of your favorite episodes this season coming up in this show canadian psychologist professor jordan peterson elevated by liberal war supporting media like the new york times and guardian comes to going underground and the first muslim woman does it in parliament british peer to denote a british media political class complicit in deadly islamophobia all this of all coming of a days going underground the first the rise of identity politics as well as being accused of masking the horrors of neo liberal stereotype of disguising class conflict as the driving force of the march of history but on next guest sees not only identity is the enemy to fulfilling lives but marxism and socialism joining me now from toronto canada is clinical psychologist on the international bestselling author of twelve rules for life an antidote to chaos professor jordan peterson jordan welcome to going underground let's just begin with what do you think it says about free speech in britain that cambridge university made an announcement this week saying they weren't going to invite you to speak i think it says more about

the international bestselling author of twelve rules for life an antidote to chaos professor jordan peterson jordan welcome to going underground let's just begin with what do you think it says about free speech in britain that cambridge university made an announcement this week saying they weren't going to invite you to speak i think it says more about the nature of the universities in general than about free speech in general i mean i don't feel the. my disinvited taishan has compromised my free speech ability because i have so many platforms on which i can discuss my ideas but i think that it was handled in the none believably unprofessional shoddy and cowardly way i mean i was never even notified formally that this invitation occurred i found out about it through the grapevine and i have no will still have no real explanation for why it happened. only able to surmise the reasons i think that arc i was in cambridge in november and i did a very popular talk there and there was lots of student interest and interest out the faculty of divinity as well and i was really looking forward to worki

the international bestselling author of twelve rules for life an antidote to chaos professor jordan peterson jordan welcome to going underground let's just begin with what you think it says about free speech in britain that cambridge university made an announcement this week saying they weren't going to invite you to speak i think it says more both.

welcome back i'm still here with professor jordan peterson do you think that your work is particularly attractive to those whose pride is in a sense being injured or being hurt by widespread recognition that their positions come from privilege and not from competence no i don't think that at all i think that my work has is attractive to people who have been hurt. in all sorts of ways over the last decades by an overemphasis discussion of. impulse of happiness extensive rights materialist shallowness nihilism and india logical rigidity i think that my work is attractive to people who haven't found any profound basis on which to ground their existence and i think that in the changing changing world perhaps where the kind of identity diversity is being the easy thing to blame for their own. lack of economic woes and lack of economic yes well i mean that's part of the path all of the of the present is that there is always an easy factor to blame and it's not like there aren't factors to blame life is arbitrary in many ways and people are subject to forces that are beyond their their any ea

his critics have been very vocal in public, saying they disagree with me, they disagree with jordan petersonponses have outweighed that more private and quiet. i have received at love messages and emails and and people taking me aside i like dr. peterson and i appreciate you putting your neck on the line for this. they are afraid of this very loud minority who is dictating what we're allowed to say on campus. brian: told you graduate school was not necessary but decided to anyway. ainsley: one thing to invite him and then rescind that invitation but didn't have the respect to call him on the phone and explain their situation. instead they put it on twitter and that's how he found out. rob, thank you so much. >> thank you. brian: we have reached out to the university of cambridge and we have not heard back but it is another country. ainsley: border patrol says they are so overwhelmed they can't focus on the mission of border security. brian: taking care of people instead of watching the border. dan bongino is here. is he going to yell something without a tie. ♪ ♪ welcome to fowler, indiana. o

imagine jordan peterson, joe rogan, dave rubin.aid to challenge the media mob orthodoxy. greg is for charity, true. but by skipping the dinner, trump has stripped away the novelty that has changed the charity event. he made it great again. it's now about journalism. in order they are miserable. dana, do you know this event, it supposed to be for charity and that's good but it became events for people like avenatti, the flame of the moment, that would show up. >> dana: you know people who would invite avenatti. you know them very well. that's exactly what i'm talking about. i went six years in a row with the bush administration. i'm not a night owl. i did like to see the folks. i did like to see people. it was fun. it was always colder than you thought it was going to be. you dress up in your miserable. he's not coming to the dinner. let it go. also they do have a point. it's not like he's just skipping the dinner. he's going to go to a rally and say i came here instead of being with them and he's going to attack the media. >> greg:

you know, jordan peterson -- >> in toronto capitalism and marxism are dueling it out. [laughter] we'll finally have an answer. >> but i think what's interesting about that is, and i think it's curious how speech, you know, is such, i mean, obviously free speech is a major kind of ideological and legal sort of commitment in the united states. but nevertheless, it's interesting how speech has become or free speech and this kind of this idea of the debating forum has sort of taken off in such an iconic sense. and i think in a way this is another example of what i'm talking about of viewing knowledge in its realtime capacity, its capacity to interact in the here and the now which is not how most scientific research advances, very slowly through publication, peer review, revise, resubmit, all this kind of hell academics have to go through. but it's not something that is happening in a sort of, you know, a sort of spirit of realtime reactivity. and i think the rise of that debating forum as a phenomenon tells us something about how not only the universities imagine, but also