jonathan lemire joins us from new york city. joining at the table, ayesha rascoe of npr and jonathan swan of axios. thank you for being here. this was a busy newsweek, but we want to start with what happened in florida. president biden traveled to florida. he sat with ron desantis. these two men could face each other in a presidential election in 2024. where do you think things go from here, and what did you make of that bipartisanship, that rare glimpse of it? ayesha: it shows the difference between when you are running for office, running for election, and you are a governor. generally when you are a governor and dealing with a crisis or catastrophe in your state, you need that federal help so you are not trying to pick fights help and you are grateful when you get it. we saw the same thing with chris christie after hurricane sandy. he was criticized because he had very nice to say about then president obama because of the help his state got when they were hit right this terrible disaster. i do not think it lasts beyond now, bu

jonathan lemire, jonathan lemire, oh my god, it was a bad choice.there, mika. >> thank you. >> whereas a few of us, we were -- i was traveling with the president this weekend in delaware, he spent the weekend in wilmington, we were in the hold in a cafe, all gathered around the tv watching and people were shouting and screaming. although most people i was with new which uniform each team was wearing. >> roger bennett we're going to get to you in a minute and going through all this. but just wanted to get you off the top as current u.s. citizen, always self-hating englishman when it comes to football. boy, they -- they were dominated, i hate to say it. but for about 115, is 10 out of the 120 minutes they were dominated. gareth southgate forever going to be questioned why he got two 12-year-olds to come in that haven't played since 1973 to have the final two kicks. >> i feel so bad for them. >> some questionable moves for them. but at the end of the day, after the first five to ten minutes italy was just heartbreaking superior. >> i ride with team ame

jonathan lemire -- >> right. >> jonathan lemire katty was talking about the big countries with the bignvest, doing better in the medal count. i will say that's one thing that's really different from say 20 years ago before we had the technology, before we had all the money that was poured into training day in and day out, year in and year out for all of these athletes, the richer the country, the bigger the country, the better chance you have to win a gold medal, not a lot of bulgarians or people from smaller countries breaking through and winning gold medals in swimming. >> no. australia would have to count as a small country in this conversation. they've certainly done well in some of the swimming events. but you're right, it's about technology, resources, equipment and the divides between the haves and have notes. probably more pronounced this year coming out of the pandemic, where you have more athletes vaccinated from the american side than most other countries. you have people who have had probably more regular training routines in the months prior to the olympics. everyone had t

jonathan lemire, susan page, long time usa today washington bureau chief. and cynthia oxny, former federal prosecutor in the civil rights division of the justice department. susan, with all of the progress we made on this virus watching our country now take such a big step backwards, what a test for this or any presidency. >> and of course for joe biden the success of his presidency to some degree now depends on convincing voters who didn't vote for him, who don't trust him to go ahead and take this vaccine that they have been so resistant to. it's flummoxing, right? we've managed to get vaccines that work, that are safe and that are effective, and now the task turns out to be i think more difficult than the white house imagined to convince -- the white house has not reached its goal of 70% vaccination rate by now. that is a disappointment to them and a warning sign. it's hard to do other things unless and until this pandemic is under better control. >> jonathan lemire, i don't have to remind you governors hardly act as a pac along party lines, but they do

i'm jonathan lemire on this friday, july 30th. we've got a lot going on.'s get started. >>> faced with a surging number of coronavirus cases, president biden has announced sweeping new requirements for millions of federal workers. under the new policy, federal government employees and members of the military will have go sign forms acknowledging they've been vaccinated or else they'll have to comply with new rules for masking, weekly testing, social distancing, and more. the president is also urging state and local governments to offer $100 to anyone will ig to get the shot voluntarily. speaking from the east room yesterday, biden delivered a sharp rebuke to those still unvaccinated and emphasized the fight is still far from over. >> nearly all of the cases, hospitalizations and deaths due to covid-19 today, are from unvaccinated people. last month a study showed that over 99% of covid-19 deaths have been among the unvaccinated. 99%. this is an american tragedy. people are dying and will die who don't have to die. if you're out there unvaccinated, you don'

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we know that's not true, jonathan lemire. we're about to collapse.uld see it a couple nights ago in oakland. true we've won nine out of ten games, we're ahead of the new york yankees by ten just before the all-star break, true our relief pitching for the most part has been excellent but you dig into that one loss in ten games a couple nights ago in oak oakland you can see the beginning of the end from this franchise. i suspect we're moving down to triple a. they're lulling us into this false sense of security and when it's time to go around the home stretch, going to go right past you. >> they got us where they want us joe. it's interesting that you suggest relegation, which is a staple of english soccer leagues would now come to major league baseball. does seem like it's the red sox's fate and sad future. i will say on joey chestnut, america is backs. that's what that is. >> yes, yes, we are. >> i can't even watch those. >> so gross. >> i can't do it. i know he's the tom brady of that sport, except he's not like tom brady in any way. >> that's not a

vidal, white house reporter for associated press jonathan lemire. to signal what the best steps are to keep you safe. a vaccine in a mer cal fashion and speed was created to protect all of us. yet, so many americans will not get the vaccine. we see the spike. it's a question we have been talking with you for a couple weeks now. what is there left to do? the governors are speaking. the senators are speaking. minsters, pastors, football coaches. everyone is saying all these trusted people are saying, please go get the vaccine for the benefit of our community. yet, millions of americans are not. community yet, millions of americans are not. >> reporter: yeah, willie, it's frustration. honestly, it feels unanimous with healthcare people and we need to take harder stances around the macdebate. i think we've tried when we had the release for vaccinated people. the science is incredibly sound. we didn't have a delta variant surge or an unpredictable way of who is vaccinated or not. we have obvious evidence it's not working. we are seeing higher transmissio

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so jonathan lemire, you're a long time patriots fan, a tom brady fan, of course, he knew exactly whating yesterday. there's been sort of in the background for him this question of whether he was a trump guy, robert craft, the patriots owner gave him a make america great again hat at one point which was sitting in his locker behind him during a series of interviews. he has dodged any political questions but certainly made his statement yesterday at the white house. >> yeah, brady, and trump were friends before trump really got into politics, you know, on the golf circuit and so on, but brady has quietly and consistently distanced himself from trump, even though we heard trump talk about brady, praise brady, suggested that ivanka trump should have been with brady. meanwhile, his own wife made clear in interviews that the two of them did not vote for trump but this was remarkable that brady was so public about this yesterday, and to do so in a really amusing manner. he was funny, also handsome, and i think the sound we just heard was the remote being hurled across the living room residen

jonathan lemire for the ap, a pulmonologist and global health policy expert and former obama campaign manager, all three msnbc contributors. jonathan, i start with you. what is the latest on not just how we got here but what the conversations look like inside the west wing ahead of today's announcement? >> we will be hearing from the president very soon. he will unveil a number of steps to address head-on the issue we're seeing in the country right now, the surging coronavirus cases particularly among the unvaccinated, and he is trying to set an example with the federal workforce, unveil new restrictions for federal workers. those they need to attest whether or not they are vaccinated. if not mask requirements, testing, their ability to travel on the job will be limited. it is certainly steps on the way to encourage them to get these inohm racials and they hope the private sector follows suit. companies are within their right. the first federal agency to adopt similar measures could follow receipt but not just yet. the white house also has directed the department of defense to explore

it is thursday, july 22nd, the ap's jonathan lemire is still with us. today. over the past two weeks covid-19 cases nearly tripled in the united states amid an onslaught of vaccine misinformation. it is putting some hospitals at a tipping point. meanwhile, concerns are mounting over the covid delta variant and its affect on children and the unvaccinated. this comes after an alarming report of a 5-year-old boy from georgia who died from covid-19 without any underlying conditions. >>> also, a small controversial new study is calling into question one of the vaccine's effectiveness against the delta variant. gabe gutierrez has the latest. >> reporter: as the u.s. sees a thousand new covid infections every hour, a new study suggests that the one shot johnson & johnson vaccine may be less effective against the delta variant. and that the 13 million people who've received it may need a booster. the cdc does not recommend that and the study is facing backlash because it's not been peer reviewed and has a small sample size of 27 people. johnson & johnson said i

i'm jonathan lemire on this thursday, july 29th. let's start with the news. >>> folks, they've got a deal. senators celebrated yesterday after finally coming to an agreement on a $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. the break came after weeks of disagreements over sticking points such as transportation funding and how to pay for it. chuck schumer held a vote exactly one week after the previous vote failed. it passed with every democrat and 17 republicans including minority leaders mitch mcconnell signing on. >> despite the popularity of it and the need for it, washington hasn't been able to get it done. this time we're going to get it done. >> it's a matter of building a relationship and having trust. i trust each one of them with my political life, i really do, because i know we want the same thing, what's best for our country. >> this group of senators is proposing to the olympic committee that the next new olympic sport be closing a bipartisan infrastructure deal, and i think tonight we -- what's it called? stuck to landin

that jonathan lemire, laura k. signs when the old washington redskins would play football and it would say bring baseball back to d.c. they will be doing that again this fall for the washington area football team, whatever they calm themselves. fire sale yesterday. while nobody was looking, they basically sold off the nationals and red sox and the dodgers were all beneficiaries. >> this is the national team. they won two years ago, 20 nanny. it's shocking how quickly they dismantled it. the richest owner in major league baseball. it's always been a sore spot among nats fans, they don't always pay their players like others should. we saw our red sox will take kyle schwerber. he had a home run streak. he, though, is on the injured list and probably will be for a couple weeks. that's seen by the sox' effort to match what the yarpg yankees. the big trade, not quite official yet, rumors, the nats are close to sending matt scherzer, their ace return both of them to an already loaded dodgers fan. >> yeah, that's going to

joining me now are senior reporter ben collins and white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lemireart with you. why do you think we're seeing this sudden about face from republican leadership? why decide now to openly encourage people to get the vaccine? although you had senator rubio saying he's encouraging it from the start, it has not been the case for the broader gop and some of the other leaders. >> right. there have been some exceptions and to be fair, senate minority leader mcconnell has been on this from the beginning. he contracted polio as a child. he knows how important vaccines are. so he's been on it. but he's been a lonely voice on this and lot of republicans were either reluctant to talk about it at all or spectacle of the vaccine. it's not entirely clear what the shift is but it seems obvious it's the delta variant and how contagious it is and where the delta variant is running rampant which is are unvaccinated pockets of the country in the south and west, rural areas that largely are republican areas, polling suggests it's republicans who are indeed spectacle of th

. >>> joining us we have reporter for the associated press jonathan lemire. and associated editor of "the washington post," eugene robinson. >> it's been six months now, obviously, jonathan lemire, the white house, joe biden, obviously trying to move forward, obviously trying to get legislation passed, but stubbornly a lot of the conspiracy theories that were borne out of that riot and that insurrection stay with us. and unfortunately the president has to deal with the republicans every day that are in united states congress who still believe that these were just, quote, tourists. we've heard that from extremists in the senate, extremists in the house, and very little push back from leadership. >> joe, these images are both hard to watch and essential to watch. to truly understand what happened that day. there certainly has been such a consistent effort from many, not all but many, republicans to whitewash what happened that day, to turn the page, ignore it, downplay it. you see this footage and that becomes impossible. it's so important for the work "the new

i'm jonathan lemire on this thursday, july 22nd.ll start with the news. >> over the past two weeks, covid-19 cases nearly tripled in the united states amid an onslaught of vaccine misinformation. it's putzing some hospitals at a tipping point. meanwhile concerns are mounting over the covid deta variant. this comes after an alarming report of a child who died. it's calling on the vaccine's effectiveness against the delta strain. nbc's gabe gutierrez has the latest. >> reporter: as the u.s. sees a thousand new covid cases every hour, a new study suggests that the one shot, johnson & johnson vaccine may be less effective against the delta variant and those who received it may need a booster. the cdk does not recommend it. the study is facing a backlash. j&j says its own study shows its vaccine offers strong protection. >> this is a small study done in a laboratory, not in the real environment. >> growing concern over the highly contagious strain. new york city announced it will now require all 42,000 employees of city-run hospitals to

i even jonathan lemire. there's a lot going on. we'll start with the news.re's an elevated concern about the spread of the delta variant among the unvaccinated across the u.s. after months of progress. with a spike in new infections and hospitalizations, major hospitals are preparing for an influx of patients, if they don't already have them. nbc news national correspondent miguel almaguer has more. >> reporter: painting a grim picture of the new reality inside some hospitals, the numbers from the cdc reflect our nation slowly slipping back toward crisis as we surpass 50,000 infections a day. new cases, hospitalizations, even daily deaths are speaking again. >> it is one of the most infectious respiratory viruses we know of and i have seen in my 20-year career. >> reporter: struggling to contain the delta variant, florida, texas, and missouri, three states with lower vaccination rates, now account for 40% of the nation's new cases. one kansas hospital turning away patients as they struggle to manage their own caseload. >> we're kind of at a tipping point. we

jim messina, jonathan lemire, eugene scott, thank you for being here. pledging key votes for the president's infrastructure deal and with all things in d.c., there is, of course, a catch. two members of the problem solvers caucus join me next on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. when technology is easier to use... ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪ why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? because a quality night's sleep is scientifically proven to help boost performance. to deliver our technology as-a-service. introducing the new sleep number 360 smart bed, the only bed that effortlessly adjusts to both of you. proven quality sleep is life-changing sleep. think of what peanuts have given humanity! fuel for vast migrations! sustenance for mountaineering expeditions and long journeys across the world! but most importantly? they give us something to eat when we drink beer. planters. a nut above. >>> welcome back. prominent conservatives are putting pressure on republican

ashley parker, jonathan lemire, and professor melissa murray of nyu who was a law clerk for justice sonia sotomayor. welcome to all three of you. thank you for joining us tonight. ashley, i want to start with something charlie sykes wrote about in the bulwark about the gop and voting restrictions. he says i hope democrats are not putting too much confidence in the biden economy, the infrastructure bill will overcome the social issues as well as the attack on the elections because this is something that the gop is completely behind and the base is very motivated and very fired up to do, which i can't remember anything quite like this. he's saying the gop is fully fully behind this voter suppression voter restriction stuff, and the economy and infrastructure be damned for now. >> he's not entirely -- or he's not wrong, rather. speaking to his point, cultural issues -- you could put the voting restrictions into that -- are incredibly important in the republican party. you'll see in former president trump harping on things like critical race theory and thinking that those are winners for his

let's bring in white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire. jonathan, there obviously are a lot of implications to how the biden administration approaches this crisis. obviously diplomatic and also geopolitical and domestic considerations as well. the biden administration can't be seen sitting back as these protests go on 90 miles south of florida. >> no, joe. we heard encouraging words from the president yesterday in terms of supporting the protests, the demonstrators. taking a different tone that his former boss, barack obama, who sought to ease tensions with cuba to sort of normalize some relations there, even with the castro regime. that all went away under former president donald trump, who reimposed tough sanctions. many of which these restrictions, the u.s. government under biden have not yet released, have not yet changed, rolled back. i pressed press secretary jen psaki about that yesterday and she pointed to other aid that had gone there. i asked about the vaccine, cited as one of the issues in cuba, they were ravaged by the pandemic,

it's jonathan lemire.delivering a major address on this, turning up pressure, but they're looking more towards legal remedies. they seem to be skeptical of the math in the senate as to whether one of these bills could get passed. can you tell us about the specifics of the discussion yesterday and would it be acceptable to you if that federal voting rights legislation is not passed and other parts of the strategy are endorsed instead? >> we have to have federal legislation to pass. it is not an option. what's happening in -- with these state laws across the country. we talk a lot about the impact of the voter suppression, making it harder to vote. but one of the things, one of our leaders in florida -- not florida, excuse me, georgia, helen butler, she sits on a board, lives in athens, georgia, been active on her local board of election for years it's something you try to keep nonpartisan or some cases bipartisan. that bill passed in georgia also allowed for them to take people like helen butler off the boa

so jonathan lemire, what is their end game here?ething or threatened to do something like arrest them that is simply not possible. >> yeah. the threat for arrest obviously without jurisdictional rights, it's a political show. it's a way to sort of stir up passions and play to the base. there's no teeth to that. but certainly what we're seeing here is these texas state democrats have come to washington and been embraced by democrats on the federal level. we saw them on capitol hill yesterday. they met with a variety of the democrat leadership there, and they met with vice president kamala harris who let's remember this administration has appointed to be their lead person on their effort to defend the right to vote. and she praised their efforts, praised their courage, and she spoke again about just how important it is for americans to understand what's happening in these now more than a dozen states, how it's become harder to vote in some of those places and how there's less ability to trust that the states will, indeed, process your

and white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lemire. mika has the morning off.s and if we do, we certainly will hear about it. it will suggest that we're somehow hopelessly naive. but it is important for americans. it is important for the world to see the president and the governor of florida sitting down, being polite to each other, agreeing with each other that they're on the same team. that they're working together to alleviate the terrible pain, the terrible suffering that these families are going through in florida. we also saw it earlier this week when we saw mitch mcconnell, yes mitch mcconnell, i could say his words, i promise you know one watching will disappear or be turned into a pile of ashes, when mitch mcconnell said some nice things about joe biden and his relationship with joe biden. are there fights going on in washington? yes? . are we going through a very political winter from january 6th? yes. yes, there are reasons to be discouraged as we look all around. but also let's look for reasons to be hopeful. and i thought yesterday, willie -- was o

and jonathan lemire, this is my next point. obviously we're going to be talking to experts throughout the week about this. but the delta variant and the vaccinated are being impacted and those who are unvaccinated who are allowing this virus to fester through the country. people who have been responsible and gotten their vaccines are now being stricken. >> that's right. what we see in this texas case, we have seen a number of republicans seizing on this and suggesting -- blaming them. there's a picture that went around last week when they arrived from washington, they were on a flight and weren't wearing their masks. this may hinder their ability to have meetings while in d.c. we know they met with vice president harris at the end of last week. her office said she is fine. she did not reach the threshold where she has to quarantine. and there had been talk of meeting with president biden this week. but that may get more complicated considering the positive cases. but there's no question what we're seeing with the delta variant

let's bring in reporter jonathan lemire, associate editor of "the washington post", eugene robinson, and curt bar della, a columnist for "usa today" and "the new york times." good morning to all of you. jonathan let me start with you. kevin mccarthy was going to nod to the base we knew that. but three of the five, majority of his picks, voted to contest the november election. >> three of the picks, willie, did so and they did so after the insurrection. the vote came after the rioters breached the capitol. so it's a clear signal here from republican leader kevin mccarthy as to which direction he wants to take the hearings. sure two of the members there, didn't do that. they didn't vote to decertify. they did go along with the democratic process and acknowledge that joe biden was indeed elected president. jim jordan, as we know, is one of former president trump's most vocal defenders and has been willing to say untruths in order to defend the president, and we know he still speaks to the former president frequently. so there's no sense that the house speaker nancy pelosi will object to

i'm jonathan lemire. >>> the clock is ticking on infrastructure, and senate majority leader chuck schumerromise to set up a procedural vote tomorrow. he reminded republicans voting to continue to debate on the bill without a finished text has happened before in the united states senate. >> the motion to proceed on wednesday is simply about getting laej lative process started here on the senate floor. it is not a deadline to determine every final detail of the bill. all the yes vote on the motion to proceed means is that the senate is ready to begin debating and amending a bipartisan infrastructure bill, no more, no less. >> for the bill to move forward, nearly all republicans involved in negotiations will need to vote in favor so it can overcome the 60-vote requirement. president biden sounded frustrated when he said, quote, we should be united on the passage of the bipartisan bill that we shook hands on. republican senators are already saying tomorrow's infrastructure vote will not pass. the fast timeline was an attempt by the senate majority leader. the republicans said that's no chance

jonathan lemire, you do that every day. thank you for spending time with us. little longer. up next for us, michigan is opening an investigation into those who have pushed false claims about the 2020 election results. why that state's attorney general does not plan on letting those individuals get away with it. don't go anywhere. balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete! with 30 grams of protein. ensure complete! verizon launched the first 5g network, and now we want to be the first to give everyone the joy of 5g with a new 5g phone on us. old customers. new customers. every customer. from these bakers to these bakers. new 5g phones when you trade in your old one. age-related macular degeneration may lead to severe vision loss. so the national eye institute did 20 years of clinical studies on a formula only found in preservision. if it were my vision, i'd ask my doctor about preservision. it's the most studied eye vitamin brand. if it were my vision, i'd look into preservision.

with that, let's bring in our leadoff guests on this thursday night, jonathan lemire, paul butler, currentlyrofessor of law at georgetown, and clinton watts, a former fbi special agent and a distinguished fellow at the foreign policy research institute. let's talk about this book. these revelations are absolutely crazy. but you covered a lot of crazy in the trump white house for four straight years. when you read even just some of these quotes today, where do you rate them on a scale of this is unbelievable? >> good to see you. for a long time those of us who covered the trump administration sort of thought there was the big three of days, that we would forever define this presidency despite the fact that he could generate headlines and controversies dozens of times a day. there was always -- it was charlottesville, it was helsinki and it was the children in the cages. all of that was eclipsed by his response to the covid pandemic and, of course, january 6th. this is a terrific work of reporting from our friends, congrats to them, and it's hard to know where to begin. we certainly were aware

. >> thank you to the three of you for kicking us off ashley parker, jonathan lemire and melissa murray. well as the retired admiral who once as the nato mission there. the politically calculated outrage on the right over biden administration's latest effort to reassure people about vaccines. the 11th hour is just getting underway, on a thursday night. ay, on a thursday night. why not both? visibly diminish wrinkled skin in... crepe corrector lotion... only from gold bond. flowers are fighters. that's why the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just like we will. join the fight at alz.org/walk ♪ watch the olympic games on xfinity ♪ ♪ root for team usa and feel the energy ♪ ♪ 7000 plus hours of the olympics on display ♪ ♪ with xfinity you get every hour of every day ♪ ♪ different sports on different screens, ♪ ♪ you can watch it anywhere ♪ ♪ and with the voice remote ♪ ♪ you never have to leave your chair ♪ show me team usa. ♪ all of this innovation could lead to some inspiration ♪ ♪ and you might be the next one t

joining our conversation jonathan lemire, white house reporter and an msnbc political analyst, eugeneack with us. eugene, i just want to you react to "the washington post" report. $75 million. that's an incredible sum of money much less an incredible sum to raise off a lie. it feels like the presidency may be over but the grift goes on. >> well, i'm not hearing shock in your voice. i'm not seeing it on your face or on john's face. the grift goes on. i was surprised that donald trump raised all that money and is using it himself, is using itselfishly. the most we've ever seen in our life. you might feel sorry for the people who are giving all this money thinking that it is going to fight this imaginary voter fraud when, in fact, it's going to pay for trump's staff and his travel and whatever else. but they should know by now that that is what would inevitably happen and that's who he is. >> what i feel, eugene, is worry for our democracy and i know you share that concern. jonathan, i want to talk about the latest brennan center report. the big lie good for trump's bottom line. 18 state