. >> jonathan lemire and elise jordan are still with us for the fourth hour of "morning joe." we're going to dive right into the new revelations exposed last night at the public hearing by the january 6th house select committee held in prime time. the panel carefully went through what former president donald trump did and did not do as violent rioters furiously stormed the capitol. committee members shared several damning new details, including trump's own children begging him to stop the insurrection. secret service officers protecting then vice president mike pence preparing to say goodbye to their families and used lethal options to clear a path to safety. and as the violent and deadly riot raged around trump, he sat cloistered in a private dining room in the white house next to the oval office, watching fox news. he did not call for help. instead, he called up republican senators in an effort to delay the electoral count. he continued with his attempts to steal an election he lost. the committee highlighted how former president trump did not try to calm down or stop his su

it is, jonathan lemire, i know you have a question. but first, i just want to say, again, jonathan, following a key event, i mean, you know, i've worked -- i've worked in government. you know, you would -- even as a member, chief of staff would go around if there was something requested. and would tell everybody, hey, get your data together. get your information together. protect it. i mean, this is what happens. not only in government. this is what happens in the private sector, when people demand document requests. you know, if you destroyed information, there's liability attached to it here. and, again, this whole idea, i mean, did the director of dhs really say, oh, well, this is planned. everything is -- i mean -- i'm sure somebody planned to have tea and crumpets on the white house lawn like, you know, between -- you know, i'm sure that they planned to have some very nice get-together between the president and the incoming president. or they had other things planned under normal circumstances. that presidents do when they're turni

jonathan lemire. energy costs front of mine for so many. and that is going to be potentially addressed in the revived build back better. i know we don't call it back any more. but the revived legislation that is currently being negotiated in congress with senator manchin and others. give us an update as to how close that is coming to fruition and what help could it provide? >> well i won't get into negotiations here. they're ongoing. what i would say from an economic perspective is if you think about where we are, and to joe's point the uncertainty that americans are feeling, the single most constructive thing that congress could do right now is to take concrete actions to lower prices that american families are facing. and also lower the federal deficit which would be complementary to what the fed is trying to do. prescription drugs another issue, bringing prices down to reduce federal spending by letting medicare negotiate for prescription drug prices and bring down utility bills while providing long-term technology neutral incentives and

jonathan lemire and elise jordan are still with us for the hour.have a lot to get to, including the big story we've been covering all morning. the secret service text messages from around the time of the january 6th attack on the us capitol were deleted despite requests from congress and federal investigators that they be preserved. we'll have the latest on that in just a moment. also ahead, new details on the war in ukraine as the white house says it has intelligence indicating russia is taking steps to annex parts of the country. the former president of ukraine about this latest news. >>> and cancelled, chronic delays, scores of lost luggage. can this summer's travel woes get any worst? one small airplane has a possible solution to all of this. >>> we start with the growing controversy over the secret service text messages and the january 6th attack on the capitol. a source tells nbc news the secret service has no new text messages related to the january 6th insurrection to hand over to the house select committee investigating the attack. that re

with us, we have the white house bureau chief at "politico" and the host of "way too early," jonathan lemire, who never gets off television. five hours a day, no problem. he just keeps going. >> jonathan is probably tired this morning. watched a baseball game last night. a couple baseball games this weekend. >> no, he didn't stay up. >> you know, we somehow split with the yankees. despite all the money they spend, jonathan, it was inspiring. >> yeah. and surprising. the red sox got crushed thursday and friday against what we can only call the juggernaut from the bronx, joe, with its $7.4 billion payroll. >> greatest team ever. >> greatest team ever. >> yeah. >> yet, these scrappy, hungry, just happy to be here red sox pulled off comeback victories both saturday and sunday. >> i think i can. i think i can. greatest team ever, mind you. >> yeah. >> sorry, ever. >> they had help from a red sox player named jeter, which we're getting used to. jeter downs named after derek jeter. i think he was a shortstop for the yankees years ago. i forget. >> i don't know. >> shorthanded. devers didn't play. w

jonathan lemire, one more point on the witness tampering. it seems from the experience that joe and i have had, willie perhaps, as well, with donald trump, it fits a pattern. making a call, thinking you can try and talk someone into maybe, you know, trying to smooth something over. i remember time and time again, the man being shocked that a phone call wouldn't change the way we covered a story. he is extremely undisciplined and has this sort of sense of power of himself that he thinks he can push through whatever he wants done, even if it's not correct. it'll be very interesting to hear more about that phone call and who that witness is. next thursday's primetime hearing is the last one on the schedule, but the committee is not ruling out future hearings this summer. they're wide open to more. the chairman pointed out to that surprise june 28th hearing with cassidy hutchinson, saying, quote, something could come up. another member of the committee said additional hearings would, quote, depend on where the evidence takes us. ali, i've heard

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. we have a lot to get to this morning. but we begin with breaking news from overseas. we're following reports that british prime minister boris johnson may resign today. this news comes amid a wave of resignations in his government and calls for him to step down. and taking a look at the famed front door there at 10 downing street in london. downing street spokesperson told nbc news that the prime minister will make a statement to the country later today. >>> joining us now live from downing street, we have nbc news senior reporter alexander smith. thanks for hustling to be there for us this morning. what's the latest, what can you tell us about the situation there? >> this is really an extraordinary and unprecedented situation now. we have widespread reports that prime minister boris johnson will be resigning today. what we know from his spokesperson on the record is that he will be preparing to make a statement to the country in the next few hours. that really is quite an ominous sign. this coming after more than 50 memb

i'm jonathan lemire. and we're going to be starting with breaking news out of japan. where the country's former prime minister, shinzo abe, is reportedly in critical condition, after being shot twice. officials say abe was campaigning for a candidate ahead of japan's upcoming house of counselors elections, when he was shot from behind. once to the back. and once in the neck. and with what appeared to be a homemade gun. both reports suggesting abe's condition is very grim at this moment. this happened in the city of nara, about 20 miles southeast of osaka. the chaos from the shooting and the subsequently takedown of the man police say carried out the attack was caught on camera. we want to warn you though, that you may find this video very disturbing. y find this video vey >> abe shot mid speech. he was immediately air-lifted to a near by hospital. after officials say he went into a state of cardiac arrest. the suspect, according to police there, is a former member of japan's navy. speaking to the country

i'm jonathan lemire.for joining us. the secret service is now saying text messages that may have been able to corroborate some of the events of january 6th are likely gone forever. after being issued a subpoena by the house select committee investigating the attack, the agency had enough yesterday to turn over its records from january 5th and 6th of 2021 that it said had been accidentally erased. but after initially being hopeful that the data could be recovered, committee member stephanie murphy revealed otherwise on msnbc last night. >> we received a letter today that did provide us with a lot of documents and some data. however, we did not receive the additional text messages that we were looking for. they received four requests from congressional committees on january 16th to preserve records. and they have this planned migration for the 25th, i believe, of january. and nobody along the way stopped and thought, well, maybe we shouldn't do the migration of data and of the devices until we are able to f

that was some crazy stuff here, jonathan lemire.hat before in my life. except once or twice. >> the composure of a champion there, djokovic is flappable on court and he's melting down. it is such a shame. an electric player and talented but his lack of -- holds him back and he hits the finals only to collapse in this way. it was an entering match. not to say that he didn't play well, but his emotions got the best of him here. and think to be a djokovic or nadal, he will need to keep this in check. you don't see him yelling at his own box that much. >> not that much. but the thing is, it was a great match. through the first three and a half sets. unfortunately he got in his own head and he choked and double faulted yet and in the fourth set tiebreaker, and just lost it and calling the match with john mcenroe known for his outbursts, right. but as mcenroe explained yesterday, when he had outbursts, he did it strategically. and it helped him. it wasn't the case yesterday with the outburst getting in the way of him. but i get mcenroe, s

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for joining us. >>> we begin with tonight's eighth hearing from the house january 6th committee investigating the attack on the capitol. it is set for 8:00 p.m. eastern and is expected to last about two hours. the committee says it is likely to be the final of this round of hearings. but more are likely to be scheduled around the release of two reports later this year. the committee chair bennie thompson will lead the hearing and he will do so remotely after testing positive for covid on tuesday. the hearing will focus on what the committee calls a former president trump's dereliction of duty. and a minute by minute account of what happened inside the white house between trump's rally at the ellipse and his tweet finally telling the capitol rioters to go home. the "washington post" is reporting this morning that the public could see outtakes from trump's january 7th remarks attempting to condemn the rioters. and the paper says the committee plans to drive home a key point. not

i'm jonathan lemire. we appreciate you being with us.half hour with more on that deadly shooting at a july 4th parade in suburban chicago. a gunman opened fire, from a rooftop in highland park, illinois. spraying bullets into a crowd of specta. ateastix people were killed. and dozens more were injured. after an eight-hour man hunt, authorities announced that a person of interest had been apprehended. this video here appears to show his arrest after a brief chase with police. let's go live once more to nbc's jay gray who is in highland park this morning, for us, jay, what more can you tell us there? >> reporter: good morning, jonathan. look, the area is still locked down, as you would expect. both the state, local, and federal agents on the ground, to continue their investigation. after yesterday's massacre. six killed. more than two dozen injured. a fourth of july tradition in this small chicago suburb, suddenly turning tragic. >> the fourth of july celebration quickly shifts to chaos. >> all of a sudden you hear these howitzer-type nois

again, that is the crazy thing, jonathan lemire. we have known since columbine, there is a rule, it is cut and dry, you don't sit and wait and let the shooter go in and try to talk them out. if there is an active shooter, you go in after the active shooter. and to be blunt, if there are people in the hallway that are bleeding, you step over them and you run to the active shooter and you take the active shooter down first. everything else is secondary after that. we've had that knowledge for over 20 years. police officers and these images, i've got to say, it is hard to be shocked by anything any more. but i'm shocked by that. i'm also shocked by the ineptitude and callousness from the state of texas. >> and i believe we have william bratton on the show the day after the shooting and he detailed what you said, that columbine had never happened before and there was no blueprint and the officers' inability to take down the shooters were forgiven. but since that play, there has been a playbook, it is depressing that one has to exist, bu

i'm jonathan lemire. it is friday, july 29th. thanks for being here. let's get started with the news. we begin on capitol hill where senate democrats are racing against the clock to pass a wide-ranging spending bill through the process of reconciliation. with just about a week to go before congress leaves for a month-long recess, a source says that senate majority leader chuck schumer called on his caucus to stick together during a closed door meeting yesterday. just one day earlier schumer and west virginia democrat joe manchin sent shot waves through congress by -- shock waves through congress by introducing the inflation reduction act of 2022 seemingly out of left field. planning to bring it to a vote at the senate floor next week and democrats are expressing cautious optimism about the chances of moving forward and that includes president biden who had this to say at the white house yesterday. >> i know it can be sometimes seem like nothing gets done in washington. and i know that never crossed any of

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being here. >>> there are new developments with the justice department's investigation into the january 6th attack. two top aides to former vice president mike pence have testified before a federal grand jury. mark short who was pence's chief of staff and greg jacob, pence's counsel at the white house was subpoenaed by the department of justice, short was with the former vice president during the insurrection. nbc news cameras set up for steve bannon's trial recorded short and his attorney leaving the federal courthouse on friday. short and jacob are the highest-ranking trump administration officials known to have cooperated with the d.o.j.'s investigation. both men have given testimony to the january 6th committee. jacob was a live witness during a hearing last month. >>> a striking moment set to happen in washington today. former president donald trump will return to the nation's capital for the first time since marine one carried him away from the white house on the morn

2022, but undoubtedly in 2024 as well. >> well, we'll see how those candidates do come november, jonathan lemire tonight. and, congratulations on your new book out tomorrow. the big lie, election chaos, political opportunism and the state of american politics after 2020. thanks, jonathan. >> coming up next, it might feel like we're reliving the 70s these days. but, in this case, it is not a bad thing. when the 11th hour continues. ♪ ♪ ♪ tinues ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the first time she opened her mouth and sang, summertime, and i saw her be bursting to tears, and everybody in the room catch their breath, because she decided to sing, decided to sing, you know? i knew she -- >> the last thing before we go tonight. the return of an icon. as mother jones so eloquently puts it, unequivocally, good things don't tend to happen these days. moments so impervious to the horrors of modern-day living, that they managed to break the sense that everything sucks. but such an event arrived when joni mitchell herself appeared at the newport folk festival this weekend for her first full set in over 20 years. that is right. the

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for joining us. >>> after nearly a year of, a year and a half of on and off negotiations, democratic senator joe manchin says he has reached a deal with party leaders on a sweeping reconciliation package. in a statement yesterday, that surprised even most democrats on the hill, the west virginia lawmakers announced an agreement on what is being called the inflation reduction act of 2022. writing in part this, this bill will cut the inflation taxes americans are paying, lower the cost of health insurance and prescription drugs, and ensure our country invests in the energy security and climate change solutions we need to remain a global super power through this manner. it is time to put away the partisan swords and advance legislation that is in the best interest of this future and the american people we all represent, not just one party. the package includes more than $400 billion in revenue from tax reforms including a new corporate minimum tax of 15%. it also would bring close

i'm jonathan lemire.for being with us. >>> we'll begin with the latest in the justice department's investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election. four people familiar with the matter tell "the washington post" that federal prosecutors have now turned their attention to donald trump. two sources tell the paper that in recent days two top aides to vice president mike pence were asked before a grand jury about their conversations with trump, his lawyers and others in his inner circle who took part in the scheme to replace certified biden electors with a slate of the former president's allies. according to the post, prosecutors have asked hours of detailed questions about meetings trump led in december, 2020, and january, 2021. his pressure campaign on pence to overturn the election and what instructions trump gave his lawyers and advisers about fake electors and sending electors back to the states. two sources also tell the paper that the justice department has had in its possession since april th

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i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. we start with the latest on the january 6th investigation. nbc news has confirmed that two of the witnesses expected to testify before the house select committee for thursday's hearing in prime time. former national security counsel and former white house press secretary sara matthews for the final public hearing. pottinger's resignation was announced one day after the capitol attack has already spoken to the committee through video recorded testimony. among the things discussed there, according to "the new york times," was a visit he made to the oval office while the insurrection was under way. although donald trump was in the private white house dining room at the time he reportedly spoke to former chief of staff mark meadows about efforts to deploy the national guard to the capitol. matthews also resigned in the wake of the insurrection and has been vocal in her criticism of trump's actions since then. she has also voiced her support for her former colleague cassidy hutchinson who

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being here. former president donald trump's bid for the white house gain seems all but certain. in an interview, in my own mind, i have already made that decision. he says the only thing left to decide is whether to announce before or after this november's midterms. trump told the magazine that a benefit to announcing before november would be to potentially clear the republican field, saying quote, i think a lot of people would not even run if i did, because if you look at the polls, they don't even register. that of course, is actually not true. recent polls show that florida governor ron desantis is tied or ahead of trump in a handful of key states. however, trump claimed in the interview that he doesn't even consider desantis to be a real rival. the topic of the many state and federal investigates into the former president came up. he denied that shielding himself from prosecution is among the reasons for running, that quote, i did nothing wrong. there are very few repub

this is jonathan lemire.d to get your update, what you think about how the state has handled this. in particular, governor abbott, who in the hours after the shooting praised the response of law enforcement, he then later said he was misled. he's come under criticism for not playing much of an active role. you could give us, enlighten us, has he been meeting with the families and offering help and comfort? >> listen, i don't want this to sound like a political assault on him, but at the end of the day, and i noticed he hadn't about there since day three, he hadn't been there since day five when the president came and he came for that day as well. he hasn't been back to uvalde. we've had a failed response on access to resource to families. they've been given two weeks of lost wages. we have a victims assistance program that could give them as much as $50,000 and the district attorney has not been able to do that. the mayor, the very conservative republican mayor and hi to write a letter to abbott to take those

with us white house chief of politico and host of "way too early" jonathan lemire.liani we should add as well actually testified and spoke to the georgia state legislature a number of times around this, just peddling the debunked false claims about voter fraud in the state of georgia. the d.a. in that state, the d.a. in fulton county, they've got a lot to work with here. >> lesson learned don't call georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger because you're going to get in trouble if you do. there's been so much focus, of course on the call that former president donald trump made to the georgia secretary of state asking him to find the specific number of votes needed to flip the results in that state to give him the victory as opposed to joe biden. but now this call which we didn't know existed in the past has come under intense scrutiny here that graham calling raffensperger suggesting that, hey, you should perhaps not count some of these ballot which is officials there in georgia interpreted it to mean casting out some of these votes that were legally cast which

>> not in fenway, jonathan lemire.fenway. >> this is not good timing, joe. >> this is quite a skid. red sox are bad. we said at the beginning, this is an incredibly important run the past couple weeks. well, we haven't been running. we've just sort of been sitting there, eating dunkin donuts and not playing baseball. >> a lot to cover. >> it's really bad. >> the sox had a terrific june, despite losing ground in the standings to the yankees, who seem like the greatest team ever put on god's green earth. we have slumped at the wrong time. lost two of three to the cubs, two of three to the rays. four games at home at fenway against the yankees. we come here next weekend for three games. here's a play by codera. pop-up, no problem. see, usually, first baseman catch that ball, joe? >> really? >> usually, when a pop-up is hit straight into the air to them, they tend to catch them. devers -- >> at least it's not an important game. if you drop a ball in the infield, do it a game where nobody is watching. >> do it against the f

jonathan lemire. staying overseas, china.call with xi jinping later this week and president biden has already voiced the opinion shared to him by the pentagon that he does not think it is wise for house speaker nancy pelosi to travel to taiwan later this year. what is your opinion? should the speaker do that? >> i think the president will reach out to xi, and i think both intelligence and military leadership of the administration will consult closely with both the president and the speaker. as we were just talking, we are actively and closely engaged in this ongoing war of russian aggression against ukraine. i have great respect for the speaker and her long record of leadership and foreign affairs, and i trust that she'll consult closely with the administration and make the right choice. at this moment it could be a significant distraction if we ended up in knowes clat or situation around taiwan and its status, but i have confidence that the speaker will do the right thing in this moment. >> but in your judgment, senator, bet

jonathan lemire, mike barnicle and katty kay is still with us.have been deleted. the lost messages are both from acting secretary chad wolf and acting deputy secretary ken cuccinelli. joining us now the reporter who broke the story. the pulitzer prize-winning reporter carol leonnig. let's talk about these text messages, who they come from and how they are with the secret service with the vanishing text messages around january 6th. >> first off, thank you for having me on to talk about the story and readers know what we're breaking because of you guys. we were sort of shocked at "the washington post" to learn that secret service texts were missing for a critical period in america's history, a calamitous, chaotic incident which is now under both multiple committee investigations and a criminal investigation by the department of justice, but on top of that in the course of our reporting we learned that the department of homeland security also had deleted all of the messages of the very top leaders of the department of homeland security. keep in mind

you know, jonathan lemire, i'll admit, i did not follow dr. oz's career closely. but all of these things, these magic little beans that he's had, and these magic extract, it really is -- you line it up one after another, what an unbelievable scam artist and a scam artist putting people's health at risk, doing anything to make money. >> taking advantage of vulnerable people. >> taking advantage of vulnerable people. and you know, this is a guy, in the ad he said i'm all peninsula. i voted twice pennsylvania. he voted in turkey in 2018. spg that causes concern. and people were saying this in the republican primary, caused concern for national security analysts. that you would vote and be active in another country's politics. but he didn't vote in the republican primary that year but he voted in turkey. i mean, just, there is so much material here. it is pretty breathtaking. >> the green coffee bean extract is just one of the miracle pills that he would tout on his show. but yet, then have to walk it back while under oath testifying before congress. and i think it is

a lot going on this hour. >>> jonathan lemire and michael steele are still with us. contributor mike barnicle, who joins the conversation this hour. >> yeah, mike, i wanted to talk to you about merrick garland yesterday. quite a statement. he had come under criticism from a lot of democrats, a lot of commentators, i certainly, yesterday, questioned whether he was awake at the wheel. and i thought he gave a very impassioned, understated but impassioned defense of what he does and what the professionals at the department of justice do, saying, you know, federal investigations take a long time. we can't rush this. our goal is to make sure that we do it and we do it right. no man is above the law. he's asked again. he says, i don't know how many times i have to say this. alex told me we have it cued up. let me play it, mike. >> it's strong. >> i think it's strong, yeah. >> there is a lot of speculation about what the justice department is doing, what it's not doing, what our theories are, what our theories aren't, and there will continue to be that speculation. that's be

jonathan lemire, very important to get that answer.s does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop. now we know the answer to the question. >> speaks to the quality of the journalism on "morning joe." we don't have one day's headlines. we stay on a story, diving deeper, asking the important follow-up questions and bring them to the viewers. i'll note, i'm surprised it is only two. that falls far short of the amount of beers you can put in the stanley cup. the whole team can get a bite of that. >> exactly. that's good information to know, too. hockey fans out there. >> thanks. >>> how many money are we going to save, mike, the red sox, not having to buy champagne for this fall, for getting into the playoffs or winning a playoff game or anything? you don't have to buy champagne for a fifth place finish, do you? >> you don't. once again, to jonathan's point, there is no other program on national television, other than "morning joe," that does the analytics, the metrics on how many drinks you can pour into a claret jug. >> all right,

jonathan lemire's excellent new book "the big lie" came out yesterday. i saw that news yesterday of donald trump back in washington for the first time since he left back in january of 2021 and also this breaking story from the "washington post" that the department of justice is focused now on donald trump. it all dovetails with your book and what we're seeing from the january 6th committee, which is to say this was a premeditated effort. this was not a spontaneous rally and the big lie was concocted for years. in september of 2020 you point out the president said at a press briefing we're going to have to see happens when asked if he was going to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. >> the seed of the big lie were planted way back in 2016 in some ways, but it obviously accelerates in 2020. reflect back to where things today at the end of february in 2020. then-president trump was heading to india for a trip that was long on pageantry and short on substance. he began that week thinking he was going to run for reelection. he'd just been acquitted from h

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"way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. for >>> good morning. and welcome to "way too early." on this friday, july 8th. i'm jonathan lemire. and we're going to be starting with breaking news out of japan. where the country's former prime minister, shinzo abe, is reportedly in critical condition, after being shot twice. officials say abe was campaigning for a candidate ahead of japan's upcoming house of counselors elections, when he was shot from behind. once to the back. and once in the neck. and with what appeared to be a homemade gun. both reports suggesting abe's condition is very grim at this moment. this happened in the city of

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us.mala harris was in highland park yesterday and addressed this week's mass shooting, calling for a federal ban on assault-style weapons. >> this should never have happened. we talk about it being senseless. it is senseless. we got to be smarter as a country in terms of less access to what. and in particular assault weapons. and we got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have to take it seriously. the whole nation should understand and have a level of empathy to understand that this can happen anywhere, in any peace-loving community. >> the vice president was already scheduled to be in chicago area yesterday and then was invited by the mayor of highland park to visit the scene. president biden will also be in the midwest today as he's heading to cleveland to discuss his economic agenda. he's set to give the final details for helping safeguard multiemployer pensions for millions who are retired or still on the job. roughly 2 million worker

i'm alex witt in for jonathan lemire. there are new legal and ethical questions being raised about whether former president trump may be trying to influence witness testimony related to the house select committee's january 6th investigation. so according to "the new york times," trump's save america pac and his allies have paid for or promised to finance the legal fees of more than a dozen in to testify. financial disclosures show that in may alone, trump's save america pac paid about $200,000 to different law firm, the times notes that a dozen witnesses have received free legal advice and had attorney's fees paid for by the american conservative union's first amendment fund which consults with mr. trump's team about who's fees to cover. that is according to the organization chairman. the house select committee is known to ask witnesses whether anyone has tried to influence their testimony, it is worth noting that -- the tragedy is that there are politicians in this country beginning with donald trump, and the same claims

house correspondent kristin welker, pete williams, to confirm the breaking news, phil rucker, and jonathan lemirest of "way too early" and author of "the big lie, election chaos, the state of american politics after 2020." well-timed, jonathan. kristin welker, the president went straight back to work and seemed happy to be back. he seemed energized. sort of a victory lap for paxlovid and getting the shots and boosters. >> reporter: it was a victory lap that we witnessed in the rose garden. there's no doubt about that. stage craft was at work as well. president biden emerging from the residence where he has been in isolation for the past five days. then walking out to the rose garden, making his remarks and then walking back into the oval office underscoring that he is getting back to work. officials who are gathered in the rose garden with him with the media all applauded as he walked back in. putting the focus on his message, he used this as a teachable moment. frankly, as a chance to tout his administration's response to covid-19. the fact that hospitalizations are down 90%, he said. he talked

i'm jonathan lemire. thank you for being here. back to the middle east in a minute. but now, to washington. and we begin with the latest on the january 6th investigation. and the revelation from the committee that former president donald trump tried to make contact with a witness. a source tells nbc news the person is a member of the white house support staff. as yet to be publicly identified. the committee vice chair liz cheney said trump called the witness sometime after the bombshell june 28th testimony of former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. the person declined the call and told their attorney. the lawyer alerted the committee which in turn alerted the justice department. sources tell cnn that the person was concerned because they are not someone who routinely communicated with the former president. when asked to respond, trump's spokesman pointed to a tweet criticizing congresswoman liz cheney. >>> the committee is not ruling out future hearings later this summer. the chairman pointed to that surprise june 28th hearing with cassidy hutchinson saying quote

>> jonathan lemire, very quickly, have the president or vice president of the united states weighed inooks like a growing scandal on the people who protect their lives and the people who protect their families every day? >> there have been no comments from president biden or vice president harris about this. those at the white house are concerned and they urge secret service to turn over whatever records do remain, but nicole, privately, it is an open secret here in washington that the secret service was politicized by donald trump and there's some definitely some members who worked for him and remain on staff and think very fondly of the former president. that hasn't risen to any sort of security concern. no one is implying that and agents do their job professionally and work hard day in and day out, but it is something that the white house staff is aware of and certainly they're horrified to learn that these messages appear to have been intentionally deleted in order to be withheld from one of the darkest days in history. >> ben rhodes and jonathan lemire, thank you very much for bei

jonathan lemire, your thoughts on bannon? >> i also find it amusing that part of bannon's defense is he's too prominent because he's the subject of a documentary that's about to air. the pesky documentary crews get in the way of a fair trial. bannon as a former aid to then president trump in the campaign, first year in office fell out of trump's good graces after talking to an author for a book that was not flattering of tpt's family. let's remember the president also pardoned him because bannon participated in a scheme to defraud trump supporters out of their money, saying it was going to be going toward building the wall in mexico. we know he was heavily involved in the scheme centered around january 6th. it seems like his day in court will come. >> the president calling him several times according to the phone logs on the night of january 5th. thank you all very much. >>> those painful prices, inflation shattering records. how is the fed going to react? this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. o react? this is "andrea m

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being here. it's a huge news day. to the january 6th committee hearing last night, where we learned also what happened at the white house the day after the insurrection. the committee says trump staff felt he needed to address the nation again and wrote a speech for him. this, based early chatter that the amendment was invoked which may have taken away the presidential powers but trump refused for hours to give any sort of remarks. the committee then showed a text exchange between sean hannity and the white house press secretary kayleigh mcnany, and after the former president was told about the possibility that he finally agreed to give the speech but the outtakes from january 7th shows that trump was hesitant to condemn the rioters despite the violence and he refused to give up his big lie about the election. >> i would like to begin by addressle heinous attack yesterday, and to those who broke the law, you will pay. you do not represent our movement. you do not represent our country. and if you broke the law -- i ca

>> so let's bring in the host of "way too early" and white house bureau chief at "politico," jonathan lemire. member of the "new york times" editorial board mara gay. historian michael bbeschloss. former officer with the cia, mark. and jonathan swan. perhaps a rapid fire, key takeaway. >> let's do that. michael beschloss, i know this hasn't happened before. i asked during the trump years, is there a historic parallel? i don't have to ask that. i don't play by the marcus of queensbury rules. i'm not going to ask it. >> hope not. >> i'm going to ask you to give me your thoughts as an american, as a historian. >> biggest takeaway. >> you know, my biggest takeaway is people are talking about dereliction of duty, and i almost don't like that. that implies that this was a spontaneous uprising at the capitol, and donald trump was sort of reacting to what was happening. i think hearing by hearing, everything we're finding out suggests that he was at the center of a blueprint for a coup. ginni thomas was calling back and forth to donald trump's chief of staff. he was calling members of congress. we c

and jonathan lemire, author of "the big lie." congratulations and thanks to you. >> and meantime, daniel snyder, owner of the washington commanders, agreeing to participate remotely in a sworn deposition to answer what he knew about his team's alleged toxic work environment. the committee cherish you'd a report alleging that snyder commissioned a shadow investigation into employees who smoke out against the team's toxic workplace in an effort to influence a league review of sexual harassment allegations. snyder has denied the accusations and called the allegations outright lies. that's going to do it for this hour. we expect to hear from president biden on the economy again in about 20 minutes or so and we will have that for you live. i'm back in the chair for "katy tur reports" after this quick break. his quick break. er of four-- always busy. i was starting to feel a little foggy. just didn't feel like things were as sharp as i knew they once were. i heard about prevagen and then i started taking it about two years now. started

i'm jonathan lemire.>> president biden says he is considering declaring a public health emergency to free up federal resources for abortion access. during a bike ride near his family beach house in delaware yesterday, the president also encouraged women to keep speaking out against the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v. wade. >> it's interesting, because you keep making the point, it is critically important, we can do a lot of things to accommodate the rights of women, in the meantime, fundamentally, the only thing that is going to change this is if we have a national law. but as president, i don't have the authority to say that we're going to, you know, state roe v. wade as the law of the land. the only way to do that is through the election of the united states congress, in the meantime states can make those judgments. so my ultimate goal is to reinstate roe v. wade as a national law. >> the president is also defending his decision to visit saudi arabia later this week, saying his goal is to re

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for joining us. the next hearing into the january 6 attack is this afternoon at 1:00. with a focus on the violent mob. the committee says it will examine how former president trump summoned his supporters to the capitol to threaten the certification of the election when he tweeted, big protest in dc on january 6th. be there, will be wild. the committee says that tweet was the quote siren call for extremist groups such as the proud boys and the oathkeepers whose top members have been charged by the justice department with seditious conspiracy for their roles in the riot. an aide on the committee says it will also present evidence of ties between these groups and trump associates like roger stone and michael flynn. as far as witnesses, a source close to the investigation says we will hear from former oathkeeper spokesman jason van tatenhove, who has been critical of group since he walked away from it back in 2017. a source also tells nbc news that an ohio man, w.h.o. pleaded guil

i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. we begin with the latest fallout from the massacre that killed 19 children and two teachers in uvalde, texas. a damning investigative report released over the weekend said that nearly 400 law enforcement officials responded to the mass shooting but that quote egregiously poor decision making let the shooting continue for more than an hour. that report written by an investigative committee from the texas house of representatives is the first to criticize state and federal law enforcement for their role in the response. it makes the fullest account of what happened during the very worst school shootings in u.s. history. uvalde mayor don mclaughlin said the acting police chief during the shooting was placed on administrative leave and an investigation will be launched into the police response. but it's worth noting the report is still preliminary, and new body cam foot average the response was released just hours later. >>> turning now to capitol hill, the house

we have jonathan lemire with us still.on't know if the sandwich boards were taken away. >> mara gay, member of the "new york times" editorial board is here, as well as professor of history at tulane history, walter isaacson. >> walter is a big thinker, i want to ask the big question of the day. walter, we've been hearing that, you know -- well, i've actually been hearing it since seventh grade, that the united states is in decline. western democracy is in decline. we're going the way of the romans. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. japan is going to take us over. the soviets are going to take us over. i'm so bored with the usa. i'm bored, myself, with the collapse of western democracy narrative i've been hearing my entire life. so we heard that authoritarians were on the rise. we heard that right-wing populists were going to destroy western democracy. we have trump on the run. le pen got crushed. in italy, right-wing populists who were supposed to seize power crushed politically. here, you have boris johnson, the guy that lied

carlos curbelo, democratic strategist adrienne elrod, and white house bureau chief for politico, jonathan lemire. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >>> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. we're going to get to all the politics, my interviews with joe manchin and jon stewart, all of that in a moment. but we need to begin with this historic flooding in eastern kentucky, the worst flooding there in decades, it has left dozens dead. four children from one family are dead. officials expect the number to rise in the days ahead. as of yesterday, some 1300 people had been rescued by air or boat. 14 counties have been declared disaster areas and tens of thousands of homes are either without power, running water or both. sadly more rain is in the forecast. now climate experts say global warming is -- has not increased the number of floods, but what it has increased is their severity due to more powerful rainstorms. this is extreme weather in action. i'm joined now by kentucky's governor andy

we have the host of "way too early," jonathan lemire.ociate editor of the "washington post," eugene robinson. good to have you both on board this morning. joe, we're going to be looking at, obviously, what is going on abroad with president biden and his meeting with abbas, but let's begin with the secret service, accused of deleting text messages that could be critical to investigating the eve events of the insurrection. how could they be deleted? the dhs inspector general writes, after his office requested full electronic records for an evaluation of the capitol attack, the secret service deleted a significant number of text messages from january 5th and 6th of 2021. this was on tapbtained by nbc a intersected by the "intercept." they denied there was malicious attempt. >> really? oh, really? they also denied donald trump didn't lunge at secret service agents and choking them. it is interesting. you have the facts, the reality, and then you have the secret service denying that reality. this is the second time in a week it happened. you

jackie alemany, jonathan lemire, thank you very much for starting us off with your reporting.so grateful. eddie sticks around. when we come back, disinformation has become a third rail of our politics. how the federal government has tried to put a stop to its spread, but a republican party committed to it is continuing to feed the beast and making that task impossible and dangerous. plus, illinois prosecutors say they will file dozens more charges against the suspected highland park mass shooter. he's already facing seven counts of first-degree murder. the state attorney calling out our political system for allowing the federal assault weapons ban to expire. we'll have a live report on all of that and later in the program in her first interview since indictments were handed down, or subpoenas were handed down to a whole host of trump associates fultzon county d.a. fannie willis tells nbc news additional subpoenas are still coming and she doesn't rule out subpoenaing the ex-president himself. all of that and more when "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. stay

yamiche: joining me to discuss this and more, jonathan lemire, white house bureau chief for politico suspect host of msnbc's wayoo early. he is also the author of the new book out this week "the big lie." election chaos, political opportunism, and the state of american politics after 2020. thank you, jonathan, for staying up with us and we also have ayesha rascoe, host of n.p.r.'s "weekend edition" and joining me at the table, john bresnahan, a political newsletter punch bowl that we're watching and reading and amara omeokwe, economics report for "the wall street journal." thank you all for being here. when i saw this week happening, i was like where are you? and could she come on the show? because so much going on, right? you told our producers that the guiding -- driving theme of this week was whether or not we were in a recession. president biden has been saying we're not in a recession. but of course the g.o.p. has been saying we're in a biden recession. so ultimately who decides of we're in a recession and practically what does that mean? amara: the reason why we have mixed mess