attorney general of pennsylvania, josh shapiro. mr. attorney general thanks for being with us. i want to talk in two roles and will ask you to wear two different hats, one as the attorney general, then as a senior democratic official in your state. first, as the attorney general the counting that's going on right now, can you give us an update? >> look, we said all along that we were going to secure and protect and count the vote. we accomplished the first two, the vote was secured and protected and now we're going through this laborious process of counting. folks ask me who does the counting? these are volunteers and clerks from our communities who are working around the clock right now to get all of this data inputted. i think as you saw from your previous segment about michigan, i'm certainly not an expert on michigan, but you correctly reported that numbers come in, vote totals go up and down and things change. i think you're going to expect to see more of that happen today in pennsylvania as the votes are

the great state of pennsylvania, josh shapiro. mr. attorney general, thank you so much for being here tonight. i appreciate you making the time. >> good to be with you, rachel. >> i say that this story about the justice department seeming to okay the use of armed federal officers in places where votes are being counted -- i say it has to loom large in pennsylvania simply because of the way the president has talked about the vote in pennsylvania and the count in pennsylvania as being something that he wants stopped and something that he sees as illegal or somehow wrong. how is this resonating with you? >> you know, rachel, you and i spoke monday night, and i said to you that we were preparing for months to ensure that we would protect, secure, and count every vote here in pennsylvania. that's exactly what we've done. and as it relates to this doj guidance, we're aware of it. it's yet another one of the issues that we planned for. and i want to assure you and all your viewers that nothing is going to stop the counting of

you just heard josh shapiro say the process is working. we just have to let it work. >> by the way, you can watch the process work. >> o'donnell: literally. >> exactly. there's this agitation about poll watchers, but you can look in, look on the screen now. those are people doing the actual counting, because for a long period of time, the states have set up systems to make sure that these ballots are counted accurately. and it's taking a long time because they're checking twice. they're being very careful about it. >> they're volunteers, john, your aunt, uncle, brother, sister-- these are regular people doing their civic duty. >> something to celebrate in america north carolina the something to be made to seem sinister. >> exactly. >> after the president came out this evening and said there was something sinister going on, the cavalry rushed in to back him up-- or the enablers, dmending on how you look at it. lindsey graham said philadelphia elections are crooked as a snake and dead people are voting there. he said he trusts arizona but he

i think that may be one of their problems. >> pennsylvania's attorney general josh shapiro. mr. is a tense time and an exciting one. thanks for helping us understand it, i really appreciate it. >> good to be with you, rachel, thank you. >> back to you, brian. >> indeed, this is a balance of walking and chewing gum. we have an ongoing drama in georgia as well. we want to go back to correspondent blayne alexander. behind her as we saw earlier, the people doing the thankless and exhaustive work of opening these ballots and flattening them out. blayne, how is it going in fulton county? >> reporter: brian, the numbers are going in the right direction. i got another update from officials in the county and they tell me they're down to 24,000 ballots that need to be counted. the people behind me are working at a pretty fast clip to get all of these absentee ballots scanned and processed. when i spoke with the elections board chair 30 minutes or so ago, he tells me they could be here until 3:00 a.m. in the morning. i asked him realistically, do they plan to get it all done tonight, and h

joining us now is the attorney general in pennsylvania, josh shapiro. mr.ank you so much for being here. it's a really honor to have a slice of your time tonight. >> it's great to be with you, thank you. rachel. >> what is the state of the fight right now in pennsylvania? for electoral college reasons, a lot of people think that pennsylvania may be a tipping point in terms of the overall results in the race, and the voting wars there this year seem quite real and quite well joined. what's the state of play? >> well, here's the state of play from a legal perspective. donald trump and his enablers have been here in the state for months trying to attack our voting laws, trying to make it harder for people to vote, trying to eliminate drop boxes in communities and allow voter intimidation at the polls by busing people in from out of county to poll watch in certain polls, primarily focused on trying to undermine the vote in black and brown communities. rachel, they have brought six different lawsuits against us here in pennsylvania. they're 0-6, and we're 6-0 in

attorney general josh shapiro. the best to you and your family for thanksgiving.nkful for making your case here on our show. >> thank you, chris. the best to you and yours. >> thank you. >>> you know why i'm talking turkey, because it's thanksgiving. and perspective on where we are right now, okay? a lot of people, millions and millions, have made their way to different destinations. yes, we have been warned by the cdc not to travel. and, yes, i understand why it's really hard/frustrating for people to follow it and many are not going to. we have seen long lines of people getting tested before the holiday. yes, testing still sucks in too many places and takes too long. but we know it's a risk. so how do you balance these two things? i have somebody who will personally take you through their own experience of doing everything they could to do it right. next. we're all finding ways to keep moving. but how do we make sure the direction we're headed is forward? at fidelity, you'll get the planning and advice to prepare you for the future, without sacrificing the thing

josh shapiro, attorney general of pennsylvania. we'll be talking a lot over the course of the next new days. >>> as i mentioned, all roads td victory, at least most roads to victory for both presidential candidates lead through pennsylvania.nd the president held four rallies in this state yesterday. joe biden's going to have two here today. both ofe which will start this afternoon. i want to bring in mike manaly who covers joe biden. biden has two days left to bring things home. what's the closing argument look like? >> reporter: well, i've beenhe talking to ate lot of democrats inside and outside the campaign. what you're hearing about biden's campaign at this point is some confidence, but also a lot of caution. as one former obama white house official said toor me, i'll nev be confident about another election after what happened in 2016. but youpp look at the polls, yo see him on a good path. there's obviously what they say and what they're doing. and ify' you look at the candidates' campaign schedules herehe in the final 48 hour

what's going on, who are lying about what's happening here in pennsylvania. >> whitaker: democrat josh shapiro is pennsylvania's attorney general. he won reelection this past week. he's defending the state against republican lawsuits he calls frivolous. >> shapiro: they were asking for two things, bill. number one to stop the count, and number two to allow their watchers to get closer to where the envelopes were being opened and scanned. on the first issue, being able to stop the count, they failed. and on the second thing, an agreement was reached to move these poll watchers from roughly ten feet away to roughly six feet away. no material change whatsoever. >> whitaker: the president and his campaign have said there are many irregularities here in pennsylvania. >> shapiro: let me break this down for you. each campaign had observers in the room while the ballots were being counted. in addition to that, even if you're not a certified watcher, you can turn on the live stream and watch it on tv and keep an eye on the activity if you'd like. >> whitaker: you heard the president's speech on thursda

we just need to focus on counting these ballots. >> pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro, talking about counting the ballots process happening as we speak in pennsylvania, attorney general shapiro, thank you for being back on the show. >>> we are waiting on an update from georgia, another very important state, still considered by nbc news too close to call. the update is coming probably in the next couple of minutes, what you're looking at on the left side of your screen. it is the tightest margin in the remaining states yet to be called by nbc news, just some 18,000 votes separating president trump and joe biden. we'll have that in a minute. also in the south, north carolina also too close to call. the margin there currently about 77,000 votes. sources inside the trump campaign are saying they feel qualify kent about keeping that lead as the absentee ballots continue to come in. i bring in morgan radford from charlotte. you got the presidential race there, the senate race is too close to call. when do we expect to hear more from north carolina? sounds like we may have to wait a l

the attorney general of the commonwealth of pennsylvania, josh shapiro. greatly appreciate you making time for us this afternoon, and good luck. up next for us, ballots continuing to be counted. joe biden continues to gain ground in his path to 270. we will have the very latest from the states yet to be called. plus, how the democratic ticket has already made election day history, and the legal fight brewing in the trump campaign as the president prepares to throw down and challenge the election results in several states. a lot to get to. we are just getting underway on "deadline: white house." rs who have turned into their parents. i'm having a big lunch and then just a snack for dinner. so we're using a speakerphone in the store. is that a good idea? one of the ways i do that is to get them out of the home. you're looking for a grout brush, this is -- garth, did he ask for your help? -no, no. -no. we all see it. we all see it. he has blue hair. -okay. -blue. progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto

we want to bring into our conversation josh shapiro. the attorney general of pennsylvania who is representing the commonwealth on the other side of this legal dispute. mr. shapiro, can you explain to us what you understand the court's position to be on these ballots? and, again, this is in a national climate where the post office's delivery was slowed and very much called into question. >> right. >> these were ballots that were postmarked by election day, which seems like voters holding up their haneda of tend of the . do you understand what happened today to be the final word, or does this still feel like an open question to you, what happens to these ballots? >> so let me break down what actually happened, nicolle. you laid it out really well. our supreme court ruled here in pennsylvania that balloted postmarked by election day could be received up until friday, today, at 5:00 p.m. three separate times, this issue went up to the united states supreme court, today being the third. and each of those times, the supreme court of the unite

of vote yet to be counted in that state and want to bring in the attorney general of that state josh shapiro joining us, i believe from philadelphia. josh, thank you for joining us this morning. if you're not in philadelphia, i apologize for that. tell us where things are with the count, when you expect to see more results, how the process is going. >> yeah, look, george, i get it. folks want to know. my kids jumped on me this morning, daddy, daddy, who won and -- >> my kids jumped on me too. >> we've been saying for months, you know, we're going to secure, protect and count every vote so we secured the vote. we protected it and now it's being counted all across pennsylvania clerks from our communities are making sure that these ballots are counted. there's still a lot of vote left. this is way too early in the process. i anticipate throughout the day today you're going to see significant numbers of votes being put into the system, so the public will be able to see those numbers change and rise and go up and down. the bottom line is, we're going to make sure here in pennsylvania that we resp

. >>> joining me now, pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro. attorney general shapiro, can you give us an update, is there any improvement on the counting of the ballots today? >> the update is the law is being followed in pennsylvania. we've said all along in the months leading you want to election and the litigation we went through, that our goal was to make sure everything was secure, protected, when the votes counted. so we secured and protected the election. now those votes are being counted. andrea, they're being counted by public servants in counties all across pennsylvania. i think that count is going smoothly. obviously it's taking longer than folks would hope. but i would say in the grand scheme of things, it's better to wait a little bit of time in order to get an accurate, lawful count. that's what we're doing here in pennsylvania. >> peter alexander was just telling us the president had tweeted within the last 20 minutes that ballots for biden are popping up everywhere in pennsylvania and all these other states, what's going on, an

joining us now is the attorney general of the great state of pennsylvania, josh shapiro, mr. attorney general, thank you so much for being with us tonight. it's nice to see you. >> great to see you, rachel. thank you. >> i know you are not here to talk about the likely outcomes in the state and the partisan cast of potential votes that we are expecting, but i do want to ask you about the legal landscape, as we have talked about in recent days, i think by my count there's, like, five different avenues of litigation that the trump campaign is now pursuing in your state. can you catch us up to speed as to whether any of those legal fights is likely to affect either the pace of the count or when we're likely to see results? >> yeah, rachel, none of the litigation, none of the noise that's been coming, has stopped the count. the count has gone forward. it may be a little bit slower than america would like, but as joy said, just a moment ago, part of that is because they weren't afforded the opportunity to begin this work prior to election day. that's obviously something that lawma

. >>> in our next half hour, we'll be talking with pennsylvania's attorney general, josh shapiro. >>>dent trump is demanding a recount in wisconsin. democratic candidate joe biden leads by just over 20,000 votes there. and cbs news projects biden as the presumptive winner. adriana diaz is in milwaukee tracking the results and has that part of the story. good morning to you. >> the trump administration says they have requested a recount, but the rules in wisconsin laid out in these pages say recount requests can't be officially filed until after the counties here reverify their results. and that may not happen for about two weeks. in wisconsin, the law does allow a candidate to request a recount if the margin of victory is less than 1%. biden does have less than 1% more votes, but just as a reminder, so did president trump when he won this state in 2016. his campaign is calling for a recount now citing voting irregularities but so far hasn't provided evidence. the state's top election official said any claims that this election was anything less than a success is an insult to election

attorney general josh shapiro. >> election day is over, it's still too close to call.p ) shit, how stressed ant this election should by? >> you shouldn't be stressed at all. you voted, you did your part, now let us count the votes and deal with what may come. my team and i have been preparing for this election for more than four months. we knew we would be facing litigation before the election. >> do you get a notification on your phone every time someone sues pennsylvania, like how i get a text messages? >> i get notifications, texts, staff calling. here's the thing about these lawsuits, right, donald trump puts out some crazy tweets, and he says some outrageous things, but in a court of law, we don't deal in tweets and craze in statements, we deal in facts and evidence. >> you're composed, calm, you've got the answers, probably how you became attorney general, but when do you think the legal dust will finally settle for the 2020 election? >> i think you will have a certified count here as required by law been the next ten days or so, and we'll move forward with the p

by pennsylvania's attorney general josh shapiro who tweeted last week that if all the votes are addedin pennsylvania trump is going to lose, what did he mean by that, the corrupt dems not only have the outcome of the election predetermined it appears, they also had sage advice from the twice failed presidential candidate hillary clinton. who urged biden not to conceive the race under any circumstances whatsoever. in pennsylvania dems secretary of state today said there are millions of ballots left to be counted in that state, thousands of those ballots are from the city of philadelphia where finer tallies are not expected until thursday at the. earliest. for the latest return to fox n news correspondent aishah hasnie in philadelphia. what can you tell us. >> good evening to you, frustration is probably the word of the day possibly the word of the week in the trump campaign, eric trump, rudy giuliani, pam bondi wrapped up a press aconference at the airport shot while ago in which they express their frustration and what's happening in philadelphia and in pennsylvania and made allegation

pennsylvania's radical dem, radical dem attorney general josh shapiro said he is appealing to the astronautreme court. -- state supreme court. shapiro is a radical by any definition, and he is the same official who claimed before the election that president trump would lose if all the votes, as he he put it, were added up. our first guest tonight is the9 attorney leading the charge to throw out pennsylvania's mail-in ballots representing congressman mike kelly and congressional candidate e sean parnell. he joins us from pittsburgh. gregory, good to have you with us and congratulations on this win, hearing scheduled for friday. what is your expectation now that the case will be considered? >> well, thanks for having me on, lou are, good to be here. our expectation is that the hearing will proceed, but the other side has filed an appeal to the pa supreme court begging them to take over the case, so we'll have to see. developments keep coming. lou: what does that mean in. >> well, the supreme court may step in and take over the case. we'll have to wait and see whether that'll happen -- lou: is

before any vote has been counted, however, pennsylvania's radical dem attorney general josh shapiro hasdy declared joe biden is the winner. shapiro tweeted this in part: if all the votes are addedded up in pennsylvania, trump is going to lose. now, what does he mean if all the votes are counted? what does that mean? surely not. and just hours ago in texas a george w. bush appointed judge ruled he will not invalidate 127,000 votes cast at a drive-through lane in harris county. the state's most populace county. it covers much of houston. it's a ruling that favors, of course, the radical dems. joining us now by phone is congressman jim jordan, a great supporter of the president. he's campaigned for the president all across ohio. congressman jordan, the ranking member of the house judiciary committee, the house oversight committee. congressman, great to have you with us. you're campaigning for the president, you're campaigning for yourself -- [laughter] what does ohio look like for both of you? >> no, it looks great. you can see the enthusiasm across, up and down 75, the western part of our

lou: pelosi's extraordinary confidence parroted by pennsylvania's attorney general josh shapiro who tweeted last week that quote, if all the votes are added up in pennsylvania trump is going to lose. what did he mean by that? the corrupt dems not only have the outcome of the election predetermined it appears, they also had sage advice from twice failed presidential candidate, hillary clinton. who urged, who urged biden not to concede the race under any circumstances whatsoever. prescient advice, don't you think? and pennsylvania's dem secretary of state today said there are millions of ballots left to be counted in b that state. thousands of those ballots are from the city of philadelphia, where final tallies are not expected until thursday at the earliest. for the latest we turn now to fox news correspondent aishah hasnie in philadelphia. what can you tell us. reporter: lou, good evening to you. frustration is probably the word of the day, the word of the week, the trump campaign, eric trump, rudy giuliani, pam bondi, wrapped up a press conference at airport, where theyni expressed frustra

the attorney general from pennsylvania, josh shapiro, preyed the pennsylvania supreme court ruling, says it's a victory for those republicans that voted for the freedom elections. georgia, another state that president trump has been criticizing heavily, he says he regrets today endorsing brian kemp, arguing kemp has not gotten involved on his behalf. arthel: thanks, david. >> reporter: thank you. >>> this election was rigged. this election was a total fraud and it continues to be as they hide. and the problem we have, we go to judges and people don't want to get involved. eric eric: that is president trump claiming massive voter fraud this morning, his words. they stuffed the ballot box, it was a, quote, fake election. all this despite the fact his campaign failed to prove any of his in court. many, including trump appointed officials, say the president's claims are false and un substantiated. he promises to reveal the alleged fraud in court, including a slew of affidavits. legal experts note affidavits are not necessarily fact and election authorities across the country vow to investiga

want to bring in the pennsylvania attorney general, josh shapiro. thanks for joining us again.id your kids were bugging you, when are we going to get a result? are they still bugs you? >> they're still bugging me, but we're getting closer. the ballots are being counted and nothing is stopping that. we just got late word from the supreme court of the united states where the trump campaign tried to go to again to stop the counting of some ballots. this is their third attempt. not only did they not intervene again, but justice alito ordered each of the pennsylvania's 67 counties to count all of the votes, including those that were mailed prior to the close of election day but not received until wednesday, thursday, or today, friday, after the election. so yet another significant legal decision that allows the counting to continue. >> i assume part of the reason you're taking this extra care is to provide a solid defense against any future legal challenges. >> look, you never know what legal challenges are going to come. i can tell you, we're prepared. they were six challenges to o

amy: pennsylvania's democratic attorney general josh shapiro has worn trump's reelection campaign representativeso stop filming dropping off their ballots. shapiro said in a statement -- "pennsylvania law permits poll watchers to carry out very discrete and specific duties -- videotaping voters at drop boxes is not one of them." for more, we're continuing with marc lamont hill, professor of media studies and urban education at temple university in philadelphia. his forthcoming book is "we still here: pandemic, policing, protest, and possibility." mark, is the president sanctioning voterntimidation? clearly thcourts are moving against him in pennsylvania. >> that is exactly right. trump has been weaving a kind of really interesting narrative about what is happening in pennsylvania and in philadelphia. he's admit romney got zero both in -- although he got 50%. claiming this is a left-wing conspiracy to take away his presidency. when he called for people to come and form this kind of army, calls for people to be his security force come he is calling in his white nationalist base. this is the proud b

attorney general welcome back josh shapiro, the democrat from pennsylvania: the supreme court has dismisseduit that was attempting to throw out the votes of 2.5 million pennsylvanians and halt certify caution. another big state president trump continues to focus on is georgia. obviously, we know that this coming saturday he's going to campaign for kelly loeffler and david perdue, that's going to determine the majority in the united states senate. but something interesting the president said in that interview with maria bart promow, he said about brian kemp, the governor he endorsed, he said he regrets endorsing him because he believes governor kemp has not stuck up for him in georgia. kristin? kristin: and now the president's heading to georgia next saturday. david spunt live from the north lawn, thanks. leland: kelly loeffler also said she thought the republican secretary of astronaut should resign in georgia. the transition, though, is continuing. president-elect joe biden is set to receive his first presidential daily brief tomorrow as he continues to finalize the next round of picks for

pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro, he praised that ruling by the pennsylvania justices.rgia, eric, is another big state we've heard a lot about, president trump going down to campaign on saturday for senators david perdue and kelly loeffler. but brian kemp, the republican governor in georgia, president trump not happy with him today saying that he get regrets endorsing him. eric? eric: yeah. and the secretary of state, the republican in georgia saying-going by the law. -- he was going by the law. david spunt, thank you. arthel: well, president-elect joe biden spending his holiday weekend in delaware as his transition team moves quickly to fill out his cabinet. meantime, we are learning the president-elect will be examined by an orthopedist today after an incident yesterday. let's go to jacqui heinrich live in wilmington, delaware, with more on all of this. so what's the latest on mr. biden's health? >> reporter: arthel, we've learned the president-elect sustained this injury yesterday, a twisted ankle, while-out playing with husband dog major. major is a rescuing dog, a

you have the pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro tweeting out if all the votes are added up invania trump is going to lose. so you can see at the ag level, you know, it is getting really politicized. your final word, sir? >> you know that position, that particular individual in that position is incredibly political and incredibly biased. so i would ask the american, you know, viewer don't pay him any attention. elizabeth: that is interesting. congressman green, great to see you. come back soon. >> liz, see ya. elizabeth: we continue to do a deep dive into government records. we're bringing back on former deputy independent counsel sol wise enzerg. we have new reports that the fbi is questioning, hunter biden's partner, tony bobulinski, about a alleged 10% cut for joe biden with the deal with the chinese biggest energy company conglomerate. that is why the chinese energy company was paying hunter biden millions of dollars, via off the balance sheet shell companies. that it was for the biden stakes here. here is the question, did joe biden get his cut? that is the debate coming u

pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro tweeting about what he calls the latest meritless lawsuite pennsylvania's election, which was overseen by bipartisan officials and was lawful, fair and secure. for months, the majority of these lawsuits have been dismissed and found to have no merit by courts at all levels, and this one is no different. so where do things stand in terms of the actual math and the map? i'm not even going to pretend to try and bring you up to speed on that because look who i have. the one, the only steve kornacki, my good friend, who i tried to help out a few times in the last week, but he was -- he was hard to get away from that board. nbc news national political correspondent steve kornacki. my brother, it is good to see you. thank you for everything that you've done for america. let's start with georgia behind you. it remains one of a handful of races that are too close to call even though president-elect biden appears to be steadily expanding his lead to more than 12,000 votes now. tell me where that race standing and what's taking so long. >> yeah. i mean

goes to another viral star of election coverage, the teenage son of pennsylvania attorney general josh shapirouring one of dad's interviews this week. keep an eye on the doorway. >> run to the supreme court as they've indicated, clearly that's failed. they refused to intervene, ultimately now those ballots are going to be counted. >> shapiro was live on msnbc talking about pennsylvania's election process when jonah wandered in, head buried in his phone, before looking up in shock and realizing, yes, he's on national television. he then slowly backed out of the frame as if we hadn't noticed him. when buzzfeed politics editor matt berman tweeted the clip with the caption "this bored child gets it," attorney general shapiro responded, "i'm taking away his phone for 24 hours." in fairness, you never assume your dad is on national tv out in the living room. i'm with you, jonah. >>> our next high to an ohio dad named robert carter who now is the proud father of five after adopting a group of siblings last week on national adoption day. >> i'm glad for those of you -- >> thank you. [ applause ] >> ba

so let's bring in the state attorney general, josh shapiro. what are your big concerns for today, and what are you doing to prepare? >> we've been preparing for months. and i'm not concerned at all. we've got a plan. we're prepared to make sure that every legal, eligible vote is cast and counted. and we're trying to just, frankly, ignore the noise and focus on protecting our democracy and making sure that all pennsylvanians who want to participate in this process can. and that the will of the people is ultimately reflected and respected at the end of the night. >> you have already been to course against the president's team multiple times in the past and won. does it give you confidence you can handle whatever they might throw at you in the next few days? >> oh, sure. look. the president has spent months leading up to this election. he and his enablers suing us here in pennsylvania to make it harder for people to vote. to eliminate drop boxes. to have less time for people to vote. have less time for the counting to occur. to disqualify certain

i have a feeling it's going to be similar to what attorney general josh shapiro said on the "today show" this morning. listen to what he said. >> the most important thing is that we get it right. it's not about the speed. it's about the accuracy. and so we have to have patience. >> we have heard this from election officials leading up to the election. they're going to prioritize accuracy over speed. and we will be watching how these mail-in ballots come in over the next few days. there's still a lot of uncertainty about which way this could go for either trump or biden. hallie? >> keeping an eye on things in the warehouse. a fascinating scene behind you as allegheny county picks up the counting of the ballots. i want to go on where the campaigns are right now. as we start the show, we're hearing from advisers on both sides of the aisle here, team biden and team trump. ali, you have brand new reporting coming out previewing this on how the campaign is feeling about five key states and that path to victory. walk us through it. >> exactly. and we're waiting to hear from top campaign aides

i want to go to pennsylvania's democratic attorney general, josh shapiro. attorney general, we just showed live pictures of that certification that would deal the final and formal blow to trump's efforts there. i believe philadelphia has just confirmed they have finished so it's certified, done, now in the rear-veer mirror. is there anything the president can do now to stop it? >> i don't believe so. the certification process has been playing out all across pennsylvania successfully and swiftly today. and we have seen over the course of the last several weeks just multiple lawsuits filed by donald trump before the election and then since the election. they have all lacked merit. they have lacked facts. they have been evidence-free, and they have lost nearly every step of the way. erin, within this span of about 45 minutes today, they lost an appeal in the third circuit and lost a case up in the pennsylvania supreme court. we have rounded the turn. the election is long over. and now the transition begins. >> so when the president says he's recommending the t

to help create perspective, josh shapiro, pennsylvania's attorney general joins us now.e status of the legitimacy of claims by the trump campaign against your state? >> chris, i have been telling you for months that they were going to file a bunch of lawsuits and lose a bunch of lawsuits. that is exactly what happened here in pennsylvania. right now, you know, they have a last ditch effort in federal court here in pennsylvania on a relatively narrow issue. i will tell you that there is no merit for their claims. there is nothing on fraud. there is nothing on legal votes. they don't even have standing to bring the claims, sort of law school 101. you would think rudy giuliani would know that. yet here they are, trying to manufacture fact to fit a narrative that pleases the president. frankly it is not going to work as i have been telling you for months. it cannot work and it will not work to overturn the will of the people in pennsylvania. >> do you see any proof that is being echoed in federal court that might lead the case to the supreme court? >> no. you use the word pr

that's from josh shapiro.g of the state to come out and say that before a single vote has been counted, pennsylvania's democrat attorney general declaring that biden has already won, steve forbes, i don't know, red flags went up on that one. i also said, what is the ag of pennsylvania know that we don't know? steve: that's absolutely right. in court challenge he should recuse himself. this gets to pennsylvania. how much in the ballot box is going to take place. we have anecdotal evidence of what's happening in pittsburgh, philadelphia, about what's happening in terms of ballots being cast that aren't by alive people. you've had precincts where there are more votes than people registered, everyone wants to vote including the dead. so there's sort of -- they are saying in pennsylvania that if trump doesn't win the actual vote by a couple of points he will lose it through this kind of fraud at the ballot box and that's where the real attention should be. how do you prevent it? i think the gop is on it, that's the

>> the biggest problem with the --nting the million votes the mail in votes is that josh shapiro is theney general and is on the ballot. and if his staff is involved in anything to do with the counting of those votes, i think that that is wrong. he should have recused himself from everything involving the count. so that bothers me. as far as counting the ballots, pennsylvania law allows for it and it is good that we continue that. peter: joe in pittsburgh, thanks for your time this evening. rudy giuliani and eric trump were in philadelphia earlier today, holding a press conference talking about the ballot counting procedure. : it is sad that we are here in a city that is the birth place of our democracy. and this is among one of the most antidemocratic things i have seen or encountered. and it is not just in philadelphia. this is going on all over the country. we have filed a lawsuit. the lawsuit actually required that when these mail-in ballots, that you know are highly suspicious, this form of balloting has always been considered the most prone to fraud according to "the new york time

in the state, josh shapiro, a democrat, said: we just notched another win for democracy.the votes of 2.5 million pennsylvanians and halt certification. which is actually not entirely accurate, but they were trying to halt that certification. we'll see if that goes ahead and moves forward even as the appeals process plays out. jenna ellis, by the way, trump campaign attorney said this on twitter, she said: this is a fight for the very integrity of our entire system, article ii. and a quick reminder, we want to hear what the president has to say about all this, we invite everyone to join us at 10 p.m., maria bartiromo, my good friend, will have an exclusive interview with the commander in chief right here on fox news channel. guys, back to you. pete: kevin corke, thank you very much. it's an interesting moment where the people have been saying we need to see the evidence, and we get further away from election day so the tension gets higher, and if you talk to the trump legal team, they will until you that process is actually going better than it is publicly known, and they'