>> president bush talked to josh bolden, chief of staff in december of 2007, talked to him about having the best transition they could. two wars, very important to do that. congress also had asked -- acted in ways that demonstrated a transition was a different kind period. >> afterwards airs on booktv every saturday at 10:00 p.m. and sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. you can watch all previous afterwards programs on our web site booktv.org. >> now on booktv charlotte jacobs remembers the life and career of jonas salk, creator of the polio vaccine. she is joined in conversation by janet napolitano, president of the university of california and former secretary of homeland security. >> good evening and welcome to today's meeting of the commonwealth club of california, this is the place where you are in the know. you can find us online at commonwealthclub.org, find us on facebook and twitter and on the club's youtube channel as well. i am 8 share of the commonwealth board of governors and i am going to chair today's program. this program is part of the club's good list ceres underwritten by the