meta analysis concludes it lockdowns has little to no public health effects. they've imposed enormous economic and socialia costs whee they have been adopted in consequent lockdown policies ill founded and should bere rejected as a pandemic policy instrument. ed sorry for the raised voice wrecked people's lives millions of people's livesx , but tony a fauci said they were absolutely necessary to save millions. remember the fact that we shut down when we t did and the rest of the world did has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives and he's still in charge of mccarry should be in charge i not the surgeon and public health policy researcher at johns hopkins. he joins us tonight. dr, thanks very much for comingm on . it's so frustrating f to read this to read the top line analysis from the study that i'm just going to stop talkingsk and ask you what you make of it. well, it's interesting. there's really only beenne one narrative on this entire topic and

joshua sharfstein of the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health.s what a lot of people are looking for. lisa: you are speaking to a lot of people who also have children, yours truly, and i can say personally that you see the ramifications of this. at the same time, if you look at polls, most people do not want kids in schools to which masks just yet, so how do you create that balance in order to protect their health while also allowing the same degree of items that we enjoyed when we were kids? jonathan: country after country, europe and elsewhere, are dropping restrictions quickly. tom: it is hugely cultural. america is a larger -- frankly rush as well, 6000 miles east to west -- it is region to region, culture to culture. we have seen that in spades. i like the idea that you said that this extends out in many different ways. as lisa mentioned on inflation, what we are not talking about yet is the dispersion of inflation impact. it is very different. jonathan: your equity market down 0.8%. tom has a lot of markers on your bond market. curve flatte

a big study out this week, johns hopkins university did a meta-study of 34 studies that found the lockdown had little to no public health effect. one of the first times i met you , i met this governor who was talking about how lockdowns don't work and it seems like you were kind of educated by johns hopkins. gov. desantis: the open states like florida, michigan, new york, new jersey, we have higher -- they have higher per capita for covid. then you have other states where if you compare california to florida, age-adjusted covid mortality were about the same. they have lower overall covid mortality because they are younger state but they actually have more excess mortality. they have lockdown deaths. lockdowns absolutely had a negative public health effect on people and certainly people who are by and large not inherently at risk for covid. there was never any discussion about that. we have a summer season that goes up, it peaks, it starts coming down. i knew that because i'm following the data. fauci called for florida to lockdown after the infection peak. why the hell would you do that? i

did a bomb shell study from johns hopkins university on lockdowns come up?he study did not come up in the white house briefing. however, federal health officials did say they would welcome a senate -- a proposal in the senate to create a bipartisan task force to look at the origins of kevin and the u.s. response by the trump and biden administrations. take a listen. >> it's important to look at every aspect of this outbreak for lessons learned that is not only what the origin of the virus and the origin of the outbreak is but many other things that we could learn from in the future to prevent something like this happening or respond better if and when it does. >> johns hopkins university published an analysis of data that they gathered from 24 studied and determined that early pandemic restrictions on travel only reduced covid related deaths by 0.2%. while the lock downs have had no health effects, they have had enormous social consequences. lockdowns are ill-founded and should be rejected. the analysis led by three economists did not look at the effect lock

i am glad johns hopkins is doing the study.data, we knew this at the beginning. >> greg: yeah. jamie, do you have any jokes about mortality rates? >> jamie: i probably do. what was in 0.2? those are the only ones that agree that lockdowns should continue, they died. i feel like if there is good data for lockdowns, good data against, shouldn't we have them? you look at the unintended consequences. people overdosing. tiger king. things like that. i was done with that. i'm done with it. we've got to send the kids back. and all seriousness, it's about freedom. i need my kids to go back to school to get my freedom back. >> tyrus: . i would like one study on something that worked. call me when you have a starting when something works. >> kat: could've probably made it worse. they close all the activities. beaches, everything close to. we are not going to not hang out with each other especially in new york. in our teeny tiny apartment she was breathing on each other. >> greg: they poured sand on skateboard parks. that's how mad these

we will speak with johns hopkins university professor jeremy farrell. i look at the future for the future of asian economies. the potential spillover from the war in ukraine. this is bloomberg. haidi: russia's invasion of ukraine is contributing to some of the highest prices ever for commodities. taking a global economy already experiencing decades high inflation. let's get analysis of the potential impact of the conflict on regional economies with our chief asian-pacific correspondent. let's start with the impact of these sanctions and moves more broadly on both russia and the west. >> well, sanctions are of course terribly disturbing to say the least for the russian economy. except that, of course, russian policymakers will react to price blocking in ways that will be more costly capital controls if not even suspension. we already hearing about suspension of payment of foreign currency debt at least. so for russia, this is a massive shock. how much can russia shoulder? this is still an economy of war. this will not substitute all the other issues that

you talked about that johns t hopkins lockdown study that got no attention. sean, i live in the nashville area here in tennessee. you can see it in my background. my kids go toc public school. s i got a fifth grader and a first grader in public school. i livet in franklin and brentwood area directly south of nashville. six months now nashville public schools and i used to be one of these kids i went to 12 public school in nashville have required every kid to wear a mask.nt williamson county has not directly s six months of data. do you know what the data hashe shown williamson countysh and davidson county virtuallyow in distinguishable and people say, well, whyin doo you focusoc on math? i know youusus talk about it on your radio show. d i know the judge does. i doo on on youro on show and ao on my radio show because if you destroy masks in schools, we b get back to normalcy with covid in a quick manner because wearing mask is cosmetic theater. it isn'tsm real and once that disappears, the forces ofap the world lose their power. the cnn and the msnbc, the new