you know this is a perfect storm against julian assange isn't it. you know it is if if truth if truth was was the gold standard by which professional journalism was measured then wiki leaks and julie songe would be heralded heralded right now instead of hounded yeah joyce and could walk right out the door within weeks and he would have had everybody rallying on his side but there's been a major political alignment a realignment as it were and i think this began under the obama administration is has to do with a lot of things including the the division or split of this of the antiwar left or the remnants of it opposed to bush but also the fact that russia that's the reason d'etre of washington right now in terms of geopolitics and so that that split is pronounced but the other thing is. that with the guardian two to knowingly they had a heads up the day before when the when the story was published online you need to think that they were they still ran with it on the morning print edition the following morning i went to the newsstand and there was thi

the fate of julian assange is unclear washington is determined that he be sent to the u.s. . to face criminal charges most likely under the one nine hundred seventy espionage act the british government is more than happy to make this happen even the ecuadorians are in on the out but we are watching it unfold in front of our eyes is the criminalization of journalism. across talking julian assange which i'm joined by my guest joe lauria in washington he's editor in chief of consortium news dot com and author of how i lost my hillary clinton with a forward by julian assange also in washington we have gareth porter he's an independent investigative journalist and historian as well as author of manufactured crisis the untold story of the around nucular scare and in plymouth we cross to patrick and he is a journalist writer and founder of the news website twenty first century wired dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it and i to open up by saying thanking all three of you to come here to speak out

because julian assange wants diplomatic immunity. then he could evade the authorities pursuing him. get out of london, maybe he could keep on leaking. and to be clear, assange can advocate for his own freedom argue he's wrongly accused or a publisher and allowed to freedom of speech rights. but one convict of the mueller probe and one target of the mueller probe with links to russia and another who bragged about his back channel to assange before taking it all back. i'm glad to be joined by historian, and david jones. david, what is the significance of this convoluted trail for assange. >> you did a good job trying to cut through the e vulss here. to me one of the most remarkable things is when paul manafort was disgraced and sort of in the cross hairs of federal prosecutors, he was able to convince the chinese he was a man of influence who could broker a deal with ecuador. when he gets into a deal with him, everything is on the table. you have a concern about julian assange, you want him out of the embassy in london because he's been there too long, bad roommate, i don't know why.

julian assange just lawyer has rejected a deal struck by the u.k. and ecuador which ecuador's president claims will enable the weeklies co-founder to leave his country's embassy in london and says that britain has given assurances it will not extradite assange to any country where he might face the death penalty and more details now with polly boyo. the ecuadorian president has done a radio interview in which he's been very frank about julian assange and he said that the british government has guaranteed in writing that if you're in the sun just to leave the ecuadorian embassy in london well then the u.k. won't extradite him to a third country where he could face the death penalty so as a headline this sounds like surely good news for julian assange but it's important to remember that the ecuadorian president isn't exactly julian assange is biggest fan lenin miranda no has referred to a sunday as a hacker in the past in the interview he said that he's fed up with the wiki leaks editor staying in his country's tiny london embassy i do not like the pr

julian assange lawyer has rejected a u.k. ecuador deal under which the whistleblower can leave the ecuadorian embassy in london without being extradited to a country where he might face the death penalty. also the. after washington asks pakistan for help in getting the taliban to engage in peace talks in afghanistan. the u.s. took quick the shattered country saying its policy there has been a failure. the problem of the medical is that the policy is being exposed still being wrong their policy has faded the military approach has absolutely fear. and to resume a battle zone with a draft deal the head of a key vote next week we asked people in london what they think about the current situation is not fashionable the last time this discussion about we'll be trying to go over the mess. that's is all stuff. you know. we were not told anything like what the prime minister says he said. right tomorrow but i don't believe. a very warm welcome to you from all of us here at the international in moscow. students across france are protes

hello and welcome to cross talk were all things considered i'm peter lavelle the fate of julian assange is unclear washington is determined that he be sent to the u.s. to face criminal charges most likely under the one nine hundred seventeen espionage act the british government is more than happy to make this happen even the ecuadorians are in the in the apt but we are watching it unfold in front of our eyes is the criminalization of journalism. across talking julian assange which i'm joined by my guest joe lauria in washington he's editor in chief of consortium news dot com and author of how i lost by hillary clinton with a forward by julian assange also in washington we have gareth porter he's an independent investigative journalist and historian as well as author of manufactured crisis the untold story of the around nucular scare and in plymouth we cross to patrick and he is a journalist writer and founder of the news website twenty first century wired dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it and i to

but it's important to remember that the ecuadorian president isn't exactly julian assange is biggest fan lenin moran no has referred to a songe as a hacker in the past in the interview he said that he's fed up with the wiki leaks editor staying in his country's tiny london embassy i do not like the presence of mr sunshine in the dorrian embassy we have been respectful of his human rights with that in mind we think that six years is too long for someone to remain it's almost incarcerated and embassy or how good the treatment is that they're receiving hosting him costs one million dollars a year the big concern that a songes lawyers have had throughout the six years he spent in the ecuadorian embassy is this prospect of a criminal case against julian assange over in the us in fact last month it was revealed accidentally that the u.s. justice department had filed secret criminal charges against the wiki leaks that it's at and prosecutors have refused to reveal what specifically those criminal charges are so however much the ecuadorian president might want julian assange to walk out now

president says britain has provided sufficient guarantees for julian assange to safely leave that embassy in london. china vance's fury after one of the bosses of the country's telecoms giant wild way was arrested in canada she faces extradition to the u.s. for allegedly violating sanctions on iran the move threatens the newly agreed truce in the ongoing u.s. china trade also. our mission is to reassert our sovereignty reform the liberal leader natural order. washington outlined his new vision of for the world the relevance of key international organizations and also threatens to scrap a major nuclear treaty with russia. it's eleven o'clock here in moscow. r.t. international live from our studio with me in india today welcome to the program. just hours after the french government announced a total climb down over the fuel tax increase after weeks of protests that have been fresh demonstrations in paris this time as students took to the streets angered at an increase in chill wish and fees with more details his charlotte do pinsky well so you do serve come out to a protest in the center of

that he, yesterday at least, had a tweet over the weekend i should say where he talked about julian assange. take a listen. >> i had no contact with assange. assange himself has said roger stone is a brilliant spin master. we've had no communication with him whatsoever. >> so that was roger stone talking about julian assange, the president tweeting about roger stone. paul manafort's attorney saying that paul manafort had a meeting with ecuadorian president to discuss a possible deal regarding julian assange. why has julian assange become a central focal point of this investigation? >> because julian assange is the connection to wikileaks. wikileaks may be the connection to russia, and that of course mueller's team has already concluded that russians were involved and committed crimes involving the united states election. that is the nexus. roger stone may be telling the truth that he has had no contact, personal contact with julian assange. paul manafort may be telling the truth that he had no personal contact or never met julian assange but all the conspirators need not have personally met

just human rights and actually in respect of his human rights julian assange has done his time been in that embassy for over six years now so the situation that we're in right now is that we've got the leader of ecuador keen to kick out a songe from his embassy here in london saying that the ecuadorian government's been told by the british government. will be safe for him to leave that he won't be extradited to anywhere where he might face the death penalty the big question now is what songes legal team are going to have to say about all of this because the big concern songes lawyers have and it's a concern they've had throughout the past six years that has been holed up in the ecuadorian embassy is the prospect of a songe facing charges in the us in fact last month it was revealed that the u.s. justice department had filed secret charges against julian assange but prosecutors have refused to reveal what those secret charges are so however much the ecuadorian president won't. a songe to walk out it's really not as simple as that on the one hand yes whatever the case was against a so

potentially face the death penalty so as a headline this all sounds like jolly good news for julian assange but it's important to remember that the ecuadorian president isn't exactly julian a songes biggest fan lenin miranda has referred to the wiki leaks editor as a hacker in the past he said in the interview today that he's fed up with him occupying his tiny embassy here in london but he did concede that you have to respect julian assange just human rights and that he has done his fresh air of time he has after all spent more than six years holed up in ecuador's embassy here in london it will be interesting to hear what a songes legal team have to say about all this now because the big concern especially for a songes lawyer is and it's a concern that they've had for the past six years that he spent in the embassy is the prospect of facing charges over in the u.s. criminal charges in fact last month it was revealed that the u.s. justice department had filed secret criminal charges against julian assange but prosecutors have refused to reveal what specifically those charges are so however m

where you leaks of founder julian assange has received some welcome visitors as he remains holed up at the ecuadorian embassy in london we'll tell you more about it coming up stay with us. what is the pin that's going to pop the global bubble back in two thousand and eight it was a two thousand a subprime crisis. today i think we can safely say that the bubble popped but the collapse of deutsche bank. much bigger economic power much or wall inter. i think. you have to live with that. and there's lots of advantages that the europeans as well as america. international and for the first time in a half a year julian assange has had visitors to the ecuadorian embassy in london to german m.p.'s met with a whistleblower to express their solidarity and hopes that they can find a legal solution to the wiki leaks founder situation he was honest he has truckin. m.p.'s from the german bund to stop and it's committee on foreign affairs who authored a letter in support of we q leaks founder julian assange signed by dozens of m.p.'s have been visiting him here at the ecuadorian embassy in the british

what can be accepted said julian assange is welcome visitors to the ecuadorian embassy in london forthe first time inhofe a year to german and pays met with the whistleblower to express their solidarity and hopes of finding a legal solution to the situation and a sad check and picks up the story. m.p.'s from the german bund to stop and its committee on foreign affairs who authored a letter in support of the q leaks founder julian assange signed by dozens of m.p. . he's been visiting him here at the ecuadorian embassy in the british capital they are demanding that the u.k. provide assurances that the songs would be able to leave this embassy without being extradited to the u.s. we see the next step in this ever lasting case is the responsibility the united kingdom united kingdom has to take the measures now. to thank you solution which is in the frame of international law and not in the frame off the u.s. at new station who is against international law and against actually the u.s. will i mean against the first amendment they are taking measures like the protection of journalists and

and julian assange has rejected a deal struck by the u.k. and ecuador which ecuador's president claims will enable the wiki leaks co-founder to leave his country's embassy in london let in more or no says that britain has given assurances it will not extradite a songe to any country where he might face the death penalty with more details here's polly burka. lenin miranda did a radio interview where he said that the british government has provided a guarantee in writing that julian assange should be safe to leave the ecuadorian embassy here in london and that he wouldn't be in danger of being extradited by the british authorities to any third country where he could potentially face the death penalty as a headline this all sounds like jolly good news for julian assange but it's important to remember that the ecuadorian president isn't exactly judean a songes biggest fan lenin miranda has referred to the wiki leaks editor as a haka he said in that interview today that he's fed up with the the wiki said it's occupying his tiny ecuadorian embassy

the ecuadorian president has done a radio interview in which he's been very frank about julian assange and he said that the british government has guaranteed in writing that if you're in the sun just to leave the ecuadorian embassy in london well then the u.k. won't extradite him to a third country where he could face the death penalty so as a headline this sounds like surely good news for julian assange but it's important to remember that the ecuadorian president isn't exactly julia songes biggest fan lenin moran no has referred to as a hacker in the past in the interview he said that he's fed up with the wiki leaks editor staying in his country's tiny london embassy i do not like the presence of mr sunshine in the dorian embassy we have been respectful of his human rights with that in mind we think that six years is too long for someone to remain it's almost incarcerated and embassy or how good the treatment is that they're receiving hosting him costs one million dollars a year the big concern that a songes lawyers have had throughout the six years he spent in the ecuadorian embassy

affairs who authored a letter in support of we queue leaks founder julian assange signed by dozens of m.p.'s have been visiting him here at the ecuadorian embassy in the british capital they are demanding that the u.k. provide assurances that the song would be able to leave this embassy without being extradited to the u.s. we see the next step in this ever lasting case is the responsibility the united kingdom united kingdom has to take the measures now. to thank you solution which is in the frame of international law and not in the frame off the u.s. at a new station boys against international law and against actually the u.s. will i mean against the first amendment they are taking measures like the protection of journalists and freedom of speech and the freedom of press so we have to actually protect them from themselves not to a violate their first amendment julian assange just father also visited him here on thursday saying he did not find his son in the best of conditions. declining as you would expect of a fusion. straight. pool patient. a strict business ties. to a communication

not to violate the first amendment julian assange just father also visited him here on thursday saying he did not find his son in the best of conditions good . morning as you would expect a few. strangers. who. knows someone strict this is. to a communication snow job. for him. the m.p.'s visiting from berlin have demanded that the international community listen off to the united nations ruling that has now quite a long time ago found that julian assange just attention is arbitrary united kingdom government tried to appeal to the un decision and but they lost and still they are not exceptions and. accepting this un decision and this has to be stopped they have to i mean it's a member of the united nations it's a have a seat in the security council and in my point of view you can't united kingdom is dead jewel except and respect the international law and international rights of someone local who likes to be in a song ecuadorian officials have lately been increasingly indicating that the we can leaks founder has outstayed his welcome behind these walls while the sunshine spent the last s

howie: i bet we'll see this million dollar bet with julian assange. should the media have been more cautious with this. if it's true it ties the trump campaign to wikileaks. but you have all the people involved saying it's untrue. gillian: paul manafort is not the most of honest man in washington. if it is true, there should be video footage and evidence of travel. there should be evidence so if you are doubling down this hard there should be evidence. the "new york times" reported that they are trying to confirm the story and the guardian * softened the story. gillian: i'm not saying i believe paul manafort went into the embassy. i am saying if my choices are between the three of them i think the guardian has the most of credibility. howie: i can't figure out how he could get three times into the ecuadorian embassy without anybody knowing it. jesse: there should be records of this on ctv. they have been fighting terrorism effectively for years. "the guardian" is an incredibly reputable outlet. they softened it a bit but they say they do have sources.

you made an hilarious statement before. >> just that julian assange made a bad bet. >> on trump?ught he would not only get pardoned but become a ambassador. there's really no honor amongst thieves. he really thought he was doing this favor for the trump people and he would get something out of it. i spoke to randy credico, one of roger stone's associates who's part of this probe, who is a left wing voter and big supporter of assange and always justified assange's behavior by saying, look, hillary clinton said there could be a drone strike against assange. this was sort of self-defense. and it turns out that kind of betting your future on the honor of donald trump -- >> no win there. >>> we have breaking news in the russian investigation, roger stone is pleading the fifth, refusing to share documents and senate with the committee. that's according to the top democrat dianne feinstein. i will put you on the spot and apologize in advance and do it anyway, we had the president yesterday morning at 7:00 a.m. tweeting high praise for roger stone for saying on abc's sunday morning progr

someone who did both of us former collaborators no longer on the best of terms the guardian and julian assange are going out at once again bordering on propaganda the t.v. shows that are monetizing migrants and smugglers and what would jesus do if he was an evangelical american biblical talking points updated for two thousand and eighteen one soul for the whole world that is an amazing deal seven years into the war in syria with all the state and non-state actors who have become part of that story it's easy to forget how it all began with an uprising a people's rebellion against an authoritarian government a fight for democracy and a free media iran was one of the figureheads of that movement until he was shot dead last week alongside his camera man probably by fighters linked to al qaeda fighter has used various forms of media especially radio to push a revolutionary agenda from the town of cuff sunbelt in the rebel held province of it lip five years of. he started organizing protests there and came up with innovative ways to call out the hypocrisy of the west he risked on news coverage he di

question what is happening with the asylum given to julian assange by ecuador according to american mainstream media sweden dropped its criminal charges against its own there is this implied that sweden will not extradite assange to the united states if true will the u.k. extra to extradite him to the united states for an american criminal trial mark but what never actually charge is exactly the charge he was wanted for questioning on those kind of completely b.s. . sexual assault charges right but you know both of the women in involved with that. a lot of of smoke there but it was all quietly dropped when american feminist organizations said it was b.s. which so what but so i'm just still under. by the british regime in defiance of now multiple un committee statements that you know they have to release him in flagrant defiance of the vienna conventions with diplomacy and the asylum that's been granted the big problem has been that there's a change in government in ecuador and the new government is very keen on improving relations with the united states and they want to see a sausage

somebody who just learned about certain things after the fact, and really had nothing to do with julian assange admits to the e-mail after he lied about it before hand but had no choice to admit to that e-mail about ted mallic going to visit assange. he comes up with this story about having this epiphany on an airplane trip from the u.s. to italy where it came to him that assange was going to release e-mails about hillary clinton's campaign manager in october about podesta. and that tries to say he gave that information, may have given the information to roger stone, and that's why roger stone, before that tweeted that it's now podesta's turn in the barrel. >> to be fair, mia, on a long plane ride, you can get some good thinking done. >> yeah. unless you've made a career of disinformation, which is exactly who jerome corsi is. this is a person -- remember 2004 and the swift boat scandal. we have john kerry who was a decorated war hero, and we have a jerome corsi creating really a fictitious set of disinformation facts to undermine his campaign about him not being a hero. this is the same person

department of justice that it's prepared an indictment against the founder of wiki leaks julian assange and this past week the guardian also did a piece on ascension wiki leaks what did it report. on the face of it richard the guardian has an explosive story it says president donald trump's former campaign manager paul man of four secretly met with julian assange at least three times the last time coming just months before we kill extremist those hacked democratic party e-mails in two thousand and sixteen now you put these details together with previously leaked communications between a songe and the tom family and it reinforces the story of collaboration between the two and since cyber security firms have said the e-mails were hacked by russian intelligence groups this report also goes to the allegations of collusion and russian interference in the us elections but the article provides no evidence of what it calls the apparent meetings it cites anonymous sources only and the visitor records at the ecuadorian embassy in london where a sanchez lived for the past six years reportedly show

i have never spoken to julian assange. don't know him and i have no contact that i was an intermediary, there was no third party who said roger stone has got this. >> but you were making an important point tonight in this interview that julian assange, as an intermediary, the fact that there was information believed to be private that proved to be accurate, to testatest -- podesta's time in the barrel -- >> you'll have to ask roger stone. let's get this clear, july, i was on vacation with my wife in italy. i think flying over, i figured out that assange had podesta's e-mails. i told roger in this e-mail and subsequently i thought it was podes podesta's e-mails. this was my conclusion, my supposition. it did not come from assange, and it didn't connect back to assange. so there's no link from me to assange. the link is from me figure thing out and telling roger. now, if i was the source, it was because roger believed me, figuring it out, not because roger believed i had a source. >> so you gave that defense to mueller's pro

there are allegations or suspicions that julian assange coordinated with roger stone and other people who had connections to the trump campaign. this is all what robert mueller is vekting. its no the clear this meeting is relevant to that investigation. >> that was my next question, ken. what relationship if any this news has as it relates to the mueller investigation. it's your sense maybe not too much? >> no. only that it's kind of interesting that paul manafort would be discussing julian assange in any capacity in a time we knew paul manafort was desperate for money. it may add up to he needed to get paid. >> ken delany, thank you. i want to break this down with our legal experts and our panel here. m mimi roka, mat miller, a spokesperson at doj. alexei mccannon and lexie cook. let me start with you, matt. paul manafort, ecuador, julian assange, this new reporting. >> hard to make of this. >> go. >> right. i think this looks a lot more like paul manafort influence pedaling and trying to play up the connections to the trump administration to get a contract or to put together a deal

many times he bragged about his contacts with julian assange who of course founder of wikileaks whichw know was aided by russia in all of this. another final, i have kaeconfide that wikileaks and my hero julian assange will educate the american people soon. roger stone is at the heart of the collusion question. >> totally because we know he gotted t hacked e-mails from intelligence officials so the question is if roger stone knew what was going on with wikileaks, did he know where those e-mails were coming from? if he knew that, there's your coordination right there and if roger stone knew that, did donald trump know that? you'd have to believe so. >> and of course donald trump publicly saying hey, wikileaks, where are you? russias get these e-mails. but, larry, roger stone has been all over the map. he's changed his story so many times. here he is on the wikileaks issue. >> i actually is communicated with assange. i believe the next trench of his documents pertain to the clinton administration but there's no telling what the october surprise may be. >> what i said in my testimony was

meetings between the former chairman of from his presidential campaign and wiki leaks founder julian assange and that's really it's caused quite a stir in the u.s. media story is shaking washington that is a bombshell lana foreigners are held a secret meeting around the same time that manna for join the trunk campaign a direct connection between the campaign and wiki leaks they actually published e-mails that were hacked by the russians now stolen by russian spies but doubt soon began to emerge about the article's content and sources but not to warry politico has the answer even if the guardian story is false it's all russia's fault you know i'm being serious rather than being the bombshell smoking gun that directly connects a trump campaign to wiki leaks perhaps the report is something else entirely a distant from asian campaign is it possible someone planted the story as a means to discredit the john lists that article was written by next year you agents under a pen name to prove a point the former officer draws our attention to those who dare question this bombshell russians disinflation

that the conference was at the from the anglo one one element of this is that julian assange was fingered by the guardian newspaper and they crops up elements of this he was due diligence favored by the guardian newspaper as meeting told trump's campaign yes schieffer let was a fabrication a complete fabrication and which the guardian stands by in terms of its only evidence down by whatever it was a fabrication it didn't happen i've been in that embassy many times it was impossible for man a foreign russians to be on that evidence it's to. totally leaks has released something like eight hundred thousand documents about russia about the russian state the vladimir putin would love to be in about the kremlin some of these documents have been used in court cases but russia and outside of russia. it's an extraordinary. library of of documents reveal that he's russian front revealing much about this and that almost never mention the idea that julian assange was some kind of front for the russians again is absurd i can only say that over and over again it's absurd it's untrue. it it's foals why

intelligence community confirms russians did the hacking, russians are the origin, or julian assange, through wikileaks of both of the hacked speech content. that counterbalance narrative played some role in helping donald trump survive that weekend. we don't know how big the role is but we know it played some role. imagine that third piece in the narrative isn't there at all. so the hacked poe bdesta contens not dropped after that debate. you would have the russians hacked and you would have access hollywood, two anti-trump stories. instead, first drops and you get a counterbalance narrative. what use was made of the content. >> john, what's her real view, crack down on big money or kiss up to them? >> there's now a counterbalance narrative and the narrative is what's the real hillary clinton, what are we seeing in these speeches as opposed to the fake hillary clinton who is saying other things in public, what is the real donald trump, this is a public/private narrative about both. is this merely a locker room banter which is what trump and his associates alleged, or is this in fact

something might say i like julian assange. i like russians.which time they might be more prudent of the content. some people might ask, why are they doing this? what is of interest in this? should some of this be discounted on the scripts because there's nothing comparable been done with donald trump. this is a like press leaking with a pestle fight anything it can from anybody and try to get out. this is asymmetric come happening only one side and it is taught to go. it is being used in this case to blunt the effects of "access hollywood" tape. which it effectively did that by creating a counterbalance narrative. we know from the woodward book that inside the trump campaign there was active consideration of moving mike pence to the top and moving condeleezza rice into the vice presidential spot. it was that serious. what helps blunt the "access hollywood" tape? hacked content drop strategically and the press greets the counterbalance narrative that looks like this. >> i'm chris wallace. explosive leaks just before the second presidential deba

the president drums former campaign chairman met several times with wiki leaks founder julian assange have taken a new twist a former cia officer is questioning the story saying it might have been planted by russia more on that now with on tuesday your organs. it's another link in the chain of the trump russia collusion probe the guardian article exposing alleged multiple meetings between the former chairman of fronts presidential campaign and wiki leaks founder julian assange and that's really it's caused quite a stir in the us media story is shaking washington that is a bombshell of foreigners are held a secret meeting around the same time that man a four joined the tram campaign a direct connection between the campaign and wiki leaks they actually published e-mails that were hacked by the russians now stolen by russian spies but doubt soon began to emerge about the articles content and sources but not to warry politico has the answer even if the guardian story is false it's all russia's fault you know i'm being serious rather than being the bombshell smoking gun that directly conne

interview where he said that the british government has provided a guarantee in writing that julian assange should be safe to leave the ecuadorian embassy here in london and that he wouldn't be in danger of being extradited by the british authorities to any third country where he could potentially face the death penalty so as a headline this all sounds like jolly good news for julian assange but it's important to remember that the ecuadorian president isn't exactly judean a songes biggest fan lenin miranda has referred to the wiki leaks editor as a hacker he said in that interview that he's fed up with the the wiki said it's occupying his tiny ecuadorian embassy here in london i do not like the presence of mr sunshine in the dorian embassy we have been respectful of his human rights with that in mind we think that six years is too long for someone to remain it's almost incarcerated and embassy no matter how good the treatment is that they're receiving hosting him costs one million dollars a year the big concern especially for a songes lawyer is and it's a concern that they've had for the pa