. >> i decided to convert to judaism because i heard jesus was a jew. living like the jewish people live and you consider yourself as a jew. i don't know. i was wondering the same thing, am i actually a jew? but i think one of the main things of becoming jewish is you have to be circumcised, i guess. >> so, you got that covered? >> i am definitely circumcised, yes. so maybe it was meant for me to be jewish. >> some inmates have been known to convert to judaism on the belief they will eat better on a kosher meal plan. but they must first go through a transition period to assure they're serious. in that case, going kosher means going sparse. >> the most difficult part of converting to judaism for me so far is eating beans, rice and carrots and bread for lunch and dinner. every single day. other than that, i love it. whoever made this tray should be put in jail. but it's all right. i accept it for what it is, you know. it's god's will. i guess that's what i'm supposed to eat. >> though mckaskle has been writing to his girlfriend, heather pratt, who is curr

the state of israel, israel's leaders assumed that religious judaism was fading and he reversed that. he proposed jewish ideas, jewish values, jewish practices as good and of themselves. not just tradition but as positive forces for change in the world that weren't just restricted to jews elm the values that judaism propoets -- promotes would be valuable to the whole world. in the course of that project, he became very widely respected, not just in new york, where he lived, but throughout the country, for his advice, he advised political leaders and not just in american politics but israeli politics and globe afars. and politicians would come to seek his advice, robert kennedy and ronald reagan, bipartisan. impaction on both parties itch just decided to check it out on election day. jared and eye ran -- ivanka for the same reason itch made no -- it was an interesting experience and just this lull in the day and i took that time because usually when people are voting, it's not much news, so i took a couple of hours and i talk about it's little built in the book but the tradition is to

he never felt judaism as a religion.dy has always been much more interested in the big questions than the day-to-day. he's still asking about the nature of existence and is there a god. it's a theme he works again and again in his movies. >> mom, come out. >> of course there's a god, you idiot. you don't believe in god. >> but if there's a god, then why is there so much evil in the world? just on a simplistic level, why were there nazis? >> tell him, max. >> how the hell do i know why there were nazis. i don't know how the can opener works. >> jewish history filled with persecutions and oppressions inclines jews to be pessimists. judaism, on the other hand, is optimism. hence we end up as optimists with worried looks on our faces. >> one is i'm making progress towards it but let's not exaggerate success of "annie hall." i'm going to make decisions to make acceptance by the masses. i'm going to make all those decisions counterproductive to my best interest. directv has been rated number one in customer satisfaction over c

initial wish only to evangelize his christian beliefs and to be more inclusive of catholicism and judaism for example there are still omissions though here in the impact of the bible in the world gallery their addresses adorned with crosses but there's no mention of the bible's relationship with other religions like islam for example eventually we were able to find mention of the biblical connection between the two faiths and this is if this is it it's the smallest of. biblical scholars say this fits the museum's main narrative the bible is almost identical in their mind essentially american protestantism so as they look at the bible they look at it as judaism first then catholicism and now. sort of no recognition that there were other things. there's anything. it's not as if the museum is just a few blocks away on washington d.c.'s national mall don't also have singular narratives the smithsonian's museums here deliver a message of american exceptionalism and manifest destiny even the recently opened national museum of african-american history designed to fill in the some of the more gla

ivf is viewewed criticallyly wn judaism, but it's not banned, as long as the egg and the sperm come fromhe parents. the catholic church, however, is opposed d to it. protestants are also not uncritical, but leave the decision up to the parents' conscience. islam on the othther hand takea tolerant approach to in vitro fertilisation, if the couple are married. and that's even in arch-conservative iran. correspondent: every year, sakineh and akbar hosseinpour come to this mosque to mark the death of the second imam, hassan. people gather here to give thanks and to ask god to answer their prayers. sakineh has had the same wish for the past 20 years. >> if i am honest, i pray to god for a child. correspondent: it's clear that akbar is uncomfortable talking ababout the subject in public. he worries that if he and his wife remain childless, they will be scorned by their community. >> i don't like to talk about it. i want it to stay between god and myself, until a miracle happens. yes, i went to the doctor, i won't say that i didn't. i just really wish we could have a child. correspondent: the c

initial wish only to evangelize his christian beliefs and to be more inclusive of catholicism and judaism for example there are still omissions though here in the impact of the bible in the world gallery their addresses adorned with crosses but there's no mention of the bible's relationship with other religions like islam for example eventually we were able to find mention of the biblical connection between the two faiths and this is this is it it's the smallest of two because scholars say this fits the museum's may narrative the bible is almost identical in their mind essentially american protestantism so as they look at the history of the bible they look at it as judaism first then catholicism and now with sort of no recognition that there were other things the bible was doing with that there is anything after product it's not as if the museum is just a few blocks away on washington d.c.'s national mall also. to have singular narratives the smithsonian's museums here deliver a message of american exceptionalism and manifest destiny even the recently opened mash museum of african-america

general community for example the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel and judaism in the public schools not just informally so you're talking about a very mixed actuation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of polish nationalism appears to be going together with an increase or a rebirth of anti-semitic feelings and and actions. now the will is very biggest trip take care and see bitcoin has hit me record high speaking it well i have a nine thousand dollars. it is mind by computers which self sophisticated algorithm algorithms to generate the digital killing but the processes can change more electricity in a year it's an island which you belief in october alone the power they use to mine be calling went up by thirty percent and if these rights to continue it's predicted they could be a global twenty twenty what are c twenty twenty but artie's financial show host max kaiser says it won't slow down any time seeing as investors tend to cash digital. we're seeing the latter c.f. currencies are in hyper inflationary collapse against bitcoin i think we'll see

is critically within judaism but it's not banned as long as the egg and the sperm come from the parents the catholic church however is opposed to it protestants are also not uncritical but leave the disc. up to the parents conscience. is normal in the other hands takes a tolerance approach to in vitro fertilization if the couple are married and that's even an arch conservative in rom. every year and akbar hussein a poor come to this mosque to mark the death of the second imaam haasan. people gather here to give thanks and to ask god to answer their prayers. suck in a has had the same wish for the past twenty years. if i'm honest i pray to god for a child. it's clear that akbar is uncomfortable talking about the subject in public . he worries that if he and his wife remain childless they'll be scorned by their community. because. i don't like to talk about it or. for my home i want it to stay between godly self until a miracle happens. well some more mature more disabled one. or two or more yes i went to the doctor i was say that i didn't. know i just really wish we could have a child. w

the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just not just informally so you're talking about a very mix that you ation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of polish nationalism appears to be going together with. an increase over. which was a rebirth of of anti-semitic feelings and. actions. and the way is among the first countries to receive that shipment of new american f. thirty five fighter jets and they may have got more than they bargained for the norwegian military claims that the planes send sensitive data back to the manufacturer in the u.s. lockheed martin after every flight to see the electra from australia's royal melbourne institute for technology says that could be enough to pull off other countries from buying the jet. reality of it is is that if you're dealing with a company like lockheed martin if you're dealing with manufacturers if you're dealing with the trump presidency there are always going to of course be looking out for their interests and in this particular case if you are in the busines

they share a gospel, islam, judaism and christianity.it hasn't occurred to me because it is something that i wouldn't do. christianity is my... i write these books to ask myself these questions. christianity is my experience, it is the world that affects me most because these are my core values so i really write these books for myself, in many ways, to explore these ideas. that is why i continually choose christianity. you mentioned robert langdon and how he is cutting loose, to some extent. would it be right to say that professor robert langdon with his learning and his love of travel and his brilliant code breaking and everything else, is the guy you would love to be? that's the best way to say it. here's more daring, he is a lot more intelligent. somebody said to me, how can he be more intelligent because everything he says you have to think about. i pointed out that when robert langdon sees a painting, he says it takes in three days. people around the world want to know. langdon is still out there cracking codes and travelling the wo

general community for example the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just informally so you're talking about a very mix of two asian but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of polish nationalism appears to be going together with an increase over a rebirth of anti-semitic feelings and and actions. the world's very first big ascript a currency bitcoin a new record highs peaking at almost ten thousand dollars it's mine by computers which soul of sophisticated algorithms to generate the digital coin but the process consumes more electricity in a year than an average size european country does in october alone the power used to mine bitcoin went up by thirty percent if those rates continue it's predicted there could be a global power cut by twenty twenty r.t.s. financial show host max kaiser say's the thirst for crypto won't slow down any time soon as investors turn their hard digital. we're seeing the latter currencies are in a hyper inflationary collapse against bitcoin i think we'll see a major price correction somewhere

community for example the the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just not just informally so you're talking about a very mix that you ation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of polish nationalism appears to be going together with. an increase or. reduce a rebirth of of anti-semitic feelings and. actions. the world's very first and biggest cryptocurrency bitcoin has had a record high value peaking at nine thousand three hundred u.s. dollars the digital currency is mined by computers which generate sophisticated algorithms to make a purchase and the amount of energy being used in the online currencies production could cause a global power cup by twenty twenty and this october alone the electricity used to mine bitcoin went up by thirty percent financial show house max keiser says it won't slow down anytime soon either as investors tend to hog cash digital. we're seeing the latter theater and seas are in a hyper inflationary collapse against bitcoin i think we'll see a major price correction somewhere at the twe

in the next thirty minutes we have the story of my judaism disappearing daughter as italian investigators a work to identify twenty six women dumped in the mediterranean we traveled to nigeria to meet anxious families who believed their children were victims of people traffickers. hello and welcome i'm with that she. zimbabwe is in the grip of political turmoil after the army took to the capital streets seize control of parliament and state television president robert mugabe has told a neighboring south africa that he is under house arrest but unharmed the army says this is not a takeover but a corrective measure the military intervention comes amid a power struggle to succeed ninety three year old mugabe the soldiers took over a national television station to say it wasn't a coup to both our people and the world beyond our borders we wish to make it abundantly clear that this is not a military or of. what this man would fence forces is doing is to pacify a degenerate in political social and economic situation in our country which if not addressed made use it in your own it com. but with

this book does address, i mean, certainly islam, judaism and christianity share a gospel.lked about in the novel and there are characters from all of those faiths. i just wonder if lent the same critical eye that you've lent to christianity, to islam, for example, whether you are fearful of what's happened to other writers like salman rushdie, you wouldn't... it hasn't occurred to me because it is something that i wouldn't do. christianity is my... i write these books to ask myself these questions. christianity is my experience, it is the world that affects me most because it's how i grew up, these are my core values so i really write these books for myself, in many ways, to explore these ideas. that is why i continually choose christianity. you mentioned robert langdon and how he is cutting loose, to some extent. would it be right to say that professor robert langdon with his learning and his love of travel and his brilliant code breaking and everything else, is the guy you would love to be? that's the best way to say it. here's more daring, he is a lot more intelligent.

foreign-policy or the president but it is by a deep dark hatred of the west and christianity and judaism the way to defeat to that is the ideals behind that for the egyptians who helped form the muslim brotherhood or a pakistan a thinker to steady their ridings ahead. >> so the point he is making a nikko's back a long way not just a few years or decades but 100 years and want to get the panel's reaction. i am afraid this is the of latest of a tragedy is that we of defeating the ideology? par retaking it seriously enough?. >> i think our muslim brothers and sisters live in communities that believe in theirr faith it isn't ideology to be manipulated baby to come to the table to work with us as a coalition and to educate those around the world specifically because 23,000 square miles that it occupies now it is 9,000. if we can work together legitimate lead to higher pay conversation there is a difference than maybe we can get something done more than what we have seen in the middle east right now. >> i agree but what does that look like? we say that but it feels like we really areit not mak

community for example the the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just not just informally so you're talking about a very mixed actuation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of published nationalism appears to be going together with . an increase over. which was a rebirth of anti-semitic feelings and and actions. i facebook are up twitter dot com and of course bulletins every moscow across the day many many ways and to keep up to date with the latest from us at all to international now for me kevin i would and the rest of the team thanks for watching this. here's what people have been saying about rejected in the us exactly it's full on awesome the only show i go out of my way to find you know what it is that really packs a punch at least yampa is the john oliver of harvey americans do the same we are apparently better than the things that i see people you've never heard of love redacted tonight was the president of the world bank paid to write me seriously send us an email welcome to the wonderful world of bloo

the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just not just informally so you're talking about a very mixed actuation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of polish nationalism appears to be going together with. an increase over. which was a rebirth of of anti-semitic feelings and and actions. you want you know it's international facebook are up to call mine of course bulletins across the day from moscow all life you many ways to keep in contact with what's going on for us but now my name is kevin i mean the rest of the team thanks for watching. this footage is unique because there's a tribal lens on normally off limits to the public. eric's allowed in because he's the so is personal doctor. people here know him simply as dr eric he's rich famous some always on the move sailing yacht some flying aircraft except just some concept. slim. he's considered one of the best neurosurgeons in brazil. and that's happening amazon. allergists soul sister going to brazil and nothing's going to go to the population because it's

they don't feel free to join student government and talk about their judaism and their involvement in their jewish community. and there are examples time and time again. one last thing about this. i understand that if you look only in terms of numbers across all campuses, that while some of the academics here say it's not a problem, i don't see it in my classroom, i don't see i h it on my campus, i don't hear about it and 118 antisemitic acts relative to the number of students on college campuses may not seem that great, why shouldn't we be concerned about every one of those individuals and their ability to sustain and fight back and have a department of education that's willing to investigate those kinds of attacks? this one is really hard sometimes for me to understand. we know what's happening on college campuses. yes, i'm concerned about professors being able to teach. i am. but i also know that college students, like my own and their friends, who are on campuses, who actually see what's happening, who will avoid parts of campus, i have heard from their friends, will avoid parts o

have political will have been i'm and political zionism not religious have because i'm a religious judaism but political zionism and political have as i'm have been the two most radicalizing destructive and destructive forces in our region for the last seventy eighty years along with foreign militarism and out of a talker so you put those four things together and this is what we get the most violent unstable region in the world which is getting worse and worse and worse showing lost what you well i think that. what congressman some on which he seems to me frankly has one of the biggest problem he wants to march for in my his father he thinks that they have more of that is like his palace and they're here and daddy is going to do this and that is going to give him he has gone out realize that the moral is something completely different in ways that he cannot even imagine at the moment. we have to leave it there we're out of time for shereen rami thank you so much for joining me on the show that's our show up front about next week. on counting the cost of venezuela in defocus as the oil rich

this is like the basement of anything that judaism would stand for.he army of tomorrow is the group of children today. what is there for you when you become 18? 36% of the boys have to go. 45% of them witnessed the beating and the killing of their fathers. they immediately switch from the helpless father, who could not protect them, to somebody who is more thoughtful. jews who are armed with machine guns and military jeeps victimize these children, and when we allow the children to play this game as part of the therapy, many of thee children prefer to play the role of the jew in the game becacause that power. ♪ >> under the deep strains of the current intifada, very few israelis went on examining how to make core examples tense happen. she is -- core existence. >> i asked to speak with prime minister netanyahu. i wrote to him five times. and then he doesn't want to speak with me. in the letters i wrote i want you to look me in the eye and to tell me that my son died for a reason. i want you to look at me. he never had the courage to do it. i feel a re

general community for example the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just informally so you're talking about a very mixed actuation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of published nationalism appears to be going together with an increase over a rebirth of anti-semitic feelings and and actions. the northern french port city of cali witness to violent incidents involving people smugglers and migrants on saturday in one a car refused to halt on a police stop living to one officer being injured in another confrontation five migrants were wounded in a brawl with smugglers we asked the city's police for comment. solace one vehicle approaching the traffic by c.r.s. police went through the roadblock he then knock down a police officer who was trying to stop him my colleague shot. mine people were on the vehicle including one smuggler in another incident and also creation took place between migrants and smugglers smugglers opened fire on migrants injuring five people one seriously. ill during the migrant crisis cowley expe

general community for example the fact of the matter is that rabbis are now teaching about israel in judaism in the public schools not just informally so you're talking about a very mixed actuation but this is definitely a throwback and the rise of polish nationalism appears to be going together with an increase over rebirth of anti-semitic feelings and. actions. the church of sweden has been forced to respond to claims that it's ruled gold must only be referred to in gender neutral terms now that story was spread by a number of international news outlets of course the traditional expressions of christian faith remain in the new worship book however some gender neutral ways of addressing god have been added in some prayers in swedish there is nowadays an official agenda neutral pronoun. this one it is not used at all in the worship book well the church is in fact introducing just a few updates at the beginning of services it will be deemed acceptable to use three different ways of describing god one of those will be gender neutral and the holy spirit will also be referred to in the female gr

there was no practice of judaism in his home. -- and thisis wife led to the scandal that led to his resignation -- he and his his wife had950's, extremely lavish lifestyle. s.ey had twin rolls-royce 's wife had one closet of 150 shoes. offered by lbj to be attorney general. his wife said not on my life. he would have had to take such a big salary cut. he took a 90% salary cut to be on the court. his wife was livid. -- he hadeard this thaten two letters to lbj he would not accept an appointed to the court. to the ovalted him office to have a discussion. it was about the vietnam policy that he was an advisor on. he said join me, i'm going to the rose garden. there is an announcement i have to make. on the way over, i'm announced wife, i'mand his going to appointed to the court. there was nothing they could do. his wife was livid and furious. she calls the white house. one of the white house aides said they had never heard anyone talk to lyndon johnson like that. she berated him for half an hour. how dear you? i thought -- how dear you? you?w dare i thought we were friends. he was nominated to the

inherent within islam its texts or its ideology that lends itself to that violence more so than say judaism or it is a more hinduism is false simply by the fact that we have buddhist violence and christian violence and jewish violence let me let me let me jump in finally ok look i think the point is that some of some of what reza said is accurate i think there are thank you aren't solving. some small percentage the point is that there's a lot of religious violence and i don't think you know and i am not. i don't define myself as a theologian although i've read the all the scriptures of both books though i think the old testament is full of violence that just is just as. miserable as the qur'an is i think i said this program before they're all equally violent and miserable if you actually read the scriptures are not they're not guides for good living but the point the real concern i think is that for one reason or other and i think it's just historical the qur'an is taken by many. muslims to be literal to be sacred to be not touchable the bible isn't anymore my big problem with with islam ri

he had a little more interest, but there was no practice of judaism in his home.ut what he said here is very revealing. he and his wife -- and this led to the scandal that led to his resignation -- he and his wife in the 1950's, his wife had an especially extremely lavish lifestyle. they had twin olls-royces. his wife had in one closet alone 150 pairs of shoes. he had been offered by lbj to be attorney general. his wife said, not on my life. you can't. he would have had to take such a big salary cut. he took a 90% salary cut to be on the court. his wife was livid. in fact, when she heard this -- he had written two letters to lbj saying he would not accept an appointed to the court. johnson invited him to the oval office to have a discussion. it was about the vietnam policy that he was an advisor on. he said join me, i'm going to the rose garden. there is an announcement i have to make. on the way over, unbenknownst to fortas and his wife, he said i'm appointing you to the supreme court. at that point, there was nothing they could do. his wife, at the law firm -- t

under bernadotte supplant judaism's most holy place would come under the control of the arabs. jewish militants decided they must fight on in defense of jerusalem. the campaign against bernadotte was building and plans were soon being laid for killing account. in colombia transforming urban waste into building long years just for a same thing the west blasted the war and finished their house in. just ten years and in singapore fragile farms and living building anything you do on land on the ground it doesn't make sense to do that on a building you know can we make of not just decorative but can we might get biologically productive earthrise discovers cutting edge solution for sustainable city at this time when i was zero. zero. and. sixty seven words that spelled promise for one people but ended up a disaster for another. that led to the establishment of a jewish homeland at the expense of the palestinians one hundred years on al-jazeera world tells the story of the british declaration that changed the middle east for seeds of discord at this time. and i'm down in jordan in doh

. >> christianity, judaism, islam, bl of them, all of those religions are, have compassion as a core feature, right? that we should care for the poor, that we should look out for the sick, that we should be kind to the stranger, that we should, you know, as jesus said what you have done unto the least of these, you have done unto me? that is the best core of all our religious traditions. and the morality of this cause that i write about here is antithetical to all of that. and as you said, ayn rand was deeply hostile to religion, just contemptuous of it. many of these early libertarians were as well, but something happened when they started to get serious about trying to get political power. and for charles colm this happened -- koch this happened particularly in the 19 90s. before he said never compromise, we must be totallied radical, we must not, you know, give away anything to others. we must be very determined in our views. but when he got serious about getting to political power, he understood that libertarians are at most 3-4% of electorate in polling terms, and many of these

they see this as a clash of cultures between the east and west, between islam and christianity and judaisms feeds right into it. so it's going to probably encourage if not incite violence by these extremist groups. don't forget, some of those allies are major muslim countries that we need to rely on for the fight against isis in iraq and syria and in afghanistan. so this makes it hard for them, too. and i think it's extraordinary that the prime minister of great britain had to come out today and say it was wrong for the president of the united states to send a tweet. just think about that for a second. our closest ally has had to come out and say it's wrong for the president to be tweeting something like. it's obviously hitting them right at home. >> they're very upset about it in the uk. it is extraordinary that the spokesperson for the british prime minister theresa may has to basically criticize the president of the united states for doing this. >> while our spokesman defends it. >> not important if the videos are real, what's important is the message, that's what she said, sarah sander

they borrowed it from medieval judaism. how widespread was this view, you ask? it extended well beyond the ranks of orthodox christian. that is for certain. consider benjamin franklin. this is his proposal for the national seal of the united states. in case you have not noticed, that would be the israelites crossing the red sea. consider that runaway bestseller of the revolutionary era, "common sense," by thomas payne. thomas paine was certainly no christian, but here is what he argued for the republic. the prophet samuel disapproves of government by kings payne , argued. for near 3000 years, israel is the kind of republic issued by a judge and elders of the tribe. that is, until the jews under a national delusion, requested a king. even the most skeptical of the founders regarded religion and republican self-government as potentially complementary. like the puritans, the founders fell short of their own ideals. while the declaration loudly declared all men are created equal, the constitution tacitly downgraded african slaves to 3/5 of a person. as man was taken

they did not come up with this reading themselves, they borrowed it from medieval judaism. how widespread was this view, you ask? it extended well beyond the ranks of orthodox christians, that is for certain. benjamin franklin. this is his proposal for the national seal of the united states. in case you have not noticed, that would be the israelites crossing the red sea. or consider that runaway bestseller of the revolutionary era, "common sense" by thomas payne. he was no christian, but here is how he argued it. they disapproved of government by kings, for near 3000 years, israel had a kind of republic administered by a judge and the elders of the tribe, that is until the jews, under a national delusion, requested a king. so even the most skeptical of the founders regarded biblical religion and republican self-government as potentially complement to rate. -- complementary. but the founders fell far short of their own ideals, like the puritans. while the declaration loudly declare that all men were created equal, the const fusion downgraded -- constitution downgraded africa

presentation of the bible is possible, and the one here presents a pre-ordained, positive march from judaismatholicism to an ascendant protestantism. do you have to be a scholar to see it? >> i don't know if you have to be a scholar, but you definitely need to be made aware of how museums function, and to made aware that the bible can't speak for itself, that it's always being interpreted i don't think anyone would deny a faith community the opportunity to present their faith claims about the bible. but biblical scholars want them to be candid about the faith perspective that's informing the organization of the material. >> brown: in addition to the museum's mission, its holdings have also been subject to widespread scrutiny. in a new book called "this dangerous book," steve green describes how he set about in 2009 to acquire biblical artifacts, a collection that grew to more than 40,000. this past summer, hobby lobby paid a $3 million fine and forfeited thousands of artifacts after the justice department said items had been intentionally mislabeled and smuggled out of iraq. deborah lehr hea

i would rather teach about 18th-century judaism. and that -- >> thank you all. i'm going to examine this conversation we have had this morning terry carefully. >> thank you. your recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman . rabbi cooper, in your experience, have you i guess have you had, i am assuming you have experienced discussing with college administrators or responded to these anti-semitic incidents? what have you learned? let's we have had a lot of interaction with primarily california-based uc and cal state administrators. people including some of the campus police. there has been a lot of exchange, there have been seminars and discussions. what has been lacking, what we hear back from people who let's say have been burned once or twice incidents that they do not anticipate. they lack context. they are looking for a basic definition to give them a context on campus to guide them. my written and verbal testimony, i spoke at some length about the president when he was the head of the uc system, spent a lot of time on this program not because it was theoretical