let's bring into the conversation katie mcfarland and also still with us judith miller.not as excited and optimistic as judith is. i'm concerned what you will see is a power vacuum and chaos. what happens next? i think of a revolution, whether egypt, iran or poland is a three act play. act one, everybody is in agreement, let's get rid of the dictator. then act two off to the guys who got rid of the dictator to try to run things. that's when they start falling out. now pow are they going to govern. they are not good at governing. can they get it together? maybe, maybe not. act three, if they don't get it together often what takes its place is [ inaudible ] i'm not pessimistic but not as optimistic as other people. >> i think there will be chaos, k. i agree. it is hard to imagine at this point the tnc won't be able to do what it needs to do to establish order until some other forum of people emerge. there was tremendous tumult already within the tnc. only about a week ago the commander of the rebel forces was shot and killed. clearly, there is a lot of tension. but this is

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kt mcfarland and judith miller who has interviewed gadhafi.been a thorn in the side and one of the most hated enemies of the united states for many, many years. i covered the bombing of pan am flight 103 over scotland. i to the hague and covered the trials to get libyans involved. and the heartbreak that i heard at the time from many of the families of the victims, american victims and the british victims, was so heartwrenching. to sort of pause and catch our breathes here and look back at these momentous events today, assuming it is true that this is the fall of gadhafi, what are your thoughts? >> i guess i've been interviewing him for so long. part of me says it is not possible to imagine libya without him. because with all of his eccentric, bizarreness with the tents, taking the mobile tent wherever he went, there was a dreamy aspect to the guy, when he went committing terrorism. that was the amazing thing about muammar gadhafi. the ability to swerve between a pan am 103, to do that and kill over200 people, most americans, in cold blood. an

judith miller writes a column saying it was a silly speech. we needed a leader and we got a professor. a stoke broker says response of an 11-year-old everybody's fault but theirs. another said it is a leadership crisis the fact the market fell another 200 points after he spoke is no coincidence. we have a chart you can see when he started to speak and what happened to the dow in the moments after he began to speak. right an wearing it fell an extra 41. then it seemed -- we might have charts showing this with the stocks. being see it fell. then you had some other financial news. then you see the president -- hard for me to see this. look at how much farther it goes down when we are looking for the president to soothe us. they tell me some of these people, it is not just what he said in the speech, but what he didn't say. no new initiative. no new thing saying i'm going to name the six democrats to that joint committee. no kind of new taking command and leadership. no mea culpa. all morning the administration had been blaming s&p for making a wr

she is a reporter, judith miller is here.f the opinion financial group, matt mccall is back. good to see you. i can't get off this. sometimes things get in my mind and bother me. in light of the civility speeches that the president has given us. and in light of what he said in the 2008 campaign, i think this is worth playing again. watch this one more time, president obama in 2008. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years, is to take out a credit card from the bank of china, in the name of our children, driving up our national debt, from five trillion dollars the first 42 presidents, number 43 added four trillion by his lonesome. we now have over nine trillion dollars of debt. that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it is unpatriotic. >> sean: reaction? >> 2008, i wish we could have him give the same speech now the a.m. he spent on the last few -- the amount of money he spent in the last few years. there's no end in sight. he kee

. >> harris: and bring in judith miller, a pulitzer prize winner and fox contributor and knows that part of the world. >> nice to see you. >> harris: you were taking notes as jennifer and i were talking and some of the things i saw you kind of write down, rebels in control of the road into tunisia out of this country. >> right. >> harris: if he didn't get out earlier, what. >> i think he might have gotten out earlier, which would explain why we've had these weird broadcasts without a picture just audio, that's one possible explanation, and i think the bbc, which is reporting that he is in fact in algeria have good contacts and sometimes break news even before al-jazeera, it's a pretty good bet that he may have left. i think that's why the president is not getting out in front of this. >> harris: and why that particular country, do you think? >> it happens to be a country although it has signed onto the international criminal court, which has indicted gaddafi, has not ratified its membership in that organization. therefore, they don't technically have to turn over gaddafi. look, it's in e

army coal knoll david hunt, fox news contributor judith miller is adjupght professor, and michael medvedhave been hungry to know more about what caused this tragedy, what led to it, how did it happen and it seems like a lot of information has been released, but again, much of this was a secret operation, at least when it was underway. are the media telling too much? >> in this operation, no. it's a tragedy and it's also involving six who would have died to bill billion. it's the intelligence community that suffers more from these open discussions. we haven't had in the last ten years a lot of examples of military operations being compromised by too much information. i'm glad there's a curiosity, soldiers have been out there dying, it's not been a front page story for a couple of years but for this particular one, the tragedy, size of it, collection to bin laden, the fact that it almost wiped out an entire team of seal team six, at that intense level, it's natural -- i didn't see anything reporting that was giving up classified information. op jon but michael, as i understand it, you make

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in fact, fox news contributor judith miller calls it down right silly.r and joins us live on the curvy couch. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> what was the point of that speech? >> you know, it was supposed to be kind of an uplifting speech. >> was it? >> not for the markets. i mean, the markets plunged immediately after that speech so there's your answer. >> uh-huh. >> say it was a bad week overall for the president, maybe his worst week in office starting with the fact that he turned 50. >> yes, that's traumatic for men and women alike. i only know about half. but, you know, there's that and then there was the terrible, terrible chopper crash in afghanistan, the single largest loss of life of soldiers in the afghan war. and then we had this terrible financial crisis. it's just kind of, you know, the downgrading of the country's credit worthiness for the first time a sitting president. so he was not having a good week. but then he decided to come out. >> well, because that's his m.o. because in the absence of a plan, he will give a speech. and i