jonah goldberg, i'd like to start with you. as we sort of take in the comments that he had about liz cheney last night suggesting that she be fired upon, see how she likes it. what does this mean at this point in the election cycle? >> yeah. >> well, i mean, i feel like we're triggering brad, who works for a company called on message that he is not exactly on message here um, look uh, i don't think you even need to call it fired upon. he's saying quite explicitly and unambiguously that liz cheney should be shot, should be executed by firing squad. that is appalling. it is a small facet of of the reasons why he's unfit for office. and the republican party has made a disastrous mistake re nominating him all that said, since we're here for the punditry, um i don't know what this gets him. right. if if his problem is freaking out suburban women who don't like the chaos don't like the violent rhetoric and all that kind of stuff, that's just not a great closing argument. let's execute a political opponent who happens to be a woman be

. >> reporter: at least one cnn contributor is retracting his original criticism, jonah goldberg, hected in, quote, haste when he said trump was calling for a firing squad execution. he still doesn't like what trump said but he let his discussed for the comments get the best of him. >> one thing we didn't have an election advent calendars closing argument for kamala harris would be campaigning with the cheese. that has been a focal point of what she's done. donald trump has taken notice of that and part of taking notice of that is pointing out the record of the cheneys, they've gotten us into and dragged out wars that have gotten a lot of americans killed and haven't done a whole lot for the national security of america so in the process of making that argument he said why doesn't lose cheney go and fight. that's the point he made. very clear. if you watch the clip, very clear what he was talking about but the media has said otherwise. will: if you're going to vote for war maybe you should pay the price of war, maybe you should fight in wars, look what this was done, turned into a tr

i even noticed you and your colleague jonah goldberg had a go around it when he admitted he taken itwhat is a shame about that is it's a really good discussion to have about how we fight wars. whether we should be fighting wars without a strategy for success. whether the way we been fighting wars for the last few decades is really in the american interest. that's one of the reasons why people like president trump. when he talks about that, that russ ignites with a lot of veterans. some of those recent interventionalists wars who feel that we should be much wiser about how we handle our foreign policy and minding american interest. we don't get that kind of discussion because people in the media don't want too. much worse than this rhetoric about beating people up is the biden/harris administration actually halle has used a loft arrogance or political opponents. whether those are parents at school board meetings or pro-lifers or protesters or donald trump himself who they tried to remove from the ballot. who they try to imprison. who they try to bankruptcy these are very serious issue

emotional feeling, why him, trump, and not me, whether it is like, i don't know, bill kristol or jonah goldbergrally normal, and then their egos just kind of like, they just took it hard, you've got to let go, guys. >> judge jeanine: you know, jesse, aoc was talking about the working-class. she says after -- our main project is to unite the working-class against this upcoming fascist agenda. we've had an enormous setback. does she not remember that when the fascist was president is when she got elected and that she moved amazon out of her own district for the working-class? >> jesse: she used to be working-class. she was a bartender, and she forgot where she came from, and now she thinks trump is going to put her imprisoned like she has some sort of persecution fantasy because if you are a victim on the left, that gives u status. everyone is jockeying to be the number one dissident in trump's america. greg talks about this all the time about how people need to get a life, and they think trump is son, and that everything revolves around trump, so they frame everything about how they relate to tr

♪♪ >>> conservative columnist jonah goldberg has a piece for the "los angeles times" saying victorioushis mandate is, at least some of the people who voted for him will have different ideas, save for dealing with inflation and righting the economy. there's very little he can do that won't result in some people saying this isn't what i voted for. once again a victorious party is sticking its head in the mandate trap. in the 21st century, president's win elections because their opponents were unpopular, yurval levin writes. and then imagine the party hasn't endorsed their party activis activists' agenda, they make themselves unpopular. this is why the incumbent party lost for the third time in a row, a feat not seen since the 19th century, hence the irony of the mandate trap. in theory, trump could solidify his build on his winning coalition, but that would require disappointing the people insisting he has a mandate to do whatever he wants, which is why it's unlikely to happen. >> the thing is, mike barnicle, donald trump obviously, this is a victory, as we've said, that belongs to donal

. >> jonah goldberg always calls me the hair specs, which i think means like somebody who literally reads entrails to determine the future for the early vote in nevada. there's your entrails. i am nothing if not evocative. and that's a state where republicans are looking at this early vote data coming in and with all of the warning labels and disclaimers, it's one where they're saying, oh, this actually looks pretty good and it's the kind of place that has so many working class, latino, et cetera. exactly the type of voter if a realignment is happening, nevada is a place where donald trump may. >> but it should, if they behave, the states run from michigan and nevada as the most democratic of the seven to north carolina and georgia as the most republican. are we likely to see them get out of order because that puts wisconsin and pennsylvania as the tipping point states, right? one way or the other. do you think they are going to get out of order? >> sure. >> you think trump could win nevada and lose georgia? >> i think a wide range of outcomes are possible. [laughter] >> i wanted to ask y

something about donald trump that whenever she spoke to people i thought were always false light to jonah goldberg's of the world in mcconnell's of the world. these were leading figures in the republican party. my neighbors in washington d.c. where republicans so here are trump comes out of nowhere and he seems to be gaining traction in people who'd never even voted at all came to say it sounds like great news if you're trying to expand your political party after republicans in washington were so offended by trump they couldn't even talk about them. i remember being at a christmas party in 2015 with my app for mentioned sweet wife at my neighbors house with a bunch of people sitting around. i mentioned my wife says i like trump. everyone of my neighbor said you like trump, that's hilarious. is that bad and it was the getting splashed with water. they move back slowly staring at her like is this person dangerous? that was such a shocking thing to say in northwest d.c. in 2015. i wondered why donald trump was so threatening. is it because he has some extremist program? no. everything you said was mode

terms of pete hegseth allowing to go into your community and round up people illegally and what jonah goldbergbout will he overinterpret the mandate? he ran on this stuff. he wasn't hiding the ball on this stuff. voters voted for it and he is reason reason to say this is what they asked for and i'm going to give it to him and that will be justified. i do think a backlash it because i don't know if voters these things and they are googling what is a tariff after the election and might be smart to google it before the election but whatever. that is what we have. so that could end up being the thing that sparks a backlash. people see the price of goods are going up because of tariffs and people who traditionally are helping you pick the vegetables from the ground have been deported and, suddenly, things are more costly and, wait this guy said he would get ntl of costs. these are all of the things we are waiting for and we will see how fast trump moves on january 21st and we will see how much he interprets the mandate as something he should pursue or something he should operate towards as a long-t