in his journal, he called it the fall river. it is one of the very few rivers in the united states that flows from the south to the north. but it does that. the other thing this is the same , river that flows through bend and makes mirror pond. end. we are known for in b the cartographer, charles preuss, also talks about the number of falls along the area that they are in. we are at the upper end of dillon falls. they camped right at the upper end of this. just about 300 yards around, there is a nice, big meadow that is now called ryan ranch. it is in this clearing that it fremont expedition camped the night of december 5. at some point, john fremont discovered a hole in the rock. in this meadow, where the water was draining. at the time, he said it was a small stream. it was draining down into the lava rocks below. he made a notation of that in his journal. he called it -- i think it was the wrong spelling. a french word. he made a comment, not long ago, that the hole was still here. this is also where john fremont made a comme

this is the da chutes river and in his journal he calls the fall river. it is one of the few rivers that flows from the south to the north but it does that. this is the same river that flows through bend and makes mirror pond and what we're known for in bend. charles also talks about the number of falls that they were in. we're in the upper end of dylan falls and they can't go to the end of this. it is 200-300 yards around that is called ryan ranch. it was in this clearing that fremont's expedition camped the night of december 5. at some point john fremont discovered a hole in the rocks and the water was gaining and he said at the time it was almost a small stream. it was draining into the lava rocks. he made a notation of that but i think it is the wrong spelling because the french spelling has no t in it. he made a comment that long ago and that hole is still here. this is also where john fremont made a comment in his journal that they located, they happened to see a set of lodge poles poles for tepee. we found here a handsome set leaning against the tr

committing journalism is not a crime.the notion that it is is a dangerous trend we should deprive of oxygen. it demands the government withdraw the subpoena of reporter jim risen immediately. thank you. [applause] >> our next speaker, courtney raj, is a journalist and free expression advocate who writes and speaks often on the intersection of media, technology and human rights, with a particular emphasis on the middle east. she is currently advocacy director at the committee to to protect journalists, where she's leading the right to report campaign aimed at ending surveillance and harassment of journalists. prior to joining cpj, she was at unesco where she coordinated the freedom of expression section strategy in the arab region. she also previously managed the global freedom of expression campaign at freedom house and has worked for "al arabiya," "the daily star" in lebanon, and "the new york times." [applause] >> thank you. the committee to protect journalists is seriously concerned about the actions taken by the depar

"washington journal" continues.: i guess is cathy schneider, the author of "police power and race riots." she is also a professor at american university, and she is here to talk about the situation in ferguson, missouri after 18-year-old michael brown was shot and killed earlier this week. cathy, thank you so much for joining us this morning. guest: thank you very much. host: i want to start by reading headlines because there is a developing situation that happened early this morning and ferguson. the st. louis post-dispatch has this headline -- storm after column -- quiet night air routes as police, protesters square off. the story says that for most of friday night,

one is not watchdog investigative journalism.ansparency, telling people what is going on, and empowering them to make better decisions is the core of the business. i was thinking about this this morning. my great-grandfather has in his will written gems of information that he left for the rest of us. i wanted to read a little passage i wrote down this morning. newspapers which i have taken pride in developing should make themselves champions of the rights of the people. such power should not be used as an encroachment on the rights of individuals. i asked my children and trustees to recognize these obligations." whether we make money at it or not, one thing we don't forget is the legacy that was left to us, the fourth estate accuracy, and championing the best interest of our community where we live. hopefully we will continue doing that. in some ways the future of news has never been brighter. toyou think about the access information, people are not dependent upon the one newspaper at their local newsstand. whether it be in a rev

fan of handoutg journalism.he most productive work we do is when we ask hard questions and try to get under the surface to find out what's really going on. they hand out press releases and it's not our job just to take stenography and provide them to the public and go deeper. a there have always been whistle stop tours and a fireside chats to engage directly with the electorate. this is just a way to do it from the comfort of your chair. did invitenabj members of the administration to participate in this panel and as far as we can tell they chose not to. i think everyone in the audience t edward snowden is responsible for releasing a boatload of information on the nation's covert activities. there are those who say, not withstanding, what he did whether it was right or wrong but the notion that one person was responsible for releasing this information, a relatively young person, they make the argument that it should not happen. question to the panel. is he a criminal or a whistleblower? i'm going to choose to an

washington journal continues. open phones. we want to bring your perspective to bear this morning on some of the issues. there is a lot of nixon resignation material on the c-span website and there is a lot of material coming up on all of our networks and platforms this weekend. i want to start with radio. here in the washington area and you know it is at 90.1. if you have xm satellite radio, it is channel 20. you can listen to c-span radio online at c-span.org. itsan radio is marking anniversary of the resignation with some of the last phone calls. the nationally televised resignation speech, and his emotional farewell to his staff and cabinet for leaving the white house on august 9. c-span radio did an interview with his co-editor, luke nichter . that all begins tomorrow morning at 10:30 a.m. eastern time on c-span radio. weekends,span2 on the 48 hours of nonfiction books and authors. bob word, john dean together talking about john dean's new book the nixon defense. that is one hour of on woodward and john dean sitting down

the comics to of more readership of the journalism. it is something that our news content reaches a much larger audience than it would if we didn't also have under 200 million video views a month and massive amount of viewership on quizzes and lists. >> there has been a lot of new media startups that have been launching recently. why do you think there are so many media startups happening? >> media startups are more of a thing now than they have an in a long time. there have been a lot of tech startups. if you look at the history of media, new technology emerges that is a distribution technology. the technology starts to get dealt out and people start creating content companies that take advantage that did not exist before. a lot of people do not know the story at cnn. wtbs was ear -- owned by ted turner. we -- you could, ted turner realized i could beam my local station by satellite and then it seemed like he will was an exciting new thing. people thought why would anybody want to watch the local television station. in phoenix or new

committing journalism is not a crime.the notion that it is is a dangerous trend we should deprive of oxygen. it demands the government withdraw the subpoena against -- of reporter jim risen immediately. thank you. [applause] >> our next speaker, courtney raj, is a journalist and free expression advocate who writes and speaks often on the intersection of media, technology and human rights , with a particular emphasis on the middle east. she is currently advocacy director at the committee to to protect journalists where , she's leading the right to report campaign aimed at ending surveillance and harassment of journalists. prior to joining cpj, she was at unesco where she coordinated the freedom of expression section strategy in the arab region. she also previously managed the global freedom of expression campaign at freedom house and "al arabiya," lebanon,y star" in and "the new york times." [applause] >> thank you. the committee to protect turn -- to protect journalists is seriously concerned about the actions taken by th

one is not watchdog investigative journalism.transparency, telling people what is going on, and empowering them to make better decisions is the core of the business. i was thinking about this this morning. my great-grandfather has in his will written gems of information that he left for the rest of us. i wanted to read a little passage i wrote down this morning. "these newspapers which i have taken pride in developing should make themselves champions of the rights of the people. such power should not be used as an encroachment on the rights of individuals. i asked my children and trustees to recognize these obligations." whether we make money at it or not, one thing we don't forget is the legacy that was left to us, the fourth estate accuracy, and championing the best interest of our community where we live. hopefully we will continue doing that. in some ways the future of news has never been brighter. if you think about the access to information, people are not dependent upon the one newspaper at their local newsstand. whether i

fan of handoutg journalism.he most productive work we do is when we ask hard questions and try to get under the surface to find out what's really going on. they hand out press releases and it's not our job just to take stenography and provide them to the public and go deeper. a there have always been whistle stop tours and a fireside chats to engage directly with the electorate. this is just a way to do it from the comfort of your chair. did invitenabj members of the administration to participate in this panel and as far as we can tell they chose not to. i think everyone in the audience t edward snowden is responsible for releasing a boatload of information on the nation's covert activities. there are those who say, not withstanding, what he did whether it was right or wrong but the notion that one person was responsible for releasing this information, a relatively young person, they make the argument that it should not happen. question to the panel. is he a criminal or a whistleblower? i'm going to choose to an

individuals who loom very large in history and in journalism and revelations about the presidency. this defining moment american history was also a defining moment for american journalism and a defining moment, certainly, for the "washington post," and a defining moment in its own way for people like me. not that i want to make anyone feel old, but i was in college when nixon resigned. [ laughter ] and the "post" was breaking its watergate stories and it was that journalism that really helped inspire me to get into the field as it did with many others. i'm fortunate to be able to introduce your wonderful moderator, ruth marcus. ruth joined the "post" in 1984 and is now one of our most distinguished columnist ins. she is known for doing the hard reporting before offering her opinions, but she has strong opinions, too, and over the course of her career, she has covered every institution, it seems, in washington, from the supreme court to the white house to the congress to the justice department. and she's also deeply experienced on the campaign trail, has cover misdemeanor campaigns

journalism isn't for the faint of heart.'s a constant back and forth with any government, and that's fine. we also believe that a democratic government should believe that a free press is important and should at least try to facilitate that in a general way and that's the kind of place where we end up taking thinking we are not so sure that is true. >> i think it's part of a trend that began before obama was elected, but i certainly think it's a gotten more dramatic. the trend has gotten worse. social media has given the obama administration is a lot of elected officials the plausibility that they're going straight to the people, but they can manage the message. there's no reason to believe it is an honest presentation of information. i also think that the way the obama administration has handled access has given other governments, state and local governments, a roadmap for how they can "handle the media." we saw in new york with the bill de blasio administration, who also said he was going to run the most transparent admini

recently "the wall street journal," they have this graphic. below that, independent streak, history of the union. proclaimedtion scotland is a sovereign state. built, republican caller. what are your thoughts? caller: i am calling to say i sincerely hope the referendum and scotlandeed remains in the united kingdom. however, we're seeing this around the world, by the way, i'm a proud to senate of a scotsman who left right after the 1700s when scotland lost the last shot of staying independent. what we're concerned with worldwide is evolution. there are so many places in the world where the national borders are created historically but within it several independent communities. will warn that governments can keep defense finances centralized, but devolved powers to the component areas the better. host: let's listen to the arguments against independence. this from the debate last night. this is what darling had to say. [video clip] people want to change, but they also want security on jobs, children's futures. that is why my messages that no than

usually, israeli journalism is what good journalism should be: however the military sensors wield considerable power. when they step in, the journalism suffers. like allisitsi citizens, israeli journalists are banned by law from going to gaza. the only way they have made it in on this story is when they are embedded when israeli and i am mbeds get a narrow view. consumers have access to satellite or video distribution. most people don't bother. they use media produced at home which makes the work of the one palestinan journalist in gaza for an israeli newspaper worth looking at. the listening post's will young now on the domestic coverage of the gaza war in israel and how journalists in gaza try to get their story to the rest of the world. >> not several journalist has to travel far from home to cover the biggest news stories in the world. sometimes, the news comes to them. a palestinian whose home is gaza, her job is to report on life and death there to her readers on the other side of the border in israel. >> if has been a conflict job. i was seeing what's going on t.v., newspapers and radio

we intend to invest heavily in watchdog journalism.we hope over time as print the clients we are able to make the switch to digital effectively. our digital subscribers are up 25%, which is a huge growth rate. we need to see that continue. we need to see people do what they are doing at the "new york times." you can build a business off that for the future. >> margaret, will there be a the "new yorkof times?" >> i think there will be. i don't think there will always be. but i think that it will be around in 10 years. i mean, you know, there are those, and i am not sure how accurate this is, but there are certainly those that think at some point some daily papers will be eliminated and the sunday will live on, the lucrative one with the advertising and it and the biggest editorial effort. there is no discussion of anything like that that i am aware of. but there is no question that is the trend. we have no way of knowing exactly how quickly that will happen. you don't have to go back far to realize, 10 years ago things were very differe

the journal was way ahead of the curve. i mean that. it really was prepared to start asking important questions long before some folks out there in the policy and academic worlds were ready to think about this seriously. i think it's a credit to the journal that has devoted so much time attention and space and larry has done such a good job with mark in making that happen. i appreciated and i think many people in this audience contributed to that effort recognize how important it was that the journal was so much ahead of the curve are in this matter. i've been asked to reflect on the piece i wrote. what i rewrite it in a different way? when i wrote the piece and mark was mentioning how do you deal with events that are changing as you are writing them? i said i had two predictions. things were grim grim and each of them wouldn't work out and things were okay in tunisia and would work out and things that were not looking so good in tunisia, oh my god like ron said when he is going to get the constitutional vision written. my reputation is

to join us i hope that he's going to be taken care of being treated fairly because we know that journalism and journalists are very much in danger reporting trying to do their job in ukraine. start out with you first them is a very general program on western media coverage of the crisis in ukraine in a nutshell how would you describe it. well i would describe it in an art show as bolshevist the main problem is not that the media is controlled by reach and powerful that has always been the case unfortunately but in the case of ukraine the western media is controlled by stupid than venturous so what their western media did in ukraine it was exactly what can a long the lines outlined by vladimir lenin. the moral rules are very simple everything that benefits the so called revolution is moral and democratic everything that doesn't benefit their revolution is undemocratic immoral and should be dismissed russian propaganda or russian interference or putin's imperialism so from the very first days of the so-called my down protest the western media engaged yvonne kind of percent behind these so-ca

hundred at least nine hundred thirty nine i'm sorry of which are children according the wall street journal and according to gaza's ministry of health over fifteen hundred palestinians have been injured but of course if you ask u.s. officials about the latest each massacre it's hamas is fault these children are dead as an n.b.c. reporter treated the u.s. state department says that ultimately hamas is responsible for the four boys dead in gaza shelling because they didn't agree to the seize fire proposed by egypt you know it takes a certain kind of willful blindness to continue to blame hamas every time israel kills kids earlier i spoke to journalist harry fear who was only metres away from that shelling this morning and has been living in the occupied territory off and on for two years in fact right after the interview was conducted a bomb went off right next door to where harry was he in the film crew are on harmed now considering that the israeli government alerts palestinians shortly before bombing them either with leaflets or preemptive explosions many people don't realize why gazans ca

this is the ultimate needs no introduction introduction in american journalism. bob and i, he probably doesn't remember this, we first met in 1981 when he told me i was very foolish to be heading off to law school and should just come to work for "the washington post." he was probably right then, but it all worked out just fine in the end. bob has worked for "the post" since '71 and teamed up with carl, as everybody in the universe knows, to start reporting the watergate story which has been called the single greatest reporting effort of all time. if there's one word to apply to bob, it is indefatigable. most of us having reported the watergate story would have sat back and rested an our laurels. woodward apparently does not have laurels to rest on because in addition to the two incredible pieces of work that he and carl produced, "all the president's men" and "the final days," -- please buy them out front -- he's written 14 other books that pierce everything -- every institution in washington from the supreme court, which i personally know how hard it is to pier

and the islamic state with his life and the news media in hong kong where the journalism is looking morend more like the orders are coming from beijing. this is a heat map of activity on twitter for a new story that's gone global. this particular story has been trending in a big way in the u.s. but there is plenty of interest and output all around the world. how did ferguson, missouri, population 21,000 become a global dateline? the killing of a black teenager, michael brown on august 9th by a white policeman triggered protests and showdowns with a police force that seemed particularly well armed, remarkably well equipped. the sight of small town police looking like an army have peas wondering why do cops need armored military vehicles? there was the way the police conducted themselves, arresting peaceful protesters, politicians among them, imposing curfews, hand cuffing judgists and tear gassing news crews in a security response that resemble something out of a war zone. in the age of social media, datelines become hash tags. any stories that journalists struggle to file from ferguson j

to go back to that term, disintermediation -- journalism is in a. transformationof because you no longer need to go to the classifieds good you can get these things separately. you can go to crosswordpuzzles.com on the internet. that for whatever new online startups there are online, the models of finding them is still advertising. digital advertising, which brings in quite a bit less revenue than traditional print advertising, but it is advertising nonetheless. advertisers have been really empowered by the move to the digital sphere in what is called convergence, the fact that these formerly distinct areas of life are now online. you go online to watch her movies and read your books and to your crossword puzzles and talk on the telephone. advertisers can attract you through all these different realms of your daily practice. ,hey can collect data from you and are very empowered compared to the old days when they depended on the newspaperman so they could reach an audience. i think we have to imagine first and foremost alternatives to the advertising

that's our question this morning for final half-hour of the "washington journal." brad from maryland. good morning. >> caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. two other callers, once said that it was bush's fault. we rocketed the sudan, afghanistan and reduced sodom hussein's standing army by 30%. this is wha when i was still wog there i'm retired army. under clinton, and another caller said this is just a sunni-shia battle. isis kills anybody that doesn't think their way. and they are coming our way. i think that we need to gear up and lend a to syria, lend aid to the kurds, and do everything we can right now without putting boots on the ground. to abolish these guys. let me to you. they are here and they're coming -- they're going to set up cells the same way that al-qaeda did. thanks for taking my call. >> host: thanks for the goal. the new york times also writing about this. the islamic state in iraq in syria cannot be defeated unless the u.s. or its partners take on the sunni militants in syria. that's a state last week from chairman of joint of the j

"wall street journal" columnist dan henninger, brett stevens and matt kaminski. dan, to you first, too little too late from the president? >> well, you know, stuart, recall back in april the president gave a talk in which he defined his foreign policy to singles and doubles and it adds up. he's doing singles and doubles in northern iraq when he needs a grand slam home run. what they have done so far does not reflect the reality on the ground. the islamic state in iraq is a heavily armed group of the most extreme islamic jihadists we have convict fronted so far. they have threatened baghdad. they are threatening kurdistan, the city of erbil, yazidis stuck on the mountain, christians being fought out of iraq. why is no one fighting back? because ice 0 is is heavily armed, often with american equipment they have stolen both the iraqis and kurds will say, we will fight back if we get sustained u.s. air cover to help us. and so far the president has not committed himself to an operation that would allow our allies, if we can call them that, to fight back against isis.

the journal was way ahead of the curve. i mean that. it really was prepared to start asking important questions long before some folks out there in the policy and academic worlds were ready to think about this seriously. i think it's a credit to the journal that has devoted so much time attention and space and larry has done such a good job with mark in making that happen. i appreciated and i think many people in this audience contributed to that effort recognize how important it was that the journal was so much ahead of the curve are in this matter. i've been asked to reflect on the piece i wrote. what i rewrite it in a different way? when i wrote the piece and mark was mentioning how do you deal with events that are changing as you are writing them? i said i had two predictions. things were grim grim and each of them wouldn't work out and things were okay in tunisia and would work out and things that were not looking so good in tunisia, oh my god like ron said when he is going to get the constitutional vision written. my reputation is

fanny was writing the journal and she didn't mention anything of bringing this into camp robinson that day and shouldn't say anything about his role in caring for him that day. however, she did mention that he died late in the evening, 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. at night. and after he died, he went back to his quarters there and the crowd went with him and slept on the porch of their home. mostly because he probably feared for the safety of mcgillycuddy. it was a very volatile day and night. and so by his presence there, it was like he tried his best to help. so fanny wrote about this with mcgillicuddy coming home late in the evening. but that they slept on the porch that evening to watch over them. so that is all that was written by the two of them, personally. so you write these journals and he write letters and all of these reports but looking at it, it was just another indian to him. he knew that he was a great leader, he knew all of that, but through the lens of the present, he didn't really realize the story of crazy horse would become in our generation and even earlier generations

. >> all media exists not in a vacuum, but in relationship to an audience, and journalism is going to be sympathetic, and more aligned with audience that it serves, than with a distant remo remote audience. when a westerner is executed. western nations pay attention. when journalists struggle, they recognise that there are unjust deaths around the world every day. if you overlode the audience with information that is not compelling or interesting, the audience will turn away and you have, in essence, become ipp effective -- ipp effective. >> the foley video was designed for response, and it did. binyamin netanyahu likened the i.s.i.s. and hamas. hamas is i.s.i.s., and i.s.i.s. is hamas. they are the enemy of peace, israel and civilized countries. he was condemned on twitter for exploiting the death of a journalist for propaganda purposes. >> the american president and british prime minister made brief appearances, talking tough before returning to their vacations. police in london issued a statement warning: >> to control the image seems to be misplaced moralism. the video of the fole

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what does this tell but "the new york times" approach to journalism? >> i think they're doing exactly what i learned in college journalism should do, which is report the facts. i mean, when you looked at -- when you look at the information and you look at the facts in both of these cases it's undisputable. even though i am a liberal, i'm a democrat, i want the truth. i want the truth even if it's going to have somebody pull out of the race. and quite frankly, i don't feel it's buried but i will say that there has been more about plagiarism, for example, than who's dropping out and how it affects the component of the senate. >> and lauren, what does this tell us about the way reportersar o'publications that might lean one way or the other approach their jobs? >> hey, good stories cross partisan lines. and this was a juicy one. jonathan martin gets some kudos for digging up information that no one else had. and it does, as leslie said, go to what my profs said in journalism 101. if you have a v-8 moment, oh, my gosh, then it's a great story, and i think

reporting, back to euros and back to great journalism, journalism, as we all know, many of us who do this work from our reporting is hard work. and it takes years. i mean, there is -- it is only alluded to unfortunately. the project i did all the research about the has 51 produced segments. i interviewed 25 journalists. what was interesting, the fellow who brought down joseph mccarthy was not a word are murrow. it was murder of the post. he was assigned to watch everything that joseph mccarthy said for four full years. by the time he got into year two and three he knew what he had heard before. he also know what little evidence there was. the army hearings less because of a series he did that he says lebron about the end of mccarthy within months. and so great investigative reporting usually takes a long time. it is not. >> stuff. so one of the victim's car and a need to have time and attention to the work. the best work or or is involved or lot of time and attention. we have always noticed a lot of people. this book had 18 or 20 researchers helping me for nine years. and i apologize

committing journalism is not a crime.is is aon that it dangerous trend we should deprive of oxygen. governmentthe dropped the subpoena against risen immediately. thank you. [applause] >> our next speaker, courtney raj, is a journalist and free expression advocate who writes and speaks often on the intersection of media, technology and human rights within interest in particular on the middle east. or is currently the advocacy are at the committee to protec'g the right to report campaign aimed at ending surveillance and harassment of journalists will stop prior to joining, she was at unesco where she coordinated the freedom of expression section strategy in the arab region. managed theviously global freedom of expression campaign at freedom house and has worked for the daily star in lebanon and the new york times. [applause] >> thank you. turnommittee to protect west is seriously concerned about the actions taken by the department of justice and the ongoing efforts to subpoena jim which could have a chilling effect on the u

wall street journal columnist and foreign affairs columnist. to you first. too little, too late for the president? >> back in april he gave a talk in which he defined his policy as singles and doubles and it adds up. he's doing singles and doubles when he needs a grand slam home run. what they have done so far does not reflect the reality on the ground. it is an extremist jihadist group that we have threatened so far. they are threatening kurdistan, the city of erbil. christians being cleaned out of northern iraq. now why is nobody fighting back? that's because isis is heavily, heavily armed, often with american equipment that they have stolen there. both the iraqis and kurds have said we will fight back if we get sustained u.s. air cover to help us. and so far, the president has not committed himself to an operation that would allow our allies, if we can call them that, to fight back against isis. and unless we do that, i think the situation there is going to continue to disintegrate. >> i think dan is being too generous to the president. this isn't singles

now back to "journal editorial report." >>> welcome back to this special edition of the "journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. well, it's labor day weekend, the unofficial start of the fall campaign season. as house and senate candidates are busy courting voters in their home states, analysts are busy looking at poll numbers and trying to determine if a much talked about gop wave is likely to materialize republican pollster wit joins me with his take. good to have you here. >> good to be with you again. >> i saw a poll this week saying republicans at the grass roots, not in washington, republican voters at the grass roots, are expecting a big victory this november. are those expectations fair and accurate? >> paul, there are a lot of factors that lead to republican victories this year. it's the sixth year of a president's term, which is historically been bad for the party in the white house. president obama's job approval is mired in the low 40s and doesn't seem to be going anywhere but down. support for his signature achievement, obamacare, is similarly mired in the low 40s. the gene

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"washington journal" is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> journalist glenn greenwald broke the story on edward snowden his book is "no place tn hide: edward snowden, the nsa, and the u.s. surveillance state." eyis is one hour and 15 minute.l >> good evening. ticks and i am the coowner of politics and prose and on behalf of thetaff entire staff i would like to we welcome you. we are always delighted toand partner with cosponsoring author talks including the organization and we have done a terrific job, of establishing this is alookino brilliant center celebrating its 10th anniversary and we lookore forward to agree partnership with them. i'm often asked by reuters foruh advice on how to promoteed a bok after it has been published and i don't think i've evermaking suggested going out and winning a pulitzer prize in making sure it is awarded just before the release of the book. but that is what glenn greenwald did. so how's that working out? >> pretty well. inport >> he led the reporting team with a long with "the washington post" 1

stuart: wall street journal put his approval rating at 40%. it is heading for a three handle? >> i think he alienated people who do not understand him and because he used his gift as he says it, holy a partisan way rather than a presidential way, he has alienated people. he has a style of speaking that can move groups and send them against one another. he does not have a presidential vocabulary that can unite the american people. at a time the poll suggested they are dying for presidential leadership for leadership from washington of some sort. stuart: what do you make of him going on vacation? he leaves for martha's vineyard saturday morning august 9th, off the goes on vacation with the world aflame. what do you make of that? >> it shows a disinterest on his part, that list of things going on in the world you just read at the open of this program, what isis is doing driving christian out of cities they have lived in for thousands of years, russia on the border of ukraine, that is disturbing to the average american and yet the president purpor

just as long as you have the integrity of the process of investigative journalism. we do have places propublica as they are in their place is doing. i just think we need a lot more of it and we need the credibility that when people read the stories the facts are such that we can't just look at them in a partisan lens and say we don't like this person for this person or those newspapers that we don't have to believe it. they have to be that hard hitting as these guys were at that time were you couldn't deny the facts they were producing. >> joe from statin island new york. hi joe. if we could put joe aside, i'm sorry about that. it's not very clear. we will go to this young lady over here. >> i love you for saying i'm young, thank you. my name is cary. i am a real investigator and i'm a real journalist. >> array. >> you are being tag teamed accidentally. everybody is a journalist with every pda we have every moment is a potential public moment. my focus though is the intellectual property and the effect affect of what we create and how it has taken on. i'd love to ha

and so journalism became the place for them. and then once you get a group of journalists, as there were at this one magazine, who become so respected and they become national figures, then more magazines want to do it, and it has a multiplier effect. in some ways, that was the subtitle of the book, "the golden age of journalism." there's still the tabloids out there, but this group is lionized in history still. and, clearly, there are people who still go into journalism with that desire today. and in some ways perhaps even though i talked earlier about the diminishing attention span that our common internet brings to us, it also is a platform for people that allow their stuff to get out there with less cost perhaps once their job is done and reach more people, the social media people. just as long as you've got the integrity of the process of the investigative journalism. and we do have places, you know, propublica's there, there are laces that are doing these things -- places that are doing these things. i just think we need a