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joyce, you heard the last question and what the representative was saying. how will this week be written about? how big a deal? it's what we've been tornado warninging about for how long here in the beltway. but for everyday americans, ma will this be written as? >> it feels very much like this is the week where the future of our democracy hangs in the balance. people haven't focused i don't think quite enough yet, richard, on that second article of impeachment which charges that the president in an unprecedented way has refused to comply with legal process, with subpoenas that have asked for documents and for witness testimony in this congressional oversight proceeding. and instead of providing some information and saying well, that's enough, we won't give you anymore, or at least negotiating in good faith, the president issued a blanket refusal to let congress have oversight of the executive branch. if that's the new rules of order going forward, then we are far closer to a society where the president has almost an extreme expansion of power that's unprece
joyce, you heard the last question and what the representative was saying. how will this week be written about? how big a deal? it's what we've been tornado warninging about for how long here in the beltway. but for everyday americans, ma will this be written as? >> it feels very much like this is the week where the future of our democracy hangs in the balance. people haven't focused i don't think quite enough yet, richard, on that second article of impeachment which charges that the...
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attorney joyce vance. good evening to both of you. joyce, taking the wider view that we get to do sometimes, what strikes you as an investigator at just how quick all of that happened and what it sets up as the judiciary prepares for these future hearings? >> i think that the speed with which this unfolded is one of the most interesting features of this entire process in front of the intelligence committee. you know, typically the president is quick to come up with aacy theory or a reason he should be held accountable. but here the pace of testimony was so quick, the drop of news every day of expanding detail was so fast that the president literally couldn't keep up. and i think that that's one of the smart parts of the process in front of the house intelligence committee, is that speed of process. >> yeah. you mentioned he couldn't keep up. a lot of us in news rooms and those of you who report with us were just amazed, mia, when the president was literally at the un. so we know from what he was doing that day he was too busy to confe
attorney joyce vance. good evening to both of you. joyce, taking the wider view that we get to do sometimes, what strikes you as an investigator at just how quick all of that happened and what it sets up as the judiciary prepares for these future hearings? >> i think that the speed with which this unfolded is one of the most interesting features of this entire process in front of the intelligence committee. you know, typically the president is quick to come up with aacy theory or a reason...
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nothing like this. >> joyce? joyce?i'm sorry, i couldn't hear you, ari. >> i just called on you to get your response. >> like norm i was gob smacked last night when i first saw this tape. it was very difficult to process that the leader of the senate went on national television and vowed to violate the oath of office that he was going to take when impeachment proceedings started. and as i have watched it over and over today i'm even more disbelieving than i was the first time that i saw it. of course we know that's not how the clinton process worked. it of course is a coherent political process. the problem going into impeachment after having mcconnell take this sort of vow is there's no way trump can be truly exonerated. even if they vote to acquit him it's a rigged jury. it's not an acquittal. >> it's instructive to the point all of this appears to be a blatant power play. you go on hannity to assure everyone don't worry, there's not even a pretense or a head fake at this being a real process. now, again, whether ever
nothing like this. >> joyce? joyce?i'm sorry, i couldn't hear you, ari. >> i just called on you to get your response. >> like norm i was gob smacked last night when i first saw this tape. it was very difficult to process that the leader of the senate went on national television and vowed to violate the oath of office that he was going to take when impeachment proceedings started. and as i have watched it over and over today i'm even more disbelieving than i was the first time...
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jonathan allen, rick wilson, ron klein and joyce vance., counselor, is there a rabbit on the legal side that the democrats can pull out of the hat in the well of the senate, including but not limited to witnesses' tactics that perhaps we haven't thought of or isn't being discussed at this stage? >> you know, the real problem that the republicans have is that the time to come up with that defense is already passed. so when these allegations first surfaced, they should have come forward with the defense, whatever it was. anything that comes up this late in the game looks manufactured. and we've seen that happen along the path as trump began to try and float trial balloons like the fact that he withheld aid because the europeans weren't paying their fair share which, of course, is not true. or the defense that you previewed here, this sort of notion that he withheld aid because he was concerned about corruption, which, of course, flies in the face of the fact that in 2017 and 2018 trump gave aid there was no concern what joe biden did in ukra
jonathan allen, rick wilson, ron klein and joyce vance., counselor, is there a rabbit on the legal side that the democrats can pull out of the hat in the well of the senate, including but not limited to witnesses' tactics that perhaps we haven't thought of or isn't being discussed at this stage? >> you know, the real problem that the republicans have is that the time to come up with that defense is already passed. so when these allegations first surfaced, they should have come forward...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. sorry, everybody.hat's all the time we have. thank you for coming. just kidding. you do wonder what other broadcasts are doing since we have all the guests at this hour. we're going to make good use of them. ron klain, i'd like to begin with you with the last thing we just heard from mitch mcconnell. is there anything wrong with the white house counsel and the majority leader in the senate as you heard them, working hand in hand, step by step? is there anything ethically wrong with it that you can see? >> well, it's certainly not what the constitution intends. the constitution gives the congress the house the power to impeach the president. the senate, the specific constitutional duty to try the president. and, you know, you had peter baker on before. he is the expert on the clinton impeachment. i was in the clinton white house then. the democrats and the republicans came together to kind of come up with procedures to make the trial a reasonable and serious process. what we've seen here is a very parti
attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. sorry, everybody.hat's all the time we have. thank you for coming. just kidding. you do wonder what other broadcasts are doing since we have all the guests at this hour. we're going to make good use of them. ron klain, i'd like to begin with you with the last thing we just heard from mitch mcconnell. is there anything wrong with the white house counsel and the majority leader in the senate as you heard them, working hand in hand,...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. sorry, everybody. that's all the time we have. thank you for coming. just kidding. you do wonder what other broadcasts are doing since we have all the guests at this hour. we're going to make good use of them. ron klain, i'd like to begin with you with the last thing we just heard from mitch mcconnell. is there anything wrong with the white house counsel and the majority leader in the senate as you heard them, working hand in hand, step by step? is there anything ethically wrong with it that you can see? >> well, it's certainly not what the constitution intends. the constitution gives the congress the house the power to impeach the president. the senate, the specific constitutional duty to try the president. peter baker is the expert on the clinton impeachment. i was in the clinton white house then. the democrats and the republicans came together to kind of come up with procedures to make the trial a reasonable and serious process. what we've seen here is a very partisan approach by the republicans, an
attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. sorry, everybody. that's all the time we have. thank you for coming. just kidding. you do wonder what other broadcasts are doing since we have all the guests at this hour. we're going to make good use of them. ron klain, i'd like to begin with you with the last thing we just heard from mitch mcconnell. is there anything wrong with the white house counsel and the majority leader in the senate as you heard them, working hand in...
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joyce. mr. joyce: thank you, chairman mcgovern, ranking member cole and the distinguished members of this kevment it's an honor to appear before you today as the ranking member on the interior environmental and appropriations committee. i'm pleased to be here with the chair of this committee, my friend, congresswoman betty mccollum. and whatever you're going to give me from minnesota, it sounded great. these are home-made buckeyes. \[laughter] they would go very well with the mcgovern tea and -- \[laughter] \[indiscernible] >> bourbon. \[talking simultaneously] mr. joyce: everything goes well with bourbon, i understand. we've worked over the past month to negotiate a reasonable compromise in order to be able to develop a product and avoid a government shutdown. it's not the bill i would have written but there are things here i may not necessarily agree with, i believe there's so much in this bill that unites us than divides us. there is indeed the conference agreement that provides $36 billion f
joyce. mr. joyce: thank you, chairman mcgovern, ranking member cole and the distinguished members of this kevment it's an honor to appear before you today as the ranking member on the interior environmental and appropriations committee. i'm pleased to be here with the chair of this committee, my friend, congresswoman betty mccollum. and whatever you're going to give me from minnesota, it sounded great. these are home-made buckeyes. \[laughter] they would go very well with the mcgovern tea and...
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joyce, we know democrats will pursue articles of impeachment focussed on abuse of power and obstruction of congress. we don't yet know what those actual articles will look like. we likely won't know until the committee debates them later in the week. what details are porn for us to pay particular attention to? >> you know, as they say, geoff, the devil is always in the details. that's incredibly true when it comes to a charging document, whether it's an indictment or article of impeachment. the democrats have laid out the broad contours of the charges against the president, both the abuse and the obstruction. when we begin to see the exact language in the articles of impeachment, we'll learn more about the evidence they intend to present in the senate and the contours of the narrative that they'll try to take the american people who are ultimately the jury. it will be the senate that votes, but it's the american people that democrats still have to convince that this president committed impeachable offenses. the way they'll do that is with the facts and turning those facts into a narrati
joyce, we know democrats will pursue articles of impeachment focussed on abuse of power and obstruction of congress. we don't yet know what those actual articles will look like. we likely won't know until the committee debates them later in the week. what details are porn for us to pay particular attention to? >> you know, as they say, geoff, the devil is always in the details. that's incredibly true when it comes to a charging document, whether it's an indictment or article of...
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so, joyce, this is igor fruman. what do you think this is all about?ght, so this is a joint defense agreement. we've seen this before. there was actually some reporting, ironically it was rudy giuliani who let it slip, that during the mueller investigation, the president was involved in a joint defense agreement that let them talk with other potential subjects or targets of the investigation. and that's what a joint defense agreement is for. it's for people who believe that they're about to be indicted, probably in a conspiracy together, and it lets them share information without taking that information outside of the attorney/client privilege. the information is still protected while they're sharing it. they can coordinate on a defense strategy. they can learn what people are telling prosecutors. this is what you do when you think that you're going to be indicted. and this is what rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer, is doing. >> joyce, you have said that delay is the democrats' best friend, on the subject of impeachment. it does indeed, in addition
so, joyce, this is igor fruman. what do you think this is all about?ght, so this is a joint defense agreement. we've seen this before. there was actually some reporting, ironically it was rudy giuliani who let it slip, that during the mueller investigation, the president was involved in a joint defense agreement that let them talk with other potential subjects or targets of the investigation. and that's what a joint defense agreement is for. it's for people who believe that they're about to be...
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wishing you happy holidays to you and your family, joyce. thank you so much for coming on. >> you too, brian. >>> coming up for us, after a tense week, the president accepts an invitation from the speaker of the house. wields a mighty gavel. more on that when we come back. >>> bill clinton's campaign to save his presidency officially began today. but tonight it takes center stage as he delivers his seventh state of the union address. >> the late, great, gwen ifill reporting the story back then and for the second time in a modern u.s. history, a president will deliver the state of the union address under the cloud of impeachment. just two days after the house vote to impeach, speaker nancy pelosi invited donald trump to address a joint session of congress on the 4th of february. it could happen in the midst of a senate trial. either way, it will be an arresting visual to go with this one, when we see the speaker over the president's shoulder once again. we are pleased tonight to be joined once again by our friend and presidential historian an
wishing you happy holidays to you and your family, joyce. thank you so much for coming on. >> you too, brian. >>> coming up for us, after a tense week, the president accepts an invitation from the speaker of the house. wields a mighty gavel. more on that when we come back. >>> bill clinton's campaign to save his presidency officially began today. but tonight it takes center stage as he delivers his seventh state of the union address. >> the late, great, gwen ifill...
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attorney joyce vance at the table. and nbc and nbc john heilemann. john heilemann, you were there. this seems more like a symbolic prospect than a vote-counting one. you've got to get to 20 republican senators to convict him. nobody thinks that's a possibility based on the politics as they are right now as we sit. but even one or two would symbolically sort of swipe at this white house on substance and on politics. >> i think, look, the reality is that that the white house is very focused on the number of republicans who vote for impeachment in the house and they're really focused on the number of republicans who would vote for convict trump in the senate. and anything that makes it not a party-line vote makes it harder for president trump to say it's a partisan witch hunt, it's all the democrats. and you remember republicans that break and the bigger the number on both sides, the worse it is for trump. they are going to spend a lot of time, effort, and energy over the next two months trying to keep those numbers as small as possible. it's possible now with the will hurd news from
attorney joyce vance at the table. and nbc and nbc john heilemann. john heilemann, you were there. this seems more like a symbolic prospect than a vote-counting one. you've got to get to 20 republican senators to convict him. nobody thinks that's a possibility based on the politics as they are right now as we sit. but even one or two would symbolically sort of swipe at this white house on substance and on politics. >> i think, look, the reality is that that the white house is very focused...
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joyce, let's start with you on this. is senator kennedy right, basically there are no rules is what he is saying, that anything can possibly happen here? >> he's a little bit free form, but i think he has the essence of it down. this is not a criminal process. it's important to remember nobody is at risk of going to prison at the end of it. it's about whether or not the president keeps his job. and senator kennedy is also correct when he notes that the senators don't just play the traditional role that jurors play deciding what facts the evidence has proven. they also play an important role in determining what the procedure is and what the local standards are. but where i think he goes a little bit astray is in thinking that those rules are lindsay graham. but really what has to happen here is republicans need the votes of 51 senators to impose these rules on the proceedings. and although they hold the majority of 53 votes in the senate, at least lisa murkowski, possibly others, have expressed some misgivings about not h
joyce, let's start with you on this. is senator kennedy right, basically there are no rules is what he is saying, that anything can possibly happen here? >> he's a little bit free form, but i think he has the essence of it down. this is not a criminal process. it's important to remember nobody is at risk of going to prison at the end of it. it's about whether or not the president keeps his job. and senator kennedy is also correct when he notes that the senators don't just play the...
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joyce vance joins us now along with glenn kirschner. both are msnbc contributors.oyce, i want to start with you. is there still a fairway for this to be a fair trial? >> we all understand as americans in the context of criminal trial what a fair process looks like. it doesn't mean that we do it in every case, but our system works because people believe that in most cases it functions with integrity. the senate takes an enormous risk, particularly these republican senators if they don't agree to fundamental basic processes that conform to americans' expectations of how trials should work including making important relevant fact witnesses available and allowing the evidence to be considered in a way that conforms with our sense of justice. >> glenn, i want to focus on this question of witnesses, there was sound early this morni morning. take a listen. >> every time donald trump refused to have witnesses come before the house, we still were able to find all this information so that we could get to the buoyant point. but all the people that donald trump has said that c
joyce vance joins us now along with glenn kirschner. both are msnbc contributors.oyce, i want to start with you. is there still a fairway for this to be a fair trial? >> we all understand as americans in the context of criminal trial what a fair process looks like. it doesn't mean that we do it in every case, but our system works because people believe that in most cases it functions with integrity. the senate takes an enormous risk, particularly these republican senators if they don't...
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joyce, john durham, a standing u.s.orney today commented on an ongoing matter, gave us a status report. is that something you did as a u.s. attorney enjoying the same rank as he has? and is that any better or worse than what comey did with hillary endearing him to so many democrats? >> so brian, that's not something that u.s. attorneys do. we don't comment on ongoing investigations except in very carefully enumerated situations. often we'll comment, for instance, on opening a civil rights matter so the community understands that doj is looking at it. but to make this sort of a comment, qualitative comment on the investigation to say his results are different than the inspector general's results and to talk about the fact that's due to his access to other kinds of witnesses is extremely unusual. it's extremely inappropriate, and i think you're right, we have to look at this sort of obvious comparison that will be drawn between what he did and what jim comey did. if there's one lesson we can learn from the discussion of t
joyce, john durham, a standing u.s.orney today commented on an ongoing matter, gave us a status report. is that something you did as a u.s. attorney enjoying the same rank as he has? and is that any better or worse than what comey did with hillary endearing him to so many democrats? >> so brian, that's not something that u.s. attorneys do. we don't comment on ongoing investigations except in very carefully enumerated situations. often we'll comment, for instance, on opening a civil rights...
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many of you probably know the story of joyce heath, a slave woman who was being promoted as being 161 years old, and the nurse maid of george washington is a baby. even barnum became embarrassed by that part of his life later on. his treatment of his wife certainly towards the middle and end of their marriage was not acceptable, i think. part of it i think grew out of this -- he came from a culture very much into practical joes and very rough humor. arthur pointed out when barnum took tom thumb to meet queen victoria, everything you read about it now is what a wonderful impression both men made on the royal family but arthur went and read victoria's diary for that day, her journal, and she was very troubled by the way barnum spoke to tom thumb. suspect it was partly that she didn't understand american humor, but there was a lot in barnum's humor that was rough, and a lot of it was directed towards his wife in ways that i think were pretty hard to forgive. and must be said that barnum -- barnum was somebody who was unusually needy for wealth and admiration, that's not a quality i parti
many of you probably know the story of joyce heath, a slave woman who was being promoted as being 161 years old, and the nurse maid of george washington is a baby. even barnum became embarrassed by that part of his life later on. his treatment of his wife certainly towards the middle and end of their marriage was not acceptable, i think. part of it i think grew out of this -- he came from a culture very much into practical joes and very rough humor. arthur pointed out when barnum took tom thumb...
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i'm also joined by joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the northern district of alabama. she's also an msnbc contributor. ms. jackson, i'll start with you. let's start with impeachment. it remains very much on the mind of the president apparently on this christmas eve. >> it sure does. you can tell by what he said in this pool spray over mar-a-lago. just down the road, hosted up at west palm beach. you saw the president engaged in cable news, watching fox news it seems, quoting or talking about different segments he heard related to impeachment and also related to the economy. it's clear the president is trying to get a message out that relates to the positive things he's done over the past year and will do over the next year. chief among them, focusing on economic numbers as the president so often does. the specter of impeachment yet hangs over this white house because there is still a holiday hiatus on any negotiations over a senate trial. the president has said today, as he has said all along, that he believes democrats have treated him unfairly. what i thought was int
i'm also joined by joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the northern district of alabama. she's also an msnbc contributor. ms. jackson, i'll start with you. let's start with impeachment. it remains very much on the mind of the president apparently on this christmas eve. >> it sure does. you can tell by what he said in this pool spray over mar-a-lago. just down the road, hosted up at west palm beach. you saw the president engaged in cable news, watching fox news it seems, quoting or...
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it's a straightforward account that is rather damning. >> joyce? >> you know, i think david's absolutely right. and the key thing that i take away after having read most of this report is that schiff comes up with what mueller was lacking in the russia investigation. schiff has the evidence that president trump, as he says in the report, personally and with agents inside and outside of government directed this scheme as it was in operation, directed a scheme that was an effort to extort a foreign country, to get evidence, to get information that trump could use for personal advantage to cheat in a campaign. so, this is sort of like the russia investigation, but the obstruction didn't work in this case. >> joyce, i want to walk through some of that key evidence. it is possible that a president could do some of the things in this report and not have committed, by any stretch, a high crime. many people have pointed out there's all sorts of deals in foreign policy. of course there are. there's treaties. that's a deal. there's leverage and pressure. of
it's a straightforward account that is rather damning. >> joyce? >> you know, i think david's absolutely right. and the key thing that i take away after having read most of this report is that schiff comes up with what mueller was lacking in the russia investigation. schiff has the evidence that president trump, as he says in the report, personally and with agents inside and outside of government directed this scheme as it was in operation, directed a scheme that was an effort to...
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. >> joining me now is pete williams, nbc news' justice correspondent, and joyce advanced, former u.s contributor. welcome, both. pete, you were at the news conference. do they have any idea who these guys are? >> yes, they know they're both in russia. the poster you showed earlier says it all, wanted by the fbi. they admitted these charges won't shut down their operation. but whenever these individuals are indicted, it makes it impossible for them to travel, there are interpol notices and so forth. they said this is the worst hacking operation in a decade, 300 organizations targeted in 43 countries. it was a very simple thing. they sent innocent-looking emails. this is the basic phishing thing that people clicked on, launching malware into their computers and it injected very sophisticated malware that was connecting a hose into people's bank accounts and draining them. >> in answer to a question you asked at the news conference, this stuff is still there in various places, the malware, so victims need to be alerted. >> yes. so often the fbi finds out that people don't have the prope
. >> joining me now is pete williams, nbc news' justice correspondent, and joyce advanced, former u.s contributor. welcome, both. pete, you were at the news conference. do they have any idea who these guys are? >> yes, they know they're both in russia. the poster you showed earlier says it all, wanted by the fbi. they admitted these charges won't shut down their operation. but whenever these individuals are indicted, it makes it impossible for them to travel, there are interpol...
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that was for joyce. >> oh.so sorry. >> the alabama senate race on the republican side is a curious sort of a race right now. we're actually seeing roy moore redo. he's running in the primary again. he's running against former senator jeff sessions and a sitting republican congressman has pointed out that jeff sessions was, in his words, a terrible attorney general who let the president down. so i think jones can sit back and watch the republicans beat each other up and see what's left. and you know what, katy, it's important to remember that there is some movement on the evangelical side of the equation. there's some indication that support for this president may be lessening as his lies and his misconduct sort of pile on to people's conscious. so there's no real telling where alabama voters will be come november 2020. but if jones goes into this impeachment proceeding and takes the position that he'll do the right thing, you know, we've seen the leader in the senate say that he's prejudged. i think jones will
that was for joyce. >> oh.so sorry. >> the alabama senate race on the republican side is a curious sort of a race right now. we're actually seeing roy moore redo. he's running in the primary again. he's running against former senator jeff sessions and a sitting republican congressman has pointed out that jeff sessions was, in his words, a terrible attorney general who let the president down. so i think jones can sit back and watch the republicans beat each other up and see what's...
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let me go to joyce on this. it isn't just the law now. it's how the speaker calls it, and did she call it right and victoriously? >> you know, this is the real interception of the law and politics. and i think one of the truisms of the last couple of years in politics is that anyone who questions nancy pelosi ultimately comes to see that she is strategically brilliant. i think she's very focused here. i listened to representative collins' complaints about these articles of impeachment, and i don't think they serve him very well. because there are specifics in article i, this is solicitation of a foreign country for help in an election, this is bribery and extortion and ultimately a conspiracy by the president to do both of those things. but the real telling point where nancy pelosi's strategy will come through is when collins and his colleagues begin to complain about the damage done to their body, done to congress by these proceedings, democrats need only refer to article ii which lays out that the president in unprecedented fashion has
let me go to joyce on this. it isn't just the law now. it's how the speaker calls it, and did she call it right and victoriously? >> you know, this is the real interception of the law and politics. and i think one of the truisms of the last couple of years in politics is that anyone who questions nancy pelosi ultimately comes to see that she is strategically brilliant. i think she's very focused here. i listened to representative collins' complaints about these articles of impeachment,...
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joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s.ce, thank you so much for being here to help us sort through this filing. >> glad to be with you, rachel. >> so, originally, prosecutors did not seem bothered by the prospect that lev parnas was going to be on house arrest with an ankle monitor. to those of us that aren't lawyers, that seemed a little crazy, given with the way they arrested him, he was on a jetway on a oplane with a one-way tickt out of the country. now they're saying, oops, we were wrong. and among other things he had money coming in from places like rushy he lied to us about and that means we think he's a flight risk. tell us how unusual this is, if you've seen patterns like this in other cases. >> you know, i think that this is a pretty familiar pattern. initially, the prosecutors in southern district thought that they'd be able to work some sort of cooperation deal with parnas. that, i think, is why we saw those relatively modest conditions of release, given the fact that he was found, as you say, almost on the tar
joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s.ce, thank you so much for being here to help us sort through this filing. >> glad to be with you, rachel. >> so, originally, prosecutors did not seem bothered by the prospect that lev parnas was going to be on house arrest with an ankle monitor. to those of us that aren't lawyers, that seemed a little crazy, given with the way they arrested him, he was on a jetway on a oplane with a one-way tickt out of the country. now they're saying, oops,...
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joyce vance, thank you so much.ing your piece in "time" magazine and we appreciate youth today. >>> coming up next, president trump jokes about north korea's tla christmas gift. we'll be talking to david ignatius and dig straight into that next on "morning joe." dio that next on "morning joe." us. it's what this country is made of. but right now, our bond is fraying. how do we get back to "us"? the y fills the gaps. and bridges our divides. donate to your local y today. because where there's a y, there's an us. >>> threatening a christmas surprise for the world? >> that's okay. we'll find out what the surprise is and we'll deal with it very successfully. let's see what happens. everybody's got surprises for me, but let's see what happens. i handle them as they come along. you saw that these are great people. our military's now replenished. we were totally depleted when i came into office, and it's -- it's great stuff. it's great stuff. what's happened. and you see these incredible people. we have the best in the wor
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joyce, to you first, those e-mails legally speaking, do they connect any additional dots? >> you know they do connect dots, and one of the most interesting things is why we have this e-mail. it's because of a small nonpr non-profit news room set a question for the freedom of information act asking that they be turned over and they weren't provided until the very last minute that the court order would have permitted. so i think we need to have that context in mine as we look at the big blocks of black in the load of information that was provided, but we see this very clear notice that the final decision to withhold aide was not communicated to the pentagon for 91 minutes. maybe it is coincidence, but at a bare minimum it means they must tough. it is a shame process if we don't hear from them in the senate. >> the president was just using executive privilege, congress was wrong for impeaching him to congress. >> the big flaw is that the wth didn't claim executive privilege. if you look at that letter that sent back near the binning of the -- beginning of the impeachment proc
joyce, to you first, those e-mails legally speaking, do they connect any additional dots? >> you know they do connect dots, and one of the most interesting things is why we have this e-mail. it's because of a small nonpr non-profit news room set a question for the freedom of information act asking that they be turned over and they weren't provided until the very last minute that the court order would have permitted. so i think we need to have that context in mine as we look at the big...
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backed war crimes coming up on the show australia's former deputy prime minister barnaby joyce hell is going on the ground that the issue of a songes extradition to the usa is one of australian sovereignty over its citizens and justice itself and to the cradle of humanity from the big bang to the birth of civilization we investigate the cause of mclucas that led to the creation of the human ability to manipulate others all the small coming up in today's going underground before us the day after this week's u.k. general elections on thursday june innocence founder of wiki leaks is said tool to appear at westminster magistrates court in london it follows his removal from the ecuadorian embassy here with his 70 is he had been granted political asylum from u.s. prosecution for revealing nato nation war crimes and songes australian and successive australian governments have come under fire for not caring about the protection of this citizen australia as part of the so-called 5 eyes mass surveillance system about which cia whistleblower edward snowden revealed so much before seeking asylum i
backed war crimes coming up on the show australia's former deputy prime minister barnaby joyce hell is going on the ground that the issue of a songes extradition to the usa is one of australian sovereignty over its citizens and justice itself and to the cradle of humanity from the big bang to the birth of civilization we investigate the cause of mclucas that led to the creation of the human ability to manipulate others all the small coming up in today's going underground before us the day after...
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backed war crimes coming out of the show australia's forward deputy prime minister barnaby joyce hell is going on the ground that the issue of a songes extradition to the usa is one of australian sovereignty over its citizens and justice itself and to the cradle of humanity from the big bang to the birth of civilization we investigate the cause of mcluhan that led to the creation of the human ability to manipulate others all the small coming up in today's going underground before us the day after this week's u.k. general elections on thursday june innocence founder of wiki leaks is shuttle to appear at westminster magistrates court in london it follows his removal from the ecuadorian embassy here with his 70 is he had been granted political asylum from u.s. prosecution for revealing nato nation war crimes and songes australian and successive australian governments have come under fire for not caring about the protection of this citizen australia as part of the so-called 5 eyes mass surveillance system about which cia whistleblower edward snowden revealed so much before seeking asylum
backed war crimes coming out of the show australia's forward deputy prime minister barnaby joyce hell is going on the ground that the issue of a songes extradition to the usa is one of australian sovereignty over its citizens and justice itself and to the cradle of humanity from the big bang to the birth of civilization we investigate the cause of mcluhan that led to the creation of the human ability to manipulate others all the small coming up in today's going underground before us the day...
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and radio host and in chattanooga we crossed to brian joyce he is the host of the brian joyce show aren't cross-like rose in fact that. you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate card let me go to you 1st in palm beach i'm going to date myself with my 1st question to everyone here i remember very clearly the watergate hearings i played hooky from school pretended i was sick and i would watch it on a little tiny black and white t.v. watching the hearings p. .
and radio host and in chattanooga we crossed to brian joyce he is the host of the brian joyce show aren't cross-like rose in fact that. you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate card let me go to you 1st in palm beach i'm going to date myself with my 1st question to everyone here i remember very clearly the watergate hearings i played hooky from school pretended i was sick and i would watch it on a little tiny black and white t.v. watching the hearings p. .
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who will be pardoned, prosecuted, or imprisoned, joyce?ve a little bit of an outlier pick here, joy. my pick is a pardon for congressman duncan hunter, california congressman, conservative from san diego, one of president trump's first supporters in congress. you may remember that hunter was indicted for abusing campaign funds. this was the guy who went out to golf courses and bought himself clothing in the pro shop claiming that it was money being used as a donation for wounded warriors projects. he'll be convicted -- or he's pleaded guilty. he'll be sentenced in early february. i think that there may be a high political cost to the president for issuing a pardon to manafort, to flynn, as barb says, to stone, too early in the game. but the president loves the pardon power, and a pardon of hunter would be a great way to signal to these other people that they should stay loyal, that they shouldn't offer testimony during impeachment that would damage the president, that he will use the pardon power to help them out when the time comes, just
who will be pardoned, prosecuted, or imprisoned, joyce?ve a little bit of an outlier pick here, joy. my pick is a pardon for congressman duncan hunter, california congressman, conservative from san diego, one of president trump's first supporters in congress. you may remember that hunter was indicted for abusing campaign funds. this was the guy who went out to golf courses and bought himself clothing in the pro shop claiming that it was money being used as a donation for wounded warriors...
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and radio host and in chattanooga we crossed to brian joyce he is the host of the brian joyce show aren't cross in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate card let me go to you 1st in palm beach i'm going to date myself with my 1st question to everyone here i remember very clearly the watergate .
and radio host and in chattanooga we crossed to brian joyce he is the host of the brian joyce show aren't cross in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate card let me go to you 1st in palm beach i'm going to date myself with my 1st question to everyone here i remember very clearly the watergate .
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joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney. thank you for your time. happy holidays to you. >>> the fact that we have new evidence in the ukraine scandal, these heavily redacted emails between the white house and the pentagon about withholding military aid, and we have gotten it after the president has already been impeached, the drama is heightened by what's playing in the background. the articles of impeachment approved by the house haven't been sent to the senate. today was another day of attacks and recriminations on all sides as house speaker nancy pelosi continued to insist that she would hold onto those articles until the senate announces what kind of trial it has planned. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell called her position absurd, and the president weighed in with a crazy nancy tweet. but given that the impeachment articles do not appear to be leaving the house anytime soon and given that yet more evidence may come out in the weeks ahead, the standoff feels very unpredictable. what should we expect? joining us is congressman raja krish
joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney. thank you for your time. happy holidays to you. >>> the fact that we have new evidence in the ukraine scandal, these heavily redacted emails between the white house and the pentagon about withholding military aid, and we have gotten it after the president has already been impeached, the drama is heightened by what's playing in the background. the articles of impeachment approved by the house haven't been sent to the senate. today was another day...
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joyce starting with you. these emails about ukraine were just released through the freedom of averages act, kelly talked about. do you see new evidence of a trial here? >> you know, there's a lot of evidence of crimes here, gigi. both involving this email about the delay, the order to the pentagon to stop releasing ukrainian funds, but also about the content of the president's activity and obstruction of congress. we only see this email because a small journalist enterprise file add freedom of information request. these are documents that should have been delivered by the trump white house to congress purchase pursuant to its subpoenas and, of course, they failed to produce anything. here they got this aggressively redacted tranche of emails at the very last moment the judge permitted the government to turn them over. late at night on the friday evening before christmas. what we see here is fresh evidence that one of the witnesses who senator schumer has asked to have testify in the senate and who mitch mccon
joyce starting with you. these emails about ukraine were just released through the freedom of averages act, kelly talked about. do you see new evidence of a trial here? >> you know, there's a lot of evidence of crimes here, gigi. both involving this email about the delay, the order to the pentagon to stop releasing ukrainian funds, but also about the content of the president's activity and obstruction of congress. we only see this email because a small journalist enterprise file add...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. welcome to all of you. beth, let me start with you. we've been seeing him mainly on twitter the last couple of days, going after nancy pelosi in particular, very aggressive on there. the democrats, nancy pelosi included, in declining form now to transmit these articles to the senate. one of the things we've been told is they basically think this can get under donald trump's skin, provoke a reaction in him that might give them leverage. is this the reaction they were looking for at all, or is this just par for the course from donald trump? >> he's making it very, very personal about nancy pelosi, there's no question about i. of course it is very much under his skin. he's been, you know, he's, you know, how many tweets, several dozen since the christmas vacation began, specifically about this. it's very much bothering him. and on top of that, this is all going to collide with the democrats getting under way really in earnest in iowa and new hampshire. we're only about 40 days away from the iowa caucuses and t
attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. welcome to all of you. beth, let me start with you. we've been seeing him mainly on twitter the last couple of days, going after nancy pelosi in particular, very aggressive on there. the democrats, nancy pelosi included, in declining form now to transmit these articles to the senate. one of the things we've been told is they basically think this can get under donald trump's skin, provoke a reaction in him that might give them...
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and radio host and in chattanooga we crossed to brian joyce he is the host of the brian joyce show aren't cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate card let me go to you 1st in palm beach i'm going to date myself with my 1st question to everyone here i remember very clearly the watergate hearings i played hooky from school pretended i was sick and i would watch it on a little tiny black and white t.v. watching the hearings peter regino i remember him very carefully and it was world historic and then we all remember bill clinton and certain things like blue dresses and stuff like that and the reason why i bring up those 2 examples because there were facts facts that everyone agreed to facts that were dealt with obstruction and other crimes high crimes and misdemeanors by the way so i was watching jerry nad lawyer and unfortunately a week before that adam shift and i think i'm kind of a normal pretty smart guy you know i like politics always home i don't understand what's going on here what are these hearings about why are lawyers intervi
and radio host and in chattanooga we crossed to brian joyce he is the host of the brian joyce show aren't cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate card let me go to you 1st in palm beach i'm going to date myself with my 1st question to everyone here i remember very clearly the watergate hearings i played hooky from school pretended i was sick and i would watch it on a little tiny black and white t.v. watching the hearings peter regino i...
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attorney joyce vance. good evening to you.t do you think of obstructing congress as the second article and the choice not to get into something that our viewers know about that you testified to congress about, alleged obstruction in the mueller probe? >> so, i think that this is a very clever strategic move by the house. this second article of impeachment is drafted in a very narrow way. it applies only to the president's flat-out refusal to comply with subpoenas in the ukraine investigation. the facts are incontrovertible. republicans have not made any effort to say the president hasn't done this. so the question that republicans will have to face is, is this okay? is it okay for a president to refuse to let congress do its job? i think it puts them in a box in a very nice way. >> i want to read the only reference we could find -- i'm curious what you found -- that goes to something that came up from some of our experts in tonight's broad cast. when do you use a scheme or pattern to suggest things? the senate trial ultimately
attorney joyce vance. good evening to you.t do you think of obstructing congress as the second article and the choice not to get into something that our viewers know about that you testified to congress about, alleged obstruction in the mueller probe? >> so, i think that this is a very clever strategic move by the house. this second article of impeachment is drafted in a very narrow way. it applies only to the president's flat-out refusal to comply with subpoenas in the ukraine...
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joyce when surgeon leader of the s.n.p. joyce winston liberal democrats they'll be voting off in scotland now we get. a exit poll as the ballot box is closed 10 o'clock this evening that's the 1st idea we'll have about which direction this election is heading then the voting will take sort of the council will take us all the way through the nights and we'll get a much more concrete idea some time some more a morning boris johnson of course is hoping to do much better than his predecessor to reason made it in 2017 she called a snap election to strengthen her bricks it position and ended up blowing. majority he is trying to make this election all about breaks it breaks it breaks it breaks it is the main message you've heard coming out of boris johnson jeremy corbyn is trying to refocus things onto public services and the national health service particularly. tactical voting is likely to be a big consideration in this election we don't know how much but we'll have to wait and see but the traditional bourne's of party loyalty s
joyce when surgeon leader of the s.n.p. joyce winston liberal democrats they'll be voting off in scotland now we get. a exit poll as the ballot box is closed 10 o'clock this evening that's the 1st idea we'll have about which direction this election is heading then the voting will take sort of the council will take us all the way through the nights and we'll get a much more concrete idea some time some more a morning boris johnson of course is hoping to do much better than his predecessor to...
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i think joyce architecture is emotion pure emotion there's one single idea one single concept to a building and it shapes every last detail that. has designed 6 truck chairs for the tamils your experience as it's called along the alpine road. another of his projects was dedicated in autumn 2018 on the south to raleigh inside the tamil transit museum it was a revival of a historical building. we were dealing with an old customs office building from the 1960 s. that's how it functioned and now it functions just as well as a museum but it's hard to speak a functioning. i'd almost rather say form follows landscape landscape. the architect avoids putting up entirely new structures he's seen as a master of revitalization his work on sigmund. made his name far beyond south to roll his futuristic concepts have also drawn widespread attention. completed one of his boldest projects in 2017. he built his own private residence high above where he was born and. the landscape is the star here nothing architect. and feel if you make a mistake it's your own fault. for someone else you can't experiment with
i think joyce architecture is emotion pure emotion there's one single idea one single concept to a building and it shapes every last detail that. has designed 6 truck chairs for the tamils your experience as it's called along the alpine road. another of his projects was dedicated in autumn 2018 on the south to raleigh inside the tamil transit museum it was a revival of a historical building. we were dealing with an old customs office building from the 1960 s. that's how it functioned and now it...