this mou i want to be very clear has nothing to do with the jttf or that type of work. (indiscernible) this is a work around is something that i want to put to bud bed now because it wasn't. we follow 3.01. the mou was not a mou with anything to do with jttf or anything like that and it also we definitely put pause in the mou about body worn camera s because we didn't want what happened in other cities and task force configurations there was a time the federal government did not allow body worn cameras in these task force operations. we would not participate under those conditions so wanted to spell that out and make it clear that our officers if involveped and doing enforcement they will wear the body worn cameras. >> there was a article and you had said one reason the jttf or concern or problem with it was the fact officers were working closely with the fbi officers and create this relationship with them and have a working relationship and it is difficult to be in a position where you work with someone every single day and you have different objectives and different s

s office and the jttf, the secret service, et cetera? >> yeah, they work with these agencies all the time. they obviously have a good relationship they depend on them in order to do their jobs. it's a two-way street. we're not privy to all those conversations. i wish that we were. i wish we could report on exactly what that looks like but i think it is fair to say that these are people in a position to know these are top level law enforcement officials. they don't make moves for nothing. >> an indictment itself, would we -- i don't know anything, i'm just going to say this now but if there were an indictment, would we know about it immediately? when do we find out that the president has been indicted and when does he find out that he's been indicted if that happens? >> in all likelihood we would not know about it immediately, as much as i wish i could report that it is most likely we would see it filed under seal by the prosecutor's office. it gets filed under seal with the court. we would not know about that unless it's in a reportable